From Mauro Sent Thu, Sep 3rd 2015, 02:27
From Mauro Sent Thu, Sep 3rd 2015, 02:27
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Chris <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > That Tycho stuff needs to GTFO Hi, I'll step aside from the shadows for a moment to second this. Also, when I first read this mail though "yeah man, fuck bogdan raczynski" but these last days I've been hearing his newer stuff and my opinion went to "bogdan, your old stuff sucks. sincerely a random guy from teh interweb". > > On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write > terrible lyrics' -- i can think of an example, venetian snares! > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM, kent williams <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > wrote: >> >> There's good self-indulgence and bad self-indulgence, at least in music. >> Good self-indulgence is finding something you want to explore and going = all >> the way in without worrying about how it's going to be received or how w= ell >> it fits standard formats. An example is the way Riccardo Villalobos mak= es >> 20 minute tracks. They're not all great, but the good ones are unlike >> anything else. >> >> Bad self-indulgence would be to sing an album of tracks when you aren't = a >> good singer and you write terrible lyrics. I can't think of an IDM exam= ple, >> and even then that's subjective. >> >> It's good self-indulgence when you don't think about whether anyone else >> will like it, and it turns out good. It's bad self-indulgence if you fol= low >> your muse, and the result sucks. >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:27 AM Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>> >>> yeah i dunno i was thinking about that -- how is being self-indulgent a >>> bad thing? >>> also, by saying that, are you implying that the artists you DO like are >>> NOT self indulgent? >>> (name some i bet they all are) >>> >>> anyways tom being a ass that everyone hates just makes me like him more >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Seruyange <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've always liked Squarepusher though stuff like 'Music Is Rotted..' d= id >>>> had some low points ("self indulgent" though I guess he's an artist wi= th the >>>> right to make what he wants and I can opt not to buy... or just listen= to >>>> individual tracks). >>>> >>>> Never liked Moby, never understood why he was as popular as he was... >>>> even for the stuff that was more classified as pop. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrot= e: >>>>> >>>>> go back >>>>> tom >>>>> do it again >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:39 PM, A. Arentia Goofinoff >>>>> <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> as in squarepusher was named after a mythical sex toy then? one shou= ld >>>>>> not try to fit a square peg in a round hole! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015 9:23 PM, "Clint Anderson" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the steely dan of techno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, kent williams >>>>>>> <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also like that the kind of stuff by Squarepusher I like (like >>>>>>>> "Music Is Rotted One Note") is cited as something someone else on = the list >>>>>>>> hates. "Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially th= e >>>>>>>> self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff." Thanks Mark! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We do also need to start a soundcloud free account in the name >>>>>>>> "SQUARPUSHER" and start posting wierd shit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this is funny because in theory doesnt squarepusher .. 'push' a l= ot >>>>>>>>> of albums? i mean i get the impression that second to afx he is = one of >>>>>>>>> warp's bigger electronic acts but yet every other person i talk t= o HATES his >>>>>>>>> music, not just dislikes but people say stuff just like what you = guys are >>>>>>>>> sort of saying, like that his style is actually offensively 'self= indulgent' >>>>>>>>> to people heh >>>>>>>>> i guess i kind of see this but at the same time it really doesnt >>>>>>>>> affect me listening to the music or maybe i even enjoy that aspec= t of it...i >>>>>>>>> loved big loada, hard normal daddy, damogen furies, i thought ufa= bulum was >>>>>>>>> eh, but then he came out with the kcrw sessions which basically '= fixed' the >>>>>>>>> issues i had with ufabulum... >>>>>>>>> i dunno my one best friend says vehemently "there is NOTHING >>>>>>>>> original or interesting about ANYTHING he's done" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark Schieldrop >>>>>>>>> <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the >>>>>>>>>> self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And obligatory: Moby. Though, he=E2=80=99s arguably not IDM. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Laurent Knauth [mailto:xxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:39 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Faraz Masroor >>>>>>>>>> Cc: Idm List >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IDM you don't like >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Problem with this topic is that the list is endless... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hell is the limit ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Faraz Masroor >>>>>>>>>> <xxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have a lot of discussion here about history of IDM, podcasts, >>>>>>>>>> new releases were interested in, etc. Basically stuff we like, b= ut how about >>>>>>>>>> a thread for stuff you don't like? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin very interesting because his >>>>>>>>>> new songs are unfocused and too similar to each other, kinda bor= ing. I >>>>>>>>>> haven't listened to SAW yet but I imagine I'll like it better. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Faraz >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >