Re: [AH] Which overdrive pedal for TB-303?

From David Bivins
Sent Wed, Mar 20th 2019, 03:31

I just built a Big Muff clone a few weeks ago. I checked it out on
guitar but not on my 303! I'll have to do that tomorrow.

Also - LOL - check out this blog post and the link in it. Last year.
http://modelagnostic.co.uk/blog/quest-for-the-ultimate-303-distortion


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:09 PM Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I used a big muff on a really hard acidy track like 15 years ago sending =
both a 909 and 202 through it and I thought it sounded kick ass. There may =
have been another EH pedal on it as well though like a delay or some such t=
hing, I can=E2=80=99t remember. Anyway, I just bought another one to mess a=
round with; now I have three, the other two needing repair. I probably woul=
dn=E2=80=99t use it for clean sounding stuff but I think it=E2=80=99s a bea=
st for more aggressive noise. I just ordered a Boss Rod-10 per Tony=E2=80=
=99s? Suggestion and am exited to give that a go. I thought Hardfloor used =
a Boss Metal Zone? Don=E2=80=99t know why I think that though; I did see th=
eir setup once many years ago in Chicago; perhaps they had one for that, or=
 I could be making that up.
> Eric
>
> > On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:37 PM, David Bivins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > I had a Sovtek Big Muff Pi and ended up selling it because I didn't
> > like it sounded with any of my synths. But I hadn't tried Tomislav's
> > approach, which is really smart. I didn't like the ProCo Rat, either.
> > I thought they were both too ugly sounding. I'd probably like them
> > more, now.
> > I like the Boss HM-2 because it can give a big, round boost, like a
> > compressor; it has EQ to dial the bass in and keep it in; and it
> > wildly accentuates the resonant frequency of the 303, making it sound
> > like a nightmare beast on the attack. You can be a little subtle with
> > it, but it works best "dimed" - everything up to 10. I always liked
> > the sound on the Cluster label (the UK label, not the German band,
> > which I like, too), e.g. D.A.V.E. the Drummer and Chris Liberator, and
> > I felt the HM-2 got me that powerful sound. I thought it sounded a bit
> > like Hardfloor, too, but I think they actually used a Rat.
> > No google was used in the making of this post, so I might have my facts=
 wrong :)
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:13 PM Eric Wood <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrot=
e:
> >>
> >> I was wondering if anyone was using the Big Muff
> >>
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tomislav Babic <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>=
 wrote:
> >>
> >> yes splitting the signal,  and mixing little bit of dry under the over=
driven component.
> >> even better if you lowpass the dry with  gentle slope like 12 or 6dB/o=
ct starting as low as 150 Hz , plus minus.
> >>
> >> i use DI box for split; thru goes to the pedal (MXR Dist+ custom shop,=
 Iron Ether Oxide or one of my Big Muffs)
> >> and xlr is fed to a mic pre input.  lowpass i do in daw.
> >>
> >> that said, i find thi necessary once in a blue moon - it depends on th=
e role of 303 or similar synth will have in
> >> the arrangement.  for low bass i dont like drive, or resonance. howeve=
r for that hardcore "mid bass" range
> >> where it slaps you silly,   sometimes you want that  overdriven bass l=
ight sound.  specially if another 303,
> >> or sh2 or something is doing the low bass beneath.  so they each have =
breathing space.
> >>
> >> its been a while since i sold my 303 but i still use the same wet/dry =
tehnique with sh2, sh101 and sys100.
> >>
> >> PS on a related note, i have had a RE303 built recently, and i am sorr=
y to admit it sounds nothing like the 303.
> >> we have done direct a/b and  its rather dissapointing.   i am pissed o=
ff for time and energy i have spent into
> >> this wild goose chase.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:13 PM Paco deBongo <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>=
 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> BTW--just from casual observation--I'm pretty sure that the devilfish=
 will lose the bottom end too w/ its built in overdrive--It is a nice overd=
rive, but none that I have encounter are perfect--I don't think there's any=
way around losing the bottom--shy of splitting the signal and mixing it wet=
/dry--or having two acid boxes...Maybe run overdrive thru just the mixer an=
d then compress the signal back down?
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if a bass overdrive might be the ticket?
> >>>
> >>> Any one here design an overdrive circuit?  How does frequency respons=
e come into play?  Is it even amplitude boost at all frequencies?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:35 PM Computer Controlled <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.x=
om> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> That was modeled off the Devilfish OD.
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought this was a Gearslutz thread at first.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:02 AM negativesaucer <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx=
l.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> whatever they modeled for the tb-03 dist.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 9:31 AM Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.=
com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Andy.
> >>>>>> I was in fact "complaining" about losing volume with my Dunlop MXR=
 M104 pedal (other thread). So which pedal maintains the levels the same as=
 they are when bypassed?
> >>>>>> F.
> >>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am Di., 19. M=C3=A4rz 2019 um 14:27 Uhr schrieb Andrew Simper <an=
xx@xxxxxxx.xxx>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Out of all the Tube Screamer pedals I recommend the TS9-DX since =
it's the most versatile in a studio situation, but the levels vary greatly =
when switching modes. For live use I would go the Boss OS-2 as you get to s=
witch between overdrive and distortion tones and the levels remain pretty c=
onstant with the blend.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:41, Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxx=
l.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi folks.
> >>>>>>>> While I'm waiting for the new TS-303, I started looking around f=
or an overdrive pedal for my TS-303.
> >>>>>>>> I've read that the Ibanez TS-808 might be the best... and I foun=
d this link:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.proaudioland.com/news/differences-between-the-ibanez=
-ts808-ts9-and-ts9dx/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So, which one would you recommend? Not only Ibanez, but in gener=
al...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> F.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from The Off World Colonies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jesse
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ---
> >> Tomislav Babic
> >> www.babic.com - studio, mp3, info
> >> xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx
> >>
> >> www.myspace.com/nimbusdei