From Mauro Sent Sat, Mar 24th 2018, 19:02
hi there! (another lurker here) i see your point, but at the same time: "Much of life is about struggle, and overcoming obstacles." such as stop making fun (_not saying the artist is doing it_) of violence towards a certain group of people, right? or you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person? either way, this discussion belongs to another mailing list i guess. and yeah, the music is really good. (back to the topic of this list heh) On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, J L <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi everyone, long time lurker. > > > I think it seems obvious that his pseudonym has nothing to do with beatin= g anyone up. > > > It's a slippery slope for the arts. If artists keep catering to fragile s= afe spaces, and politically mandated speech and correctness, they will even= tually be shut down for expressing opinions or even emotions that may diffe= r from establishment ones. Perhaps music & percussion that's too aggressive= sounding, fast, or doesn't conform to establishment ideology will be censo= red, & or shut down? > > As an example, RDJ has expressed differing opinions from establishment on= es in various interviews. Also there was John Major's criminal justice bill= which attempted to outlaw repetitive beats. > > > "This artist name, or music makes me feel uncomfortable so lets ban it." = Enough with the outrage. Life isn't always about being comfortable. Much of= life is about struggle, and overcoming obstacles. > > > Never heard of the guy, but this is a cool album btw. Definitely gonna pi= ck this up. Thanks for the info Clint! > > > > https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/ > > Beatwife > beatwife.bandcamp.com > Beatwife Earl R=C3=B6gnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy = Fl=C3=B6w 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat B=C3=B6wler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Planker=C3= =B6n 6. Acid Acid 7. Export Grabber 8. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Eric Fairbanks <xxxx.x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:11 PM > To: Mauro > Cc: IDM > Subject: Re: beatwife podcast > > Aha hey there Mauro! And yeah, I don't mean to be dismissive. It's not so= mething I would choose to do. > > There's another artist out there who goes by something like "stage 4 canc= er" or something that seems a bit insensitive as well, though not in quite = the same way. > > I get that art doesn't need all it's edges sanded off, but I'd think if y= ou're going to have a name like that, it at least deserves some kind of obv= ious explanation. Unless (perhaps even if) it's meant to make a statement b= ecause you're donating album proceeds to domestic-violence-related groups o= r something it at best comes off as tasteless and at worst as making light = of something awful. > > I think some artists, especially those who make more inaccessible, noisy,= horror-driven music might see it as bringing attention to ugly things with= the sort of inherent disclaimer that they're not advocating them, but I do= ubt that comes through to the casual listener or someone intimately familia= r with the matter. Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but it's not really an excu= se anyway as it doesn't change how it impacts others. > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 11:45 AM Mauro <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > "Ah yeah, those are beaten up women but it's ok, it always have been > this way. you know, boys will be boys, nothing serious." :) > > PS: hey eric! > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Eric Fairbanks > <xxxx.x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > Names like that are pretty common in the breakcore circuit. They tend t= oward deliberately offensive/horrifying/inflammatory. Y'all ever see any of= VSnare's album artwork or track names? > > > > Guess it depends on your feelings on being upsetting in (presumably) a = tongue-in-cheek way. > > > > I can see it being a turnoff, but I also assume that Aaron Funk isn't a= ctually advocating befriending child killers. > > > > Music is art blah blah censorship yadda yadda. > > > > I haven't listened to much beatwife so idk. > > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 9:39 AM Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>= wrote: > >> > >> Guys, marketing has its reasons that the reason ignores. > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:18 PM, nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote= : > >>> > >>> These explanations all make sense, but they don't excuse the name, at= all. It's a disgusting name. If we all agree, we should collectively tel= l him? > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx= > wrote: > >>> > >>> As for me, i assumed it was some tribute to the =C2=AB Beat that bitc= h with a bat =C2=BB track, or some other reference everybody here would get= except me ! > >>> > >>> If not , his Max4Live patches names suggest that he has audio under h= is skin, i mean his =C2=AB wife =C2=BB gets literally sequenced, broken, co= nvolved, twiddled, rushed, effected, doctored and... eventually =C2=AB tran= z =C2=BB. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wr= ote: > >>>> > >>>> i guess i assumed that it was ironic in the sense that maybe he is t= he wife and he makes beats > >>>> i dunno > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Clint Anderson > >>>> Systems Engineer > >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Baptiste Bacot <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx= il.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I suggest =C2=AB RapeK!dz =C2=BB for the next moniker, it=E2=80=99s= way more appropriate. > >>>>> Unfortunately, the mix and the production seem good, but I dont wan= t to spend much time listening to this guy=E2=80=99s music, because of that= name. > >>>>> The list seems terribly silent on that matter. What do you guys and= girls think about this =C2=AB artist name =C2=BB? I just want to hear from= you : do you find the alias legitimate, and if not, why? > >>>>> > >>>>> Best, > >>>>> > >>>>> BB > >>>>> > >>>>> Le 23 mars 2018 =C3=A0 15:16, nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> a =C3= =A9crit : > >>>>> > >>>>> "beat wife"?! > >>>>> Really? > >>>>> Dude needs to change his name now. > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> From: Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:06 AM > >>>>> To: IDM > >>>>> Subject: beatwife podcast > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.orbmag.com/music/orb-podcast-002-beatwife/ > >>>>> Orb Podcast 002: Beatwife - Orb Mag > >>>>> www.orbmag.com > >>>>> Since his debut EP, Ritilin, in 2008, Scottish born, Los Angeles-ba= sed producer, Richard Wilson, has been creating music under his alias Beatw= ife. His approach towards acid, IDM, and experimental music, combined with = his knowledge of audio technology, including his signature software and mod= ified equipment, has resulted in the creation of Beatwife=E2=80=99s distinc= tive sound. Beatwife released his =E2=80=A6 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Clint Anderson > >>>>> Systems Engineer > >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>