Re: (idm) RE: so stiff...

From solenoid
Sent Wed, Oct 20th 1999, 01:47

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, carl juarez wrote:

> >70's Plank and Meobius?) as being like this, and just remembered that
> >Czukay plays on some of those tracks!
> 
> He's got a good heartbeat shuffle -- perhaps the European equivalent of the
> bass grooves of Parliament/Funkadelic.  Likewise is _Zero Set_ by
> (?)Mobius/Plank/Neumaier(?) though not quite so infectious as
> Zazou/Bikaye/Cy1's _Noir et Blanc_, which was further humanized by Bikaye's
> vocals.

Oh, my retro secret weapon for mix sets!  'Noir et Blanc' is great, I
wonder if there are other old gems like this on Crammed in the mid 80's.

> >This aspect you describe as "systematic and stiff [such that] you can
> >translate it into a real infectious body rhythm" hits a nerve for me for
> >describing my fascination with drum machines, computerized-shuffle, tape
> >loops, and electronic music in general...Any other music that anyone can
> >recommend that is
> >organic/live/acoustic that has this aspect?
> 
> Miles Davis' _On the Corner_.  The cyclic bass is repetitive but breathes
> also with a human beat.  Rhythm instruments in isolation sound almost
> mathematical in concept -- almost typewriter rhythms -- but it all comes
> together into quite a groove that can last twenty minutes or more.  (Why am
> I talking like this?)  And I second the Fela Kuti.

Yes, On the Corner has been played a trillion times on my stereo... more!

> It's not inconceivable that some heavy metal and hardcore punk music would
> also fit in this area.  I recall a Voivod album . . . real chunky rhythms .


Hmmm, oh that is good, I'll check it out!  I have a voivod-fan friend,
actually, maybe he can tell me...

Thanks,

solenoid