Re: (idm) Trip Hop You Don't Stop

From Jeff Barszcz
Sent Fri, Jul 16th 1999, 06:27

At 12:10 AM 7/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, mtheulthetant wrote:
>
>> >> >>seriously, how can there be 'smart' trip hop when all they're doing is
>> >> >>watering down another culture's music to make it more acceptable for a
>> >> >>white suburban audience.
>> >> >
>> >> >You mean like Aphex and Squarepusher did with jungle?
>> >> 
>> >> exactly!
>> >
>> >I hope this is at least partially tongue-in-cheek. 
>> 
>> well the comment about aphex and squarepusher is, but the trip hop isn't.
>> 
>> >Give it a rest. Why is it so important that rhythmic mumbling about
>> >"bitches" and "benjamins" be included on top of downtempo breaks? 
>> 
>> this response makes me very sad.
>> 
>> let me put this in perspective..  have you ever had someone come up to you
>> and say, 'whats the point of that electronic music? it's all just people
>> with funny hair and nose rings screaming the same phrase over and over
>> again'. similar situation.
>> 
>> generalizations will get you nowhere, one puff daddy video doesn't make you
>> an expert...
>> 
>> >Boot
>> >to the head.
>> 
>> i do hope they're a pair of Timbs.
>> 
>> keepin' it real, repin' nu jeru to tha fullest xtent
>
>hey, anyone wanna buy my hip-hop, jazz, dub, blues, and techno music
>collections? apparently my pervasive whiteness says i can't own these
>records anymore. something about "misappropriation of culture"...

Yeah, I think us crackers can only respectfully listen to Mozart and shit
these days.  Seriously, what is watered-down about instrumental hip hop?  I
don't get it.  Of course there are weak as shit "trip hop" acts out there.
There's terrible music made in any genre.  I think the term "trip hop" just
has bad associations.    
        BTW, [Squarepusher is to jungle as Kenny G. is to jazz] jus' don't sound
right to me.  It's guys like Squarepusher and Plug that got me interested
in d'n'b.  They actually made it interesting (as opposed to all that ragga
bullshit with the whack-ass MCs and the boring as fuck breaks).   

Jeff