(idm) sampling thoughts

From r. kidwell
Sent Fri, Jun 18th 1999, 16:50

a couple people have recently posted that they're
not down with sampling/samplers, and i know this 
debate has been beaten death in every corner of the
civilized world, (has anyone seen the threads on the
Akai list about this?  christ almighty!) but i was
looking for some clarification here...
is this an across-the-board condemnation of the use
of a sampler?  i mean, that's what it sounds like 
when someone says "no sampling allowed."  now i can
understand (although i dont necessarily agree) when 
people say 'I think it's bullshit when a sample is
used instead of the artist actually programming a 
real live synth' or 'I think it's bullshit when a 
beat is ripped directly out of a song, sampled, and
used in a track straight-up, unmodified' and yeah,
these are uncreative uses of a sampler, but is it 
against whatever sampling ethics are at work here
when i take a sample of a kick drum, work it over
in sound forge for an hour, repeat with a snare,
hihat, etc, and load them all into my sampler, and
sequence my own beat with these samples?  or even
stickier, if i take someone elses drum beat, recycle
it, extract individual hits, fuck wtith them in 
sound forge, dsps filters etc, then load this kit
into my sampler to make new beats with? eh? is there
beef with this application of the sampler?  

sorry if this is convoluted, overdone, dead horse,
etc. 


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