Re: [AH] Theft in the analog community and keeping track of high cost systems?

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Sun, Feb 3rd 2019, 00:49

I suffered theft from a storage unit - probably about $10,000 worth of =
music electronics in total, new and used. I picked the particular =
location based on price alone, with little experience on the factors =
that separate a secure storage facility from a shack. The building =
holding my unit had no cameras in the hallway. All buildings were =
located within a gated perimeter with cameras on the entry/exit. Access =
codes were only available to tenants. Unfortunately, the company had a =
promotion where anyone could sign up for a new unit for $1 for the first =
month. After having my gear stolen, I realized that would-be thieves =
could basically buy access codes for $1. The video camera on the access =
gate was so poor that license plate numbers cannot be read on the =
vehicles passing through. The locks sold by the storage company were so =
cheap that thirteen units had their locks cut in a single pass. My lock =
is carbon steel, and survived the lock cutter, but the thieves simply =
cut the hasp that latched the door. They may have taken a week to move =
all of the stolen goods out of the thirteen units, but since people =
rarely visit their units, and because patrol staff didn=E2=80=99t notice =
any doors left open, a lot went missing before the company contacted all =
of the victims so they could secure what remained. In my case, the local =
police told me that thefts were quite common at that particular =
location.

My lessons included not selecting storage based on price, but on =
security features. Also, not all cameras are created equally. In =
additional, it=E2=80=99s worth checking police records to identify areas =
notorious for property theft. In the Seattle area, assault is rare, but =
property crimes are rampant and laws remain largely unenforced. Do not =
turn your back for a second on your property.

I=E2=80=99ve also learned a few things from friends who suffered losses =
of valuables in their home. Most importantly, do not leave valuables =
near windows where they are visible to outsiders. Even if a would-be =
thief has to be quite bold to walk up to a window to get a peek, they =
will find the opportunity. Once a space is broken in to, the thieves do =
not spend much time at all searching inside. They will pretty much take =
only what was visible, and what they already planned on transporting in =
advance. The risk is real-time confrontation, and so they avoid that at =
all costs.

Another friend was moving, and had packed his entire home recording =
studio into a moving van. Unfortunately, he left the keys in the =
vehicle, which was then stolen from directly in front of his (now =
former) home. The rental agency eventually recovered their van, but his =
studio equipment was long gone. Lesson: Do not trust that you can leave =
your belongings unguarded for even a second.


There are probably a hundred other ways to get ripped off. Look at =
police incident records and study the details. Talk to your local police =
officers and ask for advice. Sometimes, they=E2=80=99ll recommend =
against a car alarm, simply because they don=E2=80=99t want the hassle =
when you go on vacation and the wind sets off the motion alarm. But they =
might still have some decent advice. Look for the pawn division if you =
want specific advice regarding the kind of theft loss you might actually =
experience. Seattle has a police department dedicated to cracking down =
on break-ins where property ends up in local pawn shops. Unfortunately, =
thieves are smart enough to steal in Bellevue and sell in North Seattle, =
rather than keeping their crimes entirely within one division. Also =
unfortunate is the fact that Seattle PD couldn=E2=80=99t help with my =
Bellevue Police Report when it ended up that my electronics went on sale =
in a Seattle pawn shop. I had to buy my gear back after it had been sold =
on eBay twice!

Brian


On Feb 2, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> How is it people are getting their gear stolen so often? Break ins =
because thieves found out what you had? Stolen from gigs? I=E2=80=99d =
like to hear those stories so I can try and be safer with my precious =
gear. I acquiring quite a collection and this kind of scares me. I=E2=80=99=
m considering getting an alarm service installed but I=E2=80=99m not =
sure it=E2=80=99s worth it or not.
> Eric
>=20
> On Jan 30, 2019, at 11:41 AM, DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> It=E2=80=99s a unique system, one that=E2=80=99s easily identifiable, =
so I can confirm Ryan=E2=80=99s claim. I=E2=80=99ve got the original =
system and can compare it to what the new owner has.=20
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:39 AM Ryan L <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> I know a lot of people would like to keep anonymity in the synth =
world who have larger systems.
>>>=20
>>> But I just noticed someone on facebook posted pictures of a modular =
system which I know for a fact is stolen. =20
>>>=20
>>> That system is worth a lot of money, and I'm sure it was gotten for =
a "bargain price" as it "fell off the back of a truck"
>>>=20
>>> Would it be wise now with some analogs being worth SO much money to =
start a registry of owners? Perhaps private serials/etc. This way when =
we buy a vintage we know that the owner is legit?  It is such a small =
community it might be easy to maintain that database, and also keep it =
private.  With a request..." is this the owner" and if yes...go... or =
some SQL type thingie.  (is SQL still a thing? lol)
>>>=20
>>> I've gotten ripped off a few times before, and saw the guy try to =
resell it, and with so many avenues to resell I'm sure it got resold =
without me knowing.  Before it was a tight knit community where everyone =
kinda knew whose system was whose. =20
>>=20