From Emanuel Sent Wed, Mar 22nd 2000, 19:05
From Emanuel Sent Wed, Mar 22nd 2000, 19:05
I have to totatly agree here, many people start in scene almosts clueless to what has happend before, and jumping on the bandwagon of a famous Dj playing at the time, people don't realize that the history goes way back, and Detroit has been shaped from the begining by people with soul...I have the outmost respect for UR, and all the inovators, they are truly the heart of the underground. .keep your hands off each other unless you tend to love, stay still stay together. Emanuel -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx [SMTP:xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:52 AM To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx; xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: (idm) Re: (313) NY Times Electronic Article In a message dated 3/22/00 11:58:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx writes: << Not to mention, with all due respect to Mr.Hawtin, there are OTHER detroit techno artists besides the said 4 and him...coughAlanOldham...and others that its about time people learned about. >> I think that people on this list are always going to complain when somebody like the NY Times does an article because there's no way they're going to get it right and we should be happy that they're talking about half decent electronic music at all....BUT this brings up the fine topic of why Mr. Hawtin is mentioned as the pioneer. Not to take away from Mr. Hawtin, but is it perhaps because he's white? After all, every other Detroit artist of note from that period is black. Atkins, May, Saunderson, Larkin, Banks, Craig, Mills, Hood, Deason, Baxter, Oldham, etc. etc. I like some of the old FUSE and Plus 8 stuff myself, but, you know, wouldn't Carl Craig or Mad Mike be a more appropriate choice? They seem to epitomize the Detroit sound both then and now and were originators, innovators and elevators throughout the past dozen years. Richie Hawtin started a couple years after these guys, wasn't as directly involved in the scene and as far as I can gather from this far away wasn't even liked by some of the people in Detroit, and most of his best early stuff as FUSE et al. seems indebted to Underground Resistance, Metroplex, Chicago acid, etc. That doesn't mean it is bad or his accomplishments should be doubted, but it does seem a stretch to call him a pioneer....rather call him a skilled producer with good taste. Matt np: Psyche - Evolution (yeah buddy!)