Re: [AH] MIDI wiring mess

From David Messenger
Sent Wed, Dec 26th 2018, 23:16

+1 here from me. I see this a lot on AH, most CV/gate people just are 
not all that midi knowledge oriented.  If you have thrus and don't use 
them when possible by bias about timing issues you can relax. They work 
great. A lot of newer stuff has an out and switchable thru option to the 
out, however, so people who like to avoid menu diving might as well get 
a midi patchbay for said newer stuff....

On 12/26/2018 1:21 PM, Brian Willoughby wrote:
> Keep in mind that MIDI Thru has no delay at all. Is there a specific reason why you would not want to use MIDI Thru?
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> After you wire up your MIDI master clock to the first MIDI device in your studio, you can use MIDI Thru to chain all of the devices that just need MIDI clock and nothing else. There’s no need to buy a dedicated MIDI distribution device like the 5-THRU.
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> There is no difference between the electronics in a product like the 5-THRU versus the generic MIDI Thru on a typical MIDI device. Even the accumulation of a 5-device MIDI chain would not add any latency compared to a star configuration.
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> There are a couple of caveats:
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> 1) Some devices do not have MIDI Thru. You can put them at the end of your chain of MIDI clock only devices. Hopefully, you do not have more than one, because that would prevent chaining.
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> 2) You cannot use MIDI Thru at the start of the chain, from your master MIDI clock, because any MIDI generated within a device only appears on MIDI Out, not MIDI Thru. So, the chain would start with MIDI Out, then continue with MIDI In to MIDI Thru, until the last device MIDI In only.
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> 3) Although 99% of MIDI devices have MIDI Thru wired properly with 0 latency from MIDI In, I seem to recall hearing about a few MIDI devices that have CPU processing on the MIDI stream for MIDI Thru, and that would introduce latency. That would be in violation of the MIDI standards, so I hope you don’t have any devices like that.
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> 4) Such a chain of MIDI clock is not conducive to ad-hoc changes to your MIDI setup. If you think you’ll frequently be changing your configuration, then you might want a more complicated MIDI routing setup. Your description makes it sound like you could wire up your MIDI-clocked devices once, however, and not need to revise the setup after that.
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> Brian Willoughby
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> On Dec 26, 2018, at 5:20 AM, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hi all!
>> I'm now wiring up my studio and am facing the MIDI part...
>> I do have 4 MP-88 (Miditemp) which I use to connect all devices and I do have 1 master MIDI clock - SBX-1
>> Now, I've connected the SBX-1 to my "primary" MP-88 and thought I'd connect all other MP-88 interfaces duplex (MIDI IN & OUT) to the "primary" MP-88. This way I could distribute the MIDI clock to all equipment and also I would be able to route my sequencer's outputs to whatever synth I'd like to.
>> But as I also got some devices which just need MIDI clock and nothing else, I was thinking about using the second MIDI output from the SBX-1, wire it to a "MIDI replicator" and connect to the latter only devices in need of a MIDI clock (MF-104M, MF-105M, Mo-FX). This way I would not need to occupy MIDI ports on my MP-88s "just for the sync"... And also I would not want to use THRU interfaces (for example to pass the MIDI clock from the Mo-FX to the MF-104M or similar).
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>> What are your thoughts about the above idea? Am I going the wrong path? Did I miss something?
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>> Thanks for your replies,
>> Flavio.

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