From Cyclone Wehner Sent Mon, Jul 10th 2000, 01:04
From Cyclone Wehner Sent Mon, Jul 10th 2000, 01:04
I've seen him and he was OK - he did this live double-bass thing as well, not a great DJ, but the concept was interesting. Spooky doesn't see himself as mainstream at all, in fact he gets a lot of flack for his intellectual approach from the NY establishment. He sees it like, why can't an African-American man be an intellectual, a conceptualist, I don't want to do what the mainstream deems to be 'Black music' like gangsta rap or whatever. He is big on contemporary French philosophy (more influential than you'd think) and sees himself as intervening in those discourses. I like what he has to say (he has toured Australia a couple of times) but I would say that he has become the Warp of hip-hop - an artist who conservative non hip-hop (rock audiences) heads co-opt as he is non-threatening, which is ironic given the above. The same way that rock kids will listen to Warp ahead of some radical Detroit soul. Though I am not knocking Warp and there are thankfully many exceptions. >Welcome to the real world????? >If you see some of these names overtly publicized, you'd better take a close >look cause more than likely something is wrong with that picture, you don't >see the Underground Cats getting that much hype, why do you think. The big >boys have a way of getting paid of off names like DJ Spooky, and many others >that crossed over to the mainstream. Mainstream is where the money is at, >but they suck the artist dry and destroy the reputation of something >worthwhile, look at the "Alternative Scene", the "Hip-Hop Scene", they are >even tapping into the Drum and Bass scene, of course Detroit Techno is hard >for them to grasp, and believe me they have been trying real hard to buy >into that market. But cats like UR won't sell out, 430 West won't sell out, >Direct Beat won't sell out, and many more who know this game very well, TP, >educate the folks tell them how it is.......I know you know............. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JavierDrada" <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx> >To: "313" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:33 PM >Subject: Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke > > >> Because Industry Hype is powered by money, big labels dump lots of money >to >> brainwash urban kids into spending their cash on crap!!!!!!!The corporate >> monopoly........... >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter B Leidy" <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> >> To: "Mxyzptlk" <xxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Cc: "Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx>; "...IDM >list" >> <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; "day-twa" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 12:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke >> >> >> > I saw dj spooky play a local bar about 3 years ago. and -big surprise- >it >> > pretty much sucked. he had three tables set up, and on the main two he >was >> > train-wrecking slowed down jungle tracks (45's playing on 33), and on >the >> > third table was just white noise and sfx records that he'd leave playing >> > for a while and occasionaly tinker with them. >> > >> > i know his angle is from the "conceptual art" side- but i dont really >get >> > why he does shows that are hyped as dj shows. i've seen him reviewed in >> > big name art magazines for shows in some pretty respectable new york >> > galleries- but in this setting it is more art installation type stuff- >> > some of it looks like it may actually have some interesting acoustic >> > soundscape stuff going on. but for the sake of performing music venues- >i >> > think he needs to drop the "dj" and just be called spooky, or maybe >> > sloppy.. >> > >> > -p >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >