From Peter Forrest Sent Sun, Feb 17th 2019, 19:28
Ah yes, the other side of that coin! Peter -----Original Message----- From: Tom Bugs [mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx]=20 Sent: 17 February 2019 18:51 To: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [AH] ARP2600P with 3604 Duophonic Keyboard and 1613 Arp = Sequencer Umm, well, actually - in the recent Tears for Fears auction I didn't get = a look in at the H3000 I wanted due to the spending power of Uli B! On 17/02/2019 10:47, Peter Forrest wrote: > There's an interesting variation of auction systems called 'Dutch = auction' - in the UK at least - it might be called English auction in = the Netherlands for all I know. > Basically the auction starts at a high price and then goes down until = someone jumps in. > It must be incredibly tense in a live room, looking round at your = rivals and waiting to see a sign that they are going to bid. > But it requires the auctioneer to know a price which is higher than an = item could possibly reach - not always easy - plus you don't get = competitive bidding in the same way. > I guess you could have a variation of this where the bidding could = then start going up again if there was competition. > As for supply and demand, in the current world there are a tiny tiny = proportion of people for whom price is almost irrelevant - they have so = much money from bitcoin or London property or merchant banking or oil or = whatever that 10000s are like tens to most ordinary people. You just = have to hope they don't want the things you want. > At least thanks to Uli B we can have impressive knock-offs of classics = at ultra-reasonable prices. > Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Willoughby [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: 17 February 2019 02:50 > To: Analog Heaven > Subject: Re: [AH] ARP2600P with 3604 Duophonic Keyboard and 1613 Arp = Sequencer > > There=E2=80=99s the basic rule of economics: Supply versus Demand. As = the supply of money goes up (all countries are increasing the supply of = their fiat monies), prices go up. The only exception are advances in = efficiency which cause prices to go down. Meanwhile, as the supply of = money goes up, the supply of ARP 2600 synths is slowly diminishing. > > I don=E2=80=99t see how this can be blamed on credit cards. = It=E2=80=99s unsustainable to continue to buy things just because credit = cards allow instant access to money. At some point, people have to pay = for their synths - plus interest! > > There=E2=80=99s also the principle of =E2=80=9Cclearing the = market.=E2=80=9D There may be only one person out there who really wants = an awesome example of a 2600 with sequencer, but if it=E2=80=99s offered = at a lower price then lots of people will try to buy it and it might not = go to the person who=E2=80=99ll most appreciate it. Whether you have = millions of similar items or just one, you start at a high price and = keep lowering it until you=E2=80=99ve sold all of the inventory (or you = find that it=E2=80=99s better to just keep the remaining inventory at = the final price). > > On Feb 16, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Justin Maxwell <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Or we can go with Occam's razor and say that prices have gone up = because demand has gone up. >> >> There's a slight twist in that auction sites are driving prices way = up as sellers offset fees with higher prices, but if someone is paying = $x for a synth it's worth $x to them, as simple as that. >> >> On Feb 16, 2019 at 6:36 PM, <Frank Bonarrigo> wrote: >>> No, Im just suspicious of the cost of gear in general. Been into = buying gear since the early 90=E2=80=99s and the only conclusion I can = come with is people are buying with credit cards. Which makes people buy = with less pause ,I think, and prices go up. >>> >>> >>> Not that your arp is not worth what you are asking. Its awesome > --=20 BugBrand LTD UK company No. 07199808 VAT No. GB 988 2629 57 1 Ninetree Hill BRISTOL BS1 3SB United Kingdom www.bugbrand.co.uk --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com