Re: (idm) punk [cough cough]

From iso-8859-1
Sent Mon, Sep 13th 1999, 16:37

1st. To my eternal shame, I actually saw Yes just after they had
released 'Tales from Topographic Oceans', so I have first hand
experience of the horror of prog rock. If you weren't there you can
never know how bad it was. Endless really crap solos, suddenly changing
time signatures for no other reason than to show 'oh aren't we
supremely talented musicians', bloody concept albums (e.g. Camel -
Flight of the Snow Goose). I can't really believe you are trying to
defend Barclay James Harvest who should have been executed years ago
for crimes against music.

2nd. 5 good punk albums? ummm...The Pop Group, Public Image - Metal
Box, Joy Division, Associates, Raincoats, Slits, Television, Young
Marble Giants, Cabaret Voltaire, the Fall, Wire ....A sight more
interesting than Yes, Genesis and all that other hippie prog crap. 

3rd. Punk destroyed a lot of sacred cows. It enabled non-musicians to
create music, it allowed DIY electronic musicians to release singles
(Robert Rental, the Normal etc.), it re-assessed the importance of
Black Music such as Soul Funk and Reggae which was ignored by the
racist prog rock community and it laid the foundations for the music
this list discusses.

Mat.
--- Dave Segal <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> 
> >From: 
> >Date: Mon, Sep 13, 1999, 6:43 AM
> >
> 
> >Look. Stop this. We didn't fight those Punk Wars
> for people to start
> >talking like this again.
> >
> >--- Dave Segal <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> & others wrote:
> >> >> also maybe it's just me but i love Yes.  (i
> may
> >> be the only one) and
> >> >> they would fit in there somewhere.
> >> >
> >> Yes did create some pretty impressive music
> >> scattered
> >> throughout their many albums. 
> 
> Hey, you who refuses to name him/herself:
> Punk is one of the most conservative _musical_
> genres ever. How many punk albums do you still 
> listen to? If it's more than 5, then you're
> a sad individual. Prog rock, despite being nearly
> universally reviled (usually by
> people who've barely heard the music), is
> a helluva lot more sonically interesting than
> punk ever was (give me Gong's _You_ over _Never
> Mind The Bollocks_ any day).
> 
> Dave Segal
> Managing Editor/Alternative Press
> Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool
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> 

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