Re: beatwife podcast

From Mauro
Sent Sat, Mar 24th 2018, 19:02

hi there! (another lurker here)

i see your point, but at the same time: "Much of life is about
struggle, and overcoming obstacles." such as stop making fun (_not
saying the artist is doing it_) of violence towards a certain group of
people, right? or you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that
"sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person? either way,
this discussion belongs to another mailing list i guess.

and yeah, the music is really good. (back to the topic of this list heh)

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, J L <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> Hi everyone, long time lurker.
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> I think it seems obvious that his pseudonym has nothing to do with beatin=
g anyone up.
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> It's a slippery slope for the arts. If artists keep catering to fragile s=
afe spaces, and politically mandated speech and correctness, they will even=
tually be shut down for expressing opinions or even emotions that may diffe=
r from establishment ones. Perhaps music & percussion that's too aggressive=
 sounding, fast, or doesn't conform to establishment ideology will be censo=
red, & or shut down?
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> As an example, RDJ has expressed differing opinions from establishment on=
es in various interviews. Also there was John Major's criminal justice bill=
 which attempted to outlaw repetitive beats.
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> "This artist name, or music makes me feel uncomfortable so lets ban it." =
Enough with the outrage. Life isn't always about being comfortable. Much of=
 life is about struggle, and overcoming obstacles.
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>
> Never heard of the guy, but this is a cool album btw. Definitely gonna pi=
ck this up. Thanks for the info Clint!
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> https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/
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> Beatwife
> beatwife.bandcamp.com
> Beatwife Earl R=C3=B6gnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy =
Fl=C3=B6w 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat B=C3=B6wler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Planker=C3=
=B6n 6. Acid Acid 7. Export Grabber 8.
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> ________________________________
> From: Eric Fairbanks <xxxx.x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:11 PM
> To: Mauro
> Cc: IDM
> Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
>
> Aha hey there Mauro! And yeah, I don't mean to be dismissive. It's not so=
mething I would choose to do.
>
> There's another artist out there who goes by something like "stage 4 canc=
er" or something that seems a bit insensitive as well, though not in quite =
the same way.
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> I get that art doesn't need all it's edges sanded off, but I'd think if y=
ou're going to have a name like that, it at least deserves some kind of obv=
ious explanation. Unless (perhaps even if) it's meant to make a statement b=
ecause you're donating album proceeds to domestic-violence-related groups o=
r something it at best comes off as tasteless and at worst as making light =
of something awful.
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> I think some artists, especially those who make more inaccessible, noisy,=
 horror-driven music might see it as bringing attention to ugly things with=
 the sort of inherent disclaimer that they're not advocating them, but I do=
ubt that comes through to the casual listener or someone intimately familia=
r with the matter. Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but it's not really an excu=
se anyway as it doesn't change how it impacts others.
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> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 11:45 AM Mauro <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> "Ah yeah, those are beaten up women but it's ok, it always have been
> this way. you know, boys will be boys, nothing serious." :)
>
> PS: hey eric!
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>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Eric Fairbanks
> <xxxx.x.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Names like that are pretty common in the breakcore circuit. They tend t=
oward deliberately offensive/horrifying/inflammatory. Y'all ever see any of=
 VSnare's album artwork or track names?
> >
> > Guess it depends on your feelings on being upsetting in (presumably) a =
tongue-in-cheek way.
> >
> > I can see it being a turnoff, but I also assume that Aaron Funk isn't a=
ctually advocating befriending child killers.
> >
> > Music is art blah blah censorship yadda yadda.
> >
> > I haven't listened to much beatwife so idk.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 9:39 AM Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>=
 wrote:
> >>
> >> Guys, marketing has its reasons that the reason ignores.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:18 PM, nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote=
:
> >>>
> >>> These explanations all make sense, but they don't excuse the name, at=
 all.  It's a disgusting name.  If we all agree, we should collectively tel=
l him?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx=
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As for me, i assumed it was some tribute to the =C2=AB Beat that bitc=
h with a bat =C2=BB track, or some other reference everybody here would get=
 except me !
> >>>
> >>> If not , his Max4Live patches names suggest that he has audio under h=
is skin, i mean his =C2=AB wife =C2=BB gets literally sequenced, broken, co=
nvolved, twiddled, rushed, effected, doctored and... eventually =C2=AB tran=
z =C2=BB.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wr=
ote:
> >>>>
> >>>> i guess i assumed that it was ironic in the sense that maybe he is t=
he wife and he makes beats
> >>>> i dunno
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Clint Anderson
> >>>> Systems Engineer
> >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Baptiste Bacot <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx=
il.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suggest =C2=AB RapeK!dz =C2=BB for the next moniker, it=E2=80=99s=
 way more appropriate.
> >>>>> Unfortunately, the mix and the production seem good, but I dont wan=
t to spend much time listening to this guy=E2=80=99s music, because of that=
 name.
> >>>>> The list seems terribly silent on that matter. What do you guys and=
 girls think about this =C2=AB artist name =C2=BB? I just want to hear from=
 you : do you find the alias legitimate, and if not, why?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 23 mars 2018 =C3=A0 15:16, nat hawks <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> a =C3=
=A9crit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "beat wife"?!
> >>>>> Really?
> >>>>> Dude needs to change his name now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> From: Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:06 AM
> >>>>> To: IDM
> >>>>> Subject: beatwife podcast
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.orbmag.com/music/orb-podcast-002-beatwife/
> >>>>> Orb Podcast 002: Beatwife - Orb Mag
> >>>>> www.orbmag.com
> >>>>> Since his debut EP, Ritilin, in 2008, Scottish born, Los Angeles-ba=
sed producer, Richard Wilson, has been creating music under his alias Beatw=
ife. His approach towards acid, IDM, and experimental music, combined with =
his knowledge of audio technology, including his signature software and mod=
ified equipment, has resulted in the creation of Beatwife=E2=80=99s distinc=
tive sound. Beatwife released his =E2=80=A6
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Clint Anderson
> >>>>> Systems Engineer
> >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>