From 0 Sent Wed, Nov 26th 1997, 10:15
From 0 Sent Wed, Nov 26th 1997, 10:15
> > What I said was that "dance music" wasn't a useful phrase in defining IDM, > because a lot of it _isn't_ dance music. It wasn't meant to be an > exclusive statement. There's IDM that isn't dance music, I dunno. I've been going to "rave" parties more often lately than I have ever gone to in my life. Here in LA, unfortunately TRANCE seems dominate the majority of the parties. After looking around at the silly ways people dance (most of it looks like they're on invisible pogo sticks) I could see myself DANCING to every frigging IDM piece of music I own. I can't dance for shit to a straight 4 on the floor uncomplicated song by _The Infinity Project_. Therefor, my stupid "dancing" would prolly fit in more with a wicked Autechre track. Fuckit all IDM is DANCE MUSIC. If not, why do TWO of the 3 letters stand for DANCE MUSIC? It's all danceable, pal. Even if it's got no beat, it could be danced to. (at least my modern dance friend says so, and she's a professional:) snip > Who cares if the 'MTV generation' picks up on it, as long as they don't > sell out? I think this is what I find to be my biggest gripe with the prodigy. I don't care for them all that much, but jesus they look like a bunch of Marylin Manson types with all that make up and shit they wear. You say that they are IDM. FINE. But they have got to be Sell out IDM'ers cuz I don't know any other fucking IDM artist's that wear make up, spend all their money piercing and tattoing themselves and shout "WE ROCK!" at their concerts. they sold themselves out to the ROCKnROLL method of making money. as far as their music goes: I love the EXPERIENCE album. It's just one of those silly old skool techno albums that has those high pitched "one!two!three!four!" samples in it. Other than that CD, I can't stand the P's music, but whatever. Their selling out cannot be disputed. For some reason, I expect a counter argument saying "Oh and RDJ is not a sell out either? He's on a Major label (SIRE) and has his video on MTV" I know somebody is thinking this way. Being on MTV and on a major label has nothing to do with selling out. Selling out is letting yerself get co-opted by the industry. Honestly, look at Prodigy and then look at Green Day and you will see many many similarities, but Green Day aren't as pathetic. > > My hope is that some of the kids who see Keith-The-Clown on MTV will get > into the music itself, and branch into more of the truly incredible, less > known stuff out there. I will never villify an act for making excellent > music known - after all, if nobody knows about it, what good is it? Uhmmm, I think plenty of people know about without the help of Mtv. Techno never needed Mtv nor a specific ACT to expand itself. It was all word of mouth or being handed a mixtape for me. IMO it'd be better for the newbies to learn this way. I tend to think that if a newbie is turned on to a tune simply by hearing it played thru my stereo, or something similar, he/she will appreciate the music for what it is. By being turned on to it, by what's on TV or Rolling Stone cover has the POTENTIAL, read _potential_, to simply like it b/c it is a fad. That is exactly what alternative music suffered. If a newbie hears prodigy and then gets into more excellent electronic music, more power to them, but I doubt 95% of the people who look at Mtv for their avenue into "new" genres ever really stick it out with that specific genre for the long haul. I mean my days of Iron Maiden fandom are over. WHY? Prolly b/c Mtv got rid of the HEadbangers Ball. No the truth is a grew outta the fad. In the end, I can't blame Prodigy for one ounce of what they do. If I was in a position like that, I'd milk it for every fucking penny too!Yep, I'm being somewhat hypocritical. It's like the saying "We all hate the rich, but we want to be rich!" dance yer ass ass off, gil np: Rave til Dawn (flame away)