Re: (idm) out-of tune/out of time (was: Tally Ho)

From Peter Hollo
Sent Mon, Oct 19th 1998, 04:53

(A little while ago) Dave Walker wrote:
> The day I ever start to even remotely care about anything like that
> someone please kindly take me out back and kindly put a big-assed slug
> in the back of my head.
>
>    pretty damned glad to have never
>    taken courses in music theory,

As has been pointed out already, it's got nothing to do with music
theory - I studied music at school and have played classical music all
my life, and there are others who have studied with me who have
absolutely shocking aural skills and remain tone deaf. If you're tone
deaf, lucky you (maybe... I'd argue the point) but for those of us who
aren't, samples that are out of tune (that's out of tune, not in a
different key or something - Stravinsky among many others wrote
brilliant bi-tonal music at the start of this century) do indeed have a
physical effect - on me, as well as Che and I believe Irene McC, along
with many others I'm sure.
When there are out of tune elements in a song I can sometimes almost
filter it out if it's not too much, but at other times it can make me
feel slightly sick (queasy perhaps) and usually ruins a track for me -
it ends up getting skipped when I'm listening to an album.

Not bothering to make one's samples in tune is as sloppy as badly
cutting up samples so that there's clicking, or not aligning samples so
that the rhythms don't match (which, unfortunately, is something that
marrs a couple of the tracks on Neotropic's otherwise excellent new
album). It seriously reduces the effect of a piece of music.
It's got nothing to do with musical snobbishness, although I do think
that to be proud of one's ignorance is perplexing to say the least.
Mostly when a pop musician proudly states that because they have no
musical knowledge they can make more innovative music or something, they
are nowhere near as interesting and innovative as they think - it's just
that they don't know what they're doing, and don't know the historical
perpective...

By the way Dave - I don't mean to be flaming you at all, this is more
about the people who seem to come up with this quite regularly in my
experience.

;) Peter.
np: Multiphonic Ensemble - King of May (on Sub Rosa). Very Biskesque,
and very good - don't know why it hasn't been mentioned pretty much at
all; it seems to be copyright 1997.
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