Re: [AH] Capturing / Digitizing Video Synthesizers (PAL/NTSC)

From David Messenger
Sent Tue, Jun 18th 2019, 01:02

I think the Hauppage stuff should work:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925432-REG/hauppauge_1512_hd_pvr_2_video.html

D/

On 6/17/2019 6:50 PM, Kenny Balys wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> I had plenty of feedback offline.
>
> Basically, most of the cheapo converters available now take both
> PAL and NTSC down to 640x480 which is rubbish.
>
> All of the BlackMagic boxes require a very sync'd and stable video
> feed so useless for most people, wonderful for a few. You need
> something called a "Time Base Corrector" rack to generate the
> stable video feed. This, in my mind, is rather silly. We are living
> in the future now and a decent piece of code should be able to
> handle what ever crufty video is thrown at their stuff. But no.
>
> If you are using NTSC you can use a Sony Digital-8 camera as a video
> input/digitizer and then output via FireWire to the 2003 iMac that
> just everyone has kicking around.
>
> For PAL video, none of the Euro released cameras will act as a video
> input. This was for copyright reasons if I understand correctly.
> The excitement and frenzy around the very few PAL Digital-8 recorder
> decks that come up for sale fully illustrates this.
>
> A really fine solution suggested to me was a dedicated solid state
> video recorder box from Japan: (thanks to Suit&Tie)
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Video-Game-Capture-Recorder-1080p-60fps-Live-Streaming-Device-TMREC-FHD-F-S/202704704583 
>
>
> This seemed a little rich for me so I ordered an El-Cheapo clone
> from China: (not confirmed to work yet)
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/VHS-Camcorder-Hi8-Tape-Converter-Audio-Video-Capture-8G-MP3-Player-AV-Recorder/202678960641?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 
>
>
> It claims to support full resolution NTSC and PAL. I guess I will see.
> If not, then I will have to step and get the Japanese unit.
>
> In the event that this thing works, then I will have a little solid state
> recorder that I can hang off my modular rack.
>
> Fingers crossed, will report back here if its good.
>
>
>
> On 18.06.19 24:19 , Ben Bridges wrote:
>> I am also keen on some kind of converter to get analogue video into 
>> my computer
>> from the RCA out on my VHS or video sytnths.
>>
>> I bought a USB capture device under the name EasyCap but it didn't 
>> work at all.
>> If there is a solution available I would like to know.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> On 15/6/2019 10:37 AM, Kenny Balys wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you using to capture PAL video synth sessions?
>>>
>>> Many of us here are now using Eurorack and other format video 
>>> synthesizers.
>>>
>>> I would like to see how people are capturing this video.
>>>
>>> Currently I have two different systems. One is PAL video. The other 
>>> NTSC.
>>>
>>> For NTSC, capturing is easy. I have a Sony Mini-DV camera that can act
>>> as a capture / digitizer. This then can be sent to a computer with
>>> a FireWire link.
>>>
>>> Sadly, because of European copyright rules, all DV cameras in Europe 
>>> have
>>> the video capture / digitize function disabled. So no such solution 
>>> for PAL.
>>>
>>> I purchased a BlackMagic "Intensity Shuttle" to capture PAL video but
>>> it is utter rubbish. This device (and all BlackMagic devices I am told)
>>> will not capture anything but the most perfect and conditioned TBC'd
>>> video. Nowhere on the box does it mention this.
>>>
>>> The entire point of analogue video synthesis is to push the envelope 
>>> and
>>> boundaries of video. This will never equal time base corrected video.
>>>
>>> So the BlackMagic Intensity Shuttle is a useless brick.
>>>
>>> If anyone on the list is capturing PAL video synth sessions, I would 
>>> love
>>> to hear what you are using.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: Hope this is not too OT.
>>
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