From Mat Ranson Sent Fri, Jun 30th 2006, 23:46
From Mat Ranson Sent Fri, Jun 30th 2006, 23:46
I seriously don't mean to be rude, but I don't understand what you wrote there... Mat On 30 Jun 2006, at 23:35, Exegene wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Boris Klompus wrote: > *snip* >> governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately >> revolutionary in >> the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much >> different >> than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to >> experimental music of > *snip* > > Indeed. > > There are some wrong actions occuring. There are also some objects > that seem to be connected with those actions. Insofar as those > wrongs can be said to be sourced in those objects, representative > of those object-wrong connections may be all that which results in > a population's predispositions, or targets of acquisition. A > population's actions will often result in a wrong-connected > object's increase in currency, this result fostered through what > are wrong actions. > > Microsound potentially obstructs some mechanisms of > predispositioning a population by allowing it to have positive > voice and shut ears in what would otherwise be uncritical > consumption. This is not unique to microsound of course, the same > being found in any case where there is a local popular art, or in > the case of a sufficiently isolated community, simply a close knit. > Microsound does offer the opportunity to question, even question > the existence of, those implacable traditions and relations > litterin everywhere, but it's hard, really hard, to om mani padme > hum one's way into defying gravity, especially when finally it's > the weekend and I can relax from the work week, tonight maybe I'll > boil potatoes, and.... > > At least, anyone listening to or making microsound is someone not > for that time buying flavor of the moment or selling it to friends. > > -- > Dear Patron Saint, > your lips are lopsided > www.devo.com/exegene > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 30 22:36:19 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39313-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13722 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:36:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 13711 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:36:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:35:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Exegene <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at devo.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Boris Klompus wrote: *snip* > governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately revolutionary in > the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much different > than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to experimental music of *snip* Indeed. There are some wrong actions occuring. There are also some objects that seem to be connected with those actions. Insofar as those wrongs can be said to be sourced in those objects, representative of those object-wrong connections may be all that which results in a population's predispositions, or targets of acquisition. A population's actions will often result in a wrong-connected object's increase in currency, this result fostered through what are wrong actions. Microsound potentially obstructs some mechanisms of predispositioning a population by allowing it to have positive voice and shut ears in what would otherwise be uncritical consumption. This is not unique to microsound of course, the same being found in any case where there is a local popular art, or in the case of a sufficiently isolated community, simply a close knit. Microsound does offer the opportunity to question, even question the existence of, those implacable traditions and relations litterin everywhere, but it's hard, really hard, to om mani padme hum one's way into defying gravity, especially when finally it's the weekend and I can relax from the work week, tonight maybe I'll boil potatoes, and.... At least, anyone listening to or making microsound is someone not for that time buying flavor of the moment or selling it to friends. -- Dear Patron Saint, your lips are lopsided www.devo.com/exegene --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 30 13:56:21 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39312-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18046 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:56:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 18034 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:56:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:56:03 -0500 From: Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LXXstzhWDGXk9z+wwYdrAeVP+QihVHVPijZzP1pySgmw48MsA/kIYNNXJb5JoyVBA3b81BTY5G7hLwuDMiD1wkfcMcsVAST0N5dkCNuiuFccs1C6NcKYkeqFIBw8EyvqfybzgK6brTvSPnQ8dlkY/Hnvyt0hJ+nUcH5pSbPmt5g= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I agree with much of what has been said, particularly by Mat, Greg, and to an extent, Jon. Perhaps we've covered the revolutionary aspects implicit in the form, and I do believe that there is merit in that, albeit severely limited in horizontal scope once you step out of the box. So let's consider craft again: many of the pioneering electronic artists of the 1960s and 1970s (from what I understand) were very much into fashioning their own electronic equipment for their sound and music pieces. I see a direct correlation between their activities and those working with Pd (a considerably broader base). Insofar as new communities proliferate around open ideals and together manage the tangles that come along with them, this is political. This extends not only to the more tangible manifestations of alternative processes and means of information flow, but also to the idea of taking near-complete control and responsibility for your own processes and creations, something microsound can lend itself to quite well in my opinion. But the struggle, if one wishes to carry it a step further and engage with those who are not in the "niche", is to not only become excellent craftspeople but to simultaneously become excellent communicators. This is what I see as the vague, hazy tension between craft and art. Insofar as work is able, beyond fashion and commodification (these ought to be resisted because they are the death of ideas) to engage a segment of the population beyond the "niche", I feel quite good about what is happening on that front. Kevin On 6/30/06, PBJ B-J <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Its good to see how little consensus there is on this mailing list; those > 100% personnel opinions are a joy to behold! > > In response to the naysayers...my original question was a genuine one in the > sense that, as a relative new member, I was curious to what extent people > thought of their work having such an impact. My own feeling is that social > change, say, is probably more enabled through the technology of microsound > than the art. In other words, the global, collaborative approach to music > making found here is a symptom of possibilities enabled by current > communication technology. And that is allowing new social patterns and > groupings to evolve. (I prefer evolution to revolution too). > > PBJ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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Fri Jun 30 12:03:09 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39311-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91824 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:03:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 91814 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:03:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:02:56 +0100 From: PBJ B-J <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2006 12:03:01.0071 (UTC) FILETIME=[22665DF0:01C69C3D] Its good to see how little consensus there is on this mailing list; those 100% personnel opinions are a joy to behold! In response to the naysayers...my original question was a genuine one in the sense that, as a relative new member, I was curious to what extent people thought of their work having such an impact. My own feeling is that social change, say, is probably more enabled through the technology of microsound than the art. In other words, the global, collaborative approach to music making found here is a symptom of possibilities enabled by current communication technology. And that is allowing new social patterns and groupings to evolve. (I prefer evolution to revolution too). PBJ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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Fri Jun 30 11:17:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39310-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82494 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:16:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 82480 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:16:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:16:48 +0200 From: rinus van alebeek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sUL9t3QsJJxufAxVdel44Q)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PKodoehQYvb5eQ8pGJ2LvJXClbxNoAgQXeZLuraeXtlpe9NwDklUmuJja6BBZxv7wXnYp5WH5Gu649D7b2lpnf4GP1ipF5Oi8C9RE95FkhiM13LiwGVzYZBwstEY2TCajLpvQgdQtnr2fCzNVe2CoWYBBcMPYMoAqqWbVKkfXd4= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_sUL9t3QsJJxufAxVdel44Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I release on cassette and on cdr. the cassettes are 2x 20 minutes,and that's just enough. the cdr release i try to restrict to 35 minutes at the most. but a cdr is a cdr right? so you can put lots of extra's short video, pictures and text and even some software, if you like. greetings, rinus -- activities, releases, downloads http://emc.yserv.com/103 The no-budget Foundation http://no-bf.blogspot.com/ --Boundary_(ID_sUL9t3QsJJxufAxVdel44Q)-- From ???@??? Fri Jun 30 09:23:13 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39309-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58214 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:23:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 58202 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:23:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:22:49 +0100 From: Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Abuse: Please report all spam/abuse matters to xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mcr-smtp-002.bulldogdsl.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Level: I would still have to disagree. The proliferation of (niche) knowledge is one of the great tools of the internet. And sociologically you and I are a part of the Microsound society because of this very list. However, if you mean that the heavy technological approach is the cause of socio/political implications of Microsound music, then we may as well include everything else which involves computers and Western World technologies, relatively speaking. In any case we're back to the beginning: there are very few socio/ political implications of Microsound music, and those that exist bear no meaning on the music itself to have a measurable effect. And yes it could be considered avant garde. Whatever the current definition of that might be. Mat On 30 Jun 2006, at 00:43, Jon wrote: > Mat: Fair point -- and no book quoted! -- but it's less about the > equipment (that was a lesser point) and more about the section of > society who are given to developing knowledge and understanding of > things like Microsound -- in other words, I think it's privileged > knowledge, and that's reflected by the fact that it's a) a heavily > technological approach and b) avant garde. > > >>> >>> Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with >>> it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap >>> second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the >>> budget >>> of most 'revolutionaries'. >>> >>> Mat > > ... ... ... ... ... ... ... > dizzydonor.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 30 03:27:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39308-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65518 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:27:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 65508 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:27:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:18:32 -0700 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] The Science of Audio Based Brainwave Entrainment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0611040bc0ca48260484@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >http://web-us.com/thescience.htm Is this why parents were worried about their kids 'automatically' tempted to have sex when exposed to dance music with a beat faster than the normal heart rate? ;-} John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 30 02:01:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39307-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33056 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:00:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 33046 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:00:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:00:49 -0400 From: aleks vasic <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] The Science of Audio Based Brainwave Entrainment In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://web-us.com/thescience.htm Yeah buddy! aLEKs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 30 01:44:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39306-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26578 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:44:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 26566 invoked from network); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:44:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:44:46 -0500 From: "Mark R." <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_E7ABOnVwdcreGwsj1MjBqA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EzR+yj4orIthDBZzKx0Q4S7ASu7Pe8T9bCdaXbdM8E/QNIrjSVxIJyaEa5F9fcZNi1/PtD8rC/Dgp62cwZ4bOdvtJJAG6o3ZDnqsq/XeC4jH+t53V9a+t1lSPeR3kmVnB2FesG7Z2zy/bmTK8Ugbk/lV/ISelHC8vJh6Wlaopco= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_E7ABOnVwdcreGwsj1MjBqA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>the blues aren't common sensical -- there is weird sexuality and awkward love and big worry in them, all the time. point taken, although one might say that it is common sense to know that 'we are all crazy or we wouldn't be here'... song is the escape... the caged bird sings a more beautiful song. best, mark On 6/29/06, tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > > >>a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more > >>and more complicated and out of balance. > > the blues aren't common sensical -- there is weird sexuality and awkward > love and big worry in them, all the time. > > in fact, no escape. maybe that is the key. no humanism to the rescue. > just pathos, time, rhythm, body and soul. > sometimes joy -- chicago blues particularly in relation to movement (the > one area which was truly a freedom > for black people post-slavery was the ability to get on a train and go)... > > so a kind of specific > expressivity is opened in the horizon of the sound... > > which revolved around a pretty consistent structure > of sound... always recognizable. a form that was like a horizon that the > blues player, blues man could work off/work within > > and formally was *not* especially tied to the Great path of Progress in > the way that the > history of jazz was/is or modern music, etc. etc.(i.e. it would be unusual > to speak of > cutting edge or avant garde blues). > > this *non-belief* or indifference to the supposed nearly Categorical > Imperative of (formal, at least!) Progress (the big ModernProgress story we > have been socialized to believe in grade school, etc. -> social darwnism, > social evolution, technology, etc. etc.) > is to some extent a precursor to the kind of glitch/dis-joints that > frequent aesthetics of failure... > > but no matter...(or.. ghosts in the machine...perhaps blues is one of the > ghosts in microsounds machine?) > anyhow... > -a > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > -- Mark Ragsdale www.moonbridges.com --Boundary_(ID_E7ABOnVwdcreGwsj1MjBqA)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 23:43:45 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39305-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82270 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:43:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 82258 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:43:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:43:26 +1000 From: Jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mat: Fair point -- and no book quoted! -- but it's less about the equipment (that was a lesser point) and more about the section of society who are given to developing knowledge and understanding of things like Microsound -- in other words, I think it's privileged knowledge, and that's reflected by the fact that it's a) a heavily technological approach and b) avant garde. >> >> Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with >> it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap >> second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the budget >> of most 'revolutionaries'. >> >> Mat .... ... ... ... ... ... ... dizzydonor.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 21:55:54 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39303-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31139 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:55:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 31122 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:55:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:55:16 -0500 (CDT) From: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-UOS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UOS-MailScanner-From: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5-1 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i agree with boris- it is that reformation of the fundamental structures or the formal reorganization of the medium in that our perceptions are changed- then we can "see" differently- we aren't aware of these things until we have been shown that they exist and develop a subsequent vocabulary to recognize them - that is one thing that art can do for us and how art becomes socially/politically important- the difficult part is not to get someone to recognize new structures but to make them meaningful and relevant enough that carry over from performance/ exhibition to real life > I was in a politics of music class last semester, and at the end everyone > in > the class had to present a politically charged piece of music (or artist). > Instead of picking a piece of politically charged music a la Bob Dylan, or > something, I chose microsound. I don't believe that it has a political standing or charge in traditional ways, in that it speaks out about governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately revolutionary > in > the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much different > than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to experimental music > of > the mid 1900s, which was also revolutionary, and therefore political. I think any time conventions are broken, and risks are taken, making the music experimental, it can be, and is revolutionary. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 21:58:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39304-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34460 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:58:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 34384 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:58:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:51:56 -0700 (PDT) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MiytADF1sXt/jDeCGUrsJQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lLE5409v+lAILr1XhwQPGUHHsXeU+9e/1v6xq/zbD+w2AXGaWNjXwSHoVCYkTMsf7E/Vk4Ngmrckv501hwjH4pwvpiCZCbW8iy1gR4s+SsgZYUaUiYoKmcwXqLvSB4t+QfgrfpgaNuEHOjb7CbQF9vLt0eAD1Q0SoFUd7+xMtRU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_MiytADF1sXt/jDeCGUrsJQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more >>and more complicated and out of balance. the blues aren't common sensical -- there is weird sexuality and awkward love and big worry in them, all the time. in fact, no escape. maybe that is the key. no humanism to the rescue. just pathos, time, rhythm, body and soul. sometimes joy -- chicago blues particularly in relation to movement (the one area which was truly a freedom for black people post-slavery was the ability to get on a train and go)... so a kind of specific expressivity is opened in the horizon of the sound... which revolved around a pretty consistent structure of sound... always recognizable. a form that was like a horizon that the blues player, blues man could work off/work within and formally was *not* especially tied to the Great path of Progress in the way that the history of jazz was/is or modern music, etc. etc.(i.e. it would be unusual to speak of cutting edge or avant garde blues). this *non-belief* or indifference to the supposed nearly Categorical Imperative of (formal, at least!) Progress (the big ModernProgress story we have been socialized to believe in grade school, etc. -> social darwnism, social evolution, technology, etc. etc.) is to some extent a precursor to the kind of glitch/dis-joints that frequent aesthetics of failure... but no matter...(or.. ghosts in the machine...perhaps blues is one of the ghosts in microsounds machine?) anyhow... -a --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --Boundary_(ID_MiytADF1sXt/jDeCGUrsJQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 19:33:18 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39302-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55026 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:33:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 55014 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:33:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:33:02 -0400 From: Boris Klompus <xxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_scGGDeAmOEmcLo3v/ysXvw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MHqPmLJOJ9Hceja3T8hbObnkZ9lfsHVHb4n7VzBYB3eesqxwOUsuEqjC9UkzDV9TZ3ksUQ17UV+KjEr2K3n00gcPJI+EHYYbgpLHfb6N/EekYf937zB12r6GSaR3JQPnCExP7JCoDHsSTsdqi5YO8GLKQxumroCGjTKg/n9rHEY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_scGGDeAmOEmcLo3v/ysXvw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was in a politics of music class last semester, and at the end everyone in the class had to present a politically charged piece of music (or artist). Instead of picking a piece of politically charged music a la Bob Dylan, or something, I chose microsound. I don't believe that it has a political standing or charge in traditional ways, in that it speaks out about governments, or wrongs done to people, but it is definately revolutionary in the way music is made and thought of/about. Its structure is much different than that of popular music now, and is a lot closer to experimental music of the mid 1900s, which was also revolutionary, and therefore political. I think any time conventions are broken, and risks are taken, making the music experimental, it can be, and is revolutionary. --Boundary_(ID_scGGDeAmOEmcLo3v/ysXvw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 17:14:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39301-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82382 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:14:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 82372 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:14:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:14:35 -0400 From: Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SS+KcIHy2syJEzi7vhuavw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bdVJad1rdk0ZteMHgd57nXkUAfUKEgHux85xggTxxL99fmGZnNYuHzfuDbskm+owGUjHDeopQBDXFe5CNf6v2WWZu8fBzINIFqM57W8BxG6r0VM2/+11Xblmcz6WNn8eiPWoRCCR6EtkbA+r6kG6+AD5tGlStGKs6NaCY3pSf6w= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_SS+KcIHy2syJEzi7vhuavw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I wonder about peoples experiences with microsound in their own lives? Does everyone feel that the descisions/directions/perspectives you have taken have been influenced by your interaction as a listener or as an artists? How so? Means of production and distribution are an important part of the discourse on art but they are far from the only socio-political aspects of creation. -mike www.michaelsamos.com On 6/29/06, Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with > it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap > second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the budget > of most 'revolutionaries'. > > Mat > > > > On 29 Jun 2006, at 14:21, Jon wrote: > > > Dear PBJ, > > > > No -- sorry -- but I have no faith that Microsound has any profound > > social/political implications implicit within the form. To an > > extent I'd say this is true of all modern music styles. Especially > > nowadays, no group (or set of performative/creative/consumptive > > practises) has any real ideological claim over a style of art. > > > > I will also say, anticipating (perhaps wrongly - if so, excuse me) > > that you mean Microsound has a progressive social/political agenda, > > that you see much more Microsound being made by people with a > > privileged background (bourgeois artistic sensibilities), and the > > form is not unkind to latté-sipping beatniks... very few of whom > > could be seen as 'revolutionaries'. The truth is that artistic > > radicals are most often aesthetes and while they may dabble in > > political conscience, it's not the weight behind their art - > > especially the wordless, insular art of Microsound, which is > > predominantly composed on late-model laptop/desktop computers by > > people who can afford them (ie. not factory workers). As far as I > > know it's mostly consumed through boutique retail and online outlets. > > > > Don't get me wrong - I really like it - but I have certainly grown > > wary of artists and fans who attach an excess of political meaning > > to artworks which have really little to do with any of it. And of > > course, 100% personal opinion. > > > > > > $0.02 ... > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Dear m'sounders > >> > >> Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if > >> anyone thought there was an explicit or even implicit > >> sociopolitical aspect of microsound/digital music. For example, > >> the way that lots of experimental music in the 60's was interested > >> in non-hierarchical social and political structures which was > >> reflected in the way that music was composed, created and consumed. > >> > >> Discuss! > >> > >> PBJ > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... ... > > dizzydonor.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > Audio_SixSixSix > Music Composition & Sound Design > ……………………………………………… > m +44 (0)7970 076525 > w http://www.audiosixsixsix.com > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_SS+KcIHy2syJEzi7vhuavw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 15:16:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39300-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38097 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:15:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 38087 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:15:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: info <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Message to list Admin about Blogger errors In-reply-to: <001d01c69b7f$23381e30$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-RocketYMMF: adrian_dimond X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It doesn't matter wether or not you have a blogger account.. somebody on this list does and anytime a post is mailed to the list a copy of it is mailed to blogger, is then rejected and an error is then sent to the person who mailed it. --- eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeff gburek" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: [microsound] Message to list Admin about Blogger errors > > > > that's weird. i have nothing to do with blogger > > accounts! > > > > me neither. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 14:55:29 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39299-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29292 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:55:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 29281 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:55:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:54:52 +0100 From: Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mVi5vaCH81Htxz0X9xwvnQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Abuse: Please report all spam/abuse matters to xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mcr-smtp-001.bulldogdsl.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Level: --Boundary_(ID_mVi5vaCH81Htxz0X9xwvnQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Not sure which books you paraphrased that from, though I agree with it, but if you used your own reasoning you'd have noted that a cheap second hand PC and a free copy of Pure data is well within the budget of most 'revolutionaries'. Mat On 29 Jun 2006, at 14:21, Jon wrote: > Dear PBJ, > > No -- sorry -- but I have no faith that Microsound has any profound > social/political implications implicit within the form. To an > extent I'd say this is true of all modern music styles. Especially > nowadays, no group (or set of performative/creative/consumptive > practises) has any real ideological claim over a style of art. > > I will also say, anticipating (perhaps wrongly - if so, excuse me) > that you mean Microsound has a progressive social/political agenda, > that you see much more Microsound being made by people with a > privileged background (bourgeois artistic sensibilities), and the > form is not unkind to latté-sipping beatniks... very few of whom > could be seen as 'revolutionaries'. The truth is that artistic > radicals are most often aesthetes and while they may dabble in > political conscience, it's not the weight behind their art - > especially the wordless, insular art of Microsound, which is > predominantly composed on late-model laptop/desktop computers by > people who can afford them (ie. not factory workers). As far as I > know it's mostly consumed through boutique retail and online outlets. > > Don't get me wrong - I really like it - but I have certainly grown > wary of artists and fans who attach an excess of political meaning > to artworks which have really little to do with any of it. And of > course, 100% personal opinion. > > > $0.02 ... > Jon > > > > > > > >> Dear m'sounders >> >> Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if >> anyone thought there was an explicit or even implicit >> sociopolitical aspect of microsound/digital music. For example, >> the way that lots of experimental music in the 60's was interested >> in non-hierarchical social and political structures which was >> reflected in the way that music was composed, created and consumed. >> >> Discuss! >> >> PBJ > > ... ... ... ... ... ... ... > dizzydonor.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > Audio_SixSixSix Music Composition & Sound Design ……………………………………………… m +44 (0)7970 076525 w http://www.audiosixsixsix.com --Boundary_(ID_mVi5vaCH81Htxz0X9xwvnQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 13:48:01 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39298-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4101 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:47:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 4090 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:47:50 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:47:37 -0500 (CDT) From: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <007401c69b79$c7f702c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-UOS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UOS-MailScanner-From: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <007401c69b79$c7f702c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5-1 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx here are some texts that address this topic: Jacques Attali's Noise: The Political Economy of Music (1985) addresses this topic directly- it challenges us to consider the social impact of our work and discusses the possibility for significant social change through music and the conditions that could give rise to such cultural tropes I also suggest Guy DeBord's Society of the Spectacle and other Situationist works (from the late 60's ) about how information and expression are trafficked in the broader culture and describes some of the pitfalls that can threaten the integrity of art in a consumer culture http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/debord/ http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Obituary/debord.html other noteworthy texts to consider for this topic in a broader context are Umberto Eco's "Travels in Hyperreality" and "Kant and the Platypus" "Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape it." Bertolt Brecht (1898-1956), greg pond http://da73.com/ > I believe that art promotes social/political change through the changing of > individual sensibilities. > > Therefore the new musical aesthehic that microsound/digital music proposes > will definitly determine social change. How? When? That´s ask to much of a > simple guy like me, that works to put sounds and words together. > > Be patient. In twenty or thirty years the change will be obvious. > > Beni. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul B-J" <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> > To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:39 AM > Subject: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? > > >> Dear m'sounders >> Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if anyone thought there was an explicit or even implicit sociopolitical aspect of microsound/digital music. For example, the way that lots of experimental >> music in the 60's was interested in non-hierarchical social and political >> structures which was reflected in the way that music was composed, created >> and consumed. >> Discuss! >> PBJ >> _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT Messenger has arrived. 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Thu Jun 29 13:21:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39296-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94435 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:21:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 94425 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:21:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:21:06 +1000 From: Jon <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear PBJ, No -- sorry -- but I have no faith that Microsound has any profound social/political implications implicit within the form. To an extent I'd say this is true of all modern music styles. Especially nowadays, no group (or set of performative/creative/consumptive practises) has any real ideological claim over a style of art. I will also say, anticipating (perhaps wrongly - if so, excuse me) that you mean Microsound has a progressive social/political agenda, that you see much more Microsound being made by people with a privileged background (bourgeois artistic sensibilities), and the form is not unkind to latté-sipping beatniks... very few of whom could be seen as 'revolutionaries'. The truth is that artistic radicals are most often aesthetes and while they may dabble in political conscience, it's not the weight behind their art - especially the wordless, insular art of Microsound, which is predominantly composed on late-model laptop/desktop computers by people who can afford them (ie. not factory workers). As far as I know it's mostly consumed through boutique retail and online outlets. Don't get me wrong - I really like it - but I have certainly grown wary of artists and fans who attach an excess of political meaning to artworks which have really little to do with any of it. And of course, 100% personal opinion. $0.02 ... Jon > Dear m'sounders > > Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if anyone > thought there was an explicit or even implicit sociopolitical > aspect of microsound/digital music. For example, the way that lots > of experimental music in the 60's was interested in non- > hierarchical social and political structures which was reflected in > the way that music was composed, created and consumed. > > Discuss! > > PBJ .... ... ... ... ... ... ... dizzydonor.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 13:10:00 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39295-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90774 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:09:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 90762 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:09:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+LpdiZ7g/2Q/2lyllcKkzw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1WtdJ0BrjhxTn8a/MU01B95I3fAd0h/HF4FYfDI4IRgBKy3wwDdNJ2YrIQVRnOo1it43TcIe44Baha+VlW1prMtuR92n962UN8/8g0WKFw0xBNacs9sG83k8ud1xViANuJV7riXu7zzOw5rVhEkLoxSZRa1DQW3HgezxsvnBkg0= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_+LpdiZ7g/2Q/2lyllcKkzw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How long should a 'digital' album be? As long as it takes to get your ideas across. Personally, I'd rather listen to a short lp with a few really good ideas, than a 70min cd or mp3 lps that are composed of a lot of filler. A really good compilation goes a long way for me these days. Very few artists have gone past the 2hr mark with much success, which doesnt mean it shouldnt be done. The 'digital' format, or more to the point, the 'digital' distribution network frees up time constraints, but might put more of a demand on the artist to produce something worth listening to. Peter www.peterlasell.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [snip] Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> From: "Michael Samos" <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be Message-ID: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> I listen to the Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori disc that came out a few months ago (somewhere in the mid 30min range if I remember right) and I am left wanting more. I like feeling that desire. -mike www.michaelsamos.com [/snip] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --Boundary_(ID_+LpdiZ7g/2Q/2lyllcKkzw)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 13:08:56 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39294-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89634 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:08:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 89622 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:08:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:08:35 +0200 From: franz <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Message to list Admin about Blogger errors In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i've got the same weird problem, that's why i've posted the same thing for two time thinking about an error (sorry 'bout this). jeff gburek ha scritto: > that's weird. i have nothing to do with blogger > accounts! > > --- info <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > >> I just received a response from blogger.com about >> the error messages >> that people have been receiving when posting to the >> list. >> >> Currently blogger is not taking any responsibilty >> for the errors >> however they suggest that the list owner remove >> users with blogger >> accounts IE if they have a subscription to the list >> using a blogger.com >> email address. >> >> Apparently you can subscribe a blogger email account >> to have posts from >> this list appear automatically in a blog but there >> is some sor tof a >> problem that generates the errors. Unless the owner >> of the blogger >> account posts themselves they will never know that >> it is generating >> errors. >> >> Thanks >> >> Adrian >> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Thu Jun 29 12:44:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39293-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82702 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:44:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 82692 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:44:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:44:35 -0300 From: Beni Borja - Psicotronica <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007401c69b79$c7f702c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0621-3, 24/05/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I believe that art promotes social/political change through the changing of individual sensibilities. Therefore the new musical aesthehic that microsound/digital music proposes will definitly determine social change. How? When? That´s ask to much of a simple guy like me, that works to put sounds and words together. Be patient. In twenty or thirty years the change will be obvious. Beni. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul B-J" <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:39 AM Subject: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? > Dear m'sounders > > Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if anyone > thought there was an explicit or even implicit sociopolitical aspect of > microsound/digital music. For example, the way that lots of experimental > music in the 60's was interested in non-hierarchical social and political > structures which was reflected in the way that music was composed, created > and consumed. > > Discuss! > > PBJ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveT Messenger has arrived. 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Thu Jun 29 12:19:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39292-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73632 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:19:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 73622 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:19:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:12:59 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Message to list Admin about Blogger errors In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YuO1XyrIlDWitZ5kf5LeN3huzlwWF1MfEV8oW6P0mVqQ+MB1AC+t4IeQVIFcpdE4z9G0d/cMCB4UUpZZuSuR9rtV5/P9adHNaFhnCQyFh7JCsftuJlCoTxps5Dp9eBX2Tb6eRlyXONgD5qvInaZ9u+OZfBgELVq5l8dTFHqCxhY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that's weird. i have nothing to do with blogger accounts! --- info <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I just received a response from blogger.com about > the error messages > that people have been receiving when posting to the > list. > > Currently blogger is not taking any responsibilty > for the errors > however they suggest that the list owner remove > users with blogger > accounts IE if they have a subscription to the list > using a blogger.com > email address. > > Apparently you can subscribe a blogger email account > to have posts from > this list appear automatically in a blog but there > is some sor tof a > problem that generates the errors. Unless the owner > of the blogger > account posts themselves they will never know that > it is generating > errors. > > Thanks > > Adrian > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 09:40:06 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39291-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31780 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:40:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 31769 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:40:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:39:54 +0100 From: Paul B-J <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Socio/political implications of microsound music? X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2006 09:39:56.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB3B8C60:01C69B5F] Dear m'sounders Sorry if that sounds like an essay title. I was wondering if anyone thought there was an explicit or even implicit sociopolitical aspect of microsound/digital music. For example, the way that lots of experimental music in the 60's was interested in non-hierarchical social and political structures which was reflected in the way that music was composed, created and consumed. Discuss! PBJ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 08:56:25 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39290-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7329 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:56:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 7318 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:56:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:56:07 +0200 From: franz <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Recent Music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.myspace.com/franzwork http://franz.impattosonoro.it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 08:46:35 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39289-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4244 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:46:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 4233 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:46:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:46:07 +0200 From: franz <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Recent Music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.myspace.com/franzwork http://franz.impattosonoro.it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 07:19:33 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39288-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78346 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:19:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 78327 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:19:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:19:22 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C939whyUwuYHLD34N2AgPb62WERKTd9ChJcG2nxwXRzfGhvvWwI5hVwWIdKE89SHE95oDFYe3uo0DBzqgxto4zpEq1ptpZpFcTfkM7PaU5gzTxbl3qiVmlLj4Pxi8m5+ZkMPpSdHWc9nAB64S2JK2BXxAmAO0Hofm4YURcpmeAA= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > i have my best listening experiences on headphones > when i'm out walking. video maker friend of mine described listening to an alva noto cd riding bike through berlin and how the music blended so well with the outside sounds. some ideas: the music that interests me most is combinatoric in this way. is romantic music is the music that seeks to be separate from the world or closing it out? but who would fault us for making otherwordly sound? (if only that were possible...) j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 06:35:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39287-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64026 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:35:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 64015 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:35:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:35:46 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Message to list Admin about Blogger errors In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yKBRD+Vh8eU/rQowFjYrAQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rciVTbDfm/b5enAwp/HNT+P/SLZTnJr03BaR9QqHMvtoRYm5Oz/Hz1FLCw18B8UiVC/lwepntIgLWTDmuLe3aGsp1UWVcXA7ApRGHktqeDE/HDhZi7o7x8Cg31/WYwZ7Wlcy/k/qxBVWjmDgvumQICO6+x8a7W4MKDxEegEvpc0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_yKBRD+Vh8eU/rQowFjYrAQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ta, i was starting to get crazy with them... On 6/28/06, info <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I just received a response from blogger.com about the error messages > that people have been receiving when posting to the list. > > Currently blogger is not taking any responsibilty for the errors > however they suggest that the list owner remove users with blogger > accounts IE if they have a subscription to the list using a blogger.com > email address. > > Apparently you can subscribe a blogger email account to have posts from > this list appear automatically in a blog but there is some sor tof a > problem that generates the errors. Unless the owner of the blogger > account posts themselves they will never know that it is generating > errors. > > Thanks > > Adrian > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_yKBRD+Vh8eU/rQowFjYrAQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 06:33:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39286-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62608 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:33:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 62598 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:33:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:33:37 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <C0C8F535.237E8%xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kXSIRyrTIet+Fu87N//kbQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fRqGTKeTBVgJF5rmF7c/uVFyk1wblrhZUTvuRwYWZU7i+thMDkCI87dlYGes9LIAQVS6NlHTKSuNPWpbjAgfHlC9GKLc9573OGGngL2rXp+96QtJHDPQONMzdODt925dpPX3poqLmYLZPaZC6FDi7JZZ6+S/DU0ut2cRMQA63Vg= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> <C0C8F535.237E8%xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_kXSIRyrTIet+Fu87N//kbQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rui-do wrote: "Romantic feelings is to dream about the sound of clean air." nice one; and this opens another classic topic: "Silence is violent." i think i'm going to start crying. ;) On 6/29/06, rui-do <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > But sometimes distractions play an important role. > And not only distractions, but all that is around and interpheres , all > intrusive sounds from urban landscapes and modern architecture can be no > longer detached from our sense of listening and understanding sound. > Take a look at the recent cd from eric la casa on Sirr called "air.ratio" > where he investigates almost scientifically the air noises produced in > public buildings. I am very sensitive to ventilation systems but most > people > lack awareness on this. > > Romantic feelings is to dream about the sound of clean air. > > > > > i have my best listening experiences on headphones when i'm out walking. > > there's nothing else to distract me. that's one of the main reasons i > walk > > to walk at the moment. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_kXSIRyrTIet+Fu87N//kbQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 04:37:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39285-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25387 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:37:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 25377 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:37:44 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:58:48 -0700 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005d01c69b30$6d2d5220$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you're right i have mixed my states subtract joe sabella as i know he moved close to mr deane to play music with him. jeph is in arizona however. he moved there from seattle. robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff gburek" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? >i am reasonably certain j.a. deanne lives in santa fe, > new mexico. so the population of arizona has been cut > by a fifth so far. i thought jeph moved to > seattle...(that was SCG rather)? but that's okay: the > best thing about the southwest is the wide open > space... > > --- roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> far as i know only 5 people live in arizona >> jeph jarmen >> joe sabella >> j a deane >> ed hardy >> mike quinn >> >> robert >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Neil Wiernik" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> >> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:06 AM >> Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? >> >> >> > >> > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any >> contacts for people >> > involved with the arizona electronic music >> community? >> > thanks in advance >> > neil.. >> > >> > ============================ >> > www.phoniq.net >> > releases available on: >> > www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> > publication: >> > www.vagueterrain.net >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Thu Jun 29 02:10:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39284-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81239 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:10:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 81227 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:10:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:10:45 +0100 From: rui-do <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0C8F535.237E8%xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx But sometimes distractions play an important role. And not only distractions, but all that is around and interpheres , all intrusive sounds from urban landscapes and modern architecture can be no longer detached from our sense of listening and understanding sound. Take a look at the recent cd from eric la casa on Sirr called "air.ratio" where he investigates almost scientifically the air noises produced in public buildings. I am very sensitive to ventilation systems but most people lack awareness on this. Romantic feelings is to dream about the sound of clean air. > > i have my best listening experiences on headphones when i'm out walking. > there's nothing else to distract me. that's one of the main reasons i walk > to walk at the moment. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 01:47:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39283-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73543 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:47:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 73528 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:47:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:46:33 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <008301c699d8$b8b76450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx cHristian negre i walczak wrote: > we live on a hurry, at least i do. even trying to be conscient about it, i > do. things happen so quick. i have my best listening experiences on headphones when i'm out walking. there's nothing else to distract me. that's one of the main reasons i walk to walk at the moment. -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 01:43:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39282-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71559 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:42:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 71548 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:42:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:42:44 -0400 From: Thaniel Lee <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Recent Music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nv5en4FYziWxuuOz0AI3EhHASq1cXLJ+HgCA7cQDDKGIcX0m+ueBpATpI8XAm8DzDGVhU6lo0Fr7Tn3/toSayNygrrXEHwaQyNAvvfnARXCcBxc1QVU/r6kUYC/VD89+GtIHy2eBvzXdUsAiXgO3LJyppgAfUD/8xDsaccLPSyI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.myspace.com/bridlewire On 6/28/06, Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Renato Fabbri wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for recent electronic sonic-art, electroacoutic music. > > > > Have anyone some uploaded music on the web or links of interesting things? > > http://www.frey.co.nz/?p=107 > > -- > f r e y > live music with computers > http://www.frey.co.nz > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://thanielarts.blogspot.com/ http://blog.myspace.com/bridlewire --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 29 01:36:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39281-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68742 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:36:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 68729 invoked from network); Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:36:31 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:35:54 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Recent Music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Renato Fabbri wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for recent electronic sonic-art, electroacoutic music. > > Have anyone some uploaded music on the web or links of interesting things? http://www.frey.co.nz/?p=107 -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 16:55:12 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39280-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39728 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:55:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 39718 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:55:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: info <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Message to list Admin about Blogger errors To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-RocketYMMF: adrian_dimond X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I just received a response from blogger.com about the error messages that people have been receiving when posting to the list. Currently blogger is not taking any responsibilty for the errors however they suggest that the list owner remove users with blogger accounts IE if they have a subscription to the list using a blogger.com email address. Apparently you can subscribe a blogger email account to have posts from this list appear automatically in a blog but there is some sor tof a problem that generates the errors. Unless the owner of the blogger account posts themselves they will never know that it is generating errors. Thanks Adrian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 10:23:31 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39279-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71315 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:23:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 71305 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:23:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? In-reply-to: <007e01c69a1c$e72521d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IlqnLbMgdnooSRLlI+3ePjp4kb9aVXClHthDUSBR5DoGOlTA/W8EHgPTwjXREU9h5A9/0RSow/sPat+Uol5NY4Xh1R1isqO5iLOKcuBihO9kwjDBDFCe8OMETKc/WwNdrd7dmqlCDf6kJB4nvwSSz4lAdZzlUWLO8aZzOKXUgYQ= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i am reasonably certain j.a. deanne lives in santa fe, new mexico. so the population of arizona has been cut by a fifth so far. i thought jeph moved to seattle...(that was SCG rather)? but that's okay: the best thing about the southwest is the wide open space... --- roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > far as i know only 5 people live in arizona > jeph jarmen > joe sabella > j a deane > ed hardy > mike quinn > > robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Wiernik" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:06 AM > Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? > > > > > > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any > contacts for people > > involved with the arizona electronic music > community? > > thanks in advance > > neil.. > > > > ============================ > > www.phoniq.net > > releases available on: > > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > > publication: > > www.vagueterrain.net > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 09:19:35 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39278-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45818 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:19:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 45805 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:19:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:19:19 +0100 From: Paul B-J <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2006 09:19:21.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[F06C7EB0:01C69A93] Well I think I agree with the consensus that a project should be as long (or short) as it needs to be. I think the "digital" realm can allow this but I wonder what culture shift it will take for people to consume/listen to variable length projects. I still feel comfortable with the 45-60 minute thing, even when I "harvest" my physical media. Which, after this discussion, I'm starting to feel guilty about...I wonder if it like those awful "Best of Relaxing Classics" Cd's where a more acceptable sub-section of a piece is taken out of context. It is po-mo or just plain lazy! I like the work in progress idea too - do you think that means things will be released in seperate versions? So you can download "MyTrack.mp3" v1.1 or v2.1 or something? Or will the work "evolve" into different versions and reworkings (like dub works)? Regards Paul _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 09:16:58 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39277-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44275 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:16:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 44263 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:16:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:16:39 +0200 From: eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ot: lossless compression for 32bit wave files To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000901c69a93$90a26670$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <003a01c699e1$c56e0150$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Owen, yes, that's what i was looking for. many thanks for the pointer! eretsua. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen Green" <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] ot: lossless compression for 32bit wave files > Hi eretsua, > > The MPEG-4 lossless codec claims to handle 32-bit (including floating > point, which I guess is what you're after?). I've not tried it. > > http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/forschung/projekte/lossless/mp4als.html > > There's a download for the reference implementation near the bottom of the > page. > > hth, > Owen > > eretsua wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is there a program that can losslessly compress 32bit wave files? FLAC >> only supports 16bit waves files and Shorten (SHN) doesn't do it either. >> :( >> i've looked for it but couldn't find anything. :( thanks, >> eretsua. >> >> ps. i'm a windows user, >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 03:26:09 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39276-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26989 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:25:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 26978 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:25:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zE1+hujR6Hl52PIkhgKSqQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gMrjcVHyLlP9V4Qc2eNDbabu98fQmqvB9NQkFdwTodpKsV2Dxdz5G4Srjmbb1HA1Er3z5D2raKtNq4A0aySrqUSuDgSWLCU0K5XuTEdgTNCZVqFUuXbgKkSydozfIyxXzCYmEoxZkV5swObpmzaEJXhrtx2JDkx1gfBPDyH8cII= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_zE1+hujR6Hl52PIkhgKSqQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You might check out TV on the Radio, the new Ekkehard Ehlers, The Books, some John Fahey, Jim O Rourke, and CocoRosie. Love them all. Peter --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --Boundary_(ID_zE1+hujR6Hl52PIkhgKSqQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 03:03:13 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39275-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18217 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:03:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 18207 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:03:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:56:21 -0400 (EDT) From: colin <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=59ZLXejxE4zQwqU25E4GpZgKZ45U4oNCi40soGRabvoLZrlDAStK+usxSXYbyw9H7Bpl0iVCx6M7gLOF9tbXrodX7GhY1vYBMRObfMx/uVbwFY5L8T1RYkG0KnVuM3JccXDyVclD6E5LUCxs6cOptyf8KMS65pIAJ2RTK/CGqZI= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --- Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any > contacts for people involved > with the arizona electronic music community? http://notbreathing.com http://myspace.com/terminal11 - http://freewebs.com/brokensleep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Wed Jun 28 01:53:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39274-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97585 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:53:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 97575 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:53:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:53:16 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Recent Music To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1yfRA/TtTYAraR0Q0rs3qA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TcX9JjMAJS1I8YB0v8D2umb1xiWxnW93sWEG/XrjkSgc7B7x6KEfmmXUsGnUX4BING3fuDMRJUdPckEAB6KFUJ58ylcnySasmlsf1OC8Q1dqt9DSePJiyJdQd499fesuiyjr1XQxiZyMD0nU8g160DCS/svgh42+xPxr1OYsLiU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1yfRA/TtTYAraR0Q0rs3qA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am looking for recent electronic sonic-art, electroacoutic music. Have anyone some uploaded music on the web or links of interesting things? thanks, ref --Boundary_(ID_1yfRA/TtTYAraR0Q0rs3qA)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 28 00:32:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39273-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74521 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:32:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 74511 invoked from network); Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:32:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:32:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FjGOFsRkqWtav7N+60yCmAgMGktOY96tqkNXskgyHi7mUWzDV0wj0aCHMyPWkiaB7yPdzlSvjhiBPEPj2mWveoPGA2thCUZ/zw7ANCkJ0xs2pud08rH1vCauej19DYXHYxKoRGiAHAccivVUusGKGY67zwneqEL/XwzKdt7sbR4= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Ooh, I love this discussion. I've put a lot of thought in the last couple years about the art of album creation and how it's different from the art of song creation and performing live shows. My personal tastes are that I like to listen to an artist or group in blocks of 40 to 65 minutes if the music is good. That's not an on purpose thing, I just find if it's longer I tend to change the cd, and if it's shorter I find myself wanting to hear more (except in the case of very saturdated/sonically dense albums). In fact, one of the reasons I haven't gone back to listening to vinyl is that I don't want to flip a record every 20 minutes. Speaking of which, I wonder if the length of time that vinyl has the form of media has an effect on our current attention spans. With vinyl, if you had more than 22 minutes on a side, you'd lose audio quality, so it was rare that records were longer than 45 minutes. As we moved to longer formats, album lengths gradually increased to now an average of about 60 minutes. My listening habits haven't really changed with the transition from physical media to digital. Even when I'm listening to streaming radio I tend to change the station every 60 minutes or so. Sometimes if an artist has an ep for download, I won't burn it to cd until I have another ep to pair it with. As far as creating a project goes, my advice would be to pay attention to your own listening habits and those of others when you hear it. If you find yourself losing patience during a song or using the cue button to get to "the cool part", that's a sign it could be shortened. When determining the song order for a project, I usually try to figure out a few songs that sound like "early", "middle" and "end" songs, then put the others in an order that flows well. I sometimes wind up using songs that I was originally lukewarm about, just because they fit so well with others. And I wind up not using tracks that I'm really happy with, because they'd have to be forced in. Back to shorter formats - I think that current top 40 music is a very singles-oriented music being forced into an album format, which results in a lot of mediocre "filler" tracks on the album. Lately, both the digital distribution model and the (r)emergence of compilations and mixtapes have been steering those fans away from albums. Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 20:43:20 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39272-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86975 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:43:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 86965 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:43:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:36:16 -0700 (PDT) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? In-reply-to: <004301c69a26$d647c3e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wwhw7uCx3DnSm/yC88KKwp7xnZXBbjVMKu4KWgnojBGVYvt5bPqm/+r0Dg5SE+RICv42Q55ZwFK7W4k87bmndzMcMLMZKZf0hc7I3SPp17WJuRsVYP0yK7gz0L97h4T0g7HQa/fgsW5qLoCumTsPNh2ajPmPGeV+2Lt4nhLc4Lg= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx arizona sounds hot ! i checked this link. looks like alot of people putting out lo-fi music. that is awesome. i'de like to see more about this stuff. and or anyone playing in austin ? >b< garcia --- will soderberg <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > my friend adam mokan lives in chandler arizona, has > been playing some local > shows at places like the trunkspace... he is not > really microsound, but does > build his own synths and is quite a smart feller... > http://adammokan.russolo.com/ > ~will soderberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Wiernik" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:06 PM > Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? > > > > > > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any > contacts for people > involved > > with the arizona electronic music community? > > thanks in advance > > neil.. > > > > ============================ > > www.phoniq.net > > releases available on: > > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > > publication: > > www.vagueterrain.net > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - > Release Date: 6/26/2006 > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 27 20:25:42 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39271-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80411 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:25:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 80374 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:25:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:25:13 -0400 From: darren bergstein <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? In-reply-to: <003a01c69a23$7edc2f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> <007e01c69a1c$e72521d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003a01c69a23$7edc2f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx not familiar w/c/a/t, but hey, it works, more power to 'em. arizona can use all the scene it can get. - darren b > I don't live there, but if C/A/T live @ Sadisco can get well over a > hundred people, I think that means there's an electronic music > scene in Arizona. > Or are you omitting the non-mainstream forms? > > ~ !J! > http://www.endif.org > http://www.crunchpod.com > http://www.thirdwavecollective.com > >> i lived in arizona (mostly in & around phoenix, a year in tucson) >> for about 13 years (1986-1999), and can vouch that for the most >> part there is *no* electronic 'scene' of any validity there - >> never has been. whatever retail element existed is about washed >> up from what i've been told (zia records has become worthless, so >> has tower; there's still stinkweeds but they don't truck in much >> of anything electronic). - - - e/i magazine > music electronic & otherwise < 9 edward pl woodcliff lake nj 07677 usa xxxx@xx-xxx.xxx / xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.ei-mag.com storm the studio blog www.stormstudio.blogspot.com - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 20:22:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39270-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78551 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:22:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 78541 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:22:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:18:21 -0400 From: will soderberg <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004301c69a26$d647c3e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx my friend adam mokan lives in chandler arizona, has been playing some local shows at places like the trunkspace... he is not really microsound, but does build his own synths and is quite a smart feller... http://adammokan.russolo.com/ ~will soderberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Wiernik" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? > > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any contacts for people involved > with the arizona electronic music community? > thanks in advance > neil.. > > ============================ > www.phoniq.net > releases available on: > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > publication: > www.vagueterrain.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 20:09:04 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39269-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71538 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:08:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 71527 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:08:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:54:25 -0500 From: Jason Hollis <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003a01c69a23$7edc2f90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> <007e01c69a1c$e72521d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I don't live there, but if C/A/T live @ Sadisco can get well over a hundred people, I think that means there's an electronic music scene in Arizona. Or are you omitting the non-mainstream forms? ~ !J! http://www.endif.org http://www.crunchpod.com http://www.thirdwavecollective.com > i lived in arizona (mostly in & around phoenix, a year in tucson) for > about 13 years (1986-1999), and can vouch that for the most part there is > *no* electronic 'scene' of any validity there - never has been. whatever > retail element existed is about washed up from what i've been told (zia > records has become worthless, so has tower; there's still stinkweeds but > they don't truck in much of anything electronic). > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 19:37:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39267-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56281 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:37:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 56268 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:37:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:37:36 -0400 From: Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Nsch+cgU6xDh7qB6RLBj/Q)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MqfRJJI8iDq6RuO8WWHEVqxsY7C4nAQ8lFKOMvC6XiHieZNCKChiKfcHV6hL52FNFLqX7mJw2wsB9QAIAMg8hC2e0ZXUlPn/XJWICLsu/btMRbuxafMiAPgqsjb9BwLBzZVn3oISc8uhB3n0DK/5fkfPXMqQzqg4WWTD2z/2XKw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Nsch+cgU6xDh7qB6RLBj/Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Funny this topic should come up.. Amongst other things I've been pouring through the old Lomax recording lately and just wrote a little historical piece on Howlin Wolf. I also recently picked up a disc on Sub Rosa of Tibetan folk songs many of which have a very close aesthetic relationship to American Blues. The microtonal slide playing we hear in southern blues seems to be related to some of the microtonal music from India and the middle eastern countries. Presently, many folks inclined to study ethnomusicology are exploring the idea of blues as a universal language. There does seem to be something intrinsic to the blues in a way that transcends time and space. This isn't to negate the historical importance of the blues. To a large degree, I agree with Mark's evaluation of the blues in terms of socio-economics. It might be worth mentioning that for many folks, playing the blues, or the popular folk music of their local, was often a way to get out of some dangerous form of work. Musicians were some of the few folk that didn't have to work in the mines and the decision was clear for a great many people. I think that the structural simplicity of the music is one of its greatest advantages. It allows for a more democratic music and allows for creativity on a level that music that relies on instrumental virtuosity often lacks. The blues are very easy to mimic but very hard to play. Many of what are now conventions of modal blues required a great imagination on the part of the musicians playing it. The manipulation of sounds using creative recording methods and the newly available amplifier technology is simply stunning. -mike www.michaelsamos.com On 6/27/06, Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > That, or because its just really easy music to play. > > On 27 Jun 2006, at 11:32, Mark R. wrote: > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of > > capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were > > shaping the > > United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues > > was a > > call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic > > society. It > > wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted > > to feel. > > The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren > > intensified > > these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it > > come > > out. > > > > You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time > > sometimes had > > prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches > > claim it > > was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those > > times was > > like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that > > recall the > > histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in > > many parts > > of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of > > knowledge of > > the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more > > like a > > force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge. > > > > I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is > > basic, and > > a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming > > more and > > more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a > > connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process > > except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw > > emotion in > > the moment. > > > > Best, > > > > Mark Ragsdale > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- --Boundary_(ID_Nsch+cgU6xDh7qB6RLBj/Q)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 19:38:34 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39268-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57294 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:38:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 57267 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:38:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:37:30 -0400 From: darren bergstein <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? In-reply-to: <007e01c69a1c$e72521d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> <007e01c69a1c$e72521d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx well, on the ambient/electronic end of things you also still have: - steve roach (tucson) - jeff greinke (also tucson) i lived in arizona (mostly in & around phoenix, a year in tucson) for about 13 years (1986-1999), and can vouch that for the most part there is *no* electronic 'scene' of any validity there - never has been. whatever retail element existed is about washed up from what i've been told (zia records has become worthless, so has tower; there's still stinkweeds but they don't truck in much of anything electronic). the small experimental scene (*very* small) in phoenix used to congregate around a tiny but excellent shop/performance space called metropophobobia (that's not a typo) that, like in most cities, was squeezed out because of skyrocketing rents & upwardly-mobile neighborhood changes. the place was run by peter ragan (who, with david oliphant, used to comprise 1/2 of the superb improv/ experimental/electronic troupe life garden - check out their cds from the early 90s). peter did occasionally host a number of then 'leading lights' on the electronic spectrum (greinke, thomas dimuzio), and the space's rep was touted from groups such as s.f.'s survival research laboratories & crash worship a.d.v.r., but once peter was forced to vacate, whatever little notoriety the spot fomented immediately dried up. mr. ragan & co. have long since stopped performing/recording as well (peter & david, where are you? if you're reading this, give us a holler!). - darren bergstein e/i magazine > far as i know only 5 people live in arizona > jeph jarmen > joe sabella > j a deane > ed hardy > mike quinn > > robert > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Wiernik" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? > >> Hey does any one on this list happen to have any contacts for >> people involved with the arizona electronic music community? >> thanks in advance >> neil.. - - - e/i magazine > music electronic & otherwise < 9 edward pl woodcliff lake nj 07677 usa xxxx@xx-xxx.xxx / xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.ei-mag.com storm the studio blog www.stormstudio.blogspot.com - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 19:17:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39266-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44956 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:17:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 44944 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:17:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:06:24 -0700 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arizona electronic music? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007e01c69a1c$e72521d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx far as i know only 5 people live in arizona jeph jarmen joe sabella j a deane ed hardy mike quinn robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Wiernik" <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:06 AM Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? > > Hey does any one on this list happen to have any contacts for people > involved with the arizona electronic music community? > thanks in advance > neil.. > > ============================ > www.phoniq.net > releases available on: > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > publication: > www.vagueterrain.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 18:03:26 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39264-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12030 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:03:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 12020 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:03:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:06:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] arizona electronic music? X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey does any one on this list happen to have any contacts for people involved with the arizona electronic music community? thanks in advance neil.. ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 18:04:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39265-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13812 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:03:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 13789 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:03:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:03:55 -0400 From: Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_z9KWpRVAs8WKUcWLKd2PyA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pK4L+kigkNEJucATsAZ/pfoD2uM0NiI/ClNGGEbSQ7sfJ9XqdFcWB0Ib294Lk19TV+YkXFl3RQOUwMJbp4SRBCTLLoIIZ9VUVD8D9GSzWPeC4OC6nME/gzMbnEdODXybplT5GCZCuaj4Uu8KUYCmwc48Kgf9Js9Re9Siw9gtwJw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_z9KWpRVAs8WKUcWLKd2PyA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and by months I meant years on the zeena + ikue disc On 6/27/06, Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I really think it depends specifically on the music. I've been listening > intently to Todd Dockstader's Aerial 1 & 2 and I'm eagerly awaiting number > 3. I have no problem with listening for over 200 minutes if the music > warrants that type of listening. Having said that, I often like to listen > in "chunks" of 5-15 min and then repeat the listening. > > Last weekend, I was recording an album for a rock band in Boston I am > friends with and they mentioned to me that they prefer to play 25 minutes > sets. People come up to them and tell them: "that was great! why didn't you > play longer?" They feel it is a better response than people standing around > with their arms crossed after 45 minutes of non stop playing. I think there > is a degree to which this applies to albums too. Filler is definitely a bad > thing. I listen to the Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori disc that came out a few > months ago (somewhere in the mid 30min range if I remember right) and I am > left wanting more. I like feeling that desire. > > -mike > www.michaelsamos.com > > > On 6/26/06, xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx < xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > This is a very interesting question -- one I hadn't previously spent > > more than isolated moments "thinking" about. > > > > I think the 60 minute album length is, for the most part, a marketing > > ploy. "Over an hour of music" screams the sticker! And as others have > > already pointed out, all too often the hour has many, many minutes of > > filler. On the other hand, I have more than a few 70+ minute CDs that > > end all too soon for my ears. > > > > I'll weigh in on the side of those who feel an album (or EP or single) > > is done when it feels like everything it needs is already there -- no > > matter what the time length. Also, I love the concept of multiple hour > > CD/DVD lengths, and the "release early, release often" concept has merit > > > > too. > > > > =j= > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > -- www.michaelsamos.com --Boundary_(ID_z9KWpRVAs8WKUcWLKd2PyA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 17:59:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39263-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8842 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:59:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 8826 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:59:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400 From: Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gP3kXLa6Mhn311kjc1tp3A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LcKVkNK4faa/wTRGvWQX7Drv3S2WDQqZX5VehgbJYHoue4n0a/hX3govwuSRUg4kAh624wN7W+eCvkpYTirMRSEGzgeesIxUB/IlwsTxzQLZSw6Z4GpxP3+9bkk3t8vhm+HRgiog6ipg5INzJ4Wp4TEaI3mcB7rDes89dgJWwAc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_gP3kXLa6Mhn311kjc1tp3A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really think it depends specifically on the music. I've been listening intently to Todd Dockstader's Aerial 1 & 2 and I'm eagerly awaiting number 3. I have no problem with listening for over 200 minutes if the music warrants that type of listening. Having said that, I often like to listen in "chunks" of 5-15 min and then repeat the listening. Last weekend, I was recording an album for a rock band in Boston I am friends with and they mentioned to me that they prefer to play 25 minutes sets. People come up to them and tell them: "that was great! why didn't you play longer?" They feel it is a better response than people standing around with their arms crossed after 45 minutes of non stop playing. I think there is a degree to which this applies to albums too. Filler is definitely a bad thing. I listen to the Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori disc that came out a few months ago (somewhere in the mid 30min range if I remember right) and I am left wanting more. I like feeling that desire. -mike www.michaelsamos.com On 6/26/06, xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > This is a very interesting question -- one I hadn't previously spent > more than isolated moments "thinking" about. > > I think the 60 minute album length is, for the most part, a marketing > ploy. "Over an hour of music" screams the sticker! And as others have > already pointed out, all too often the hour has many, many minutes of > filler. On the other hand, I have more than a few 70+ minute CDs that > end all too soon for my ears. > > I'll weigh in on the side of those who feel an album (or EP or single) > is done when it feels like everything it needs is already there -- no > matter what the time length. Also, I love the concept of multiple hour > CD/DVD lengths, and the "release early, release often" concept has merit > too. > > =j= > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_gP3kXLa6Mhn311kjc1tp3A)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 17:16:05 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39262-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90662 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:15:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 90650 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:15:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:15:45 +0100 From: Mat Ranson <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That, or because its just really easy music to play. On 27 Jun 2006, at 11:32, Mark R. wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of > capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were > shaping the > United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues > was a > call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic > society. It > wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted > to feel. > The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren > intensified > these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it > come > out. > > You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time > sometimes had > prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches > claim it > was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those > times was > like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that > recall the > histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in > many parts > of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of > knowledge of > the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more > like a > force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge. > > I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is > basic, and > a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming > more and > more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a > connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process > except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw > emotion in > the moment. > > Best, > > Mark Ragsdale --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 16:55:26 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39261-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82883 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:55:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 82869 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:55:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:55:12 -0400 From: "\\js" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o4IW5RZePvye1kX4uzJfkB3aMdKsU7InTlO/Y4hGwLIQTez3aDCwaS6S5mi/n95uDCJbD/7efQiPgQgxyBinR1F1tcjD4dWYdKjiwGnzDFadZSNCV4JKD5y08SGVT/tWh9XWEBXbwbmFT2K1NOLk+3xNhIWv4vqn8xznta2t/wk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <008301c699d8$b8b76450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On 6/27/06, cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > specially nowdays, i tend to listen to music as a contemporary exercise > which life is short according to the way i see mine go by. > ignorant? avantgarde? idiot? victim? anxious? multi-dimentional! [all] -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 14:35:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39260-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23151 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:34:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 23139 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:34:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:16:58 -0300 From: Enrique Deschutter <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Buenos Aires in July To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004c01c699f4$769e8cd0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello Johnny I live in Buenos Aires and im a musician. I can be your guide here, no problem, there are a lot of interesting art & music events. If you want, contact me via msn: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx. Best regards. Enrique ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Dixon" <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:45 AM Subject: [microsound] Buenos Aires in July > Hello > > Can any microsoundistos direct me to interesting events, places, > galleries - > or even shops in Buenos Aires? I'll be there for three weeks from 9 July. > > Johnny > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 13:48:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39259-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3817 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:47:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 3807 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:47:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:47:54 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Sg1qpDBkw2Jq/ZZ6gmFEjg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RBW6jjb0ergjXShhg/+FHrnmvrti+Ulos5t35l7n9Tal4LQzCrTOzApf0aQDnyHXzeVIXlfTLngZzNAoUpE5Vhc0wLO49m3oduUMnWvhArCxE48LHEJPmbsVuUrB8I74VC83j+P8wm1zs7QEW5Hcy/CTtV4QApeZYsVXNmlOW+0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <008301c699d8$b8b76450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Sg1qpDBkw2Jq/ZZ6gmFEjg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ops, and all that doesn't mean my mind hasn't been blown many times while listening to music. that's the romance. the emotion between the music and the listener. as mr duchamp sentenced more than a hundred years ago. a work of art adquires its total definition when it has been adapted by the spectator. On 6/27/06, cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > i wrote: > > "i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and > listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic > feeling towards music." > > we live on a hurry, at least i do. even trying to be conscient about it, i > do. things happen so quick. > > that romantic feeling was related to the fact of keeping something (in > this case, the music). I said to myself, what's the point of keeping stuff > 'm not going to listen to? every now and then (maybe once a year) my stock > gets filtered. just few kilobytes remain. space is expensive, and time even > more. hosting physical data at my place means rejecting space for my > children to play. totally eaten by materialism some may say. > > that romantic feeling was stated because of the satisfaction of owning a > piece of art. satisfaction which i rejected. > > specially nowdays, i tend to listen to music as a contemporary exercise > which life is short according to the way i see mine go by. i have many times > tried to go back and listen to what many big names in the history of music > have defined as 'most significant' and most of the times haven't been > further than boredom. > > ignorant? avantgarde? idiot? victim? anxious? > > whatever but sincere. > > have a nice day. > > btw: cHristian negre is the nick my parents decided. ;) > > > > On 6/27/06, Revolution #9 <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > > I think this could be a nice topic for this list... > > yesterday, guy under nick cHristian negre said in one of his posts > > "that's why i don't care much about the romantic > > feeling towards music", which is attitude only possible if you got any > > deeper in experimental music in the right way, with understanding of music's > > position, intention, historical developments and objectives... > > > > but, there's no dennying that some of world's most renowned > > microsounders tend to be very 'romantic' in their works; > > Fennesz, Ambarchi, Roden, Pan Sonic, Matmos, sometimes Pita - almost > > whole Mille P., Mego and Ritornell roster... > > > > "romantic" in the sense that often they can't (won't) deal away with the > > heritage of the past in totality, which is very interesting point of > > development of contemporary electronic/e.a. music that is coming from the > > "popular music" side of things (read: glitch)... > > and not to mention open tries at being downright "romantic" (in everyday > > meaning of the word) and "emotionally evocative and lifting"; attempts at > > that are numerous (Fennesz, Ambarchi and Roden first come to mind and almost > > whole drone music repertoire).... > > > > it's interesting phenomenon that I'd like to discuss with other people > > on this list... > > overall question could be: "how petty symphaties do evolve in > > experimental and advanced music ?", > > a topic Cage and Adorno once dealt with and, I think, a topic held its > > importance to these days.... > > > > how the rest of the people see this ?... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========================== > > Die Kunst ist tot > > Es lebe die neue Maschinenkunst Tatlins > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > -- > cHristian negre i walczak > -- > +34 69 76 69 009 > skype: applejux > -- > www.applejux.tk > www.op3n.net > www.minifu.com > -- > www.dancepress.es/trax > www.culturanocturna.com > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_Sg1qpDBkw2Jq/ZZ6gmFEjg)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 13:44:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39258-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 949 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:43:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 935 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:43:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:43:55 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" In-reply-to: <008301c699d8$b8b76450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Rub1Gjh0Mrq7ZNh/Ewmizw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bYKoxepJezd6ycRJiae5M/foX1GdkuzWbr+2ShYYgufEeQdTm1pqpm6cVetjdLIE04iMQXloc4LNH5yHxci22cBJDQxQ0DSuHAYtiH2leW5XsmnK042R6vC7LthRG/UZyybtDRjlPmvhpT7OiUSGb/FrUW1T8f2sCRNRy3UCm5U= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <008301c699d8$b8b76450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Rub1Gjh0Mrq7ZNh/Ewmizw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i wrote: "i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic feeling towards music." we live on a hurry, at least i do. even trying to be conscient about it, i do. things happen so quick. that romantic feeling was related to the fact of keeping something (in this case, the music). I said to myself, what's the point of keeping stuff 'm not going to listen to? every now and then (maybe once a year) my stock gets filtered. just few kilobytes remain. space is expensive, and time even more. hosting physical data at my place means rejecting space for my children to play. totally eaten by materialism some may say. that romantic feeling was stated because of the satisfaction of owning a piece of art. satisfaction which i rejected. specially nowdays, i tend to listen to music as a contemporary exercise which life is short according to the way i see mine go by. i have many times tried to go back and listen to what many big names in the history of music have defined as 'most significant' and most of the times haven't been further than boredom. ignorant? avantgarde? idiot? victim? anxious? whatever but sincere. have a nice day. btw: cHristian negre is the nick my parents decided. ;) On 6/27/06, Revolution #9 <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: > > I think this could be a nice topic for this list... > yesterday, guy under nick cHristian negre said in one of his posts "that's > why i don't care much about the romantic > feeling towards music", which is attitude only possible if you got any > deeper in experimental music in the right way, with understanding of music's > position, intention, historical developments and objectives... > > but, there's no dennying that some of world's most renowned microsounders > tend to be very 'romantic' in their works; > Fennesz, Ambarchi, Roden, Pan Sonic, Matmos, sometimes Pita - almost whole > Mille P., Mego and Ritornell roster... > > "romantic" in the sense that often they can't (won't) deal away with the > heritage of the past in totality, which is very interesting point of > development of contemporary electronic/e.a. music that is coming from the > "popular music" side of things (read: glitch)... > and not to mention open tries at being downright "romantic" (in everyday > meaning of the word) and "emotionally evocative and lifting"; attempts at > that are numerous (Fennesz, Ambarchi and Roden first come to mind and almost > whole drone music repertoire).... > > it's interesting phenomenon that I'd like to discuss with other people on > this list... > overall question could be: "how petty symphaties do evolve in experimental > and advanced music ?", > a topic Cage and Adorno once dealt with and, I think, a topic held its > importance to these days.... > > how the rest of the people see this ?... > > > > > > > > > > =========================== > Die Kunst ist tot > Es lebe die neue Maschinenkunst Tatlins > ---------------------------------------- > > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_Rub1Gjh0Mrq7ZNh/Ewmizw)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 13:26:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39257-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92428 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:26:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 92418 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:26:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:26:28 -0500 From: "Mark R." <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2nuB3BiiNQBv+E/Oq+7FEg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Q0COmjmEE+OYLTTMTKrR61W1gDrwDW7u+pFT2YG9Du0QAGNMLsBZ+PEyDb0N+MlsXcjI+nCOv1BNkpZrC4FOz0fIfdRyxPWUpbS1tB6N5R1TO9ISziOa7pEH/OC1a7OcRTbYgoQwEYeLndpf6r6DFpG05b1nKlJzU11SCVw8AyI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2nuB3BiiNQBv+E/Oq+7FEg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, I posted this earlier, so apologies if this same message is coming through again, but I recieved the message below. Does anyone ever get these? Do I need to reexamine my subscrption to microsound to post? Just wondering if others are getting this message when posting. I had never heard of xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx Best, Mark xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx More options 5:36 am (2½ hours ago) Blogger could not process your message at this time. Error code: 11.156A687 Original message: From: xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:32:53 +0900 Subject: Re: [microsound On 6/27/06, Mark R. <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi Jeff, > > Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of > capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were shaping the > United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues was a > call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic society. It > wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted to feel. > The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren intensified > these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it come > out. > > You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time sometimes > had prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches claim > it was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those times > was like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that recall the > histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in many parts > of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of knowledge of > the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more like a > force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge. > > I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is basic, > and a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more and > more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a > connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process > except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw emotion in > the moment. > > Best, > > Mark Ragsdale > > > > On 6/27/06, jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > wrote: > > > > > > microsounders and steven, > > > > the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st > > Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at > > www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released > > on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in > > the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me > > by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with > > ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but > > interesting: > > > > "...the blues were literally made by the recording > > process...For the Bluesman the long road from > > plantation to obscurity to international fame was > > first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and > > albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have > > meausured their days on earth in exactly this way, > > between records." --Bruce Russell > > > > the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists, > > post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we > > have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont > > neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step > > backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step > > backward in the history of blues (while his recording > > of his "recording" takes one step forward into > > dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me) > > begs the question: if the blues was entertainment > > industry music then what of prison songs? what of > > remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is > > there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the > > feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording > > only? were there no fields for the field > > hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp? > > > > in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to > > boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar (also a > > comment on the use of history). he has a choice when > > to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history" > > (i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the > > original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and > > off. is it the comment on the recording process that > > itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question > > that takes on the "identifiction" of microsound > > itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or > > with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a > > data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available > > to you in the turntable or tape-machine? > > > > i'd like to hear some comments on this. > > > > > > > > > > j.ff gbk > > > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > > > http://www.djalma.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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Tue Jun 27 12:33:56 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39256-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76975 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:33:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 76963 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:33:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:33:38 +0100 From: Owen Green <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ot: lossless compression for 32bit wave files In-reply-to: <003a01c699e1$c56e0150$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <003a01c699e1$c56e0150$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi eretsua, The MPEG-4 lossless codec claims to handle 32-bit (including floating point, which I guess is what you're after?). I've not tried it. http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/forschung/projekte/lossless/mp4als.html There's a download for the reference implementation near the bottom of the page. hth, Owen eretsua wrote: > Hi, > > is there a program that can losslessly compress 32bit wave files? FLAC only supports 16bit waves files and Shorten (SHN) doesn't do it either. :( > i've looked for it but couldn't find anything. :( > > thanks, > eretsua. > > ps. i'm a windows user, > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 12:04:04 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39255-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68955 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:03:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 68943 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:03:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:03:58 +0200 From: eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ot: lossless compression for 32bit wave files To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003a01c699e1$c56e0150$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2Sfxj8p88aF8lR7Z/URN7Q)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2Sfxj8p88aF8lR7Z/URN7Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, is there a program that can losslessly compress 32bit wave files? FLAC only supports 16bit waves files and Shorten (SHN) doesn't do it either. :( i've looked for it but couldn't find anything. :( thanks, eretsua. ps. i'm a windows user, --Boundary_(ID_2Sfxj8p88aF8lR7Z/URN7Q)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 11:19:38 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39254-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58829 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:19:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 58817 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:19:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:19:23 -0300 From: Jason Carich <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Buenos Aires in July In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Johny take note of this: Clubs: *Club Minimo* (minimal to experimental ): Every Friday - Doors open at 12 pm CLUB MINIMO @ NICETO CLUB Lado B Niceto Vega & Humbolt , Cdad. A. Buenos Aires, Argentina. and *+160 *(from IDM to Drum and Bass ): Every Thuesday Doors open at 11pm till 4,30 am. Lavalle 345, Cdad. A. Buenos Aires, Argentina. http://www.mas160.com/ for restaurant, bar , indumentary , art and cool stuff. http://www.palermohollywood.net/ http://www.palermosoho.net/ Record Store: Plasma http://www.plasmarecordssitio.com/ Johnny Dixon wrote: > Hello > > Can any microsoundistos direct me to interesting events, places, > galleries - > or even shops in Buenos Aires? I'll be there for three weeks from 9 > July. > > Johnny > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 10:59:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39253-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52754 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:59:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 52743 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:59:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:59:10 +0200 From: Revolution #9 <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] "romantic feelings about music" To: microsound lista <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008301c699d8$b8b76450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7lrgDQWFPJAomN2MRXoDEw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scan: EUnet-AVAS-Milter X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-Spam-Checker: EUnet-AVAS-Milter X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 1.4 X-AVAS-Spam-Level: xx X-AVAS-Spam-Symbols: BAYES_60 HTML_30_40 HTML_MESSAGE NO_RECEIVED NO_RELAYS X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7lrgDQWFPJAomN2MRXoDEw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this could be a nice topic for this list... yesterday, guy under nick cHristian negre said in one of his posts "that's why i don't care much about the romantic feeling towards music", which is attitude only possible if you got any deeper in experimental music in the right way, with understanding of music's position, intention, historical developments and objectives... but, there's no dennying that some of world's most renowned microsounders tend to be very 'romantic' in their works; Fennesz, Ambarchi, Roden, Pan Sonic, Matmos, sometimes Pita - almost whole Mille P., Mego and Ritornell roster... "romantic" in the sense that often they can't (won't) deal away with the heritage of the past in totality, which is very interesting point of development of contemporary electronic/e.a. music that is coming from the "popular music" side of things (read: glitch)... and not to mention open tries at being downright "romantic" (in everyday meaning of the word) and "emotionally evocative and lifting"; attempts at that are numerous (Fennesz, Ambarchi and Roden first come to mind and almost whole drone music repertoire).... it's interesting phenomenon that I'd like to discuss with other people on this list... overall question could be: "how petty symphaties do evolve in experimental and advanced music ?", a topic Cage and Adorno once dealt with and, I think, a topic held its importance to these days.... how the rest of the people see this ?... =========================== Die Kunst ist tot Es lebe die neue Maschinenkunst Tatlins ---------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_7lrgDQWFPJAomN2MRXoDEw)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 10:45:54 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39252-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48301 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:45:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 48290 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:45:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:45:38 +0100 From: Johnny Dixon <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Buenos Aires in July To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vnULL2gnVT32ZucC9gToaA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=OdKFGiM0+JzHx19s0RXpI+9YU1i/bUx6tBD/3eg+YXZfct8BBjpklydTpeJME/QybjDH1hX3k6gdHe51dEJlKFdsrsY6bet5NQwWQD9/o9VJ0yYVlUKFIc0Jfya3SGvRBNsApPrW3t84pZfumnHqZFIagxdGtnzjt4gvg6StiXA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_vnULL2gnVT32ZucC9gToaA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Can any microsoundistos direct me to interesting events, places, galleries - or even shops in Buenos Aires? I'll be there for three weeks from 9 July. Johnny --Boundary_(ID_vnULL2gnVT32ZucC9gToaA)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 10:33:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39251-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44724 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:32:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 44710 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:32:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:32:53 +0900 From: "Mark R." <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_thI16Qi/SUMUM95jgzp52A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eqbinZI+kEaDoZWt4023eQKlEGLZJ5UpKCh5iSWcpByK87ZhMEqAQEkfttbHrhJ1R9qAsX4+W/wkA8WGxFrlqIw1QSVk6AKFWEsRozyZXwQXKNznB8abqDK+JB36tnEyo331JmUavv/QHDsM370GDrRUJ4Tb8Gy9Ar6u8qjjvDc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_thI16Qi/SUMUM95jgzp52A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jeff, Very interesting topic here and one that goes deep into many facets of capitalism mixed with the political and racist forces that were shaping the United States at this time. I for one am a believer that the blues was a call to a lost voice of emotion within a cold materialistic society. It wasn't only blacks that felt the blues, but all people who wanted to feel. The severe conditions forced upon our darker skinned brethren intensified these emotions to the point it became an absolute necessity that it come out. You have to keep in mind that even black Americans at the time sometimes had prejudices against this rooted music...due in part to the churches claim it was Satanic. B B King once claimed that to play the blues in those times was like being black twice. There are still roving musicians that recall the histories and ancestries of the villages through their songs in many parts of Africa, and are not so much a victim of prejudices, but of knowledge of the supernatural and therefore not part of any village, but more like a force of nature passing through and raining down ancestral knowledge. I look at the blues in it's present form as the voice of what is basic, and a call to common sense in a world that is increasingly becoming more and more complicated and out of balance. I am not sure how one comes to a connection with past bluesmen through the electronic recording process except to have a feeling of it and express it honestly with raw emotion in the moment. Best, Mark Ragsdale On 6/27/06, jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > microsounders and steven, > > the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st > Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at > www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released > on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in > the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me > by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with > ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but > interesting: > > "...the blues were literally made by the recording > process...For the Bluesman the long road from > plantation to obscurity to international fame was > first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and > albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have > meausured their days on earth in exactly this way, > between records." --Bruce Russell > > the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists, > post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we > have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont > neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step > backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step > backward in the history of blues (while his recording > of his "recording" takes one step forward into > dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me) > begs the question: if the blues was entertainment > industry music then what of prison songs? what of > remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is > there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the > feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording > only? were there no fields for the field > hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp? > > in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to > boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar (also a > comment on the use of history). he has a choice when > to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history" > (i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the > original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and > off. is it the comment on the recording process that > itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question > that takes on the "identifiction" of microsound > itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or > with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a > data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available > to you in the turntable or tape-machine? > > i'd like to hear some comments on this. > > > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Tue Jun 27 08:54:31 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39250-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15828 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:54:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 15817 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:54:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:54:20 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DMhCqmWU0/mJ5HkXl2fN9EtNjcsSgG29g9PrqRwkf5O+ELa1Ri/b1VeT4L5xBtgAmUgVr8rd9GQWfU3E2fQVEfmbCx5dBYkcR6IqiFjCkbhrY2uy7szqG2hkp3ZYruVCBuqXUs0wiZLBoxsBSqG2Letfki4MPjvyBuT78IJXRwc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx microsounders and steven, the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but interesting: "...the blues were literally made by the recording process...For the Bluesman the long road from plantation to obscurity to international fame was first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have meausured their days on earth in exactly this way, between records." --Bruce Russell the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists, post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step backward in the history of blues (while his recording of his "recording" takes one step forward into dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me) begs the question: if the blues was entertainment industry music then what of prison songs? what of remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording only? were there no fields for the field hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp? in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar (also a comment on the use of history). he has a choice when to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history" (i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and off. is it the comment on the recording process that itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question that takes on the "identifiction" of microsound itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available to you in the turntable or tape-machine? i'd like to hear some comments on this. j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 27 08:33:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39249-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8765 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:33:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 8755 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:33:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:31:49 +0100 From: Fernando Fonseca <xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: OT: Ritz Club and Hot Clube in Lisbon? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <DNEOKHGICEGGLJCGPJDAGEFACAAA.xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:importance:x-mimeole; b=avbjzn/VTpj+bzo8G0Yoq+Fp4r0ok47qTiNQIMoWWzj5Q2+7HiQOorCpZxeWrmWIK9Pp3me1Cc9kXU+fEpUWwnm3/YhwPpQqbMMDSmUF9K2TyFG82yYST+1MuJlGdvyjKJhR4h3e4RCSWkWgilODscE09M53Dk1mDjonpePpTLI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello Hans, Ritz Club no longer exists and now it is called Maxime. They have no website but maybe you can work around your way on this adress: http://cotonete.clix.pt/agenda/index.asp It is an agenda from a music portal and all you have to do is to put the dates that you will be staying in Lisbon and it will give you a concert listing. As for the Hot Clube yes they are open and you can find their website here: http://www.hcp.pt/calendariogeral.asp Hope this helps, Cheers, Fernando --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 08:23:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39248-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3480 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:23:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 3469 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:23:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:23:07 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pcmcia soundcards In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zFKU1SEufY+e5hBBfuoXWQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k//f40xKJTIC1DHaGx0ub0wt5cjI3mLJjpzep+R7RtFkBmIBf6nUtbpDWBEiBqPGszK5P9OcJJB/pffZiLh8l2iWzFmUjj0qOEtl/j+JXavQjgPsl8lA+Ltd1d1wnJmx5R+ySDSCPS0ZLiL17la2A36Pj02iR82cmAi0RC8ozgA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_zFKU1SEufY+e5hBBfuoXWQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit make sure you're using the latest drivers, that should fix it. On 6/27/06, jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > is there a separate driver for asio? i often get a > error reading that says the program failed to open the > audio device when i designate it for asio. this only > happens (and not all the time) when i use asio > setting. it never happens when i use dx setting. any > ideas what is happening there? > > --- cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > > > what affects the latency of thekeyboard are the > > drivers. use asio for best > > performance. > > > > On 6/24/06, Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > On 23/06/06, Derek <xx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > wrote: > > > > I had a indego IO, worked greate > > > > But no midi, fast n clean. > > > > > > > > > > i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does > > it affect the > > > latency of a usb keyboard? > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > cHristian negre i walczak > > -- > > +34 69 76 69 009 > > skype: applejux > > -- > > www.applejux.tk > > www.op3n.net > > www.minifu.com > > -- > > www.dancepress.es/trax > > www.culturanocturna.com > > > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Tue Jun 27 08:18:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39247-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1550 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:18:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 1540 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:18:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] test In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XK0g4XNueYPI9VdbPGFobqrYsdB887DmNfYroT5ugcpyTjmuDXuDnQlSJDm1MAoP+FLJ5G+oqzTjWXJaAyjpv5IK7uqBOTr2V7zGd0QeFa/ePTE9LKf7Pu+raUDVxTtlePy6d+wGs/JHTF/q3cDfGvW3RWaf7T213Sy4zZIGP0I= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx only a test j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 27 07:54:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39246-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93826 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:54:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 93810 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:54:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:47:19 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pcmcia soundcards In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=T9jcm5sMFl1uAbmii5enCkf/bfY/kIbjxcKll7gArIgXQCd5yOmvmxkX2xZvQV+zLU/erJ+uHQ6iBNsUcs6GfkR8oNN/3IxSdJgeBRnh9h09spek9Q+cA81q43GjQm3EVa5mzTiHerM/y4x2c9vAqtfPpabStXnLjRi4t6+CsPc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx is there a separate driver for asio? i often get a error reading that says the program failed to open the audio device when i designate it for asio. this only happens (and not all the time) when i use asio setting. it never happens when i use dx setting. any ideas what is happening there? --- cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > what affects the latency of thekeyboard are the > drivers. use asio for best > performance. > > On 6/24/06, Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > > > > On 23/06/06, Derek <xx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > > > I had a indego IO, worked greate > > > But no midi, fast n clean. > > > > > > > i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does > it affect the > > latency of a usb keyboard? > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > -- > -- > cHristian negre i walczak > -- > +34 69 76 69 009 > skype: applejux > -- > www.applejux.tk > www.op3n.net > www.minifu.com > -- > www.dancepress.es/trax > www.culturanocturna.com > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 27 07:27:01 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39245-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86005 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:26:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 85995 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:26:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:26:50 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] spank the plank or platter (was) Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=asAtjh45mq7FN5EhCwB4vHhmZ5RM/rsxET40FnA7LKo7O+iwRK4pAdRCvw1nndmMWFyr9iN2UIyMP6jf7nNJ5Dqm0+/G5Fx8dACgWq0RqgJa4bndeXY5YgQfu1FfIPFZhXmF+teY0FZNsN7X6244Y9Z0Qi2FJ88nioPHlls0+m4= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the material for bruce russell's recent release "21st Century Field Hollers and Prison Songs" (available at www.mattin.org) uses the material originally released on the "a bruit secret" cd for further manipulation in the "dub" experimental domain. the booklet given to me by mattin states it is published in coo-operation with ekskubalauron press, 2006. the text is debatable but interesting: "...the blues were literally made by the recording process...For the Bluesman the long road from plantation to obscurity to international fame was first marked out with 78 sides and later singles and albums. I know plnety of rock musicians who have meausured their days on earth in exactly this way, between records." --Bruce Russell the stance might be appealing to post-capitalists, post-modernists and archaeologists. on this list we have heard that "folk music is a discourse". i dont neccessarily disagree. but to take bruce one step backward, as his title suggests, i.e. one step backward in the history of blues (while his recording of his "recording" takes one step forward into dub--which sounds more scaheffer than tubby to me) begs the question: if the blues was entertainment industry music then what of prison songs? what of remoteness, incarceration, loneliness, slavery? is there no feeling that preceded the blues? is the feeling we associate with blues an affect of recording only? were there no field for the field hollers---just scratchy grooves of a smithsonian lp? in this respect take Tetuzi Akiyama's "don't forget to boogie" --where he uses tape delayed guitar, also a comment on the use of history. he has a choice when to turn on or turn off the proceedings of "history" (i.e. the recording process) and when he recorded the original takes he had a friend turn the machine on and off. is it the comment on the recording process that itself makes it "microsound"? it is a big question that takers on the "identifiction" of microsound itself. is history (a recording) made with erasures or with memories? sampling itself is always a record of a data transaction. is all granular "ideology" available to you in the turntable or tape-machine? i'd like to hear some comments on this. j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Jun 27 04:01:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39244-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32803 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:01:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 32793 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:01:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:54:37 -0400 From: xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This is a very interesting question -- one I hadn't previously spent more than isolated moments "thinking" about. I think the 60 minute album length is, for the most part, a marketing ploy. "Over an hour of music" screams the sticker! And as others have already pointed out, all too often the hour has many, many minutes of filler. On the other hand, I have more than a few 70+ minute CDs that end all too soon for my ears. I'll weigh in on the side of those who feel an album (or EP or single) is done when it feels like everything it needs is already there -- no matter what the time length. Also, I love the concept of multiple hour CD/DVD lengths, and the "release early, release often" concept has merit too. =j= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 03:47:00 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39243-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27523 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:46:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 27502 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:46:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:46:55 -0400 From: Steve Bates <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: electro-acoustic blues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, I'm on the digest so this reply is a little delayed... Bruce Russell (acoustic guitar, vocal, analogue tape treatments, mixing and composition) also released a fantastic cd with contributions from Ralf Wehowsky (sitar, digital sound processing) on A Bruit Secret called "Midnight Crossroads Tape Recorder Blues". www.abruitsecret.com/ It's a very personal response to blues music and attempts to make links between electro-acoustic music and blues, primarily their somewhat shared relationship to recording technology in the 20th century. Includes extensive liner notes from the always interesting and entertaining Bruce Russell. best, steve ...-...::..:-_.....-...::.._.....-...::..:-_.....-.:..:-_. steve bates xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx (514) 270-7919 ...-...::..:-_.....-...::.._.....-...::..:-_.....-.:..:-_. On 24-Jun-06, at 3:44 PM, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads Message-ID: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> just remembered this new release on his netlabel www.mattin.org (but he gave me hard copy version, nice booklet) by bruce russel: "21st century field hollers and prison songs" --- Björn Eriksson <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Tetuzi Akiyama > > /Björn > >> can anyOne onList point me towards projects that > exist @ intersections of >> microsound, digital signal processing, electro- > acoustics ++ blues musics? >> >> thnx in adv >> >> // jonCates > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 27 02:31:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39242-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3562 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:31:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 3551 invoked from network); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:31:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:20:21 -0700 From: Trevor Mcpherson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Nancarrow MIDIs ? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (line 126, weight -20) X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: "Not supporting xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx" X-Declude-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx [10.100.40.227] X-Declude-Spoolname: D95d831bd037c5894.SMD X-Note: Email was scanned by AE's anti-spam system in MX2 server. X-Note: This E-mail was sent from (Private IP) ([10.100.40.227]). X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is -19. X-Spam-Tests-Failed: MYFILTER [-20], NOPOSTMASTER [1] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Installation artist Trimpin has midi files of Nancarrow. There's no website, and I'm not sure about email for him. Best bet is the Seattle phone book. trev Jonas Jurkunas wrote: > Hi microsounders, > > We are about to organize a mechanic MIDI piano > concert, during "Jauna muzika" festival next year. > > Obviously, C. Nancarrow's pieces are a must for this > instrument to perform. > > Do you happen to know, where we could get MIDI > versions of Mr. Nancarrow's music for player piano? > > Regards, > Jonas > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 23:26:50 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39241-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37618 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:26:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 37597 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:26:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:28:47 +0200 From: Casaluce-Geiger <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] synusi@: a text between the pages and the Net. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004501c69978$460ab570$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_X5NA9NRwCRUd7nsun1bKbg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_X5NA9NRwCRUd7nsun1bKbg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Casaluce-Geiger Synusi@: a text between the pages and the Net. A video-installation for La Capitale Mondiale del Libro Torino, Atrium, Piazza Solferino 21-27 giugno 2006 Active between Italy and Austria, Casaluce-Geiger has explored the territories of the Self giving life to synusi@, a multidimensional figure, a desiring virus that unexpectedly appears and disappears in different contexts and through different expressive media. Like the character of Mystica in the comic X-Men, Synusi@ can assume various forms and dimensions pointing at different objects before substituting, imitating and, sometimes, deriding them; such an artificial creature is better defined by the word ‘cyborg’ and embodies the nature of an ‘artifice’ in its original sense through the re-creation of new meanings and the extrapolation of details from the context. Passing through a web performance at the Biennale in Venice, a presence in an important Belgian Museum, and the personification of an unusual journalist for the magazine Drome -in a confrontation with the artist Cattelan, synusi@ re-works the Self as a text composed by a series of allusive stratifications; such an artifice which has a natural tendency to baroque is created through the juxtaposition of heterogeneous images merging in a sort of book composed by many others. Among the most important projects, there are From the pages of my diary, hosted live in the Atelier Augarten at the Belvedere Museum in Vienna and the often-anthologized image -a joyful, but, at the same time, unsettling self-portrait of the artist in men’s clothes playing a shaving posture- in which Casaluce-Geiger is critically engaged with others’ textures, including the allusive figuration of the Italian artist Betty Bee. For the 2006 edition of La Capitale del Libro, Casaluce-Geiger presents two different visual projects: a video-installation showing some of Synusi@’s raids and intrusions and a personal anthology of images about the artist’s research work. In conclusion, Synusi@ keeps a diary of a reality in movement, a Self which is reluctant to be constrained and is, conversely, eager to explore all possible new dimensions between words and images, in search of a dialogical community composed of famous artists as, for example, Derrick de Kerkhove and Patrick Tuttofuoco. Luca Scarlini --Boundary_(ID_X5NA9NRwCRUd7nsun1bKbg)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 23:19:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39240-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34687 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:19:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 34667 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:19:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:19:09 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] recordings of your music/visuals In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Damian Stewart wrote: > hey frank, whoops, didn't mean to send that there.. hehe -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 22:55:01 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39239-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25103 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:54:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 25091 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:54:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:54:06 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] recordings of your music/visuals In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey frank, i've noticed you seem to be using pd for minimal techno kind of purposes -- especially with synched visuals -- but i'm having some trouble finding any sets/tracks/(ideally)videos of anything you've done -- save for an amazing looking video on the generatorx website. point me in the right direction? cheers proto-fan d :-) -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 21:26:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39238-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82882 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:26:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 82867 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:26:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:15:15 -0700 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002801c69965$bbe6a780$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the music of Stephen Vitiello is some of the deepest and most satisfying using both digital instruments, organic instruments, and field recordings. robert horton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin McCoy" <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings > Hi Paul, > > You may want to check out some of Stephen Vitiello's music as well - > he does the same thing a lot of the time and his output is pretty > good, I think. > > Kevin > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 19:40:14 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39237-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:40:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25887 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:39:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 25876 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:39:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:33:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonas Jurkunas <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Nancarrow MIDIs ? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nSZw6jtz+/i6OJCX1BAvUEIrM1q2tpzwkXolqhABxRqDOOX2fjc1ryuYpK5ZXZ/vAqDQG6lyFZJYPMx3GgQgT2Ix47uchCFFC99I2BL4WO2zf2jaBIOVftktsKvxpFdi6i/Kj3d9mZMVmHCk/Ubux9xiAs/QfWijeQVOc8p99bw= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi microsounders, We are about to organize a mechanic MIDI piano concert, during "Jauna muzika" festival next year. Obviously, C. Nancarrow's pieces are a must for this instrument to perform. Do you happen to know, where we could get MIDI versions of Mr. Nancarrow's music for player piano? Regards, Jonas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 17:11:20 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39236-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42542 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:09:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 20638 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:51:52 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:51:43 -0500 From: Gregory Taylor <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-ORBL: [70.226.157.125] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Never gave it much thought - I'm more an "is" than a "should" person, I suppose. In terms of recordings to release, I have tended to focus strongly on complete live sets, no overdubs, etc. - the recent c74 release is right about 45 minutes because that was the time frame I was given by our mutual friend Derek Holzer. As it happened, there wasn't much sign during the performance that the audience was restive, so I didn't cut it short. That particular iteration seemed worth "going to the wall" for, so it was that long. Other things are longer, some shorter. <aside borne of the idea of linking length to a real event> I expect that many of you don't think of constructing things in this manner, since some of you probably don't do much live work. I would encourage you to consider it; I think that there are a large number of kinds of engagement with an audience that don't involve pandering, that there's no real substitute for personal contact, and that you may discover in practice that a sufficiently engaging performance may actually trump the expectations of "entertainment" in terms of presentation (i.e., an audience can actually tell how hard you're working on your interface of choice). Perhaps not always, of course - but enough to be worthwhile, I think. </aside> And then you can collect that work until you think it's "right" [after all, you do get to make that choice. So little is yours to decide in the world, you might as well enjoy as many decisions as you can] and release it. With luck, DIY means that you're free to reconsider all kinds of expectations - length of work, presentation, and so on. Your mileage may vary. gregory P.S. 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Just go to http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository/, click Login and then Register. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ On 6/26/06, laszlo qu'est-ce que ça peut bien vous faire de connaître mon nom de fa <xxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi, > > I asked you a password for the microsound hotline and server a few days > ago... > What about it ? > > thanks > > Laszlo > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 14:45:39 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39234-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15984 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:45:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 15974 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:45:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:42:09 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0C5BEE1.28C3%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be Thread-index: AcaZLrPB8kK5cgUhEduPUgARJHLkrA== X-Authenticated-Sender-Id: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Am 26.6.2006 14:33 Uhr schrieb "cHristian negre i walczak" unter <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > hi again peeps, > > i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical > media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you ralph > explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind. i can only speak for myself, but i have far more physical media then "digital audio". christian, i haven't stated that a) you have a narrow view and b) i also haven't stated that having more digital media is wrong. all i'm saying is that with "digital audio" you have the possibility of deleting single tracks and "taking apart" a work in itself into different sections (or tracks). if you listen to something and then decide which tracks from an album you're going to keep and which not, then you're basing your decision making on what your approach to that particular music is at that particular time... that's what i meant with narrowing the view down... as i explained before i often rediscover tracks which are older and suddenly i like them alot because out of whatever reason. if i would have decided earlier on to delete that track i would never have the possibility of redescovering things. also in my opinion, it's very important why tracks are on one album and why they are sequenced as they are and why they have a certain length, etc. i would never rearrange tracks of an album in a different order or change the flow of that... if it doesn't fit right together then it's not a good album. pretty simple... > one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when the > artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed > among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind its > main objective. > > i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and > listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic > feeling towards music. > > as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but not > so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived > with them. > > have a nice day! -- http://www.synchron.ch .:.::.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 14:02:35 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39233-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3297 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:02:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 3287 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:02:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:02:25 -0400 From: "\\js" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UtpYcKZ6vKNpu2GRMp62Gc/DupkukwN1P8Km3WvXYZdwLFjmGee+tBxHCh2ZQdLn/rY/Jo1NYmCVxJAlOCQ/ce0jTcLmWH6G3Hj50XPfz1krdO/ctG0U6ZG1x3n74vQkzNxtG3wnd+j8v46ihgRapDJiGaU3zCd7650qtPFdRRQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Also as more material becomes available on a track by track > basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old > medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you think? depends on the project. i think the 60 mins you're thinking about is a result of how music was packaged more than anything intrinsic in the music. sun ra and arkestra, the greatful dead, fela kuti and other groups of improvising musicians could play 4 hours or more. i think that is a more 'natural' timeframe than 1 hour. and now, for myself, i find short forms much more welcoming than long ones. i sometimes gather these smaller pieces into collections, usually by date of creation; but that is more for organizing them than making them part of the same project. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 13:40:36 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39232-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95110 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:40:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 95100 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:40:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:40:25 -0500 From: Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ct8VnJy78/0gQyHQhyQbPu6huK5KqppSC4xm/bTEEHlBlOnag8zfR36TJZlGmLJloa3oFG0DP8+Xl53URMhNXlQ3I/lP54+4hglWNni8MoHfW9rdMQiN1dMrDNfYmYKF/AaE29R352GMO53HVxrSsPXPPj0bfzax6uOjGLTOchI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Paul, You may want to check out some of Stephen Vitiello's music as well - he does the same thing a lot of the time and his output is pretty good, I think. Kevin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 12:53:09 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39231-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80188 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:52:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 80178 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:52:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:52:52 +0100 From: Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2006 12:52:55.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[71B71E60:01C6991F] Dear All I meant digital how cHristian says...I was curious at how older technology still influences how newer technology is used, not least by myself! Paul >From: "cHristian negre i walczak" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:33:28 +0200 > >hi again peeps, > >i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical >media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you >ralph >explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind. > >one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when >the >artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed >among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind >its >main objective. > >i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and >listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic >feeling towards music. > >as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but >not >so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived >with them. > >have a nice day! > > > >On 6/26/06, steinbrüchel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: >> >>and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;) >> >>when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title >>of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down >>view of format... >> >>thank you, >>ralph. >> >> >>Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter >><xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>: >> >> > here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below: >> > >> > in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first >> > are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks >> > that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest >> > up over time. >> > >> > also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never >> > throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might >> > change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view >> > of sound and music... >> > >> > my 5 rappen, >> > ralph. >> > >> > >> > Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter >> > <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>: >> > >> >> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format... >> >> >> >> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the >> >> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;) >> >> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are >> >> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts >> >> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more >> >> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of >> >> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good'). there is >>subsequently >> >> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which >> >> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'. >> >> >> >> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is >> >> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not >> >> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute >>4 >> >> track EP of top quality punk is also ok! >> >> >> >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote: >> >> >> >>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep >> >>> tracks i >> >>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an >> >>> album, so >> >>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps >> >>> are a >> >>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. >> >>> >> >>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> This is probably an old debate... >> >>>> >> >>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be >> >>>> complete >> >>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to >> >>>> an >> >>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the >> >>>> distribution >> >>>> and >> >>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For >> >>>> example, on >> >>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few >> >>>> things >> >>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track >>by >> >>>> track >> >>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an >>old >> >>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you >> >>>> think? >> >>>> Will >> >>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration >> >>>> depending on >> >>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is >> >>>> 60 >> >>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length? >> >>>> >> >>>> Paul >> >>>> >> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >> >>>> Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free >> >>>> newsletters! >> >>>> http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> >>>> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> -- >> >>> cHristian negre i walczak >> >>> -- >> >>> +34 69 76 69 009 >> >>> skype: applejux >> >>> -- >> >>> www.applejux.tk >> >>> www.op3n.net >> >>> www.minifu.com >> >>> -- >> >>> www.dancepress.es/trax >> >>> www.culturanocturna.com >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >>-- >>http://www.synchron.ch .:.::.:. >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > >-- >-- >cHristian negre i walczak >-- >+34 69 76 69 009 >skype: applejux >-- >www.applejux.tk >www.op3n.net >www.minifu.com >-- >www.dancepress.es/trax >www.culturanocturna.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! http://join.msn.com/toolbar/overview --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 12:33:42 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39230-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74844 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:33:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 74821 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:33:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:33:28 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <C0C59966.28B6%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LPSnXQED4+JmRGxxLxxZ8g)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U/LpMru5wRnRrclcAFhv4Icw3KvLjPZvei/UO+IX6wcN86Xnhen2fz6z4RGm9r4ql1u0BL3BJcG3DNZDGeuc0a3N5doQj0H8HZiwu8DXhrEQdDwi6gEOpR+f3wfqj5wjB3Oqkdr9IFc5qLHB9nFbGPyazJMfeKYW+r8V3jhEQxA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <C0C5975A.28B2%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <C0C59966.28B6%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LPSnXQED4+JmRGxxLxxZ8g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi again peeps, i understood the title digital as audio which doesn't depend on physical media and i even dare to think that's what most have, right? could you ralph explain why is it a narrow view? do please help me open my mind. one of the most important moments in the history of photography was when the artists decided to forget the reality. that is when a machine developed among a century to 'capture' and 'freeze' the world suddenly left behind its main objective. i imagine i'm a victim of our hedonist days and hardly ever go back and listen to older music. that's why i don't care much about the romantic feeling towards music. as everyone has, i have some song which are kept deeply in my heart, but not so much because of the quality of the music but for the experiences lived with them. have a nice day! On 6/26/06, steinbrüchel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;) > > when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title > of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down > view of format... > > thank you, > ralph. > > > Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>: > > > here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below: > > > > in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first > > are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks > > that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest > > up over time. > > > > also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never > > throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might > > change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view > > of sound and music... > > > > my 5 rappen, > > ralph. > > > > > > Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter > > <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>: > > > >> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format... > >> > >> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the > >> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;) > >> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are > >> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts > >> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more > >> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of > >> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good'). there is subsequently > >> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which > >> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'. > >> > >> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is > >> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not > >> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4 > >> track EP of top quality punk is also ok! > >> > >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote: > >> > >>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep > >>> tracks i > >>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an > >>> album, so > >>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps > >>> are a > >>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. > >>> > >>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> This is probably an old debate... > >>>> > >>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be > >>>> complete > >>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to > >>>> an > >>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the > >>>> distribution > >>>> and > >>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For > >>>> example, on > >>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few > >>>> things > >>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track > by > >>>> track > >>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an > old > >>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you > >>>> think? > >>>> Will > >>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration > >>>> depending on > >>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is > >>>> 60 > >>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length? > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free > >>>> newsletters! > >>>> http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>>> website: http://www.microsound.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -- > >>> cHristian negre i walczak > >>> -- > >>> +34 69 76 69 009 > >>> skype: applejux > >>> -- > >>> www.applejux.tk > >>> www.op3n.net > >>> www.minifu.com > >>> -- > >>> www.dancepress.es/trax > >>> www.culturanocturna.com > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > > -- > http://www.synchron.ch .:.::.:. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_LPSnXQED4+JmRGxxLxxZ8g)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 12:05:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39229-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 67843 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:05:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 67827 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:05:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:02:14 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <C0C5975A.28B2%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0C59966.28B6%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be Thread-index: AcaZFyRcYsVTqwUKEduPUgARJHLkrAAAThVq X-Authenticated-Sender-Id: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx and the question above all to start a really big discussion ;) when is an album "digital" or what makes it "digital"? the title of this topic (in my opinion) already suggests a narrowed down view of format... thank you, ralph. Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "steinbrüchel" unter <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx>: > here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below: > > in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first > are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks > that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest > up over time. > > also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never > throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might > change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view > of sound and music... > > my 5 rappen, > ralph. > > > Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter > <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>: > >> i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format... >> >> i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the >> tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;) >> although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are >> able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts >> of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more >> artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of >> really good stuff... (of course what is 'good'). there is subsequently >> less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which >> almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'. >> >> another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is >> working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not >> a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4 >> track EP of top quality punk is also ok! >> >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote: >> >>> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep >>> tracks i >>> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an >>> album, so >>> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps >>> are a >>> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. >>> >>> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is probably an old debate... >>>> >>>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be >>>> complete >>>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to >>>> an >>>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the >>>> distribution >>>> and >>>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For >>>> example, on >>>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few >>>> things >>>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by >>>> track >>>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old >>>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you >>>> think? >>>> Will >>>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration >>>> depending on >>>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is >>>> 60 >>>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length? >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free >>>> newsletters! >>>> http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> cHristian negre i walczak >>> -- >>> +34 69 76 69 009 >>> skype: applejux >>> -- >>> www.applejux.tk >>> www.op3n.net >>> www.minifu.com >>> -- >>> www.dancepress.es/trax >>> www.culturanocturna.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> -- http://www.synchron.ch .:.::.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 11:49:33 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39227-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62724 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:49:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 62712 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:49:24 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:53:34 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Duncan_=D3_Ceallaigh?= <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx login:aea3699b8720c59f5a5277b5e3db004e X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format... i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;) although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of really good stuff... (of course what is 'good'). there is subsequently less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'. another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4 track EP of top quality punk is also ok! On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote: > from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep > tracks i > didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an > album, so > the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps > are a > more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. > > On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >> >> This is probably an old debate... >> >> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be >> complete >> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to >> an >> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the >> distribution >> and >> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For >> example, on >> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few >> things >> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by >> track >> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old >> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you >> think? >> Will >> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration >> depending on >> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is >> 60 >> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length? >> >> Paul >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free >> newsletters! >> http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > -- > -- > cHristian negre i walczak > -- > +34 69 76 69 009 > skype: applejux > -- > www.applejux.tk > www.op3n.net > www.minifu.com > -- > www.dancepress.es/trax > www.culturanocturna.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 11:56:36 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39228-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64927 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:56:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 64917 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:56:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:53:30 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0C5975A.28B2%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be Thread-index: AcaZFyRcYsVTqwUKEduPUgARJHLkrA== X-Authenticated-Sender-Id: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx here a short reply to the comment christian negre made below: in my experience the tracks that i liked most on the album at first are rarely those that i go back to years later. mostly the tracks that i didn't really like at first are the ones that keep my interest up over time. also my personnel taste of music changes a lot so i would never throw away a track i didn't like at a particular time as this might change... i think this approach narrows down the personnel view of sound and music... my 5 rappen, ralph. Am 26.6.2006 13:53 Uhr schrieb "Duncan Ó Ceallaigh" unter <xxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>: > i think the ep is really good, and sadly neglected format... > > i too tend only to buy cds of albums where i like a majority of the > tracks... which means i have comparatively few cds ;) > although it's basically a value judgment, i think very few artists are > able to consistently release 'album' length (i.e. 40-70mins) amounts > of top-notch material, and i would personally find it better if more > artists where prepared to whittle down their releases to 20-30 mins of > really good stuff... (of course what is 'good'). there is subsequently > less pressure to get 10-12 tracks ready for any given deadline, which > almost inevitably leads to notorious 'album filler'. > > another factor regards length of projects is the area in which one is > working - obviously a good ambient track can go on forever, so why not > a 3 hour, 4 track ep? ;) on the other end of the spectrum, a 6 minute 4 > track EP of top quality punk is also ok! > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 12:47 PM, cHristian negre i walczak wrote: > >> from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep >> tracks i >> didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an >> album, so >> the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps >> are a >> more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. >> >> On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >>> >>> This is probably an old debate... >>> >>> I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be >>> complete >>> when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to >>> an >>> "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the >>> distribution >>> and >>> consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For >>> example, on >>> my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few >>> things >>> I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by >>> track >>> basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old >>> medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you >>> think? >>> Will >>> we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration >>> depending on >>> the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is >>> 60 >>> minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length? >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free >>> newsletters! >>> http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> cHristian negre i walczak >> -- >> +34 69 76 69 009 >> skype: applejux >> -- >> www.applejux.tk >> www.op3n.net >> www.minifu.com >> -- >> www.dancepress.es/trax >> www.culturanocturna.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- http://www.synchron.ch .:.::.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 11:01:53 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39226-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51424 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:01:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 51414 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:01:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:01:39 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mail-followup-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hallo, cHristian negre i walczak hat gesagt: // cHristian negre i walczak wrote: > from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep tracks i > didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an album, so > the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps are a > more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. I also think, that in the Podcast age, single-track releases will become more common as well, similar to the "release early, release often" mantra of open source developement. This doesn't have to have a bad influence on quality (rushed releases etc.) as one could expect. I think, it may also be interesting to see a work evolve. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 10:47:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39225-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46985 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:47:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 46972 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:47:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:47:07 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hpa7zz4A66OBw8AGfBjWkw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ny2z1oSO+wMJnPNZae2xVOyvbHI+mI92Oav7uPIu8tVLRuoZdllX1dC5B9I5Nik8BUMqvYqbwy9uwij5f2nYm/2Qw6pV+HlnISg0vSqk1U9JXUKWPS+RFWkNX9PQm2vq9yyVy//GVoByDksKfJz7CqSD4Jw/yS04IOMC5V8YFr8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_hpa7zz4A66OBw8AGfBjWkw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit from my experience, i once decide, many years ago, i wouldn't keep tracks i didn't like. therefore, i usually just save a few tracks from an album, so the 'album' concept has been erased from my vocabulary. i think eps are a more fair format for todays hurry. my 5 cents. On 6/26/06, Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > > This is probably an old debate... > > I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be complete > when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to an > "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the distribution > and > consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For example, on > my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few things > I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by > track > basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old > medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you think? > Will > we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration depending on > the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). 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Mon Jun 26 10:42:10 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39224-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44813 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:42:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 44803 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:41:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:41:49 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?bGFzemxvIHF1J2VzdC1jZSBxdWUg52EgcGV1dCBiaWVuIHZvdXMgZmFp?= =?iso-8859-1?B?cmUgZGUgY29ubmHudHJlIG1vbiBub20gZGUgZmE=?= <xxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] password In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [87.65.178.114] X-Sender: xxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2006 10:41:51.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[2215DAC0:01C6990D] Hi, I asked you a password for the microsound hotline and server a few days ago... What about it ? thanks Laszlo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 09:56:50 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39223-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32187 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:56:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 32177 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:56:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:56:37 +0100 From: Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] How long should a "digital" album be X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2006 09:56:40.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[D265FAB0:01C69906] This is probably an old debate... I notice that when I'm working on a project it always seems to be complete when I've about 60 mins of material. This is obviously conforming to an "album" length based on the storage space on a CD. But the distribution and consumption of music now seems to be more "digital" based. For example, on my MP3 player I have say 40% of one album, 70% of another and a few things I've downloaded. Also as more material becomes available on a track by track basis, the 60 minute album seem more like a convention based on an old medium. What should be the "natural" length of a project, do you think? Will we move to a scenario where projects have their own duration depending on the individual ( maybe several minutes, maybe several hours). Or is 60 minutes or so ingrained in our consciousness as the "right" length? Paul _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 09:43:47 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39222-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28469 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:43:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 28458 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:43:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:43:30 +0100 From: Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2006 09:43:35.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE5A0870:01C69904] Thanks everyone who mailed links etc; I now have a load of research to do! Paul >From: "Paul Buckley-Jennings" <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings Date: >Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:04:17 +0100 > >Hello! > >After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical >musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've recently >discovered some joy and success in processing field recordings (mine and >others) using tools like Audacity and any Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my >hands on. The only thing I really know about this field is Francisco Lopez >apparently does something similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique >and are there any good resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites with >similar materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My approach >is to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and layer with >other recordings. > >Thanks in advance > >Paul > >_________________________________________________________________ >Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! >http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 09:01:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39221-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 05:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89778 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:59:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 50965 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:13:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:12:54 +0100 From: Jozif Goodwin <xxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] reminder: no posting announcements to the microsound list In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: Terrapinn MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcaX8Ap05jfXUm8LTw+a+6bZsaBVaABCEP3g X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well said -----Original Message----- From: Kim Cascone [mailto:xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: 25 June 2006 01:38 To: microsound_list Subject: [microsound] reminder: no posting announcements to the microsound list in April 2005 (over a year ago now) we instituted a 'NO ANNOUNCEMENTS and NO CROSS-POSTING to the microsound list' policy no announcements means: no cd releases, no calls for works, no concert info, etc. etc.; in other words NOTHING PROMOTIONAL! it is understandable that n00bs will invariably discover this policy by posting an announcement and then receiving an email slap on the wrist from me... no big deal as these people usually respond with an polite apology -- no big deal, end of story. but when a long-term member posts an announcement to the main list it means you don't bother to read the list... i.e., you demonstrate that you use the list for your own purposes and have little interest in contributing to it. this behavior is not in the spirit of the list. the microsound list was set up for building a community, not to become a vehicle for self-promotion. if you need a place to post announcements and promotional communiques we set up another list called the microsound-announce list John Saylor graciously set up this other list for that purpose. if you go to the microsound web page you will find out how to sub to this other list all announcements and cross posting should find its way to the other list... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 07:41:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39220-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22993 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:40:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 85222 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:55:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:55:25 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pcmcia soundcards In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HzYc/lmj/BlXI7yRyTLh3w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bCl7Cjb2XV9C+F6l51IDQT5AV3DQAEHETCEm9oLnyOZNSiV12OzB5BV1EppQy8IDYDHC2dDfFrBeEM7+P2WEBJs9lsQ2n12GuyEua60OyKWiBA0Lh82tIdR15SK+O4DozlkMTiwfCfxsgCk4YbPDu8xnUHIjoLR1qKgB50Hopio= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000701c6970d$f68f3ff0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_HzYc/lmj/BlXI7yRyTLh3w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what affects the latency of thekeyboard are the drivers. use asio for best performance. On 6/24/06, Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On 23/06/06, Derek <xx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I had a indego IO, worked greate > > But no midi, fast n clean. > > > > i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does it affect the > latency of a usb keyboard? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_HzYc/lmj/BlXI7yRyTLh3w)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 07:28:38 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39219-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13849 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:27:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 80993 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:51:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:51:19 +0200 From: cHristian negre i walczak <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] blogger message In-reply-to: <004201c6987a$b932bce0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PIZc1yug8KeQwihdn/IujA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=O/8MowjwDRDw33w63IDA0pYBNx7IHv03yQbY8iukbZn8deHbEKpsoD6lm9aLI8+xs6AKuM8fuihMDXtSW/hVynL3nW8w4Omcsz6882mtqntrP94pwePwK9z7wd9E9o7s//+lEPNyZTcu1gwGzEpu4bqmB2UIjL1VZ+DL5yGG/G0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <004201c6987a$b932bce0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_PIZc1yug8KeQwihdn/IujA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit me too. but it seems to work anyway. On 6/25/06, David @ Audiobulb <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > > yes - i have received that message > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeff gburek" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:57 PM > Subject: [microsound] blogger message > > > > > > is anyone else on the list getting messages like this? > > > > > > "Blogger could not process your message at this time. > > > > Error code: 11.83A4B2 > > > > Original message: > > From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: [microsound] NOISE (excuse the > > non-promotional nature of this > > message) > > None" > > > > > > it has happened a few time now when i post to > > microsound. but then my posts go through > > nevertheless... > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > j.ff gbk > > > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > > > http://www.djalma.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- -- cHristian negre i walczak -- +34 69 76 69 009 skype: applejux -- www.applejux.tk www.op3n.net www.minifu.com -- www.dancepress.es/trax www.culturanocturna.com --Boundary_(ID_PIZc1yug8KeQwihdn/IujA)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 02:40:28 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39218-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86646 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:40:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 86635 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:40:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:40:01 -0700 From: Alan So <xxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Equipment Assistance SF Sound Series To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-ClamAntiVirus-Scanner: This mail is clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - silver.tritoncore.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - me-di-ate.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx To San Francisco Microsound: I am producing the 2nd season of The Soundwave>Series, an event series exploring sound in San Francisco and have run into a problem. A crucial sponsor back out and I have been scrambling to find equipment for the fast approaching upcoming shows happening in 2 weeks at The LAB. I am asking if any of you in the SF Bay Area might be able to help. We are in need of: 2 POWERED SPEAKERS (ACTIVE- MACKIE's PREFERRED) Needed for: THURSDAY JULY 6 to SATURDAY JULY 8 (THU-setup, FRI-SAT-performance) at The LAB SOUNDSPACE (a 6-speaker sound installation that will have the audience experience sound in an all-encompassing aural environment) This is a not-for-profit project with no budget and no funding. We have been able to put these shows together from sheer determination and the generosity of the community. It is a six speaker installation but are in need of just ONE MORE PAIR of ACTIVE SPEAKERS. More information on the event series: http://www.projectsoundwave.com/series Thank you so much for reading. Let me know if you or anyone you know that can offer any help. Please contact me at xxxx@xx-xx-xxx.xxx or 415 994 8935. Best Regards, Alan So, Director, ME'D1.ATE Network ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Upcoming: SOUNDWAVE>SERIES ((2)) June/July 2006 www.projectsoundwave.com/series ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ network: www.me-di-ate.net studio: www.alansostudio.com sound: www.projectsoundwave.com exhibit: www.meproject.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 26 01:03:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39217-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57698 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:03:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 57687 invoked from network); Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:03:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:03:13 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] "frequency map" for numerous areas of the brain To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_78f+nr/U+bC5fGUbng4NYQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_78f+nr/U+bC5fGUbng4NYQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060623215911.htm --Boundary_(ID_78f+nr/U+bC5fGUbng4NYQ)-- From ???@??? Sun Jun 25 22:30:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39216-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9680 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:30:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 9670 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:30:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:29:56 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OSC to MIDI In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Noel Peters wrote: > Does anyone on the list know of a PC OSC to MIDI conversion app? they don't readily 'convert' per se -- osc addressing is based on user-defined and theoretically limitless human-readable text, whereas midi addressing is streamlined and not easily extensible. having said that, if you know the kind of OSC messages you're receiving, and you know the MIDI data you want to send out, you could build something fairly easily using pd: www.puredata.info you'd want to look into the 'dumpOSC' object for receiving OSC messages, and dive into the midi tutorials for how to spit the data out as MIDI. -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 25 21:49:14 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39215-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94606 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:49:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 94596 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:49:06 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:48:54 +0200 From: Hans Erik Nilsson <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] OT: Ritz Club and Hot Clube in Lisbon? X-Sender: xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx (Unverified) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06110408c0c4b40fa150@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx HI, all! Does anybody know if the Ritz Club (on Rua da Gloria) and the Hot Clube (on Praca de Alegria) in Lisbon are open this summer? /Cheers, /Hans -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard disclaimer file active "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 25 17:13:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39214-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15537 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:13:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 15523 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:13:48 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:12:49 +0100 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] blogger message To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004201c6987a$b932bce0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yes - i have received that message ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff gburek" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: [microsound] blogger message > > is anyone else on the list getting messages like this? > > > "Blogger could not process your message at this time. > > Error code: 11.83A4B2 > > Original message: > From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: [microsound] NOISE (excuse the > non-promotional nature of this > message) > None" > > > it has happened a few time now when i post to > microsound. but then my posts go through > nevertheless... > > ? > > > > > > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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"Blogger could not process your message at this time. Error code: 11.83A4B2 Original message: From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [microsound] NOISE (excuse the non-promotional nature of this message) None" it has happened a few time now when i post to microsound. but then my posts go through nevertheless... ? j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 25 07:36:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39211-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9013 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:36:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 9003 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:36:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] NOISE (excuse the non-promotional nature of this message) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OkvPNHEs1MnYVKyEMFAyOgPU3DKWPJMhpPYoLYqKzqIRMnFbfH1I555mY87G07G5FRBzXM0zDUO85c5BPujJeTZ9n03WePR9GL2QGz0gxroQroNFcTmsaI3IklwkUf66W6wUUgxkilni7LYxXHs1JFupB/BXlyea6fzBubqX1iU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Theses on Noise I What the fuck is Noise? Precisely because of its indeterminacy noise is the most sensuous human activity / practice. To try to fix it or to make it a genre is as fucked up as believing in democracy. II If you make noise it is likely that somebody else is going to hear you, this means Noise is a social activity. III The capacity to make Noise is available to all, but its revolutionary potential comes from those who want to disturb the commodification of Noise - as M.A.N point out in their website www.mothersagainstnoise.us. IV To say “this is good Noise” or “that is bad Noise” is to miss the point. V Noise without meaning nor finality is revolutionary as long as it does not support anything or anybody. VI This is not to say that Noise under capitalism can be an autonomous activity. But if neither language nor bombs help you to destroy our reality, Noise helps us to get rid of our anxiety. VII It is more important to fuck the minds of the audience than to fuck your ears - and vice versa. VIII The identity process that occurs as people are making Noise must be constantly rejected. To be a “Noisician” is even more pathetic than to be a “musician”. IX Factory workers in the previous centuries have indirectly been the most sustained and brutal players of Noise. Recognition of our past should always be present. X Economic exploitation still occurs, even if now the production of Noise does not produce an object. The process of Noise making has in itself become the object of financial and symbolic market value. XI The old conception of noise was to believe in freedom, the new conception of Noise is to achieve freedom. Mattin 25th May 2006, London Anti-Copyright www.mattin.org j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Sun Jun 25 07:38:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39212-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10214 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:38:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 10204 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:38:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:31:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eIoobOdyPnmEpk7D+yDV+VkfIWG6/1JtXIc9l4/cy8XF7UjIDFBMZ24HLJ89G2Mv/8PZ6S7lfZDmCYWWrT4k94jMgaKxuJ3xBn8zLKoa7LvTf0OG9JIij0hJ+7uhCit0NkUrniRBMaJcPEvQFCw0813mO2sqUH89GzdXn9EbsSY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx thanks jorge, our extended memory process is putting things together. "redintegration", i think they call it. anyway, these texts are very nice. there area few lacunae because of typos but i trying to clear those up with paolo. http://www.binauralmedia.org/projects/survey/watson.html --- Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On Jun 24, 2006, at 1:03 AM, jeff gburek wrote: > > > > > try www.binaural.org . > i think this is the good link! > http://www.binauralmedia.org/projects/survey/watson.html > > > justino > aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound > P.O.Box 15953 > San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 > M-(415)-706-9629 http://anihilo.com > W-(415)-750-3517 http://ruidobello.org > Bogota, Colombia > M+57-311-452-9202 > Barcelona & UE > M+34-637-980-280 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Sun Jun 25 05:43:18 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39210-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84269 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:43:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 84257 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:43:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:36:23 -0300 From: Jason Carich <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Bruno Pronsato The River (Sr.Replicante BleepMix-last)] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bruno Pronsato - The River (Sr.Replicante BleepMix-last ) This is the latest version!!! I hope you like it ! .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . BLEEP STUFF FOR THE UNDERGROUND! Buenos Aires , Argentina , June 06. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . Here is the new link to download it: http://www.sendspace.com/file/u3lw60 Critics and suggestions are welcome ! Thanks a lot , Jason Carich aka Sr.Replicante. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 25 01:46:38 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39209-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31293 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:46:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 31235 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:46:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > --- Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > > After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical > > musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've > > recently discovered some joy and success in processing field > > recordings (mine and others) using tools like Audacity and any > > Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my hands on. The only thing I really > > know about this field is Francisco Lopez apparently does something > > similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique and are there any good > > resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites with similar > > materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My approach is > > to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and layer > > with other recordings. Hi Paul, No idea if you will find it relevant, but I've been working with field recordings via my own processes for a while; most things are documented on my site if you poke around. More to the point you might find 'quiet, please' in the 'related projects' section interesting; it collects interviews and monologs from various people who work with field recordings, but it's a few years old now. (The site is quietamerican.org, processed work is mostly filed under 'discography' and 'commissions.') Beware that I haven't posted any writing about process specifically yet, that's in the works but so is so much else... Btw if you haven't found it you might enjoy the phonography mailing list on Yahoo groups, it's specifically about aesthetically motivated approaches to field recording. Not everyone there is interested in composition, I'd say the core focus is simply on enjoying recordings as is, but there are plenty of people there who process/compose as well. Be sure to check out EarthEar.com and and-oar.org, both of which have extensive catalogs of work in this area. Finally if you're interested in the pre-history of this kind of work be sure to check out musique concerete: Luc Ferrari, Pierre Schaeffer, Pierre Henri, etc... the Archives GRM box set is a great primer. best regards, aaron PS please consider submitting a favorite recording sometime to: http://oneminutevacation.org xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 25 00:44:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39208-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16493 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:44:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 16481 invoked from network); Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:44:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:37:41 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] reminder: no posting announcements to the microsound list To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx in April 2005 (over a year ago now) we instituted a 'NO ANNOUNCEMENTS and NO CROSS-POSTING to the microsound list' policy no announcements means: no cd releases, no calls for works, no concert info, etc. etc.; in other words NOTHING PROMOTIONAL! it is understandable that n00bs will invariably discover this policy by posting an announcement and then receiving an email slap on the wrist from me... no big deal as these people usually respond with an polite apology -- no big deal, end of story. but when a long-term member posts an announcement to the main list it means you don't bother to read the list... i.e., you demonstrate that you use the list for your own purposes and have little interest in contributing to it. this behavior is not in the spirit of the list. the microsound list was set up for building a community, not to become a vehicle for self-promotion. if you need a place to post announcements and promotional communiques we set up another list called the microsound-announce list John Saylor graciously set up this other list for that purpose. if you go to the microsound web page you will find out how to sub to this other list all announcements and cross posting should find its way to the other list... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 24 19:44:53 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39207-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47255 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:44:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 47243 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:44:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:38:04 +0100 (BST) From: Steffan De Turck <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Review webzines In-reply-to: <000a01c69768$2b4f0630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VjhQTxw4rmRI4aVvMVW6PST6dRaeHU51RyOuALWRpPrbrU1FgrjlWy0yBOFqkwYhY3akAJ1i3yVR9jdiRclpjYuKhg1hyc9d322PFeSbNMTAfOlED6NEo5JjPnXJZsTwgQWDCVzWVTANwaLiqm7FrPJr+Wb5xAqtThLZh2RMwsw= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.earlabs.org is one I like a lot! Best, Steffan --- "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > What are the best resources on the web (or in print) > to read reviews on > microsound music? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 24 16:57:28 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39206-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2477 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:57:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 2467 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:57:21 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:55:59 -0700 From: Jorge Bachmann <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.tritoncore.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - anihilo.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Jun 24, 2006, at 1:03 AM, jeff gburek wrote: > > try www.binaural.org . i think this is the good link! http://www.binauralmedia.org/projects/survey/watson.html justino aka jorge bachmann sculpture-photography-sound P.O.Box 15953 San Francisco, CA 94115-0953 M-(415)-706-9629 http://anihilo.com W-(415)-750-3517 http://ruidobello.org Bogota, Colombia M+57-311-452-9202 Barcelona & UE M+34-637-980-280 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 24 14:55:10 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39205-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66852 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:55:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 66839 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:55:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:49:01 +0200 From: "david.microsuoni" <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Review webzines In-reply-to: <000a01c69768$2b4f0630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000a01c69768$2b4f0630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, here are some: vital weekly. http://www.vitalweekly.net ampersand http://ampersandetc.virtualave.net/ampersand.html grooves http://www.groovesmag.com/ incursion http://www.incursion.org/imr/index.html neural http://www.neural.it/ sands-zine http://www.sands-zine.com/ seven http://www.nezzwerk.com/seven/reviews/ brainwashed http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv04i17.html igloomag http://www.igloomag.com touching extremes http://spazioinwind.libero.it/extremes/touchinghome.htm david. http://www.microsuoni.com *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 24/06/2006 at 09:28 David @ Audiobulb wrote: >What are the best resources on the web (or in print) to read reviews on >microsound music? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 24 14:08:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39204-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:08:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55427 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:08:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 55411 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:08:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads In-reply-to: <004f01c69618$3c9495f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MvTClWBFWwdba+9zP1lW6nJ2bNtcp6scw0fAygA1PDb3az4ZsXA258/pHTgCeGbddL3hm21zLPNg4FFtmRanjZgtOI/qoVsP2+ttubnASZmdp/40YtmBaRbV9BFCTNBxH7cGwwZl2vUuC4wIodD9CPe/y75HaADjjNhmzj43/6w= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx just remembered this new release on his netlabel www.mattin.org (but he gave me hard copy version, nice booklet) by bruce russel: "21st century field hollers and prison songs" --- Björn Eriksson <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Tetuzi Akiyama > > /Björn > > > can anyOne onList point me towards projects that > exist @ intersections of > > microsound, digital signal processing, electro- > acoustics ++ blues musics? > > > > thnx in adv > > > > // jonCates > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Sat Jun 24 09:31:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39203-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89628 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:31:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 89617 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:31:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:31:33 +0100 From: Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pcmcia soundcards In-reply-to: <000701c6970d$f68f3ff0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ObB0PAWLkWHi7g7tYAUC4eHFTRjaZDBUIpw6+g1EDYknxuaet9EvX43TX4SlcLIKs/5o2Fx5VnrdsYtUrZOdSPjrJdpezTJzzTe9DNVRVBWcMxSjSLXAYyHm6bkf9bC8v1pNURit5k1ArxILowuNkeRsNiiMZUfQrVTDOekDpqo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000701c6970d$f68f3ff0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 23/06/06, Derek <xx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I had a indego IO, worked great. > But no midi, fast n clean. > i think i'll get one of them then, thanks. so does it affect the latency of a usb keyboard? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 24 08:28:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39202-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75851 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:28:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 75840 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:28:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:28:26 +0100 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Review webzines To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000a01c69768$2b4f0630$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx What are the best resources on the web (or in print) to read reviews on microsound music? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 24 08:10:10 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39201-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70083 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:09:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 70072 invoked from network); Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:09:58 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n7rr+xW9sT03EMkrXbBhXu+s+/2T/c8TmdyyzIxlGk1xrs+PPj7yfca9KhnR4LWOKMCG2kWLTGMlpV+q2k2pLGmHnsySnhiREwAafrTCmza1P6z5WgA/Pr9zEXxug1nRx0IchXTJstlV1WJtSqa19SyMsy8zXjy4cyFQ+OCA+Hc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx try www.binaural.org . there is a recent set of interviews there, including lopez, chris watson, yannick dauby and others who work in this way. also see www.futurevessel.com/orphansound --- Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Hello! > > After years of disappointment trying to make > music/sound from physical > musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi > instruments, I've recently > discovered some joy and success in processing field > recordings (mine and > others) using tools like Audacity and any > Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my > hands on. The only thing I really know about this > field is Francisco Lopez > apparently does something similar. Is this a > standard "digital" technique > and are there any good resources in terms of > tools/strategies or sites with > similar materials? Is anyone else here doing > something similar? My approach > is to take several minutes (usually) of material, > process it and layer with > other recordings. > > Thanks in advance > > Paul > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to > our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Fri Jun 23 21:43:10 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39200-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85315 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:43:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 85305 invoked from network); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:43:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:42:38 -0700 From: Derek <xx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] pcmcia soundcards In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000701c6970d$f68f3ff0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcaXA+1iWeyB62rGSGu2EWxeKi3nhgAB+ygw X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I had a indego IO, worked great. But no midi, fast n clean. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Worth [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:40 PM To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] pcmcia soundcards hi, i've decided i really don't like having to carry around an external box for quality audio, so i'm looking for a pcmcia soundcard. i just want 1 stereo in and 1 stereo out, very low latency for the audio in and midi (does the soundcard affect latency of usb devices?), and 24 bit and low noise etc. any recommendations for a tight budget? the only sub-£200 ones i can find are the echo indigo range, and sb audigy things, but i cant find reviews of either. thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 20:31:18 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39198-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56662 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:30:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 56649 invoked from network); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:30:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:30:41 +0100 From: Peter Worth <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pcmcia soundcard To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=OYHykblvwhATpIiShtjbyh84iHIACJ9/BzW3BSJAnkbdRNWUMqtaNDkeyhMs1fibSpJHjGO0VuZD+kDoH/a3gQWQYq0cOHhSigy2RqpgYhxlZNmAKZX+pJNYQrWAGXQbSoccfm/BqHu4jBKX7aPZAxjF9T4hyxCL9FtgJjNNsR8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, i've decided i really don't like having to carry around an external box for quality audio, so i'm looking for a pcmcia soundcard. i just want 1 stereo in and 1 stereo out, very low latency for the audio in and midi (does the soundcard affect latency of usb devices?), and 24 bit and low noise etc. any recommendations for a tight budget? the only sub-£200 ones i can find are the echo indigo range, and sb audigy things, but i cant find reviews of either. thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 12:13:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39197-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54432 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:13:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 54422 invoked from network); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:13:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:13:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c696be$61a40690$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You can follow the links over at www.phonography.org , especially "phonogaphers" and "links". You should be able to get some new information here if you're not already familiar with this site/community. Yours, Björn Eriksson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Buckley-Jennings" <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings > Hello! > > After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical > musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've recently > discovered some joy and success in processing field recordings (mine and > others) using tools like Audacity and any Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my > hands on. The only thing I really know about this field is Francisco Lopez > apparently does something similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique > and are there any good resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites > with similar materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My > approach is to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and > layer with other recordings. > > Thanks in advance > > Paul > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 12:04:31 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39196-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51463 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:04:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 51451 invoked from network); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:04:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:04:17 +0100 From: Paul Buckley-Jennings <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Good resources for Processed Field Recordings X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2006 12:04:20.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[28FE5620:01C696BD] Hello! After years of disappointment trying to make music/sound from physical musical instruments (guitars mostly) and midi instruments, I've recently discovered some joy and success in processing field recordings (mine and others) using tools like Audacity and any Nyquist/VST plug-in I can get my hands on. The only thing I really know about this field is Francisco Lopez apparently does something similar. Is this a standard "digital" technique and are there any good resources in terms of tools/strategies or sites with similar materials? Is anyone else here doing something similar? My approach is to take several minutes (usually) of material, process it and layer with other recordings. Thanks in advance Paul _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 04:39:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39195-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91295 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:39:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 91283 invoked from network); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:39:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:38:47 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OSC to MIDI In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Noel Peters wrote: > Does anyone on the list know of a PC OSC to MIDI conversion app? they don't readily 'convert' per se -- osc addressing is based on user-defined and theoretically limitless human-readable text, whereas midi addressing is streamlined and not easily extensible. having said that, if you know the kind of OSC messages you're receiving, and you know the MIDI data you want to send out, you could build something fairly easily using pd: www.puredata.info you'd want to look into the 'dumpOSC' object for receiving OSC messages, and dive into the midi tutorials for how to spit the data out as MIDI. -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 23 03:19:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39194-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58268 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:19:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 58257 invoked from network); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:19:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:19:30 +1000 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OSC to MIDI X-Originating-IP: [57.70.19.194] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Msg-Ref: server-26.tower-16.messagelabs.com!1151032773!58356588!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=pacterm.com,-,- X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Does anyone on the list know of a PC OSC to MIDI conversion app? 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Thu Jun 22 21:38:30 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39193-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14983 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:38:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 14972 invoked from network); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:38:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads In-reply-to: <004f01c69618$3c9495f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xaZxbq3OwBnOmkPkeLQK+4ACckzQvq4UaPyM6qnTnuoD1CJZZDyPV4Nhr1SGFJfV6on3GohlhZ6zkaQfCM/Ln9S0gIXft+g5LLDOjGJEs+a/kLtvk6i7QxJO4C9jsSzeSpO4gy02ojPqKph4PGsoeSbZX/KI9dPACSGrG019BG4= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i thought about tetuzi but i know he uses no computers in his music. he generally uses no pedals either or processors. when he plays with the blues feeling it is often without any of what i would call "crossover" intentions. it is music from feeling. i think this is why i didnt say check out my own material in this regard (yes, blues, but i dont think it is microsound for example). (just because you use e.gtr. doesnt mean it is electro acoustic). but i will offer this: a cd called "strands formerly braided" features a mix of players (keenan lawler, tom carter, matt mcdonell and mike tamburo) which really spans all the territory mentioned by the original poster. label: music fellowship (new haven) --- Björn Eriksson <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Tetuzi Akiyama > > /Björn > > > can anyOne onList point me towards projects that > exist @ intersections of > > microsound, digital signal processing, electro- > acoustics ++ blues musics? > > > > thnx in adv > > > > // jonCates > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Thu Jun 22 19:26:39 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39192-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39649 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:26:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 39516 invoked from network); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:26:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:24:48 -0700 From: Christopher Willits <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LISTEN 03 - listening event in Berkeley, CA. 6/23/06 . To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i hope all of you in the bay area can make it ! if so, make sure to say hello, cw -- LISTEN 03 Friday, June 23, 2006 (8:00 PM - 10:00 PM) Studio Rasa, 933 Parker St. Berkeley, CA, California 94710 Overlap.org Presents LISTEN 03 (the third installment). LISTEN is a new audio series that explores the art of intense listening. In collaboration with Audio Rasa and Overlap.org, Christopher Willits has commissioned * unreleased * sound works from an international pool of acclaimed contemporary sound makers. These unique recordings will be amplified within the beautiful Studio Rasa in Berkeley CA. Come prepared to tune in and zone out. LISTEN 03 will feature * unreleased * sound work from the following artists : Greg Davis - http://www.kranky.net/artists/davisg.html Gregg Kowalsky - http://ossobucco.net/ Keiichi Sugimoto - http://www.cubicmusic.com/english/frame.html Sawako - http://www.12k.com/sawako.html Hosted by Christopher Willits. Previous LISTEN events have featured unreleased recordings by Frank Bretschneider, Sebastien Roux, Taylor Deupree, Kenneth Kirschner, Strategy, Kenric Mcdowell, Richard Chartier, and Christopher Willits. $10 advance tickets, $12 at the door. Advanced tickets : Studio Rasa, 933 Parker St Berkeley, CA 94710 phone: 510.843.2787 xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Event Website: http://overlap.org/ http://upcoming.org/event/85327/ -- Next LISTEN event, LISTEN 04 will be on august 25th, same time/location. cw -- http://www.christopherwillits.com http://www.overlap.org -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 18:32:01 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39191-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 67227 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:31:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 67216 invoked from network); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:31:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:31:37 -0400 From: bruce tovsky <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads In-reply-to: <004f01c69618$3c9495f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jXP94tTeMfJ3kqc7kFxfaA)" X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <004f01c69618$3c9495f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_jXP94tTeMfJ3kqc7kFxfaA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit elliot sharp "the velocity of hue" On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: >> can anyOne onList point me towards projects that exist @ >> intersections of microsound, digital signal processing, electro- >> acoustics ++ blues musics? >> >> thnx in adv bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane." Philip K. Dick --Boundary_(ID_jXP94tTeMfJ3kqc7kFxfaA)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 16:48:54 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39190-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22529 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:48:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 22505 invoked from network); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:48:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:23:46 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004f01c69618$3c9495f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tetuzi Akiyama /Björn > can anyOne onList point me towards projects that exist @ intersections of > microsound, digital signal processing, electro- acoustics ++ blues musics? > > thnx in adv > > // jonCates --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 07:49:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39189-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13886 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:49:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 13876 invoked from network); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 07:49:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:41:16 +0200 From: nicola catalano <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v03110700c0bff982fc62@[151.28.125.1]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Ekkehard Ehlers- A Life Without Fear (Staubgold) > on a more rhythmic side also the conmpilation "blu tribunl" (inflatabl labl). + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "history is the earthly paradise of bourgeois spirituality." raoul vaneigem --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 22 01:13:39 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39188-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94712 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:13:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 94701 invoked from network); Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:13:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:13:20 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] crossingRoads In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.15.34 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=KmXFRWoZtaTFrS3GbOl9iLBeYuhTdSv5D8o2VyFbHOcr6CoQtkoEHgpczoDngQAk; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c26098e70f055783011704b3a8673762587c4666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Ekkehard Ehlers- A Life Without Fear (Staubgold) Here's a review: http://www.almostcool.org/mr/1739/ http://www.thewire.co.uk/web/mp3specials.php -bill http://chilowethiastoneindex.blogspot.com http://home.earthlink.net/~billjarboe/sapbb.html On Jun 21, 2006, at 4:10 PM, jonCates wrote: > can anyOne onList point me towards projects that exist @ intersections > of microsound, digital signal processing, electro-acoustics ++ blues > musics? > > thnx in adv > > // jonCates > # http://r4wb1t5.org > # http://criticalartware.net > # http://systemsapproach.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 21 23:33:36 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39187-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56767 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:33:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 56756 invoked from network); Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:33:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:10:26 -0500 From: jonCates <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] crossingRoads In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx can anyOne onList point me towards projects that exist @ intersections of microsound, digital signal processing, electro- acoustics ++ blues musics? thnx in adv // jonCates # http://r4wb1t5.org # http://criticalartware.net # http://systemsapproach.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 19 09:46:31 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39186-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88284 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:46:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 88267 invoked from network); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:46:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:46:08 +0000 From: Joseph Scott <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT: New online magazine dedicated to media/arts In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [193.62.151.67] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2006 09:46:13.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[33B12A60:01C69385] A friend is starting a new online media/arts magazine called Innovative. The magazine is looking for artists who are unknown and aims to give them exposure. I know lots of people here are involved in various forms of art and I thought this list would be an ideal place to reach the right people. The email address is to reply to is: xxxxxxxxxx_xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx Here are all the details: INNOVATIVE adjective 1. origination, creation, invention and design. 2. the art of introducing something new; having a new and unusual idea. 3. a new online magazine introducing new and unrecognised talents. Innovative covers everything and anything to do with undiscovered works in the media/arts. Whether these are works by visual artists, writers, filmmakers, music makers, journalists, or someone making an as-yet unnamed form of art, Innovative covers it. This is a place where you can post your work for all to see/read/hear and comment on, chat to other artists like yourself in the forum, make career-furthering contacts, share your ideas before they become reality or simply make friends with likeminded people. This is a place where an up and coming artist can show off their skills and talents, whatever they may be, without bias or discrepancy. The magazine will be full to bursting point with reviews of short stories, film scripts, poetry, new music and short films. “Innovative thoughts lead to Innovative magazine” WHO’S DOING WHAT Select a job and write a brief description what you intend to contribute (e.g. post-digital poetry, pre-Raphaelite photographs, urban-sprawl poetry, etc). · WRITERS (scripts, short stories, poetry, travel stories, etc) · EDITORS (chief, co) · PRODUCTION (web designers) · ARTIST (music, film, photographers, etc) · JOURNALIST (news/events) · PR/ADVERTSING, MARKETING (advertisement, exposure, target market) PERSONAL DETAILS TITLE: NAME: DATE OF BIRTH: JOB CHOSEN: These details are private, they are for company use only, and will not be shared with anyone at all. We swear on the eyes of our future children that this information stays with us. FAQ: 1. What is Innovative? Innovative is an independent online literary/art/media magazine dedicated to providing exposure for as-yet unknown artists deserving of wider recognition. Innovative is full of intelligent reviews, articles, interviews and digital content (music, video and photography) presented to inform and enlighten. 2. Who is Innovative? A small but dedicated team of likeminded creative people who love the art but hate the monotony of mainstream art. 3. What are Innovative’s aims? To expose progressive artists who innovate through genuine personal expression rather than novelty. To encourage its readers to be more creative. To promote thought through its articles and reviews. To unite individuals who want more than the mainstream media offer. To cover art which the mainstream media ignore. 4. Why is the magazine called Innovative? Because of its focus on promoting innovative artists, writers and thinkers. Also, unlike other magazines Innovative relies upon its readers to determine much of its content. A large percentage of the magazine consists of works provided by its creative readership, many of whom are artists, writers, etc. 5. How can I contact Innovative? Subscribe. 6. How can I contribute to Innovative? At the moment, you may only contribute on a freelance basis (i.e. no job vacancies right now). To do so, contact the editor with your ideas or enclosing a few (i.e. maximum three) LINKS to examples of your work. We love submissions; we hate Inbox-filling attachments. Remember: LINKS not ATTACHMENTS. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 20:11:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39185-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:11:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38292 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:11:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 38236 invoked from network); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:11:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:11:08 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yea! Exquisite corpse! I'd love to play, but I'll be away for most of July. Play on! R~~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Jun 16 16:09:04 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39184-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30857 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:08:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 30846 invoked from network); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:08:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rWaB5mecoXgS1ZLuuBWCHQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hMU2M09mG0bMi8QmuvOzR1qQaUKK2lCnHDED2bTjHkpO52kAxSI0BNyoRqbSOFe/ovszxMGDBWH/7N8i8bHBkbNg6R9KH9TMIyR1O2D5I2hboCuv76+SXiLaSR9axNSrZ5iQSy7/L1rNKcrs79O5f+eLJ0UjT5EBXhDYVXWlHWs= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_rWaB5mecoXgS1ZLuuBWCHQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im into producing a piece for the project, though Im still not clear on what the objective is. Peter www.peterlasell.net --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. --Boundary_(ID_rWaB5mecoXgS1ZLuuBWCHQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Jun 15 08:37:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39183-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70658 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:37:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 70645 invoked from network); Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:37:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: [Microsound-announce] 48volt mic to MD field recording question? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dVb7jOK0qFfCFbv67q4gvrDnrzf/3zZ4RBuAh5trCuipSTqBRay0XX3J+7jk5cxHQCH/SVWWqOAtvtzXghgcYsDzCL9Jcml5NhLWfSRurt+w1n5tqG/m23YPmNOl8aU2f+aIo1wUBqyxlGt8/vRGPAQXi3EcyVyh6ontHJPfxLg= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx many thanks Aaron will get back to you maybe. thanks a lot. best ben --- Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > > hi can i ask off the back of this about if anyones > got > > any good ideas about how to fit up a mic thats > needs > > 48 volt phantom power to a normal minidisc > recorder > > Rolls and ART both make 9V-battery powered phantom > supplies that have > tested well with MD recorders. These are not > preamps, just phantom > powering units. They are bigger and heavier than the > MD itself but have > tested well with a wide variety of mics (providing > enough power with no > discernible addition of noise). > > I paid about $80 for the Rolls unit as I recall. > It's the PB224 -- the > similar PB223 runs off a wallwart, not battery! > > Btw another alternative would be to use a batter > powered pre like the > Sound Devices MP2 (if you can find one used for > $350) which also provides > phantom. The pres on the HiMDs are so good tho that > this is not cost > effective unless you also want say the M/S decoding > available in the MP2. > > best, > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > | quod omne animal post | > | cogitum est triste... | > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 15 05:42:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39182-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34367 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 15 Jun 2006 05:42:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 34354 invoked from network); Thu, 15 Jun 2006 05:42:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:10:52 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c6903a$136077f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm into an additive microsound project. Reminded me somehow of the Sound Recovery / Sound Injury project(s). They were by nature branching. Read more at HarS SoundBlog: http://www.harsmedia.com/SoundBlog/Archief/00534.php The only way to get things rollin' is to have the rules agreed upon and then set a deadline. So "someone" - please post suggestions to rules/instructions! Maybe some alterations - and then we go. The realization (the actual sound scaping) of the project could take at least one or two weeks. Maybe a bit more. But maybe a project that is formed in just some hours would be very exciting to be a part of too... I guess the working methods will differ a lot depending on what "speed" we choose. To find a decent randomizer should be no problem. Dunno how exactly it is intended to work though. Would be very nice if we could have a microsound project that finally takes place. T'was a long time since last time. /Björn Eriksson ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff gburek" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project > is this project then going to be routed through > microsound.org or just be deposited there ultimately? > i am still unclear if this is going to be an "live" > and very fast thing or just allowed to evolve? i'd > like to hear more direct talk about time frame. and > what are the files that we begin with? > > --- Josh Atkins <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> ryuichi sakamoto started something like this called >> chain music. the >> piece is on the web at >> http://www.sitesakamoto.com/chainmusic/ >> >> ~josh >> >> On 6/14/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > has an additive project been proposed ever? - to >> begin with a >> > single >> > work and pass it through a chain of remixes and >> rewordings, and >> > archive and document each step? Step order by >> lottery... >> > ....each step in the morph process could be given >> an amount of time >> > to complete. Obviously a long project-- a >> turnaround time of an hour >> > and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me >> [time zone issues >> > might apply], but still a good time. I suppose >> you might allow >> > branching and archiving for more opportunity for >> choice. >> > Geneological graphic player to explain morph >> graphically? Sorry if >> > it's an old idea. >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Wed Jun 14 22:10:14 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39181-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82303 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:10:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 82293 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:10:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: [Microsound-announce] 48volt mic to MD field recording question? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > hi can i ask off the back of this about if anyones got > any good ideas about how to fit up a mic thats needs > 48 volt phantom power to a normal minidisc recorder Rolls and ART both make 9V-battery powered phantom supplies that have tested well with MD recorders. These are not preamps, just phantom powering units. They are bigger and heavier than the MD itself but have tested well with a wide variety of mics (providing enough power with no discernible addition of noise). I paid about $80 for the Rolls unit as I recall. It's the PB224 -- the similar PB223 runs off a wallwart, not battery! Btw another alternative would be to use a batter powered pre like the Sound Devices MP2 (if you can find one used for $350) which also provides phantom. The pres on the HiMDs are so good tho that this is not cost effective unless you also want say the M/S decoding available in the MP2. best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org | quod omne animal post | | cogitum est triste... | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Step order by > lottery... > > ....each step in the morph process could be given > an amount of time > > to complete. Obviously a long project-- a > turnaround time of an hour > > and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me > [time zone issues > > might apply], but still a good time. I suppose > you might allow > > branching and archiving for more opportunity for > choice. > > Geneological graphic player to explain morph > graphically? Sorry if > > it's an old idea. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Wed Jun 14 21:12:18 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39179-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54804 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:11:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 54792 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:11:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:11:51 -0600 From: shift8 <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: projects for microsound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-IPAddress: 71.140.57.198 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://xiphoidprocess.com/ec2/ i personally should have taken more time and production w/ my slice, but the over all product is pretty awesome. big ups to the xiphoid process! purple monkey dishwater! 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Wed Jun 14 20:58:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39178-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48651 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:58:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 48638 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:58:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:58:27 -0400 From: Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] sorry for double post To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I got an error message that said my 1st message had failed. Sorry. Maybe if this project is OK, Kim or someone who can, generate some randomizer....do a sign up sheet....and stage the order that way. I would like to hear ideas for documentation standards Brannching would be my vote too. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 14 15:18:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39177-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1500 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:18:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 1489 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:18:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:18:21 -0400 From: Milan Davidovic <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e7wGa+vW5AXAfsX/cKCopoYe/ILjDjy8H2hCbykcpMIKt8vaSILRHAFwkH09Lht2uraLbFuuuPrdNYtioiwMDiBigy/mYLpoAt4D75SXVZxkgC9zYaR2Spl2LiykzuU6yRFp9kbau3q6yxZYkbmxZx3wgl2TvQAsiAUFRx+l0zY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Something simpler could be done between two people, passing one (or two -- one originating from each) files back and forth. Milan http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 On 6/14/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi, > has an additive project been proposed ever? - to begin with a > single > work and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and > archive and document each step? Step order by lottery... > ....each step in the morph process could be given an amount of time > to complete. Obviously a long project-- a turnaround time of an hour > and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me [time zone issues > might apply], but still a good time. I suppose you might allow > branching and archiving for more opportunity for choice. > Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if > it's an old idea. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 14 13:35:13 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39176-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70663 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:35:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 70651 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:35:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:35:01 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: [Microsound-announce] 48volt mic to MD field recording question? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vzbpcHsa3MlEk8d4XFYwCcOHI9gNnnDbQdYQ1a885sxcLPAhH5rMayxWBH77pAoYDHqfKrzKAWmWNuifPKkDp+okRjsz7QCJowH73cTBxur7tl052yR2RtTgNRJ2haT8GKgQHoUATQkvezXXTfi/oZs1dCa01+CAiq1K31BDcK8= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi can i ask off the back of this about if anyones got any good ideas about how to fit up a mic thats needs 48 volt phantom power to a normal minidisc recorder please? i've checked out DI boxes but they all seem to need a power supply, which i wouldnt have (or haven't thought about how to sort out) in 'the field'. best ben --- p jørgensen <x@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > i need a cheap (and preferably good) mic for doing > field recordings > onto my hi-MD. > cheap in this case meaning less than $100. > the mic has to be small (pocketsize). > no pre-amp. > would electrets be a good solution? > > and yes, i know the recordings won't be as good as > using better gear, > but these are my limitations. > > any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > /peter > > http://clangtint.net > http://www.myspace.com/clangtint > > _______________________________________________ > Microsound-announce mailing list > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Wed Jun 14 12:44:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39175-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57479 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:43:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 57469 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:43:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:43:58 -0400 From: Josh Atkins <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nw0NncBa3PL+im0MKbZr9cv694P4md6OLZ3ks/1gWV4YyNoG62R7TiOagQ89XjK/QC0fZ53YJfrcYLdWY2S2rPlrfWIk4u6RHqERXysKiwlUZnQxdcbS+c7dMw5qoXI75ZyG28gMWtJ6jpT7wsRfCxoCV0NwOo/15O5URdDMSOw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ryuichi sakamoto started something like this called chain music. the piece is on the web at http://www.sitesakamoto.com/chainmusic/ ~josh On 6/14/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi, > has an additive project been proposed ever? - to begin with a > single > work and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and > archive and document each step? Step order by lottery... > ....each step in the morph process could be given an amount of time > to complete. Obviously a long project-- a turnaround time of an hour > and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me [time zone issues > might apply], but still a good time. I suppose you might allow > branching and archiving for more opportunity for choice. > Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if > it's an old idea. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 14 05:58:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39174-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59657 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:58:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 59647 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:58:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:23:22 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: projects for microsound In-reply-to: <521ivo$xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <521ivo$xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i'm in. but who starts the process and how do figure out a running order? On 12-Jun-06, at 5:02 PM, Christopher Sorg wrote: >> has an additive project been proposed ever? - to begin with >> a single work and pass it through a chain of remixes and >> rewordings, and archive and document each step? > > I think this sounds like a grand idea. > __________________________________________ > Christopher Sorg > Multimedia Artist and Instructor > The School of the Art Institute of Chicago > Columbia College Chicago > http://www.chrissorg.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 14 05:08:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39173-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46412 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:08:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 46402 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:08:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:07:38 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] re: project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tim Kugel wrote: > Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if > it's an old idea. i tried to do this once, but it was going to be audio->video->audio one little bottleneck and the whole thing falls to bits unfortunately, we made it about two rounds and then it all broke.. haha -- f r e y live music with computers http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 14 04:55:17 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39172-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41466 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:55:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 41456 invoked from network); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:55:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:55:04 -0400 From: Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] re: project To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, has an additive project been proposed ever? - to begin with a single work and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and document each step? Step order by lottery... .....each step in the morph process could be given an amount of time to complete. Obviously a long project-- a turnaround time of an hour and a half (haha!!)? That might be too hard for me [time zone issues might apply], but still a good time. I suppose you might allow branching and archiving for more opportunity for choice. Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if it's an old idea. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Tue Jun 13 15:37:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39170-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35360 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:37:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 35347 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:37:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:37:34 -0400 From: Milan Davidovic <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Recommendations on Sounds in Bangkok In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FMUq/DB39DtBJi1BWGCbdKHk4GKMatqbBe5fK5aGbrIK83E39GCUJ9NrMvw5Ek1t3uEM3yA3fIosGgTS5WqZmLXl67I1Xe7cl1dyAj0soPYo84BXRsXUeLJs+F3+vDYUCZkLG+VnoS0XwG/PHZj3wSrEWFAABW0fjK0cWY2IDGk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Ha! When I looked at the subject line I thought someone was going there to do some field recording... On 6/13/06, Truman Boyes <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Any recommendations on some places to check out for experimental music? Out > here for a few more weeks ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 13 11:14:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39169-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63369 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:14:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 63358 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:14:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 23:14:40 +1200 From: Truman Boyes <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Recommendations on Sounds in Bangkok To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5VO3dqNsgDWM89dyORjQew)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RQLkiyd0yIAXGXRMW0tFn8Ne6GyFVJDsDUghGf0Z1/B9lJtcVlPnF/fGfKU2inEqcJyi1LnAgB0csh5AattKBFLCN6CC6xIXS8/J65Rda+uta3Vpe4gwpLIfdoegfL6SZnpDA2qMhfdXRV8QlCD2bB2ufQj1L/YViyVywVgnfxU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_5VO3dqNsgDWM89dyORjQew) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any recommendations on some places to check out for experimental music? Out here for a few more weeks ... Cheers, -- --truman --Boundary_(ID_5VO3dqNsgDWM89dyORjQew)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 13 07:12:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39168-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9171 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:12:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 9158 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:12:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:52:27 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP Gyorgi Ligeti - Jupiter and beyond the infinite In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx easily a century ahead of his time and a genius among geniuses. i must admit, it was 2001 that got me into his compositions, but without that film i would have never known his brilliance outside of pop culture. some of the most inspiring, scary, terrifying, beautiful, disembodying, intense, embryonic, futuristic, three dimensional, dynamic, revolutionary, psychotic, visual music known to the planet. go and buy all the berlin recordings now. and turn off the lights and listen. jupiter and beyond the infinite, graham On 13-Jun-06, at 1:15 AM, Phil Thomson wrote: > I'm on the digest, so I don't know if this has been posted already, > but if not, I'd like to pass on that Gyorgi Ligeti, one of my > favourite composers ever, has passed away. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/13/arts/music/13ligeti.html? > ex=1307851200&en=2492483cb97d9ad3&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss > > -- > "Ours is the age that is proud of machines that think and suspicious > of men who try to." > > -H. Mumford Jones > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > Phil Thomson, BFA, MFA > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > http://www.philthomson.ca/ > http://del.icio.us/hellomynameisphil > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 13 05:15:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39167-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75168 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:15:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 75142 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:15:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:15:38 -0700 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RIP Gyorgi Ligeti To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=legQ++GKf8KM13wb2BR9AOWUBV7mNwzV9VWdTTtVWqnZtme3Cz57CZJvJyULfnHgYpRblhFOgzyS6NtBuOwZKk/Z2BAHA9U8sBSRcZAdrDnn2cphXmO43wjFzgIvNUfBft2FqjbRH9li2zgqxpsj27U50veJ3IgmwsZe99oCRgk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm on the digest, so I don't know if this has been posted already, but if not, I'd like to pass on that Gyorgi Ligeti, one of my favourite composers ever, has passed away. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/13/arts/music/13ligeti.html?ex=1307851200&en=2492483cb97d9ad3&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss -- "Ours is the age that is proud of machines that think and suspicious of men who try to." -H. Mumford Jones ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Phil Thomson, BFA, MFA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://www.philthomson.ca/ http://del.icio.us/hellomynameisphil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 13 03:31:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39166-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44943 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:31:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 44933 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:31:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:31:25 -0400 From: Frank D'Urso <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] my new experimental radio podcast In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, michael faloon <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>, Michael Henry <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showtopic=133187 this link will be live for a week, and then an archive link will be created Frank "DJ" D'Urso --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 13 02:11:21 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39165-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18914 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:11:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 18903 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:11:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] minimutekreview In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx full review here: www.vagueterrain.net enjoy On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Graham Miller wrote: > high point: ryoichi kurokawa > > low point: detroit grand pubahs > > g. ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 13 01:43:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39164-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10694 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:43:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 10675 invoked from network); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:43:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:09:34 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] minimutekreview To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_l0z/uPIRj35SiX7kvgTILQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_l0z/uPIRj35SiX7kvgTILQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit high point: ryoichi kurokawa low point: detroit grand pubahs g. --Boundary_(ID_l0z/uPIRj35SiX7kvgTILQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 12 21:44:10 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39163-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25203 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:43:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 25182 invoked from network); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:43:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:43:47 -0400 From: Michael Samos <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: projects for microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ShavO88v3pE9LAM9Iuh6Xg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DA5c79LIj4B68TxVtt7pp/iVcIW7aLaGcgJa2ebWROc3rdD5ZBa0v3tF4wnhyh8c7y5Abximcen9xzVFCo5MiRN3ugc/751PYvimj+fVYbi7gfvCHdWyvna2TAlqPc8plQcDwXT02Lme32db1GyevW8dlbzy6m2slO11Q+tv8QI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ShavO88v3pE9LAM9Iuh6Xg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Old or new this sounds like a neat project. Count me in. -mike www.michaelsamos.com On 6/12/06, js <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > hi > > On 6/12/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > has an additive project been proposed ever? > > many projects have been proposed, but only the ones that kim have > proposed have actually been carried to fruition. > > > to begin with a single work > > and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and > > document each step? > > this is kinda interesting, but i think it might even be better if we > have several branches coming off the main trunk. let the music grow as > the musicians get inspired instead of 'forcing' them to work with a > specific [unknown] input and hand off what they've done to the next > 'victim' ... > > but i get the sense there are more people who might be interested in > doing something like this now than there have been in the past. > > dunno- i'm not much of a clairvoyant ... > > > Sorry if > > it's an old idea. > > that' ok- i think there still might be some life left in it. > > maybe before you start your re-working, you send a mail to get a > random number to 'help' you with the music ... > > there are many rules that could be implemented ... > > -- > \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- www.michaelsamos.com --Boundary_(ID_ShavO88v3pE9LAM9Iuh6Xg)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 12 21:19:39 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39162-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14165 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:19:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 14154 invoked from network); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:19:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:19:26 -0400 From: "\\js" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: projects for microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PFEHxiikUpLK5QpiwVOPnPBMbRFNwD1LI5bKOF0o9vupFE0L5RVkMatceTXLiUiMKv2zxqTslbqT0RPuWJpdSKHp1fy4tAMva2NRf8NxWj1E3+U0wGbk5Af4zqZDmHxBZziw1EUJzAbuQl3DHfbaEGAKvak4rmz9LRPtAC2Y/Ms= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On 6/12/06, Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > has an additive project been proposed ever? many projects have been proposed, but only the ones that kim have proposed have actually been carried to fruition. > to begin with a single work > and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and > document each step? this is kinda interesting, but i think it might even be better if we have several branches coming off the main trunk. let the music grow as the musicians get inspired instead of 'forcing' them to work with a specific [unknown] input and hand off what they've done to the next 'victim' ... but i get the sense there are more people who might be interested in doing something like this now than there have been in the past. dunno- i'm not much of a clairvoyant ... > Sorry if > it's an old idea. that' ok- i think there still might be some life left in it. maybe before you start your re-working, you send a mail to get a random number to 'help' you with the music ... there are many rules that could be implemented ... -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 12 21:07:53 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39161-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7804 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:07:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 7793 invoked from network); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:07:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:02:07 -0500 From: Christopher Sorg <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Re: projects for microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcaOYGig/Ez5sk8kQ3G1z5wQGS8UYQAAwSdA X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > has an additive project been proposed ever? - to begin with > a single work and pass it through a chain of remixes and > rewordings, and archive and document each step? I think this sounds like a grand idea. __________________________________________ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist and Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago Columbia College Chicago http://www.chrissorg.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Jun 12 20:40:12 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39160-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94524 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:40:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 94514 invoked from network); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:40:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:39:58 -0400 From: Tim Kugel <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: projects for microsound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx has an additive project been proposed ever? - to begin with a single work and pass it through a chain of remixes and rewordings, and archive and document each step? maybe a random number could be assigned to provide sequence order of list subscribers who want to participate, and each step in the morph process could be given an amount of time to complete. Obviously a long project, but it could be done on a live basis almost with a turnaround time of say - and hour and a half? That might be too hard for me, but still a good time. I suppose you might allow branching and archiving for more opportunity for choice. Geneological graphic player to explain morph graphically? Sorry if it's an old idea. xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > microsound Digest 12 Jun 2006 10:08:03 -0000 Issue 1622 > > Topics (messages 39158 through 39159): > > Re: projects for microsound > 39158 by: Thomas Ashcraft > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Sun Jun 11 18:47:56 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39158-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95503 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:47:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 95473 invoked from network); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:47:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:01:04 -0600 From: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] projects for microsound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear Friends and Colleagues, I previously proposed a microsound project to the list ( Symbiont ) to be a possible counterpart to the Parasites Rework Project. But due to happy and unforeseen circumstances I have to withdraw the invitation. I really hope there will be future microsound projects so that I can have something interesting to listen to and think about! Those older projects at microsound.org are generally very good entrainments of energy. Best wishes to all in your creative endeavors and I hope to experience your work in the future somewhere on the internet. Thomas A Kim Cascone wrote: > Thomas Ashcraft recently posted a project proposal to the list which I > mistook for a private project announcement - so I'm publicly > apologizing and requesting that Thomas repost his project proposal to > this list so we can hopefully get a new microsound project started... > > we have a new microsound project server just sitting there waiting for > something to happen -- so let's get to it! > :) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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En grupp forskare har upptäckt att människor med schizofreni uppfattar ljud annorlunda. Det har lett till en ny metod att ställa diagnosen schizofreni. Tekniken går att använda även när patienterna är så sjuka att de inte är kontaktbara. Intressant och skrämmande, jag tänker på Deleuze och kontrollsamhället... /Kf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Jun 8 00:58:26 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39156-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24402 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:58:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 24391 invoked from network); Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:58:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:51:25 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new music box laptop article In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aO9lf1lH7rNWbX5Lc37yx2dIV/6rRwpV6cluX5bB/AHpVB2leGbCQ6WCQazVoyw0NRvWx2zSVlWiOtM0Ym5XjwiBfsU3CDP9ps72l/DBKI9UbuRhF3TirVNGyWQuQ/1PdIKN6l8NSPVBv2tqir91VZLdybrqgD05Lch76V4dSMY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Haven't seen this posted yet. I just ran across this about a year ago. http://www.newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=4659 Serial Port: A Brief History of Laptop Music By Marc Weidenbaum Richard aka Part of Me:Apparatus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 7 21:10:30 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39155-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32372 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:09:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 32360 invoked from network); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:09:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:09:03 -0700 From: scott carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] multispeaker interface references? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Auth-Received: from [24.18.157.172] (c-24-18-157-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.157.172]) (authenticated authid=fscthaw) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.03/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k57L9icP024341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:09:45 -0700 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Check out Ken Rinaldo's Autopoesis, it's conceptually similar. I can forward you info about a similar project a friend of mine did as well, when I get the info. - Scott Carver Kevin McCoy wrote: > Hello all, > > I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker > programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in > various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd. The model > right now > involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different > shapes and clusters. We are looking to create a sort of "organism" > structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on > parameters > set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and > sound > models are of great interest to us. > > I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm > turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound > artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related > would > be good. Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking > for references for this project, though technical information would be > appreciated as well. > > Thanks, > Kevin > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 7 14:18:33 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39154-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21384 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:18:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 21369 invoked from network); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:18:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:18:16 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] reminder::: new microsound project server! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I am pleased to announce that the microsound community has a new server for projects: http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository *note: this new server is NOT a Hotline server and you DO NOT need to use a Hotline client for accessing this server... everything is accessible through your web browser some points: you need to be a member of the list in order to have an account on this server... but I no longer need to assign a password -- it is automatically done for you now! the request for an account is checked against the database of sub'ers for BOTH the daily and the digest versions of the list please note that this server replaces and contains everything that was on the microsound hotline server it's possible that some things got lost in transition...so if you find that something is missing please let us know and we'll try to track it down... Paulo Mouat is hosting the server so if there is a problem please contact him via the list... *please do not email me directly as I am busy on a deadline and will probably not answer your email...unless it's a dire emergency **I would like to thank Paulo Mouat and John Saylor for their help and their gracious donation of time, energy and server space *** we still need some help on the microsound web site -- if you can help please contact John Saylor on the list so for the sake of redundancy: http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 7 14:07:33 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39153-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:07:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16676 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:07:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 16666 invoked from network); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:07:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:07:14 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] reminder::: new microsound project server! To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I am pleased to announce that the microsound community has a new server for projects: http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository *note: this new server is NOT a Hotline server and you DO NOT need to use a Hotline client for accessing this server... everything is accessible through your web browser some points: you need to be a member of the list in order to have an account on this server... but I no longer need to assign a password -- it is automatically done for you now! the request for an account is checked against the database of sub'ers for BOTH the daily and the digest versions of the list please note that this server replaces and contains everything that was on the microsound hotline server it's possible that some things got lost in transition...so if you find that something is missing please let us know and we'll try to track it down... Paulo Mouat is hosting the server so if there is a problem please contact him via the list... *please do not email me directly as I am busy on a deadline and will probably not answer your email...unless it's a dire emergency **I would like to thank Paulo Mouat and John Saylor for their help and their gracious donation of time, energy and server space *** we still need some help on the microsound web site -- if you can help please contact John Saylor on the list so for the sake of redundancy: http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-repository --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Jun 7 13:11:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39152-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91162 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:11:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 91152 invoked from network); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:11:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 08:19:46 -0400 From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE:multispeaker interface references.. Ambisonics and pd To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003001c68a2c$aa356d20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oX0kblai2oEfluWcjZjVaQ)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_oX0kblai2oEfluWcjZjVaQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Mailsmith-7D2C940C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Mailsmith-7D2C940C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx [mailto:xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx] On Behalf Of Dave Malham Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:21 AM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics and pd Sursounders my like to know that our ambilib externals for pd <http://www.puredata.info/> are now available for both Win32 and Mac OSX platforms. Ambilib contains the following (first order only) objects; ambipan~ two input to Bformat output panner object ambidec~ BFormat in pre-set decoder, does the following decodes ;- mono, stereo, square, rectangle, hexagon , 2 different octagons, cubic ambi2s~ BFormat to 6 output decoder, specialised to cinema type surround, partially programmable. ambimic~ BFormat to 2 output decoder, specialised to stereo coincident mic outputs, partially programmable. ambiplane~ BFormat, fully steerable mirror effect ambiproc~ BFormat, fully steerable rotate/tilt/tumble processor ambizoom~ BFormat, fully steerable dominance effect This can be downloaded from http://music.york.ac.uk/mrc/download.php . The ..zip file contains ambilib as a Mac OSX .app and a PC .dll . There are also source and makefiles for both platforms Derived from the VST plugins, the code is mostly mine but with significant contributions from various of our Music Technology students. The pd port was by Matt Paradis. Enjoy Dave /*********************************************************************/ /* Dave Malham http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave_malham/ */ /* Department of Music <http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/music/> "http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/music/" */ /* The University of York Phone 01904 432448 */ /* Heslington Fax 01904 432450 */ /* York YO10 5DD */ /* UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' */ /* <http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/> "http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/" */ /*********************************************************************/ --Mailsmith-7D2C940C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:black;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} pre {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:black;} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx [mailto:xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xxx] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave Malham<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; color:windowtext'>Friday, February 17, 2006</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; color:windowtext'> </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'>7:21 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; color:windowtext'><br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Surround Sound discussion group<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics and pd</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br> Sursounders my like to know that our ambilib externals for <a href="http://www.puredata.info/">pd</a> are now available for both Win32 and Mac OSX platforms. Ambilib contains the following (first order only) objects;<br> <br> ambipan~ two input to Bformat output panner object<br> <br> ambidec~ BFormat in pre-set decoder, does the following decodes ;- mono, stereo, square, rectangle, hexagon , 2 different octagons, cubic<br> <br> ambi2s~ BFormat to 6 output decoder, specialised to cinema type surround, partially programmable.<br> <br> ambimic~ BFormat to 2 output decoder, specialised to stereo coincident mic outputs, partially programmable.<br> <br> ambiplane~ BFormat, fully steerable mirror effect<br> <br> ambiproc~ BFormat, fully steerable rotate/tilt/tumble processor<br> <br> ambizoom~ BFormat, fully steerable dominance effect<br> <br> <br> This can be downloaded from <a href="http://music.york.ac.uk/mrc/download.php">http://music.york.ac.uk/mrc/download.php</a> .. The .zip file contains ambilib as a Mac OSX .app and a PC .dll . There are also source and makefiles for both platforms<br> <br> Derived from the VST plugins, the code is mostly mine but with significant contributions from various of our Music Technology students. The pd port was by Matt Paradis.<br> <br> Enjoy<br> <br> Dave<br> <br> </span></font></p> <pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style='margin-left: ..5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/*********************************************************************/</span></font></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* Dave Malham <a href="http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave_malham/">http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave_malham/</a> */</span></font></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* Department of Music <a href="http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/music/">"http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/music/"</a> */</span></font></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* The University of </span></font>York Phone 01904 432448 */</pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* Heslington Fax 01904 432450 */</span></font></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* </span></font>York YO10 5DD */</pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* </span></font>UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' */</pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/* <a href="http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/">"http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/"</a> */</span></font></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>/*********************************************************************/</span></font></pre></div> </body> </html> --Mailsmith-7D2C940C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78-- --Boundary_(ID_oX0kblai2oEfluWcjZjVaQ)-- From ???@??? Wed Jun 7 08:02:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39151-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 04:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 04:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8838 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 08:02:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 8820 invoked from network); Wed, 07 Jun 2006 08:02:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:02:16 +0200 From: carsten stabenow <xxxx@xxxxxx-x.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] multispeaker interface references? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06200701c0ac372de50d@[192.168.0.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you should also check out the ambiunix system made by the komponent people > http://ambiunix.komponent.dk/ they recently ported the whole system to pd best, carsten >Hello all, > >I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker >programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in >various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd. The model right now >involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different >shapes and clusters. We are looking to create a sort of "organism" >structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on parameters >set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and sound >models are of great interest to us. > >I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm >turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound >artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related would >be good. Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking >for references for this project, though technical information would be >appreciated as well. > >Thanks, >Kevin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 6 23:39:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39150-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58186 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:39:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 58175 invoked from network); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:39:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:14:55 +0200 From: Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] multispeaker interface references? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0ABD90F.38EF%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Check out Paris-based Robin Meier. He does a lot of work about self-organising music. http://robin.meier.free.fr/ Tobias Am 6.6.2006 23:11 Uhr schrieb "Kevin McCoy" unter <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > Hello all, > > I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker > programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in > various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd. The model right now > involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different > shapes and clusters. We are looking to create a sort of "organism" > structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on parameters > set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and sound > models are of great interest to us. > > I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm > turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound > artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related would > be good. Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking > for references for this project, though technical information would be > appreciated as well. > > Thanks, > Kevin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Jun 6 21:12:09 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39149-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86662 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:11:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 86632 invoked from network); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:11:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:11:24 -0500 From: Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] multispeaker interface references? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QC63HOHb9xzrill1jRFeog)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JitdN8S8JJrWsuEvGcat7tRLmQkq/Wyz9PRxHUJhhbDeXHNrQJcqsw+7xfEjBxN7O+ya/Lq6DGxyFKFLNDrpkU9zLLROzoeogE0HY0TmwgbWft0pLOuUuncNeiJ7+ZRAbKIIrXjHVKSl5g2Qr3wmkdOqBAKqF+DYQruVpmMkrzQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_QC63HOHb9xzrill1jRFeog) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I am assisting a professor right now with building a multi-speaker programmable "grid" where sound events can be triggered and programmed in various configurations, controlled (hopefully) from Pd. The model right now involves two large metal frames where speakers will be hung in different shapes and clusters. We are looking to create a sort of "organism" structure that will allow the piece to react to itself based on parameters set up in Pd - these microsound sort of self-sustaining structures and sound models are of great interest to us. I know that we're not the first to try and do something like this, so I'm turning to the list to see if anyone can think of any musicians or sound artists who use or make these sort of things - anything even related would be good. Not really as much a technical question as much as I am looking for references for this project, though technical information would be appreciated as well. Thanks, Kevin --Boundary_(ID_QC63HOHb9xzrill1jRFeog)-- From ???@??? Tue Jun 6 20:29:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39148-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57118 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:28:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 57105 invoked from network); Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:28:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:28:26 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] projects for microsound To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the only projects that are OK to post to this list are ones involving the community...if you are proposing a community project please please please make it painfully obvious to everyone (especially me) so I don't haul off and send you a 'please don't post announcements' email? that would help me out a lot... as a reminder: the announcements list was set up to funnel off all promotional content to another place so we could save this as a haven for thinking and acting...not adding too much noise with announcements of new CD's for sale or concerts coming up... a large part of the microsound community (as I see it anyway) is creating new projects that help build the community...these types of projects will be hosted on the microsound web site...these are considered microsound projects... Thomas Ashcraft recently posted a project proposal to the list which I mistook for a private project announcement - so I'm publicly apologizing and requesting that Thomas repost his project proposal to this list so we can hopefully get a new microsound project started... we have a new microsound project server just sitting there waiting for something to happen -- so let's get to it! :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Jun 4 20:23:05 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39147-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74314 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:22:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 74304 invoked from network); Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:22:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:20:18 -0700 From: JC <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Sound/Graphic Experiment using Flash X-Originating-IP: 71.198.32.161 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <023901c68814$4df2f790$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_e9UihBqcFn3S+TJy1I8wEg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=B/LlrSCwAlk+fjN5HDp0CL4Qr8n2U4jb2sr4zuL1hvddk7pVg0STRkePiCuTI1QY; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; X-ELNK-Trace: 250e53821a8c36f54d2b10475b57112016956cb7842c7266955f75203cfd666ec4780be9ff8a43af350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_e9UihBqcFn3S+TJy1I8wEg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a flash graphic/sound experiment some of you may enjoy: http://www.allhaildiscordia.com/moraga33.htm Check it out if you get a chance and send me any feedback you may have. Juan Carlos Black Note Music - Techno Shamanic Music -- Energized Sound Creations -- http://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/ --Boundary_(ID_e9UihBqcFn3S+TJy1I8wEg)-- From ???@??? Sat Jun 3 19:04:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39146-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10180 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:04:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 10163 invoked from network); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:04:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:04:35 -0700 From: Thaniel Lee <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] comments needed.......please reply off the list To: "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mcVbl0siGz0TswTv0ad9+hgAGbe7z1rdqglbcG2UgG4Lf3n3s6Hob0U4EW9Wz0LqoistWSiJt7VV++gZ9QRu3+Q3Fs7OTmDg/g4tmcFY2dkFSnc896moPTb1Wakf0c/xRhBanztOlKfxJFEg+rQyI2WfIb8IvXBqnpOf9B5kLDk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey i put some new mp3s up, and i would like some constuctive comments on them. please reply off the list - thaniel the mp3s are at http://www.myspace.com/bridlewire -- xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://thanielarts.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Jun 3 13:00:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39145-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16151 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:59:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 16139 invoked from network); Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:59:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:59:46 +0200 From: rinus van alebeek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] a rainy day in berlin To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Rql2SIqADItqn3SZLTafJQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MUiYpG3qy39x7WXPPN4xTBAadHtApZJQD5cvbPum514SQrqSqQSIcfs4nlsVCF4klr+TQ+kzTcJ81kqyY7Q1wmxPtRhUZC3wd12Jlz6wDaAG/M0wpY1EyObcmwl21ZhJztujKQ+vx+SuCbU/a8nsQrWKxuKth7Z0UEFFrbOQYR8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Rql2SIqADItqn3SZLTafJQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First time here, so far east. old industrial buildings alongside the spree, shops and streets that still have the ddr-feel, maybe i will explore them later, bring my walkman and record some echoos. there is a concrete field nearby, a zeppelin landing place, the concrete is cracked, plants are growing fast. factory berlin is near the treptow bridge, you can visit ongoing aesthetical discussions here, www.lost-shadows.net www.factory-berlin.de activities, releases, downloads http://emc.yserv.com/103 The no-budget Foundation http://no-bf.blogspot.com/ --Boundary_(ID_Rql2SIqADItqn3SZLTafJQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Jun 12 19:38:27 2006 Return-path: <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collab.or8.net (collab.or8.net [209.6.82.6]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collab.or8.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by collab.or8.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AA66013B2; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr (smtp4.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.27]) by collab.or8.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE2B5E20E7 for <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AMarseille-251-1-94-193.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.202.60.193]) by mwinf0409.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C7161C003BD; Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:12:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:12:57 +0200 From: Philippe Petit <xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [Microsound-announce] BiP_HOp Generation ::: May 2006 Playlist In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Sender: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, idm - moderated <xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx-xx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Errors-to: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7XQboJBbFqOLXDJQz2nsvQ)" Precedence: list X-BeenThere: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx Delivered-to: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx X-Original-To: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx X-ME-UUID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:38:20 -0400 References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8rc1 List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Subscribe: <http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce>, <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx?subject=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce>, <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound-announce> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx?subject=help> List-Id: microsound related announcements <microsound-announce.microsound.nexthop.net> Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7XQboJBbFqOLXDJQz2nsvQ) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Mailsmith-7D3E7B22-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Mailsmith-7D3E7B22-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit BiP_HOp Generation on Radio Grenouille // 88.8 FM Wednesday evenings : 19:10 - 20:30 PM // Marseille // France May 2006 Playlist ARTIST ALBUM label Hanne Hukkelberg : break my body (Leaf) Guapo : black oni (Ipecac) Triosk : the headlight serenade (Leaf) Leo Abrahams : honeytrap (Just Music) Bästard : yet, reloaded... (Ici d'Ailleurs) 1 Kilo Of Black Bondage : fear the windows (Wallace) Taylor Deupree + Eisi : every still day (Noble/Creative) Sci-Fi Industries : the air cutter (Thisco) DJ/Rupture : low income tomorrowland (Tax) Aethenor : deep ocean sunk the lamp of light (VHF) Tunng : comments of the inner chorus (Talitres) Spade & Archer : highway to jail (0101) Filastine : burn it (Soot) The DFA Remixes chapter 1 (DFA) Vitamins For You : the legend of bird's hill (Intr:Version) Brain Damage : spoken dub manifesto (Jarring Effects) Freiband : flying (Scarcelight) Spies under Von Magnet influence : shape your shade (Thisco) Doormouse : xylophonejism (Cock Rock Disco) The Knife : silent shout (V2) Bill Wells & Maher Shalal Hash Baz : osaka bridge (Karaoke Kalk) I'm Not A Gun : we think as instruments (City Centre Offices) Slepcy : we are the newest battle models (Cock Rock Disco) I Like Trains : progress reform (Talitres) Natsume : marakesi no hana (Noble/Creative) You & the Atom Bomb : shake shake hello?! (Sink and Stove) Inch-Time : as the moon draws water (Static Caravan) Erik Amlee : sitar vol.2 (Mandragora) Galaktlan : constance (Kohvi) Galaktlan : laanetaguse suivi (Kohvi) Black Forest/Black Sea : s/t (Asphalt Duchess) Violet : the sun is shining and the flowers are blooming on violet street (Scarcelight) VA. tryptaphonic mind explosion (Mandragora) VA. plit Matthew Rozeik / Ylid (Static Caravan) KK Null : kosmo incognita (Thisco) Evol. : punani shell (Scarcelight) Daniel Meteo : peruments (Shitkatapult) R. Sundin : the amateur hermetic (Komplott) Pupkulies & Rebecca : the way we (Normoton) BiP_HOp Philippe Petit B. P 80064 13192 MARSEILLE CEDEX 20 France --Mailsmith-7D3E7B22-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">BiP_HOp Generation on Radio Grenouille // 88.8 FM</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Wednesday evenings : 19:10 - 20:30 PM // Marseille // France</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal American Typewriter; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">May 2006 Playlist</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal American Typewriter; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> ARTIST ALBUM label</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal American Typewriter; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hanne Hukkelberg : break my body (Leaf)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Guapo : black oni (Ipecac)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Triosk : the headlight serenade (Leaf)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Leo Abrahams : honeytrap (Just Music)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Bästard : yet, reloaded... 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