From Jon Sent Thu, Aug 31st 2006, 16:05
> Yeah, I saw this on boingboing.net, it sounds good too! It's funny > how in math departments, there really are a lot of musicians. If only > there were more math-rockstars. Erm.... Chicago? Louisville? .... ... ... ... ... ... ... dizzydonor.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 31 16:03:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40012-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 92319 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:03:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 92293 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:03:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:03:01 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jazz math In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p9OMYkTPu4pXPz7jXCa7X2WVaW14kkWo2A+Smx14qWod9IrQrNZjmmDadJYgFgYny2H+wBSeaUCr24a2ishaGk9WLs6Spnfwji6Ba7CtGn+Oo2XcMSClgv0f0RHXNlZPzg1zTZHcJ9Ha9xkNAHiyV8SFScQ4O5PiJhCK3ZYK1wo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yeah, I saw this on boingboing.net, it sounds good too! It's funny how in math departments, there really are a lot of musicians. If only there were more math-rockstars. ~Kyle On 8/31/06, Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/s5jxn > > not microsound...but an overt application of math concepts to musical > structure > > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 31 15:43:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40011-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83511 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:43:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 83501 invoked from network); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:43:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:38:21 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] jazz math To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mlUFM9k4SoDv/gWvYsG10Q)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_mlUFM9k4SoDv/gWvYsG10Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://tinyurl.com/s5jxn not microsound...but an overt application of math concepts to musical structure --Boundary_(ID_mlUFM9k4SoDv/gWvYsG10Q)-- From ???@??? Tue Aug 29 16:51:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40010-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34028 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:51:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 34014 invoked from network); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:51:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 09:51:14 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] glitchy graphics To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+Pwfzk7k+i7a2xai1JqWNA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_+Pwfzk7k+i7a2xai1JqWNA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://wificamera.propositions.org.uk/ an interesting way to turn Wi-Fi signals into projected imagery --Boundary_(ID_+Pwfzk7k+i7a2xai1JqWNA)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 19:57:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40009-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46498 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:57:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 46486 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:57:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:57:33 -0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?44OL44Kz44Op44K544O744Kx44Oz44OI?= <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This does sound like a pitch for U.S. government mad money. I wouldn't be surprised is the neural net is just a handy buzzword to make an AI claim. For the person asking, an algorithm has a predetermined sequence of steps that result in a solution. A neural net tries to "learn" how to most successfully solve a problem by trying different solutions and somehow weighting it's own results so as to refine further solutions. > The computer we use is doing the work without an algorithmic > program. It uses a system called a neural net, which is designed > for the computer to teach itself. Basically, it works on trial and > error," Casazza said. "This isn't consistent and cannot be > duplicated easily. We need to find a way to design an implementable > algorithm that could do this consistently and quickly." Sounds like a total "gotcha" to me. The unsaid factor is how is the neural net being refined? I've got the feeling "trial and error" means there's a human involved informing the neural net how successful or unsuccessful it's output is. You know, how else would it know it was performing better in this situation as the results are perceptual rather than quantifiable? It's not likely figuring this out on it's own, it's probably right now just a set of potentially but not necessarily new noise reduction tools probably guided by the feedback of a human monitor. The issue is primarily qualitative not quantitative and sounds like it's eluded a single solution they might wish for. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 19:30:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40008-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34184 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:30:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 34169 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:30:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:30:47 -0400 From: Adam Young <xxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Echo Audiofire 4 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm considering purchasing an Echo Audiofire 4 for my mobile performance machine. I'm a little uneasy though as I can't find any reviews anywhere. But I like Echo and I love everything i've read about this unit. Can anyone provide any experience-based feedback on this particular unit or have any advice? Thanks -Adam adam young www.adyo.info www.direwires.com | www.tractile.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 19:09:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40007-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 26849 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:09:27 +0200 From: isjtar junior <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at okno.be X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Op 27-aug-06 om 21:03 heeft Balazs Gerofi het volgende geschreven: > I think anything that a neural network does is represented by an > algorithm. > They might mean that they proved some sort of an existence theorem. > Anyway, this "not reproducible neural network" sounds quite strange:) non-reproducible as in situation specific probably... > > Regards, > Balazs > > On 8/27/06, David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> I believe what they mean is, the results cannot be reproduced, unless >> the neural network is properly trained. Without the training, which >> was possibly done on a trial-and-error basis, the neural network will >> not give successful results. >> >> The neural network itself is an algorithm, but there is no algorithm >> that you can run and get the successful results without the step of >> training the neural net. >> >> Although - I believe the training process itself should be able to be >> represented by an algorithm ... >> >> ~David >> >> On 8/27/06, Balazs Gerofi <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > the article says: >> > "The computer we use is doing the work without an algorithmic >> program. >> It >> > uses a system called a neural net..." >> > >> > May I ask someone to explain why a neural network is not an >> algorithm? >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > Balazs >> > >> > On 8/26/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 26-Aug-06, at 3:02 PM, isjtar junior wrote: >> > > >> > > > hi, >> > > > >> > > > that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one? >> > > > thanks >> > > > >> > > > isjtar >> > > > Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende >> geschreven: >> > > > >> > > >> New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? >> > > >> [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] >> > > >> >> > > >> /Cheers, >> > > >> /Hasse >> > > >> >> > > >> -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard >> > > >> disclaimer file active >> > > >> "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno >> > > >> >> > > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > ----------------------------- >> > > > http://www.isjtar.org >> > > > http://www.societyofalgorithm.org >> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > ----------------------------- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- http://www.isjtar.org http://www.societyofalgorithm.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 19:03:58 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40006-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24217 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:03:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 24204 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:03:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:03:28 +0000 From: Balazs Gerofi <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Ru0jEiyrfGsa60O0tr6TBA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R47uGMMD67D1t4r7nxbvjxEMU4IyxccYTNK5ENlYz8ja50Q35Pv8xFgBUwlMp3i8jFfuD29Y7ZKUnTnJHy5YKYEcbelM/fVKO0nwJHOZgwqrFzRXiEakdqmPm0eJlrPWCRv8cB9cifzZSQg9oHV9YQXJLfCb7QF7hRWCMW8sQaU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Ru0jEiyrfGsa60O0tr6TBA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think anything that a neural network does is represented by an algorithm. They might mean that they proved some sort of an existence theorem. Anyway, this "not reproducible neural network" sounds quite strange:) Regards, Balazs On 8/27/06, David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I believe what they mean is, the results cannot be reproduced, unless > the neural network is properly trained. Without the training, which > was possibly done on a trial-and-error basis, the neural network will > not give successful results. > > The neural network itself is an algorithm, but there is no algorithm > that you can run and get the successful results without the step of > training the neural net. > > Although - I believe the training process itself should be able to be > represented by an algorithm ... > > ~David > > On 8/27/06, Balazs Gerofi <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the article says: > > "The computer we use is doing the work without an algorithmic program. > It > > uses a system called a neural net..." > > > > May I ask someone to explain why a neural network is not an algorithm? > > > > > > Regards, > > Balazs > > > > On 8/26/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009 > > > > > > > > > > > > On 26-Aug-06, at 3:02 PM, isjtar junior wrote: > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > isjtar > > > > Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende > geschreven: > > > > > > > >> New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? > > > >> [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] > > > >> > > > >> /Cheers, > > > >> /Hasse > > > >> > > > >> -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard > > > >> disclaimer file active > > > >> "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > http://www.isjtar.org > > > > http://www.societyofalgorithm.org > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_Ru0jEiyrfGsa60O0tr6TBA)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 18:54:03 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40005-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20822 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:53:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 20809 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:53:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:53:41 -0500 From: David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Kdcz2CFOdqA2l8fJihpd+RhzwuvQi+F5icrL8wrISBV+UFcF9eH58097Uz+XpRmydR35jT5D5oBdEZ4551QrIK5okAIGM6o5jPLjRBGczDwheHGnunNJpReZNfpuRuloOBc6SpQ3TqOE5lzkfgNan/5DXc42zrID0ADjnvJPy2E= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I believe what they mean is, the results cannot be reproduced, unless the neural network is properly trained. Without the training, which was possibly done on a trial-and-error basis, the neural network will not give successful results. The neural network itself is an algorithm, but there is no algorithm that you can run and get the successful results without the step of training the neural net. Although - I believe the training process itself should be able to be represented by an algorithm ... ~David On 8/27/06, Balazs Gerofi <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi, > > the article says: > "The computer we use is doing the work without an algorithmic program. It > uses a system called a neural net..." > > May I ask someone to explain why a neural network is not an algorithm? > > > Regards, > Balazs > > On 8/26/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009 > > > > > > > > On 26-Aug-06, at 3:02 PM, isjtar junior wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > > > that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one? > > > thanks > > > > > > isjtar > > > Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende geschreven: > > > > > >> New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? > > >> [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] > > >> > > >> /Cheers, > > >> /Hasse > > >> > > >> -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard > > >> disclaimer file active > > >> "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > >> > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------- > > > http://www.isjtar.org > > > http://www.societyofalgorithm.org > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 18:47:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40004-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17902 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:47:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 17892 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:47:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:47:21 +0000 From: Balazs Gerofi <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AISCNrMpEE59XNUADh8SJA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WNrBSgEpEX/wa1qKs+m3hw1YVdTzx8vyGmVlivFb4IVf0YGorcVnYUcbRjJKEdPo3uaygqIbGDtIaX7OpEtLSzAaF1wJtGj4hOlQJYqedmNp9WOB2kpriFLdCrlos/MdlJRzb1eGbC7XAeewaT3smC4kf2Il0cDk03Gg1Wyii8A= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_AISCNrMpEE59XNUADh8SJA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, the article says: "The computer we use is doing the work without an algorithmic program. It uses a system called a neural net..." May I ask someone to explain why a neural network is not an algorithm? Regards, Balazs On 8/26/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > >> > > >> http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009 > > > > On 26-Aug-06, at 3:02 PM, isjtar junior wrote: > > > hi, > > > > that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one? > > thanks > > > > isjtar > > Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende geschreven: > > > >> New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? > >> [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] > >> > >> /Cheers, > >> /Hasse > >> > >> -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard > >> disclaimer file active > >> "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------- > > http://www.isjtar.org > > http://www.societyofalgorithm.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_AISCNrMpEE59XNUADh8SJA)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 27 07:04:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40003-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46380 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:03:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 46368 invoked from network); Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:03:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:27:15 -0400 From: doug van nort <xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R.I.P. James Tenney To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sad news. James Tenney should be known as a pioneer and inspiration to microsounders and more generally to those who consider the use of technology and the computer as a means to explore new avenues of musical creation/expression. > -- James Tenney 1934-2006 Inbox > David Rosenboom > <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> to Tenney.Announc. > More options 4:59 pm (26 minutes ago) > Dear Friends and Colleagues, > > I write both to communicate sad news about the passing of our esteemed > and revered colleague, composer, James Tenney, and to begin an > invocation to celebrate the boundlessly creative spirit and uniquely > productive life of a great musical artist. Jim died peacefully late > Thursday night, August 24th, 2006 after a difficult battle with > cancer. His tenacity in life and his determined, affirming energy > never wavered. His keenly focused composing and theoretical work > continued nearly to his last moments. During recent years at CalArts, > Jim taught the works of composers he referred to as American musical > mavericks. Clearly he was also one of the greats among them. History > will remember him as a vitally significant American artist. Jim was a > faculty member in the School of Music in the early 1970s when CalArts > was finding footing as a somewhat maverick arts institution, and he > returned later in the 1990s to assume the Roy E. Disney Family Chair > in Musical Composition. In the interim, he taught at the University of > California at Santa Cruz and York University, in Toronto. Jim's mere > presence on campus was always inspiring, touching countless lives over > the years. A master teacher, treasured by so many, he was also a close > personal friend and often collaborator over at least three decades. He > will be greatly missed, and we will continue to celebrate the > continuity, the power, and the encouraging, constructive quality of > his influence, along with his devotion to the forward evolution of > music as an essential force in the life of all human kind. > > A brief memorial service will be held in Roy O. Disney Recital Hall at > CalArts on Monday, August 28th, 2006 at 11:00 AM. A concert > celebrating Tenney's life and work will be planned for later in the > fall. > > A brief biography of Tenney can be found at: > http://www.calarts.edu/schools/music/faculty/tenney.html > > > David Rosenboom, Composer/Performer > Dean, School of Music > California Institute of the Arts > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 26 21:15:01 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40002-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86813 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:14:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 86802 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:14:36 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:54:28 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <a06230926c114efcd1329@[81.230.155.154]> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> >> http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009 On 26-Aug-06, at 3:02 PM, isjtar junior wrote: > hi, > > that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one? > thanks > > isjtar > Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende geschreven: > >> New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? >> [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] >> >> /Cheers, >> /Hasse >> >> -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard >> disclaimer file active >> "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------- > http://www.isjtar.org > http://www.societyofalgorithm.org > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 26 19:02:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40001-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47815 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:02:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 47801 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:02:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:02:22 +0200 From: isjtar junior <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <a06230926c114efcd1329@[81.230.155.154]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at okno.be X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <a06230926c114efcd1329@[81.230.155.154]> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, that link doesn't seem to work, care to fix me a different one? thanks isjtar Op 25-aug-06 om 20:22 heeft Hans Erik Nilsson het volgende geschreven: > New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? > [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] > > /Cheers, > /Hasse > > -- > Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard disclaimer > file active > "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- http://www.isjtar.org http://www.societyofalgorithm.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 26 15:57:54 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-40000-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72301 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:57:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 72289 invoked from network); Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:57:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:57:40 -0400 From: "\\js" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qQ2Hc3ZFK49+xwI8jsxypv0QMjh2QZxIFJHjtRpvSXLP/uA7uBgwyJc00fpFBe5xSWylvK6zVCJdEq+EzAfRWMXp0A4RtyywBi9ug33BT4J9qEQKq/SnhBYWwnj5FTfhcSvHI1V3BmTwCrcYc4YUFHxzvyCNp6eS4YjxyQm3aVk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On 8/25/06, Exegene <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > It's remarkable that developments are not occuring apace that would allow > the individual to be less in danger of persecution. i guess it depends on your expectations. in the us, individual freedoms and their protection seem to have taken a back seat to 'security' considerations. [security for whom?] > Even if there's no way found > in defense of these intelligence gathering measures, there's certainly > opportunity for artistic application. indeed- artists can do amazing things with all kinds of tools. i guess if the paper reveals the math in sufficient detail we could expect a vst plug-in at some point. artistic output, though, seems to be the bastard child that no one wants to take care of [typically]. military and industrial concerns are nourished with economic resources. the artists must fend for themselves [as has often been the case throughout civilizations of all types]. -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 23:51:10 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39999-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14325 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:50:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 14315 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:50:49 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:50:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Exegene <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at devo.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, \js wrote: *snip* > great- those idiots aren't happy enough turning the middle east into > an orgy of bloodletting, now they want to sift through conversations > in public places to put people who might mention islam into our > already overpopulated prisons. *snip* It's a number of developments in applied maths fields that are frightening in certain hands - by following the money, they can be assumed to be in those hands with, with widespread use appearing only too soon. It's remarkable that developments are not occuring apace that would allow the individual to be less in danger of persecution. Here, microsound and these maths intersect. Even if there's no way found in defense of these intelligence gathering measures, there's certainly opportunity for artistic application. The forthcoming papers will be great reading, certainly. -- Dear Patron Saint, your lips are lopsided www.devo.com/exegene --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 21:19:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39998-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61598 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:19:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 61588 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:19:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:39:41 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx absolutely. reverse karaoke. i have a hard time believing the results would be the same fidelity of a soloed track, though. there has to be some crosstalk involved, particularly with overlapping frequencies. if only harry caul had this software in 'the conversation.' g. > > Using neural nets to differentiate multiple signals from a single > source may have a profound impact on audio recordings as we know them! > Being able to mute or solo out a single voice from a stereo recording > would be a great tool for learning and remixing. Still, this > technology is very far away in terms of fidelity, but it is amazing to > imagine! > > ~Kyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 20:19:20 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39997-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37488 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:18:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 37441 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:18:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:18:36 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cCRWJ+0zWQbZIKxXMTUIVwMKl4CYkY91d/TS+HRAiVSGhv0z2UPNeDNE/iMRCLOycUzZNpg5yqM7omAvmeYcGxaXOh3ImtHr7Jz3ruEaszxKM5Ej3Hsq5Mm1sGrAQwCk2dl4+pSAgVHlkJeIy0CVAEzecvn96Dz7Ic/O+jhHENU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think that the implications of this technique are very exciting. I can't recall how many times someone asks me if there is a good way to capture single layers or voices from a recording, either to remove it or solo it, and I always say that it would take some kind of AI to do it. Using neural nets to differentiate multiple signals from a single source may have a profound impact on audio recordings as we know them! Being able to mute or solo out a single voice from a stereo recording would be a great tool for learning and remixing. Still, this technology is very far away in terms of fidelity, but it is amazing to imagine! ~Kyle On 8/25/06, js <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hi > > On 8/25/06, Hans Erik Nilsson <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? > > [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] > > if only! > > from the article: > The National Science Foundation and the National Security Agency > funded part of the research, which could have crime fighting, homeland > security and other intelligence applications. > > great- those idiots aren't happy enough turning the middle east into > an orgy of bloodletting, now they want to sift through conversations > in public places to put people who might mention islam into our > already overpopulated prisons. > > excellent. > > war is peace > freedom is slavery > ignorance is strength > > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > i love big brother > [ad nauseum] > > -- > \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 19:02:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39996-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40216 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:55:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 40192 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:55:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:55:04 -0400 From: "\\js" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j6vgGHiAX8UkQzrrDi+FjncR84Gjt+kj6RPqbpqTHzuGpjVt4wohay5f/8LJsVZbNiA2H8XUWF6cTdBD0EH3d9euc7ve5l3oYEeY/BI2cqtsGQahn9V9dO5upra6zvngF8cd5TSy70C2MPWe4RNEKdqRpNU0VS8MnMk2DXY7QTA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi On 8/25/06, Hans Erik Nilsson <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? > [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] if only! from the article: The National Science Foundation and the National Security Agency funded part of the research, which could have crime fighting, homeland security and other intelligence applications. great- those idiots aren't happy enough turning the middle east into an orgy of bloodletting, now they want to sift through conversations in public places to put people who might mention islam into our already overpopulated prisons. excellent. war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother i love big brother [ad nauseum] -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 18:43:07 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39995-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32593 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:42:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 32577 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:42:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyrill <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software and puredata In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_R/2DDZMSliGPZbnvN61drg)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ag4p7zw5I1Lvc9XDLQe9cDrRxIjjCkAeaLtc2fjBtA5V5apPz4e1oMMqHEmmchjD8O7nZiSKE2VU4GTxi1DmmgaaOtWjnsaNfKwR4RjKLt2Evwa9Cdk8GSHf82zav5/zW6+Jf8IF5SpLrx/HOzZ2gvoE9MPlphq7Khk9zbptiHA= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_R/2DDZMSliGPZbnvN61drg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My fault here, im afraid... I posted the link and then we decided to move the pd patches to another and more logical place, ie extensions/. anyway, these patches are old working versions, i am not sure they all work well, they should have been removed and replaced by the new ones. I am going to do that tomorrow in 1067 minutes or so. Cyrill. --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --Boundary_(ID_R/2DDZMSliGPZbnvN61drg)-- From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 18:22:25 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39994-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21656 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:22:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 21645 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:22:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:22:06 +0200 From: Hans Erik Nilsson <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Math Professors Solve 'Cocktail Party' Problem To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06230926c114efcd1329@[81.230.155.154]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx New adventures in field recordings: Paparazzi soundbites? [http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/192300009] /Cheers, /Hasse -- Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 | Standard disclaimer file active "There are many futures and only one status quo" - Brian Eno --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 18:21:34 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39993-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20616 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:21:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 20604 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:21:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:20:49 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software and puredata In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mail-followup-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > Haha you're right Frank, just after you previous hint post too! I'm a > lousy student :-). No problem, I'm glad to help. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 17:27:17 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39992-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89954 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:26:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 89938 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:26:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:26:50 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software and puredata In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DjATV0Kr06O7P/LSgNygG3DFw2SXQjw5h+M6+KFBrr+tt1hTWsDVFjpDcTjyEMZNN5DkHSGMpwK5zl06/A8Ql8qBq8xDMDIKHrAlSffgW8oy+5uq7aMferY8iSQh0cbFO9WaCDfzDpP+eKDkZ4NLfvvpHiTU+1/yFOHVc6Kdrtg= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Haha you're right Frank, just after you previous hint post too! I'm a lousy student :-). ~Kyle On 8/25/06, Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hallo, > Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > > > I tried the link, and got a 404 message from the server. Is the > > address correct? > > What happened to the art of ... ;) > > http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/iannix/extensions/puredata/ > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 17:01:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39991-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77309 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:01:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 77297 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:01:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:00:57 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software and puredata In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mail-followup-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > I tried the link, and got a 404 message from the server. Is the > address correct? What happened to the art of ... ;) http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/iannix/extensions/puredata/ Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 15:56:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39990-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46112 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:56:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 46098 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:56:41 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:56:38 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software and puredata In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tHDYORq4Bx0MBUa97TkhPnWwqoL2pyMAtEnEvgehcJdlCSgGo4rV7qM3tOJk/inDNpL+I6sFRLzVzsxEHaLE5qnfFRAkaKMUNrLiAstHQepK0cnR8iChKnzhVLX9KCGlgEEsGE7hJNbcdIZ+y/d4MhGeUxXGO9AemcAjJO5Ey5s= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Cyrill~ I tried the link, and got a 404 message from the server. Is the address correct? ~Kyle On 8/25/06, xxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxx.xx <xxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Actually there are some pd demo patches in the svn: > http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/iannix/src/plugins/puredata/ > > Cyrill. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 15:13:01 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39989-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24482 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:12:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 24470 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:12:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:13:02 +0200 From: "xxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxx.xx" <xxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software and puredata In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxx@xx-xxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Actually there are some pd demo patches in the svn: http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/iannix/src/plugins/puredata/ Cyrill. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 14:20:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39988-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97085 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:20:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 97075 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:20:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:13:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyrill <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dL4dSUKO/+wBQxwbk+5ofQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=m7BRRqtH36tOMIhokgxAc+Dibp2K5pDqhKJMtgiRZRL5ePOywJS0OYbcPGjB3cfuxRAu0LcF4sEyvkUHFmQdc0Gigjk2bDec62AeuH01595zHPoIRbdwq0+WaW3wAUEtG71kJf4VmmioUISH42A6WVFvAZ2Rl6DIyBQNHd2rr04= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dL4dSUKO/+wBQxwbk+5ofQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi and thanks for your interest for the time being IanniX only works on Linux and OSX, but there is a win32 binary scheduled... And yes, there are going to be demo-patches for pd. For csound, as i am an absolute beginner with it, i still have to figure out how to receive OSC packets - the opcode i found doesn't seem to work). Cyrill Brent Colflesh <xxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: I am also interested in Win32 binary. David Powers wrote: > Is there a Win32 binary available? All I saw on CVS was a release that > seems to be the source files only... > > ~David > > On 8/25/06, Cyrill wrote: >> Hi there >> >> I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while, and now i have at >> last the opportunity to post some (hopefully) useful information. >> >> I have been an intern at la-kitchen.fr for two months now, and I am >> working with Pierre Jullian de La Fuente on the new version of IanniX; >> a webpage dedicated to this project has been recently opened on >> sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/iannix, along with a new >> mailing-list in english. >> >> Basically IanniX is based on the Upic from Iannis Xenakis - hence the >> name -, the main difference being that the synthesis part has been >> removed from the software. IanniX sends instead OSC messages and so >> can be used as a graphical score editor along with pd, Max-msp, SC, >> Csound and other softwares that support OSC. So it allows graphical >> and easy control over software synthesis and composition, without the >> constraint of being bounded to an internal set of sound generators. >> >> The current version on the cvs is still a bit buggy but has >> nevertheless improved a lot since the 0.54 one; amidst others, some of >> the improvments are: >> >> - portage to qt4 (however, for the time being you do need to install >> qt4 libs first; the needed libraries will soon be embedded within >> IanniX, though) >> - a (very) more user-friendly interface >> - lots of new functionalities to edit objects, mainly the curves. >> >> Though I am not the best person to give you an objective advice, I >> think it is a very powerful tool, and is going to be even better in >> some time. And if some microsounders could be so kind as to try and >> test it, and to report us bugs we could have overseen, or ask for >> features they think useful, it would be really great. >> >> Cyrill. >> >> Rod Stasick wrote: >> On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> > Just play around with the URLs around >> > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what >> > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example >> > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or >> > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example >> > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. >> >> >> Frank! 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Fri Aug 25 13:59:33 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39987-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85833 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:59:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 85677 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:59:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:58:52 -0400 From: Brent Colflesh <xxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Received-SPF: none X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I am also interested in Win32 binary. David Powers wrote: > Is there a Win32 binary available? All I saw on CVS was a release that > seems to be the source files only... > > ~David > > On 8/25/06, Cyrill <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Hi there >> >> I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while, and now i have at >> last the opportunity to post some (hopefully) useful information. >> >> I have been an intern at la-kitchen.fr for two months now, and I am >> working with Pierre Jullian de La Fuente on the new version of IanniX; >> a webpage dedicated to this project has been recently opened on >> sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/iannix, along with a new >> mailing-list in english. >> >> Basically IanniX is based on the Upic from Iannis Xenakis - hence the >> name -, the main difference being that the synthesis part has been >> removed from the software. IanniX sends instead OSC messages and so >> can be used as a graphical score editor along with pd, Max-msp, SC, >> Csound and other softwares that support OSC. So it allows graphical >> and easy control over software synthesis and composition, without the >> constraint of being bounded to an internal set of sound generators. >> >> The current version on the cvs is still a bit buggy but has >> nevertheless improved a lot since the 0.54 one; amidst others, some of >> the improvments are: >> >> - portage to qt4 (however, for the time being you do need to install >> qt4 libs first; the needed libraries will soon be embedded within >> IanniX, though) >> - a (very) more user-friendly interface >> - lots of new functionalities to edit objects, mainly the curves. >> >> Though I am not the best person to give you an objective advice, I >> think it is a very powerful tool, and is going to be even better in >> some time. And if some microsounders could be so kind as to try and >> test it, and to report us bugs we could have overseen, or ask for >> features they think useful, it would be really great. >> >> Cyrill. >> >> Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> > Just play around with the URLs around >> > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what >> > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example >> > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or >> > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example >> > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. >> >> >> Frank! Can I now call you "The Handyman"? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Rod >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Saku >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. 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Fri Aug 25 13:56:12 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39986-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82579 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:55:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 82555 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:55:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:55:43 -0500 From: David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? 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All I saw on CVS was a release that seems to be the source files only... ~David On 8/25/06, Cyrill <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi there > > I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while, and now i have at last the opportunity to post some (hopefully) useful information. > > I have been an intern at la-kitchen.fr for two months now, and I am working with Pierre Jullian de La Fuente on the new version of IanniX; a webpage dedicated to this project has been recently opened on sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/iannix, along with a new mailing-list in english. > > Basically IanniX is based on the Upic from Iannis Xenakis - hence the name -, the main difference being that the synthesis part has been removed from the software. IanniX sends instead OSC messages and so can be used as a graphical score editor along with pd, Max-msp, SC, Csound and other softwares that support OSC. So it allows graphical and easy control over software synthesis and composition, without the constraint of being bounded to an internal set of sound generators. > > The current version on the cvs is still a bit buggy but has nevertheless improved a lot since the 0.54 one; amidst others, some of the improvments are: > > - portage to qt4 (however, for the time being you do need to install qt4 libs first; the needed libraries will soon be embedded within IanniX, though) > - a (very) more user-friendly interface > - lots of new functionalities to edit objects, mainly the curves. > > Though I am not the best person to give you an objective advice, I think it is a very powerful tool, and is going to be even better in some time. And if some microsounders could be so kind as to try and test it, and to report us bugs we could have overseen, or ask for features they think useful, it would be really great. > > Cyrill. > > Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Just play around with the URLs around > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. > > > Frank! Can I now call you "The Handyman"? > > Thanks! > > > Rod > > > > > > > --- > Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Saku > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 13:55:53 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39985-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82268 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:55:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 82258 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:55:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 08:55:40 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iEeE6ELlER6X+knBn32ifqXPpxIBBBtYmza6ytM1g/tOK5li399jfoWdhVuiN15Wy4/twm7zj3vDfARJ8NMELDE3LL2CQ1mGKo4FEszy1jWD8MPFHqAT6TAd0sgIAwFnL1ztInPPR47KOJKTb8dp15aB7MZexeum5LeLWcdHA/Y= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This is an awesome development, Cyrill! Will you be including a Pd help patch and Csound orchestra/score as examples in the distribution? ~Kyle On 8/25/06, Cyrill <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hi there > > I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while, and now i have at last the opportunity to post some (hopefully) useful information. > > I have been an intern at la-kitchen.fr for two months now, and I am working with Pierre Jullian de La Fuente on the new version of IanniX; a webpage dedicated to this project has been recently opened on sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/iannix, along with a new mailing-list in english. > > Basically IanniX is based on the Upic from Iannis Xenakis - hence the name -, the main difference being that the synthesis part has been removed from the software. IanniX sends instead OSC messages and so can be used as a graphical score editor along with pd, Max-msp, SC, Csound and other softwares that support OSC. So it allows graphical and easy control over software synthesis and composition, without the constraint of being bounded to an internal set of sound generators. > > The current version on the cvs is still a bit buggy but has nevertheless improved a lot since the 0.54 one; amidst others, some of the improvments are: > > - portage to qt4 (however, for the time being you do need to install qt4 libs first; the needed libraries will soon be embedded within IanniX, though) > - a (very) more user-friendly interface > - lots of new functionalities to edit objects, mainly the curves. > > Though I am not the best person to give you an objective advice, I think it is a very powerful tool, and is going to be even better in some time. And if some microsounders could be so kind as to try and test it, and to report us bugs we could have overseen, or ask for features they think useful, it would be really great. > > Cyrill. > > Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Just play around with the URLs around > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. > > > Frank! 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Fri Aug 25 13:51:18 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39984-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80324 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:51:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 80309 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:50:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Cyrill <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_38M+8yaGrxtYpl6KZSSocA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VThjzeRy6XgRyIjaEmOHcrutkYImV08vaW3KRO5LwyiWcEioR/CQSG1eXZwSebpkmh3v1CLWNrs1fe9HcHDoaVhsYQYRhyTM6/cuXr+S7rcv0uy8RTgei91mdq1oEGvt4VgpycenZd9AJyU/Agq2oqwNY62Sli1hjf/bJoQYJzY= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_38M+8yaGrxtYpl6KZSSocA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi there I have been a lurker on this list for quite a while, and now i have at last the opportunity to post some (hopefully) useful information. I have been an intern at la-kitchen.fr for two months now, and I am working with Pierre Jullian de La Fuente on the new version of IanniX; a webpage dedicated to this project has been recently opened on sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/iannix, along with a new mailing-list in english. Basically IanniX is based on the Upic from Iannis Xenakis - hence the name -, the main difference being that the synthesis part has been removed from the software. IanniX sends instead OSC messages and so can be used as a graphical score editor along with pd, Max-msp, SC, Csound and other softwares that support OSC. So it allows graphical and easy control over software synthesis and composition, without the constraint of being bounded to an internal set of sound generators. The current version on the cvs is still a bit buggy but has nevertheless improved a lot since the 0.54 one; amidst others, some of the improvments are: - portage to qt4 (however, for the time being you do need to install qt4 libs first; the needed libraries will soon be embedded within IanniX, though) - a (very) more user-friendly interface - lots of new functionalities to edit objects, mainly the curves. Though I am not the best person to give you an objective advice, I think it is a very powerful tool, and is going to be even better in some time. And if some microsounders could be so kind as to try and test it, and to report us bugs we could have overseen, or ask for features they think useful, it would be really great. Cyrill. Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Just play around with the URLs around > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. Frank! Can I now call you "The Handyman"? Thanks! Rod --- Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Saku --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. --Boundary_(ID_38M+8yaGrxtYpl6KZSSocA)-- From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 05:30:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39983-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81247 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 05:29:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 81237 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 05:29:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:29:12 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C114C7C8.45B2%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] iannix software? Thread-index: AcbIB2WCpFsYZDP6EduwGwAWy4ns3A== X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx And I just added a baby to my mix :) On 25/8/06 2:24 PM, "Graham Miller" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > i think a naw humdrum prototype should take precedence over those > synchronized swimming gigs you've been doing as of late:) > > On 24-Aug-06, at 10:59 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > >> >> sure Ill get right on it right after the 1000000000000 other things >> on my list of things that NEEDS to get done... >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey Neil! Would you build us all a "HumDrum" >>> I'm sure the possibilities could be quite fantastic! >>> >>> >>> R >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Capriccio And The Innovative Composer >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> ============================ >> www.phoniq.net >> releases available on: >> www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> publication: >> www.vagueterrain.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms Wednesday nights / 10pm - 12am 102.7 FM / www.rrr.org.au Melbourne / Australia xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 04:58:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39982-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66701 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:57:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 66688 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:57:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:57:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hahaha.... On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Graham Miller wrote: > i think a naw humdrum prototype should take precedence over those > synchronized swimming gigs you've been doing as of late:) > > On 24-Aug-06, at 10:59 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > >> >> sure Ill get right on it right after the 1000000000000 other things on my >> list of things that NEEDS to get done... >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey Neil! Would you build us all a "HumDrum" >>> I'm sure the possibilities could be quite fantastic! >>> >>> >>> R >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Capriccio And The Innovative Composer >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> ============================ >> www.phoniq.net >> releases available on: >> www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> publication: >> www.vagueterrain.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 04:45:05 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39981-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59684 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:44:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 59672 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:44:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:24:23 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think a naw humdrum prototype should take precedence over those synchronized swimming gigs you've been doing as of late:) On 24-Aug-06, at 10:59 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > sure Ill get right on it right after the 1000000000000 other things > on my list of things that NEEDS to get done... > > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: > >> >> Hey Neil! Would you build us all a "HumDrum" >> I'm sure the possibilities could be quite fantastic! >> >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Capriccio And The Innovative Composer >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > ============================ > www.phoniq.net > releases available on: > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > publication: > www.vagueterrain.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 02:59:12 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39980-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17889 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:58:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 17877 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:58:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sure Ill get right on it right after the 1000000000000 other things on my list of things that NEEDS to get done... On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: > > Hey Neil! Would you build us all a "HumDrum" > I'm sure the possibilities could be quite fantastic! > > > R > > > > > > > --- > Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Capriccio And The Innovative Composer > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 01:46:30 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39979-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82645 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:45:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 82630 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:45:55 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:45:49 -0700 From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: iannix software? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kK8M1wpMCz1UQJgBR80g1fGTFOuLUthu7QyNcNnCp1eYujI36UvWB7aok+xlGZqEsCnRinEiRk1xf/NPEaQfaQmrG4OMVEEO06mXVW2pWMOtaWqmBhylqiNF0oYB7j4mX8MyEPU9xI+OMJ43Y0f53ZJ+Hfsr2um4a7+LBgupXK0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Iannix doesn't seem to have been developed at all for a while. Hyperupic might be a better bet, as the basic functionality is similar IIRC. Iannix was originally recommended to me as a program for stochastic synthesis, but it's not. It's more along the line of his UPIC stuff. Sergio Luque, a Mexican composer, did some interesting stuff with stochastic synthesis at the Institute of Sonology. There are some pieces up on his website (http://sergioluque.com/), along with his thesis. You might also drop him line if you have use for the SuperCollider code. You might also give Stochos a shot: http://sonic-disorder.com/ ~pt -- "If the other could be possessed, seized, and known, it would not be the other. To possess, to know, to grasp are all synonyms of power. To see and to know, to have and to will, unfold only within the oppressive and luminous identity of the same." ~ Emmanuel Levinas ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Phil Thomson, BFA, MFA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://www.philthomson.ca/ http://del.icio.us/hellomynameisphil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 01:01:47 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39978-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45034 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:01:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 45018 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 01:01:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:00:38 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:55 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > gee thanks but talk for your self my existance is far from humdrum!! Hey Neil! Would you build us all a "HumDrum" I'm sure the possibilities could be quite fantastic! R --- Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Capriccio And The Innovative Composer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 25 00:07:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39977-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55091 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:06:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 54914 invoked from network); Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:05:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:27:28 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] UPIC To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://membres.lycos.fr/musicand/INSTRUMENT/DIGITAL/UPIC/UPIC.htm here you'll find all the dirty details and some sweet pictures. now i must return to my humdrum existence and, more specifically, season 2 of battlestar galactica... g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 22:18:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39976-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8031 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:17:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 8008 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:17:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:17:28 +0200 From: Imoteon <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-ME-UUID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Didn't he build the UPIC at the CEMAMu (now known as CCMIX) ? http://portal.unesco.org/culture/fr/ev.php- URL_ID=26538&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html Sorry, link only in French. Auto-translation may be enough though. Julien. Le 24 août 06 à 23:09, Kyle Klipowicz a écrit : > Thanks for the tip, Frank! > > For those who aren't aware, UPIC was developed by Iannis Xenakis as > IRCAM, and is a computer program that generates sound based on drawing > sketches on a frequency vs. time graph. I know that Metasynth has > similar features, but costs a pretty penny. It will be neat to see if > this free software is any good! > > For some odd reason, I could not find an English Wikipedia entry about > UPIC. You can read about it and many other interesting creations in > The Computer Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads. > > ~Kyle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 21:41:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39975-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89673 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:41:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 89661 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:41:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:41:25 -0400 (EDT) From: d4l3d <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? X-Sender: xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PHP Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 80775b2f825337d6f7c5fcfd93fd260b X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Their second pg. can be accessed in the same way; http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix2.html Run this thru Babelfish and you can get a somewhat fractured version of their background info. It's a bit too long to post. d4l3d ----------------------------------------------- --- On Thu 08/24, Rod Stasick < xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > wrote:From: Rod Stasick [mailto: xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx]To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxDate: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:18:02 -0500Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Just play around with the URLs around > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. Frank! Can I now call you "The Handyman"? Thanks! Rod --- Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Saku --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 21:18:25 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39974-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77070 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:18:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 77060 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:18:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:18:02 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:58 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Just play around with the URLs around > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. Frank! Can I now call you "The Handyman"? Thanks! Rod --- Now playing: Susumu Yokota - Saku --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 21:14:26 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39973-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73699 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:13:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 73643 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:13:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:13:27 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tFGr1Q9qpjUS3Gj0O3Z3HcyjgqhOrFr5beBC7cXoTIzGrCik42855uFpLdVrxAbDN5gUb4ZntbsjGUV37UdM4v9ygObZyxYNuNtIwBg8BIk6Oxnhb6XV5y8zitg67XHHWYqlw4WfGYu2/9FucqQcos74QKWKBS/tkCNFranerxo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Here is some info on UPIC that I lifted from Eric Kuehnl's site (http://music.calarts.edu/~eric/gs.html). It looks like I was wrong about the IRCAM origin. ~Kyle The Current UPIC Workstation UPIC (Unite Polyagogique Informatique du CEMAMu) is a machine dedicated to the interactive composition of musical scores (Xenakis 329). It was conceptualized by Xenakis and created at the CEMAMu (Centre for Studies in the Mathematics and Automation of Music) in Paris. The UPIC software consists of pages on which a composer draws "arcs" which specify the pitch and duration of a sonic event (figure 5), and a voice editing matrix with which the "arcs" are described. Waveform, envelope, frequency and amplitude tables, modulating arc assignment, and modification of audio channel parameters (dynamic and envelope) may all be manipulated for each "arc" in real-time. The hardware of the UPIC system consists of a Windows-based computer with a digitizing tablet, and the UPIC Real-Time Synthesis Unit: 64 Oscillators at 44.1 kHz with FM converter board: 4 audio output channels 2 audio input channels AES/EBU interface capacity: 4 pages of 4000 arcs 64 waveforms 4 frequency tables 128 envelopes 4 amplitude tables The UPIC Workstation is ideal for granular synthesis for several reasons. First, it allows any waveform (including sampled waveforms) to be assigned to each "arc". Second, it currently permits 64 "arcs" to be layered vertically. This enables the composer to design "clouds" of sound up to 64 grains in density and of infinite duration at any point in a composition. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the UPIC requires no time to process any of its functions. On 8/24/06, Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Thanks for the tip, Frank! > > For those who aren't aware, UPIC was developed by Iannis Xenakis as > IRCAM, and is a computer program that generates sound based on drawing > sketches on a frequency vs. time graph. I know that Metasynth has > similar features, but costs a pretty penny. It will be neat to see if > this free software is any good! > > For some odd reason, I could not find an English Wikipedia entry about > UPIC. You can read about it and many other interesting creations in > The Computer Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads. > > ~Kyle > > On 8/24/06, Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Hallo, > > Rod Stasick hat gesagt: // Rod Stasick wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:25 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > > > > > > >Oh man, I haven't seen this, but if it's what I think it is (since I > > > >don't know French), I'd love to try out UPIC-style software. Xenakis > > > >was crafty. I'll try it out tonight! > > > > > > If you're able to download this, then let us all know. > > > > Ah, what happened to the fine art of website hacking by guesses ... > > > > Just play around with the URLs around > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. > > > > ;) > > > > Ciao > > -- > > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > -- > > http://theradioproject.com > http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com > > (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) > (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) > ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ > _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ > ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 21:09:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39972-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71241 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:09:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 71218 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:09:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:09:38 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rCtLf/8Tc4p9DbKfT98yZd/FSdMKYr9u5EztBQ7GMmkxTHquxBGhEpZJ0m3pvsYv+prYfsQQHZPNrovkfWLy6pmjKUR9f3b9OYkuumUmmmVzHMdzdW54JZv1no+brh7BcBxpB8VRUm6GUUzjXgAuMOkkV1CuGgvqR2dOsfDS/0E= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks for the tip, Frank! For those who aren't aware, UPIC was developed by Iannis Xenakis as IRCAM, and is a computer program that generates sound based on drawing sketches on a frequency vs. time graph. I know that Metasynth has similar features, but costs a pretty penny. It will be neat to see if this free software is any good! For some odd reason, I could not find an English Wikipedia entry about UPIC. You can read about it and many other interesting creations in The Computer Music Tutorial by Curtis Roads. ~Kyle On 8/24/06, Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hallo, > Rod Stasick hat gesagt: // Rod Stasick wrote: > > > > > On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:25 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > > > > >Oh man, I haven't seen this, but if it's what I think it is (since I > > >don't know French), I'd love to try out UPIC-style software. Xenakis > > >was crafty. I'll try it out tonight! > > > > If you're able to download this, then let us all know. > > Ah, what happened to the fine art of website hacking by guesses ... > > Just play around with the URLs around > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what > could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or > later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example > to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. > > ;) > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:59:31 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39971-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66547 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:58:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 66533 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:58:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:58:18 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mail-followup-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hallo, Rod Stasick hat gesagt: // Rod Stasick wrote: > > On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:25 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > > >Oh man, I haven't seen this, but if it's what I think it is (since I > >don't know French), I'd love to try out UPIC-style software. Xenakis > >was crafty. I'll try it out tonight! > > If you're able to download this, then let us all know. Ah, what happened to the fine art of website hacking by guesses ... Just play around with the URLs around http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html, try to figure out what could be the reason why the download links they provide to for example http://www.la-kitchen.fr/IanniXDev054.zip don't work, and sooner or later you may guess, that they meant to point their links for example to http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/IanniXDev054.zip instead. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:55:34 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39970-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64194 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:55:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 64175 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:55:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:55:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx gee thanks but talk for your self my existance is far from humdrum!! On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Brent Colflesh wrote: > I'm pretty sure it uses photons to change the paradigm of your humdrum > existence. > > > Neil Wiernik wrote: >> >> >> what does it do??? >> there is ZERO explination of what it does... >> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Graham Miller wrote: >> >>> anyone use this? experiences? >>> >>> http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html >>> >>> g. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> ============================ >> www.phoniq.net >> releases available on: >> www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> publication: >> www.vagueterrain.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:38:53 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39968-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51009 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:38:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 50977 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:38:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:38:20 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 24, at 3:25 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > Oh man, I haven't seen this, but if it's what I think it is (since I > don't know French), I'd love to try out UPIC-style software. Xenakis > was crafty. I'll try it out tonight! If you're able to download this, then let us all know. Rod --- Now playing: Basic Channel - Q1.1 (1a) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:51:36 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39969-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61202 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:50:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 61186 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:50:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:28:32 -0400 From: Brent Colflesh <xxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Received-SPF: none X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm pretty sure it uses photons to change the paradigm of your humdrum existence. Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > what does it do??? > there is ZERO explination of what it does... > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Graham Miller wrote: > >> anyone use this? experiences? >> >> http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html >> >> g. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > ============================ > www.phoniq.net > releases available on: > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > publication: > www.vagueterrain.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:25:22 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39966-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40044 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 40031 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx what does it do??? there is ZERO explination of what it does... On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Graham Miller wrote: > anyone use this? experiences? > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html > > g. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:26:05 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39967-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40318 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 40296 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:25:06 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] iannix software? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O1jCQEhyGDdfqmR8k9AWTllyC8IaZsJNAMM9F8Nay20wIdwC4Byy+u9Bn1B9ZisUxUU7Ji9y9DAzeNrYjj/4nvzHrbp7ZsygYGp+7gxcFRoTjkmPxirmfzFv8LeZ/FgSkvgydOC4ASHopwXt7Ous0xFuEz7TAADaP1LN99CwL6Y= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Oh man, I haven't seen this, but if it's what I think it is (since I don't know French), I'd love to try out UPIC-style software. Xenakis was crafty. I'll try it out tonight! ~Kyle On 8/24/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > anyone use this? experiences? > > http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html > > g. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 24 20:12:03 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39965-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28330 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:11:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 28300 invoked from network); Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:11:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:11:07 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] iannix software? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone use this? experiences? http://www.la-kitchen.fr/iannix/iannix.html g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Aug 23 05:29:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39964-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77059 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:29:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 77047 invoked from network); Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:29:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:29:06 -0300 From: Andrew Duke <xxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] anyone checked out this virtual instrument mag? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 SeaMonkey/1.0.2 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Graham Miller wrote: > http://www.virtualinstrumentsmag.com/ > > it looks pretty cool, but i've never seen it on the newsstands. any good? > > g. I've purchased the last 3 issues. Articles are well-written and very in-depth. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://cognitionaudioworks.com http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 21:36:44 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39963-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22904 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:36:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 22883 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:36:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:36:20 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F+z7GAswkO25vfNf2Jbebv29Mjf52MFvsB9zkLPqiQl7VM3VdmCt/TlgkPtmGTQm2YOTrluttaDnpD0IyNgEzyF762tItEVa+uD00GjXv/EMkBcqhpQ/x3BaUsx836FAHAmsoNbtQfyQdUHcJU++ykm5XuHdimPx3nA545ue/1g= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That's a great story. I made a promo a while back for my radio show at university, and one of the DJ's said that halfway through playing it, she scrambled around to fix it when it stuttered and skipped (as per my intentions). The glitch aesthetic is still quite on the fringe for most listeners. ~Kyle On 8/22/06, Exegene <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > I managed a while ago to get a CD to a radio DJ; she played it on the air. > Or tried to. For nearly a minute she skipped around the track. On the > disc's retrieval, she said she's sorry, but the disc is broken and she > couldn't find the music, what is this, some kind of joke? > > Don't underestimate how much music's perceived musicality can depend on > its similarity to already-accepeted-as music, or on the > marketing/packaging surrounding it. http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 21:07:13 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39962-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11868 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:07:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 11856 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:06:58 -0400 From: Milan Davidovic <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IA5WlXjdUvOEZ+BoNKQChyn22oLNAf70+eyFaRxoXyN4ujCHI0ewiVhHnb5ZVdK5K8Cm5uRjfQM6B6NfscZVa1G7bfKC+pwV01z/ciLeSiIiMYR6g8+EMq735VRJJUzgsLP5qrBudyI/WxPajQufB3WSP5bunKWDwzBqoUlWSQ8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 8/22/06, Exegene <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote: > I managed a while ago to get a CD to a radio DJ; she played it on the air. > Or tried to. For nearly a minute she skipped around the track. On the > disc's retrieval, she said she's sorry, but the disc is broken and she > couldn't find the music, what is this, some kind of joke? Wrong music, wrong DJ? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 21:03:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39961-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9322 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:03:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 9312 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:03:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:03:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Exegene <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at devo.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: *snip* > the reviewer seems to have had a preconceived idea > of what "should" happen by trying to hang it on the > microsound coat-rack of someone else and was unable to - *snip* Not managing to fit what's being listened to into a pattern built on past experience is a clear way for music to fall short of enjoyable, or even listenable. I managed a while ago to get a CD to a radio DJ; she played it on the air. Or tried to. For nearly a minute she skipped around the track. On the disc's retrieval, she said she's sorry, but the disc is broken and she couldn't find the music, what is this, some kind of joke? Don't underestimate how much music's perceived musicality can depend on its similarity to already-accepeted-as music, or on the marketing/packaging surrounding it. -- Dear Patron Saint, your lips are lopsided www.devo.com/exegene --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 20:40:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39960-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97754 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:40:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 97739 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:40:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:33:21 +0100 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003c01c6c62b$27748980$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ah - you like the rebellion factor > micropunk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milan Davidovic" <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? > On 8/21/06, David @ Audiobulb <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >> Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated exposure >> to >> microsound compositions... > > My parents hate it. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 16:38:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39959-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86636 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:38:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 86626 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:38:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:23:12 -0500 From: Jason Hollis <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] embarrassing technical query re samplers - emu e64 and midi: can anyone help To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000501c6c607$446f8db0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have an e6400, another EOS sampler, in fact the successor to yours I believe. IIRC, the audition key plays the sound naked at root key, while key presses play it however you play it, and through the mixer - including the effects. Check your effects settings to make sure they are OFF. This should fix. If not, check your Cords section to make sure you have no retriggers or similar items that would be causing a flange. ~ !J! http://www.endif.org http://www.crunchpod.com http://www.thirdwavecollective.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "guiver ben" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] embarrassing technical query re samplers - emu e64 and midi: can anyone help > Dear microsounders, > > hi sorry to ask but i have an emu e64. when i press > the 'audition' button on the front panel, in sample > edit mode, it plays the selected sample fine. > > however, when i audition the sample off the c4 key on > my master keyboard, it plays like its phasing or > something. > > apparently this is a very basic midi / sampler issue > and thus i feel a bit ashamed that i'm asking. but > anyway, does anyone know why the f$%^ this happens > please? only its doing my head in. > > best > > ben > > --- eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> >> > Perhaps the record is just that? Boring bullsh*t? >> >> that's not a very nice thing to say BUT i think it's >> well in place. i have >> not heard the recording that spawned this thread so >> i'm not giving any >> judgement on wether or not this statement is true or >> false (for me). however >> what i would like to point out is the fact that >> occassionally people who get >> bad reviews start saying "you are not elitist enough >> to understand my music" >> while in some cases that might be true in others >> it's just not true and what >> you've made is actually just pointless bullsh*t for >> anyone but yourself. >> there's nothing wrong with making music just for >> yourself just the attitude >> that people have to like whatever you make is a >> wrong one, i think. >> >> eretsua. >> >> >> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Tue Aug 22 16:05:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39958-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70640 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:05:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 70623 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:05:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:05:38 -0500 From: David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] embarrassing technical query re samplers - emu e64 and midi: can anyone help In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oOt9IsU8bBuLgBehG6texjiPnNADRlAJNunkIRT/36EvEIGZ8tDYd6NgIjz8LLnV1FJBm9gdM+v7pOE6MCzoDBoxy349J/sG+pAAMHjyI5h+qa5WwWxSjLCLXxbscV3OUqw6a/NtklSelktW8qeTzc074RJnYRGpJ464GPgNxRk= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000001c6c5cf$1f5df030$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello, This sounds like "MIDI feedback" - for some reason the way stuff is setup, the note from your master keyboard sounds like it's getting sent twice. Couldn't tell why, or if this is the actual problem, without seeing your setup. ~David On 8/22/06, guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Dear microsounders, > > hi sorry to ask but i have an emu e64. when i press > the 'audition' button on the front panel, in sample > edit mode, it plays the selected sample fine. > > however, when i audition the sample off the c4 key on > my master keyboard, it plays like its phasing or > something. > > apparently this is a very basic midi / sampler issue > and thus i feel a bit ashamed that i'm asking. but > anyway, does anyone know why the f$%^ this happens > please? only its doing my head in. > > best > > ben > > --- eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> > > > Perhaps the record is just that? Boring bullsh*t? > > > > that's not a very nice thing to say BUT i think it's > > well in place. i have > > not heard the recording that spawned this thread so > > i'm not giving any > > judgement on wether or not this statement is true or > > false (for me). however > > what i would like to point out is the fact that > > occassionally people who get > > bad reviews start saying "you are not elitist enough > > to understand my music" > > while in some cases that might be true in others > > it's just not true and what > > you've made is actually just pointless bullsh*t for > > anyone but yourself. > > there's nothing wrong with making music just for > > yourself just the attitude > > that people have to like whatever you make is a > > wrong one, i think. > > > > eretsua. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Tue Aug 22 15:39:20 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39957-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57995 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:38:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 57972 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:38:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:31:59 -0700 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <001c01c6c5c6$e7024540$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0623090cc110d24a2a3c@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <001c01c6c5c6$e7024540$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >i think that personal preferences are atleast partially dictated by >physical properties of the individual in question. i don't know if >it's true but i believe everyone has a different frequency range >that they are able to hear better than another person. so PersonA's >hearing is more sensitve, better able to hear high sounds and >PersonB's hearing is more sensitive to low sounds. i think these >differences make up (atleast partially) our tastes because we are >not hearing the same thing and there for may may miss out on the >point of the music. i think that one needs to be able to recognize a >pattern (of some sort) in order to enjoy / appreciate anything. so >if the point of the music/sound is in an area of the frequency >spectrum where the listener's ears & brain can't make anything of >it's going to be lost on them. it's also the social filtering that people apply to their physical input systems -- "you only hear what you want to hear" -- where it is seems reasonable to say that measured at the eardrum, with small variations for different people, everyone is receiving the same sonic energy, and this would likely hold for the energy passing through the nerves from the ear to the brain... But the brain has been taught to 'accept or reject' certain information impulses as being important or un-important to the individuals survival in the social system in which they reside -- this occurs as one matures in a system -- from childhood. Children tend not to discriminate one kind of input vs another (except as a visceral protection level). As one assimilates into the social system, active filtration begins to operate as dictated by that system. You could even think of this list being a collective of people who find themselves with roughly similar filtration systems that don't quite fit the 'norm' of the social system that they are embedded in... My filter criteria -- I like a particular sonic energy if it's good ;-)) -- if it energizes my system... Cheers John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 15:30:21 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39956-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54049 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:29:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 54012 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:29:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] embarrassing technical query re samplers - emu e64 and midi: can anyone help In-reply-to: <000001c6c5cf$1f5df030$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K5X4gjobH1vcgAMqha7Kd7QugneTuhnR9nmUblCJj3Vax3I+WxpHAITjrbFnEhdunc4ezWcl/gUoycmywlvJ6vPdLmaqEv+PA0hTTKUpY7SMwHFfw45OhW7aUE1RPgdOTFGLn49ZO4NO/I8rYthTxc53Ky40j2metV4FyMCqgBs= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear microsounders, hi sorry to ask but i have an emu e64. when i press the 'audition' button on the front panel, in sample edit mode, it plays the selected sample fine. however, when i audition the sample off the c4 key on my master keyboard, it plays like its phasing or something. apparently this is a very basic midi / sampler issue and thus i feel a bit ashamed that i'm asking. but anyway, does anyone know why the f$%^ this happens please? only its doing my head in. best ben --- eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> > > Perhaps the record is just that? Boring bullsh*t? > > that's not a very nice thing to say BUT i think it's > well in place. i have > not heard the recording that spawned this thread so > i'm not giving any > judgement on wether or not this statement is true or > false (for me). however > what i would like to point out is the fact that > occassionally people who get > bad reviews start saying "you are not elitist enough > to understand my music" > while in some cases that might be true in others > it's just not true and what > you've made is actually just pointless bullsh*t for > anyone but yourself. > there's nothing wrong with making music just for > yourself just the attitude > that people have to like whatever you make is a > wrong one, i think. > > eretsua. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 15:03:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39955-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43166 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:02:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 43147 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:02:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:02:14 -0400 From: Milan Davidovic <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FOnXi7UyTz+nGa3S6IIx75TD5c5Tu2TcqQBoZvCY5IYsaE3AFEoPJ9/PwDEOQ5i1x/Ti4rKIS3MF89ejbYN5jqmS/Zx//drIn/5U2lXlzUm+BTU9wpWn9pxvegAgEP4IuDLGyyf93T7wuKWO4l+sQRe+JeZnEhFFigoo+VAhSe0= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 8/21/06, David @ Audiobulb <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated exposure to > microsound compositions... My parents hate it. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 15:02:28 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39954-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42363 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:01:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 42352 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:01:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:01:42 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Multi-Touch Interaction Screen To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-DCC--Metrics: ss73.shared.server-system.net 1368; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx NYU's Jeff Han shows some the they've done at Courant. Cool stuff: http://youtube.com/watch?v=PLhMVNdplJc A little more about Jeff: http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 14:52:17 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39953-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38583 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:51:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 38571 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:51:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:49:17 -0700 From: Trevor Mcpherson <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? 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X-Spam-Tests-Failed: MYFILTER [-20] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <001c01c6c5c6$e7024540$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I can get behind this. A former room mate pointed out that everyone else in the world hums the melody of a song, and I hum the bass line. My ears just gravitate that way, and have ever since I can remember. Low frequencies and rhythm are what draw me into a piece of music - microsound or otherwise. I think exposure and conditioning play a part as well. Near the end of my days in music school, I grew tired of wading through I-Vi -ii - V- I charts. I realized that there are a lot of people who enjoy it more than I, and decided for the most part to leave it to them. My search for some form of post-diatonic musical activity led to appreciation of and participation in microsound and Contemporary/New Music/Avant Garde, or whatever the current hip moniker is. eretsua wrote: > From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> >> Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated >> exposure to < >> microsound compositions whilst others are repelled by it?< > > i think that personal preferences are atleast partially dictated by > physical properties of the individual in question. i don't know if > it's true but i believe everyone has a different frequency range that > they are able to hear better than another person. so PersonA's hearing > is more sensitve, better able to hear high sounds and PersonB's > hearing is more sensitive to low sounds. i think these differences > make up (atleast partially) our tastes because we are not hearing the > same thing and there for may may miss out on the point of the music. i > think that one needs to be able to recognize a pattern (of some sort) > in order to enjoy / appreciate anything. so if the point of the > music/sound is in an area of the frequency spectrum where the > listener's ears & brain can't make anything of it's going to be lost > on them. > > there are many different reasons. one microsounder might listen to the > recording and enjoy the technical quallity of the recording. another > microsounder may be facinated by the sonic magnification of the word > around him/her. like when you take a camera into the garden and zoom > in on all the little things and film a whole different world then when > you just look at the garden from your window, only in microsound it's > done with sound rather than film. > > eretsua > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 09:41:34 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39952-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49049 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:41:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 49038 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:41:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:52:01 +0200 From: eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c6c5cf$1f5df030$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> > Perhaps the record is just that? Boring bullsh*t? that's not a very nice thing to say BUT i think it's well in place. i have not heard the recording that spawned this thread so i'm not giving any judgement on wether or not this statement is true or false (for me). however what i would like to point out is the fact that occassionally people who get bad reviews start saying "you are not elitist enough to understand my music" while in some cases that might be true in others it's just not true and what you've made is actually just pointless bullsh*t for anyone but yourself. there's nothing wrong with making music just for yourself just the attitude that people have to like whatever you make is a wrong one, i think. eretsua. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 08:42:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39951-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34850 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:42:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 34837 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:42:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:42:29 +0200 From: eretsua <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001c01c6c5c6$e7024540$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> >Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated exposure to >< >microsound compositions whilst others are repelled by it?< i think that personal preferences are atleast partially dictated by physical properties of the individual in question. i don't know if it's true but i believe everyone has a different frequency range that they are able to hear better than another person. so PersonA's hearing is more sensitve, better able to hear high sounds and PersonB's hearing is more sensitive to low sounds. i think these differences make up (atleast partially) our tastes because we are not hearing the same thing and there for may may miss out on the point of the music. i think that one needs to be able to recognize a pattern (of some sort) in order to enjoy / appreciate anything. so if the point of the music/sound is in an area of the frequency spectrum where the listener's ears & brain can't make anything of it's going to be lost on them. there are many different reasons. one microsounder might listen to the recording and enjoy the technical quallity of the recording. another microsounder may be facinated by the sonic magnification of the word around him/her. like when you take a camera into the garden and zoom in on all the little things and film a whole different world then when you just look at the garden from your window, only in microsound it's done with sound rather than film. eretsua --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 04:19:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39950-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58933 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:18:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 58920 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:18:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:18:44 +0200 From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> X-Originating-IP: 81.224.200.117 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Perhaps the record is just that? Boring bullsh*t? There is nothing wrong with a person rather listening to Spike Jones collected works before even a single track by Claudia. Music is personal - the consumer is the judge. 22 aug 2006 kl. 01.07 skrev David @ Audiobulb: > The question of whether or when sound becomes music or more broadly > "something a person would wish to submit their ears to".... is > raised on occasion in the context of microsound compositions.... > > Claudia's recent release on Audiobulb Records has prompted a number > of reviewers to question raise questions in their reviews such as > "Is this music?" or "is there any point to this?". > > A quote from http://angryape.com/reviews/2006/08/claudia-weve-met- > before-when-we-were .... "The trilogy of tracks that makes up Me > And My Tornado is the most uncomfortable listen, the broken sound > clips are harsh and unpleasant on the ears. Don't get me wrong, I > don't need pretty sounds to make something sound good, but this is > too sparse, too little, bordering on the pointless, the realm of is > this or is it not music? Rarely is there more than one sound > overlapping with another, the samples are jarring clangs and snaps > intertwined with emptiness throughout all three tracks. > > +++++++ So to cut to the question that is on my mind +++++++ > > Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated > exposure to microsound compositions whilst others are repelled by it? > > 1. Is this a learnt behaviour and if so why? > > 2. Does this reflect developmental experiences? > > What cognitive, personality or experiential elements lie behind > your understanding of microsound appreciation? > > Best wishes > > David @ www.audiobulb.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 01:50:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39949-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15029 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:50:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 15019 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:50:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:50:35 -0400 From: "\\js" <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oey/l7z8tOVjCXieU9ad2eP9fPFoULMPDx5WHUyAy5ezq3g0L4nCq/Aem2ByGwEJqeWzOE/kBzo+SwQs6IC+LUaToSZxoPYAtP/+BbhZMmMwcEWdj8eh+m/Fzr59xT7cf+CB8lW+DvjuvzvjI595xcTRFsCPd7+BQIiphfNFYeU= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 8/21/06, David @ Audiobulb <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated exposure to > microsound compositions whilst others are repelled by it? variety is essential to life. > 1. Is this a learnt behaviour and if so why? sometimes learned. each person probably has a different reason why they have learned to like microsound music. maybe these reasons can be generalized into a few trends, but this may be leaving out all the important parts. also, some people may just like the music, viscerally. > 2. Does this reflect developmental experiences? it may. i think there's a wide variety of experiences that may lead someone to seek out microsound-like music. > What cognitive, personality or experiential elements lie behind your > understanding of microsound appreciation? i don't know if this can be generalized. can people like music without a supporting intellectual process? can people dislike music without any rationale for it? are these preferences less valid without 'argument' behind them? -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 01:06:19 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39948-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2391 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:06:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 2377 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:06:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:06:02 -0500 From: benjamin c acree <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mtw2AStW0l8PF1ss1R6ixKLDuZQZQMp127QrCfm7DWjJt+mh9jCb3wuDCptZ+3M5o/e4X5UfQj5tCwpD13q9Eb4AuLszlbAoV4MgGJ6AlBF/Tnk2huaFzEf+2fVUILXmp66JEpiNqkh1BH0aIf1alGc4dZ6JUEnUJaga2iLGLro= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think that microsound compositions mostly deal with very medium-specific problems and concepts, and the people that are repelled are those that don't care about the concept. Reviewers asking the question "is this music?" just seem misguided. It might be more fruitful to ask the question "How does the piece deal with sound?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 22 00:12:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39947-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83709 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:12:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 83699 invoked from network); Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:12:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:11:38 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? In-reply-to: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm just going by the samples on your website, so... This appears to be a debut recording so, instead of approaching the recording with fresh ears, the reviewer seems to have had a preconceived idea of what "should" happen by trying to hang it on the microsound coat-rack of someone else and was unable to - thus producing an uncomfortable feeling about linear-based microsound. I like what little I've heard, and not knowing the composer, I'm only guessing that these "incomplete" strands of sound are intended as arrhythmic lines - especially if you consider the title of the disc. my two cents... Rod --- Now playing: Sabrina Malheiros - Love Sorte --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 21 23:07:36 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39946-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60975 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:07:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 60964 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:07:19 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:07:18 +0100 From: "David @ Audiobulb" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] a personal appreciation of microsound? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000801c6c576$8dbd6410$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The question of whether or when sound becomes music or more broadly "something a person would wish to submit their ears to".... is raised on occasion in the context of microsound compositions.... Claudia's recent release on Audiobulb Records has prompted a number of reviewers to question raise questions in their reviews such as "Is this music?" or "is there any point to this?". A quote from http://angryape.com/reviews/2006/08/claudia-weve-met-before-when-we-were ..... "The trilogy of tracks that makes up Me And My Tornado is the most uncomfortable listen, the broken sound clips are harsh and unpleasant on the ears. Don't get me wrong, I don't need pretty sounds to make something sound good, but this is too sparse, too little, bordering on the pointless, the realm of is this or is it not music? Rarely is there more than one sound overlapping with another, the samples are jarring clangs and snaps intertwined with emptiness throughout all three tracks. +++++++ So to cut to the question that is on my mind +++++++ Why do some of us enjoy/appreciate or find interest in repeated exposure to microsound compositions whilst others are repelled by it? 1. Is this a learnt behaviour and if so why? 2. Does this reflect developmental experiences? What cognitive, personality or experiential elements lie behind your understanding of microsound appreciation? Best wishes David @ www.audiobulb.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 21 15:02:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39945-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49295 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:02:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 49266 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:02:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: guiver ben <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ::: Burial In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3A3GiG0ijCGkCAuz8xebrw9vAPT99yBKIb72+W++ZMrAbvw54UOgwZwTVPwvM99CHRJzKTdrBaMwZ51BGAPAkJoTZCtiMVJJ5y+1Ji3B7uumvJAdnMbybasPx+4uEJDwjHr7Z1ScXb80vN/fuH3iZo9qmOseiHQleb7zp8clgBc= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i like the burial cd a lot. i think its more than a few samples, etc etc, the arrangements are pretty cool too and it strikes a note for me in particualrly since i spent some good sat nights at the end of the 90's mixing to detuned pirate radio etc etc so it reminds me of those times in some ways. the rhythms are cool to, it just feels like part of the development thats coming through in the uk underground scene, if i may be so bold. heard any Skream lately? he's good too. but in a different way. --- Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Fiar enough. I think the sketchy production is one > of the things that draws me to it and I'm not one to > necessarily embrace low-end for the sake of it. I > also don't care who samples what. :) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: steinbrüchel [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx] > > Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2006 12:40 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser > (Burial) > > in my humble opinion the burial record is by far > overrated. > sampling massive attack just is to easy... > > for anyone freaking out because they think burial is > ****ing good, > they should check out what scorn did 10 years ago. > absolutely > stunning (and far heavier, deeper and better > produced). and the > good thing about it is also that theirs no massive > attack sampling > in near sight... > > cheers, ralph. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's > Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Mon Aug 21 13:41:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39944-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17866 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:40:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 17855 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:40:50 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:40:35 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_43YsMEPu0VOe6fXYq3jSNQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bSlDj+8Moemtyif9DTxzCVQqpzAEsDUGHimZyWLCX/7QYQK8DiA6fh+Indu4pxPooaLG6v2h3oVP8B07CQU9VK3RtrhoyIE+GORGMcXGCLvJRu8bkjf6x+9d57K92BLxxxNjXpPb9H4pfvSNeSUHQESh1IlpI0f6WYWPrbMwq7w= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_43YsMEPu0VOe6fXYq3jSNQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think burial just made an interesting listenable record, which is exceptional esp for techno, garage, and esp dubstep. for those not familiar with rhythm & sound, basic channel, scorn, etc, itll sound really unique. Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) Message-ID: <C10B9DD6.2E21%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> in my humble opinion the burial record is by far overrated. sampling massive attack just is to easy... for anyone freaking out because they think burial is ****ing good, they should check out what scorn did 10 years ago. absolutely stunning (and far heavier, deeper and better produced). and the good thing about it is also that theirs no massive attack sampling in near sight... cheers, ralph. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. --Boundary_(ID_43YsMEPu0VOe6fXYq3jSNQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Aug 21 06:07:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39943-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75689 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:07:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 75679 invoked from network); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:07:39 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:07:34 +0200 From: Gregory Taylor <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] microsound Digest 20 Aug 2006 15:35:10 -0000 Issue 1665 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-POP-User: gtaylor.rtqe.net X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters > > Thanks Nick. Much of the stuff that I'm looking at > is earlier work on DAT that is polyphonic and has > some microtone considerations. Wanting to get a > reasonable representation into score form. While the act of transcription requires attention, action, and some skill, there's no substitute - particularly as you approach any source that's microtonal and polyphonic [either one is problematic on its own. Together? whoa.], and the difficulties increase with orders of magnitude as you add multiple instruments or instruments with spectral profiles that are anything short of non-unusual. For some basic background as to *why* this might be problematic, there's always the oldschool "analog" reading thing. http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet? prog=normal&id=JASMAN000118000003001948000007&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes Given the issues outlined in the paper here, it'd not be too surprising that some of the more robust stuff would involve single instrument work. You might want to have a look at the AES stuff online. I seem to recall some papers from a session on analysis and modelling a few years back - some interesting and reasonable piano results. This probably isn't the answer you wanted, but you're asking for something that's um... a bit ambitious. Monophonic sources [particularly without wonky attack transient segments] in 12tET? Probably pretty doable in hardware and software [especially if you're willing to do the type of OCR people had to do many years ago - sweep once, spell check forever] with stuff that will either be inexpensive or easily available. That old recording of Gendhing Sri Kraton you made on holiday in Surakarta? You'll pay big money for that one. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 20 23:19:06 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39942-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68488 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:18:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 68478 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:18:52 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:22:02 +1000 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) X-Originating-IP: [57.70.19.194] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-16.messagelabs.com!1156115927!32470248!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=pacterm.com,-,- X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Fiar enough. I think the sketchy production is one of the things that draws me to it and I'm not one to necessarily embrace low-end for the sake of it. I also don't care who samples what. :) -----Original Message----- From: steinbrüchel [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx] Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2006 12:40 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) in my humble opinion the burial record is by far overrated. sampling massive attack just is to easy... for anyone freaking out because they think burial is ****ing good, they should check out what scorn did 10 years ago. absolutely stunning (and far heavier, deeper and better produced). and the good thing about it is also that theirs no massive attack sampling in near sight... cheers, ralph. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Sun Aug 20 23:15:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39941-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66778 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:15:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 66766 invoked from network); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:15:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:18:45 +1000 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) X-Originating-IP: [57.70.19.194] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-62.messagelabs.com!1156115729!2542111!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=pacterm.com,-,- X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, in terms of looping he has said he just cut and paste... but who knows? -----Original Message----- From: peter lasell [mailto:x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2006 12:35 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) Ive heard that bit about Burial using nothing but Soundforge, which I find suspect. Soundforge can't loop or multitrack, and the lp certainly sounds like that. Soundforge + Acid I can believe. Peter _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 19 18:50:42 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39940-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13089 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:50:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 13079 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:50:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:50:21 +0200 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003301c6c3c0$5307b8f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx As you all should now it is totally free and up to everyone to register at the .microsound wiki and post info about podcasts, netlabels and what more. Wiki start page: http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Main_Page Wiki podcast page http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Microsound_Podcasts It is very easy to get things going there. Excellent resources for instance for different sound tools for different platforms, nteresting texts on different topics and more. Come on and add things there! Now there are not more than 4 to 5 persons adding/editing things. Could be a lot more. Paolo has made a great work in transferring from the old crashed TWiki to the new Wiki. Keep on working on that effort and make this thing even better. (btw: I think it should be great to have a link now from the frontpage to this Wiki aswell as the .microsound server. They are a bit long to remember... John?) Yours, Björn Eriksson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andras Hargitai" <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts Hi PBJ, If you excuse for the self promotion I have a weekly radio show called VBR at Radio Periszkop (small FM radio in Pecs, Hungary). The raw material is various netaudio music. I archive every show with playlists and maintain a podcast as well. Check for yourself if you are interested: http://www.bitlabrecords.com/vbr cheers, Andras 2006/8/16, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx>: > Thanks Paulo - that's incredibly helpful! > > PBJ > > >From: "Paulo Mouat" <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts > >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:41 -0400 > > > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Microsound_Podcasts > > > >//p > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > > > >On 8/15/06, Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >>You could listen to The Radio Project (http://theradioproject.com). > >>It has some experimental electronic audio stuff, but hasn't been > >>updated for a while, so check the archives. > >> > >>~Kyle > >> > >>On 8/15/06, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > >> > Dear All > >> > > >> > Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with > >> > microsound-type material broadcasted? > >> > > >> > Ta > >> > > >> > PBJ > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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Sat Aug 19 18:32:18 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39939-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6913 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:32:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 6903 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:32:08 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:32:02 +0200 From: Andras Hargitai <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uXTq13JlocOXxMNixNd9z4Vtn+gI9FUq4rmaHARnonKgazNZ7XRY11j0XcY6Y76JaJjQq5bOv6NiF9stwkbEifsAwfR8MKjUDnDLv6z0AIw0zPhphKoypHtBNzJkKusXHLhubBLObMNr8bbjRHjmmz72I+Id/zK85cidhhsWErg= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx + ...and microsound is present in the shows of course, the shows usually start with microsound/ambient works, then the second half is about beat oriented tracks. best, A. 2006/8/19, Andras Hargitai <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > Hi PBJ, > > If you excuse for the self promotion I have a weekly radio show called > VBR at Radio Periszkop (small FM radio in Pecs, Hungary). The raw > material is various netaudio music. I archive every show with > playlists and maintain a podcast as well. Check for yourself if you > are interested: > http://www.bitlabrecords.com/vbr > > cheers, > Andras > > > 2006/8/16, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx>: > > Thanks Paulo - that's incredibly helpful! > > > > PBJ > > > > >From: "Paulo Mouat" <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > > >Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts > > >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:41 -0400 > > > > > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Microsound_Podcasts > > > > > >//p > > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > > > > > >On 8/15/06, Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > >>You could listen to The Radio Project (http://theradioproject.com). > > >>It has some experimental electronic audio stuff, but hasn't been > > >>updated for a while, so check the archives. > > >> > > >>~Kyle > > >> > > >>On 8/15/06, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > > >> > Dear All > > >> > > > >> > Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with > > >> > microsound-type material broadcasted? > > >> > > > >> > Ta > > >> > > > >> > PBJ > > >> > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > > >> > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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Sat Aug 19 18:30:00 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39938-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5416 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:29:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 5402 invoked from network); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:29:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:29:32 +0200 From: Andras Hargitai <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iAxXaeKUMLK+26ca07T09zTIhUmOhLrhhoeKHCZVu3croTTAMtTz1pkxpLrO0AB84263uKe+MNmPVbCOgeh9Cem2v9PSqucL9u3c6n1Umg5xcb6Ezj/DzIyACiCZAH3QxNdZLmHyG2bXvOR8a1heIMh01o6wULx0Zy7DfqF4RHc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi PBJ, If you excuse for the self promotion I have a weekly radio show called VBR at Radio Periszkop (small FM radio in Pecs, Hungary). The raw material is various netaudio music. I archive every show with playlists and maintain a podcast as well. Check for yourself if you are interested: http://www.bitlabrecords.com/vbr cheers, Andras 2006/8/16, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx>: > Thanks Paulo - that's incredibly helpful! > > PBJ > > >From: "Paulo Mouat" <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > >Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts > >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:41 -0400 > > > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Microsound_Podcasts > > > >//p > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > > > >On 8/15/06, Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >>You could listen to The Radio Project (http://theradioproject.com). > >>It has some experimental electronic audio stuff, but hasn't been > >>updated for a while, so check the archives. > >> > >>~Kyle > >> > >>On 8/15/06, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > >> > Dear All > >> > > >> > Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with > >> > microsound-type material broadcasted? > >> > > >> > Ta > >> > > >> > PBJ > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for > >>free! > >> > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> > website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >>-- > >> > >>http://theradioproject.com > >>http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com > >> > >>(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) > >>(())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) > >>))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ > >>_____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ > >>((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >>website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 15:29:47 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39937-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41893 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:29:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 41877 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:29:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:29:27 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 18, at 9:50 AM, ニコラス・ケント wrote: > > In general you can say that the results get worse as the material > gets more complex. Additionally the ability to deal with polyphonic > input is, as far as I know still experimental. For instance if you > have some simple flute music or one person singing "aaahhh" solo > you would likely get something fairly clean and usable. The problem > is most of what's interesting is far more complex and potentially > is chock full of not quite right sounding material. From what I > understand the problem lies in not only accuracy but what to > ignore. The beginnings of sounds often contain unpitched material > that can mistrack. On the other hand waiting until it's over leaves > you with a lag and likelyhood that the rhythmic timing will wind up > sloppy. Thanks Nick. Much of the stuff that I'm looking at is earlier work on DAT that is polyphonic and has some microtone considerations. Wanting to get a reasonable representation into score form. Rod --- Now playing: Segun Adewale - Atewo-Lara Ka Tepa Mo'se --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 14:51:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39936-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30881 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:51:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 30871 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:51:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:50:45 -0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?44OL44Kz44Op44K544O744Kx44Oz44OI?= <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > i think there was a discussion about this a while > back. you should check the archive. > you're talking about software, right? > > --- Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > >> So, I'm guessing that nobody here has had any >> experience with >> audio-to-midi converters? There's two categories in general. Realtime and file processing - you know, audio file in midi file out. I've yet to run it through it's paces, but the commercial software I hear the most about is Melodyne. http://www.celemony.com/cms/?id=349 though it's not cheap and MIDI output is more a fringe benefit rather than the focus of this pitch correction and harmony building software. Not realtime. Something very legacy oriented but free is Opcode Studio Vision, an OS9 MIDI sequencer app that guitar-maker Gibson bought and gave up on, also not realtime. In general you can say that the results get worse as the material gets more complex. Additionally the ability to deal with polyphonic input is, as far as I know still experimental. For instance if you have some simple flute music or one person singing "aaahhh" solo you would likely get something fairly clean and usable. The problem is most of what's interesting is far more complex and potentially is chock full of not quite right sounding material. From what I understand the problem lies in not only accuracy but what to ignore. The beginnings of sounds often contain unpitched material that can mistrack. On the other hand waiting until it's over leaves you with a lag and likelyhood that the rhythmic timing will wind up sloppy. nick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 14:44:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39935-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26142 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:44:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 26130 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:44:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:39:50 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C10B9DD6.2E21%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) Thread-index: AcbC1CjMZ1/Kvi7HEduPtwARJHLkrA== X-Authenticated-Sender-Id: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx in my humble opinion the burial record is by far overrated. sampling massive attack just is to easy... for anyone freaking out because they think burial is ****ing good, they should check out what scorn did 10 years ago. absolutely stunning (and far heavier, deeper and better produced). and the good thing about it is also that theirs no massive attack sampling in near sight... cheers, ralph. Am 18.8.2006 16:35 Uhr schrieb "peter lasell" unter <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > Ive heard that bit about Burial using nothing but Soundforge, which I find > suspect. Soundforge can't loop or multitrack, and the lp certainly sounds like > that. Soundforge + Acid I can believe. > > Peter > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com -- http://www.synchron.ch .:.::.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 14:35:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39934-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23059 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:35:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 23049 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:35:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_H3Mz2w53KDwyib54Db3Y4A)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kXMYMycSjeiHTLO1rHbxPjKQl284RUz3n/VWVn3kZL6kwRXbIrTJu093EYFvkzKlN93rloylyqkR4TyZk3doaJxzVl7VNKpPRSQuDZrqhJSumoALR+l3qmbpyX4FEd1LZacC7/YDF3+V0pFbGauGxlGWlfmI3yhjWJZZfVSC/io= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_H3Mz2w53KDwyib54Db3Y4A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ive heard that bit about Burial using nothing but Soundforge, which I find suspect. Soundforge can't loop or multitrack, and the lp certainly sounds like that. Soundforge + Acid I can believe. Peter --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --Boundary_(ID_H3Mz2w53KDwyib54Db3Y4A)-- From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 13:28:21 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39933-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1697 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:28:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 1652 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:28:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:27:55 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 17, at 12:02 PM, Brian Klein wrote: > i think there was a discussion about this a while > back. you should check the archive. > you're talking about software, right? Yup! I'll do a check thru Google. It may be easier than our own archive which after about 10-15 minutes didn't help. Rod --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 06:45:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39932-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 02:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6859 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:45:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 6842 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:45:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:44:46 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ...the seattle improv scene In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.105.57 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ur3Q8JN0wbEriEixwtDuIny2q3WAAbB3WEpY08PQoBLa4ddh/s+EvT2/fPfHwjEI; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c26099d2e0d7b47a077597d31415a6ff6adc1a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I was reading a notice for upcoming events and in trying to find more text regarding one of the performers ran across a review by Christopher Delaurenti of the group Na. "Na, the trio of Noriaki Watanabe, Shinsuke Yamada, and Kazz Nomura, who sometimes wear robes or homemade hats. You may have picked up one of their free CD-Rs at Wall of Sound or Everyday Music. "We have made 1460 Copies since June.15. 2004, received 2 E-mails, and earned $0." declares the tattered insert of the na#7 Live!!!! CD-R." (From October 2004.) I was intrigued since I have a c.d. titled 'Shinsuke #2' given to me by a friend of mine who, although he was one of the persons making the sound , the last time I spoke with him didn't consider himself a musician. Not being a musician in seattle carries certain privileges and for that reason I won't drag his good name in the dirt just to appear that I have something to say. The c.d. is very good , leaves me clear-headed serene and inspired , though for no obvious reason. It's likely that Shinsuke Yamada had nothing to do with it, though it's possible that he contributed. It's also possible that the c.d. case was made by him and later used to house another recording. The last track is a very brief sound of a few milliseconds which loops spontaneously and changes , keeps changing indefinitely . I don't know if it behaves the same way on everybody's player. Questions about the technical aspect didn't bring me any new knowledge. Anyway, if you're in the Seattle or Portland area this weekend you might be interested in the No West Festival of Improvised Music. see: http://www.makejetsilent.com/nowest/ --bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 18 04:35:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39931-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74133 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:35:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 74123 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:35:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:24:12 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bleep is very cool. but i'm addicted to jewel cases:) soundforge is a PC thing is it not? i love the reverb on that burial disc, as i do with all the chain reaction/basic channel stuff. there's no enough reverb in music:) ever. g. On 17-Aug-06, at 9:42 PM, Noel Peters wrote: > Burial is good, very post-apocalyptic as you say. Interstingly he says > he composed the whole thing using only soundforge. Another good > piece of > information is that it can be downloaded in lossless FLAC format at > bleep.com. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 3:34 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser > > i checed out that burial disc in the record store - it sounds > AMAZING. spooky post-apocalyptic sci-fi... > > > On 16-Aug-06, at 9:56 AM, peter lasell wrote: > >> I gave the album a listen, it's not bad, it just sounds like >> Radiohead b-sides. I think Yorke's vocal range is really limited, >> making his work a little tedious to these ears. Yorke doesn't >> really stretch at all. I still think their instrumentals rip off >> afx (i secretly suspect he does production for them). >> >> here are some releases that ive been listening to nonstop, most >> might appeal to microsounders: >> marsen_jules_-_lazy_sunday_funerals >> burial-burial_(hyperdub)-2006 > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information > visit http://www.mci.com > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed > Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Fri Aug 18 01:39:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39930-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27316 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:39:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 27305 invoked from network); Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:39:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:42:28 +1000 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser (Burial) X-Originating-IP: [57.70.19.194] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-62.messagelabs.com!1155865153!486311!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=pacterm.com,-,- X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Burial is good, very post-apocalyptic as you say. Interstingly he says he composed the whole thing using only soundforge. Another good piece of information is that it can be downloaded in lossless FLAC format at bleep.com. -----Original Message----- From: Graham Miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 3:34 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser i checed out that burial disc in the record store - it sounds AMAZING. spooky post-apocalyptic sci-fi... On 16-Aug-06, at 9:56 AM, peter lasell wrote: > I gave the album a listen, it's not bad, it just sounds like > Radiohead b-sides. I think Yorke's vocal range is really limited, > making his work a little tedious to these ears. Yorke doesn't > really stretch at all. I still think their instrumentals rip off > afx (i secretly suspect he does production for them). > > here are some releases that ive been listening to nonstop, most > might appeal to microsounders: > marsen_jules_-_lazy_sunday_funerals > burial-burial_(hyperdub)-2006 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. 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Thu Aug 17 21:25:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39929-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42479 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:25:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 42464 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:25:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:25:34 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZB6nhxbKLVmZq/IH6rmPa+ZOcAgTWgm13mwcwwnTdh8WsFiAWRh5EY9gmKFwExAqeZ0lWVRm9R9uOlmcxiGbE0JpkK0koaLUF4ikQ0D0Ctfg38JnNdr11CqpvqTu+bpU6UADiGeUUrRsyvilLkmq4xoN3parM/EP3RTZ3fEqnVc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You could use Pd with the fiddle~ external. It tracks independent peaks using an fft. ~Kyle On 8/17/06, Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > i think there was a discussion about this a while > back. you should check the archive. > you're talking about software, right? > > --- Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > So, I'm guessing that nobody here has had any > > experience with > > audio-to-midi converters? > > > > > > Rod > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Thu Aug 17 17:08:56 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39928-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42628 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:08:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 42618 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:08:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:02:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gs9ZPrZ5zeuP86EYPUPDisrnFtiWD1ma6sW3pptwstBFUJb2Rv2IhUTpk1pbzRRUqTQykPBZ5OIMH1GVTm42ZDR3WVThcRUxuL5heVwQov/gZ/G9NNOzuPxsrC9twreNt9ofhVORvqXiexVRcT9/JWyiFfCwhVAQAqsRNbhK5ek= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i think there was a discussion about this a while back. you should check the archive. you're talking about software, right? --- Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > So, I'm guessing that nobody here has had any > experience with > audio-to-midi converters? > > > Rod > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Thu Aug 17 17:02:05 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39927-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39784 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:01:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 39774 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:01:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:01:39 -0400 From: Milan Davidovic <xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NNEPaW4EJhMdkDRP4eWQLN3JAuEJjSk94GS/WOLkcW0Y+wwTclXvLff+KmkB/2jMdRuzYNGRyVy2ehwLDjY9sN17QhLhg7c8zl1he0VewciWbX0yVhS+1zFdoFhshQCN9Yz9kqbacm5yfM1F/WHlhPHvP2GmuMjX7qSWT3nLARc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Not me -- but a sponsored link in gmail gave me this: www.intelliscore.net Can't actually look it myself right now (maybe due to nannyware, I'm not sure), so you'll have to go yourself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 17 16:11:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39926-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20446 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:11:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 20436 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:11:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:11:30 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx So, I'm guessing that nobody here has had any experience with audio-to-midi converters? 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Thu Aug 17 01:21:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39925-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89502 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:21:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 89491 invoked from network); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:21:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:21:06 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C10A01A2.4214%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser Thread-index: AcbBm2l0qAGSEi2OEdujgwAWy4ns3A== X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Definitely agree on the Burial disk. Also been enjoying: Pretty Boy Crossover & Julian Soto - We Are Drifting New releases on Cut - Seth Nehil, Jason Kahn & Gabriel Paiuk New releases on and/OAR - May 6,2001 v/a & MNortham Bip_Hop Generation Vol.8 Simon. Symbiosis - Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms Wednesday nights / 10pm - 12am 102.7 FM / www.rrr.org.au Melbourne / Australia xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx On 17/8/06 3:34 AM, "Graham Miller" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > i checed out that burial disc in the record store - it sounds > AMAZING. spooky post-apocalyptic sci-fi... > > > On 16-Aug-06, at 9:56 AM, peter lasell wrote: > >> I gave the album a listen, it's not bad, it just sounds like >> Radiohead b-sides. I think Yorke's vocal range is really limited, >> making his work a little tedious to these ears. Yorke doesn't >> really stretch at all. I still think their instrumentals rip off >> afx (i secretly suspect he does production for them). >> >> here are some releases that ive been listening to nonstop, most >> might appeal to microsounders: >> marsen_jules_-_lazy_sunday_funerals >> burial-burial_(hyperdub)-2006 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Aug 16 18:47:52 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39924-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38836 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:47:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 38826 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:47:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:40:47 -0400 (EDT) From: colin <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Non Western electronic and noise sampler To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yc7BQOLF8BOKEnIAKWu9gN5gOPB1mmL0AeAyMTGu5nPcevWn8tAT7+l1/mpEh5ljSVigxipno0FaOPqIhCuy8ntH0KxNCInj77hSG+L4GvRbEhGoMPVkMA/0zny52ckoaAgzVZ0y8g/nLxguY3f3Fm8w2XA3V3Q0HKGz90wQNKo= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: cdrk <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> > Hello, > > I work for a while on the forthcoming cd release to > be > published my label Syrphe. This will be > a noise, experimental, electronic compilation > featuring some artists > coming > from around 20 coutries from Africa, Middle-East and > Asia. > > The deadline is over but I'm still looking for any > artist from Iran, > Egypt, > Madagascar, Botswana, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia as > I have [nearly] no > contact > with the scene over there anymore or contacts are > really slow/ > difficult. > > Artists must be into the underground electronic, > experimental or noise > [harsh > noise, power electronics, electro-acoustic, > experimental, electronica, > breakcore, > etc. are ok, but no ebm, no techno, no drum'n'bass, > no goth, no punk, > no metal]. > > The cd compilation will be published as a cd [not a > cdr] in October > after my > gigs in China. > > Thanks for your time. > > __________________________________________________________ > _____ > > Forthcoming gigs/performances > > 26 August 2006 | Riga | Latvia > 21 October 2006 | Marcinelles | Belgium > 10 December 2006 | Lille | France > + more tba in Estonia, Latvia > > September + October 2006 | Beijing, Shanghai, > Guangzhou, Shenzhen | > China > November 2006 | Turkey, Lebanon, Israel, UAE, tbc > +/- 24 December 2006 until end of February 2007 : > China, > Hong Kong, Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, > etc. > > April 2007 | Europe : Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, > Finland, > Switzerland, France, Belgium, etc. __________________________________________________________ > _____ > > http://www.syrphe.com/ > http://www.moonsanto.org/ > http://www.3point5.be/syrphe/ [for china !] > http://www.livejournal.com/users/cdrk/ > http://www.myspace.com/cdrk > http://www.myspace.com/syrphe > http://mothersagainstnoise.org/ > http://mothersagainstnoise.com/ > > http://www.vegansociety.com/html/ > http://www.vegan.org/ > > http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/ > http://www.greenanarchy.org/ - http://freewebs.com/brokensleep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Wed Aug 16 18:06:55 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39923-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20852 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:06:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 20841 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:06:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:34:15 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i checed out that burial disc in the record store - it sounds AMAZING. spooky post-apocalyptic sci-fi... On 16-Aug-06, at 9:56 AM, peter lasell wrote: > I gave the album a listen, it's not bad, it just sounds like > Radiohead b-sides. I think Yorke's vocal range is really limited, > making his work a little tedious to these ears. Yorke doesn't > really stretch at all. I still think their instrumentals rip off > afx (i secretly suspect he does production for them). > > here are some releases that ive been listening to nonstop, most > might appeal to microsounders: > marsen_jules_-_lazy_sunday_funerals > burial-burial_(hyperdub)-2006 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Aug 16 13:57:00 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39922-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21809 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:56:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 21796 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:56:42 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:56:38 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: thom yorke's eraser In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1BvjR78T+jG/gt0hauQ0Ow)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eUaRQ2IFG8gwOS7kg9vduCQv8DvmJVP7Ec+WnesIQwaxHQ6+xr8ZVHmd/oGisPps4ozhh58G2enDCUzFotUgQZUBvMsgxOjdO3oJrvJuica57RzpVsYJSilzyMBkhS66pC744XoCTt2UBzF2Gfz1TgLTc+n/Xw5baLOH78pC5jM= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1BvjR78T+jG/gt0hauQ0Ow) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I gave the album a listen, it's not bad, it just sounds like Radiohead b-sides. I think Yorke's vocal range is really limited, making his work a little tedious to these ears. Yorke doesn't really stretch at all. I still think their instrumentals rip off afx (i secretly suspect he does production for them). here are some releases that ive been listening to nonstop, most might appeal to microsounders: marsen_jules_-_lazy_sunday_funerals burial-burial_(hyperdub)-2006 monolake - alaska melting machinefabriek - manchester john duncan, mika vainio & ilpo vaisanen - nine suggestions (2005) six_organs_of_admittance--the_sun_awakens-2006-i8 [op3n]012-ORPHAX-sunlights_are_fading-A & B(podcast www.op3n.com) rekid - made in menorca (soul jazz - 2006) ze'v (2005) untitled cd1 (2005) vs john duncan vs aidan baker vs fear falls burning claude young - minimal input mix (download www.claudeyoung.com) stewart walker - live & shanti 23_07_05 terry riley - you're no good (original & his rmx) 1976? morton feldman - three voices for joan la barbara gyorgy ligeti - mechanical music martin fierr - el topo & the holy mountain OST miles davis - porgy & bess Peter --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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Wed Aug 16 07:01:39 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39921-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24506 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:01:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 24496 invoked from network); Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:01:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:01:24 +0100 From: P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2006 07:01:25.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA299A50:01C6C101] Thanks Paulo - that's incredibly helpful! PBJ >From: "Paulo Mouat" <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> >Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:41 -0400 > >http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Microsound_Podcasts > >//p >http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ > >On 8/15/06, Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>You could listen to The Radio Project (http://theradioproject.com). >>It has some experimental electronic audio stuff, but hasn't been >>updated for a while, so check the archives. >> >>~Kyle >> >>On 8/15/06, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: >> > Dear All >> > >> > Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with >> > microsound-type material broadcasted? >> > >> > Ta >> > >> > PBJ >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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Tue Aug 15 22:56:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39920-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73176 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:56:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 73165 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:56:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:56:41 -0400 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Se/M8S0ntnA45TNBgnkS3PW3ImsccgGZ3TpOjTYxWs5vlqKgSjIYz6PaCT06+W606Bi+qYRqewmvmm+1UwklKDMXwIqtHK7fLJg03Y/Sex1Zgzg1d9njaMe1WdUCESpPMvk1+gZ8LXRMA7FI40aAVN/M03LMO6HQFp1/LV/QX8I= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Microsound_Podcasts //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ On 8/15/06, Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > You could listen to The Radio Project (http://theradioproject.com). > It has some experimental electronic audio stuff, but hasn't been > updated for a while, so check the archives. > > ~Kyle > > On 8/15/06, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > > Dear All > > > > Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with > > microsound-type material broadcasted? > > > > Ta > > > > PBJ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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Tue Aug 15 16:51:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39919-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24475 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:51:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 24465 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:51:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:51:44 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] .microsound podcasts In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jch3GN9/AQXQQ3zvdydgpGja0vXdDIg4FpI080Y6/YLZyYp4vlaIOSxAdgdXpLOVkK9M8NzeKTOTMVgJGVbhW9QnCmhXIMOgBZFjTKS2IxtTil9dEk6gduoytxprt2pTgIPVfnY92QhhGl1glCkfJ/XfN4mmJw4rytr8sRfm6hE= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You could listen to The Radio Project (http://theradioproject.com). It has some experimental electronic audio stuff, but hasn't been updated for a while, so check the archives. ~Kyle On 8/15/06, P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Dear All > > Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with > microsound-type material broadcasted? > > Ta > > PBJ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 15 14:26:30 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39918-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75424 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:26:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 75413 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:26:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:26:06 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] audio-to-midi converters In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 15, at 6:51 AM, Brian Klein wrote: > why don't you just record the audio and then put the audio into an > audio to midi converter? it would be much more limited, but it > would at least be similar to what you have in mind. Anyone have opinions on audio to midi converters for Mac? How accurate are these plug-ins like Windisoft when it comes to converting polyphonic sound? Thanks, Rod --- Now playing: Ton de Leeuw - Antiphonie (1960) RANDOM RODIO: (often) rodcasting at: http://rodcast.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u "you won't like all of it" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 15 14:24:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39917-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74132 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 74121 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:24:24 +0200 From: Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] Re:[microsound] [ot] ball droppings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C107A5B8.40B9%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That's an idea. Apparently the guy who programmed this already thought about that and has some max patches ready, but I didn't quite get it how it should work. Anyone? Tobias Am 15.8.2006 13:51 Uhr schrieb "Brian Klein" unter <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > why don't you just record the audio and then put the audio into an audio to > midi converter? it would be much more limited, but it would at least be > similar to what you have in mind. > > > Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: This is brilliant, I'd like to > have that spit out midi data... > > T > > > Am 15.8.2006 2:50 Uhr schrieb "choncey langford" unter > : > >> Has anybody played with this? >> >> http://jtnimoy.net/itp/balldroppings >> >> have fun. >> >> >> >> >> >> Choncey >> www.myspace.com/theeoutfit >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> On the road to retirement? 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Tue Aug 15 11:57:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39916-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37720 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:57:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 37708 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:57:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Klein <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re:[microsound] [ot] ball droppings In-reply-to: <C1076567.40B1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_x5UOM9KgJDNW6Hr+WYZZ7g)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hsvgbkiYrP/THLdZ1yB4GrqrECW2wtheRPg+i2Gu9YLjotKQF6DkIJNYNMOcT8zkr5r5SNfWDp5cUZTsOY/TerK9szvnYdf3QRbXAaGZIkE1Up79uTZNQVWT5XXYz1eKXCkAdQRPrR/I+QSi6JaCKoyC3jz69WDnaOok0ObiQUI= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_x5UOM9KgJDNW6Hr+WYZZ7g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit why don't you just record the audio and then put the audio into an audio to midi converter? it would be much more limited, but it would at least be similar to what you have in mind. Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: This is brilliant, I'd like to have that spit out midi data... T Am 15.8.2006 2:50 Uhr schrieb "choncey langford" unter : > Has anybody played with this? > > http://jtnimoy.net/itp/balldroppings > > have fun. > > > > > > Choncey > www.myspace.com/theeoutfit > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? 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Tue Aug 15 11:26:14 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39915-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29429 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:26:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 29398 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:26:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:25:58 +0100 From: P BJ <x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] .microsound podcasts X-Originating-IP: [164.143.240.34] X-Sender: x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [x.x-x@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2006 11:26:03.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[975EC5E0:01C6C05D] Dear All Hello - back after a break - can anyone recommend any podcasts with microsound-type material broadcasted? 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Tue Aug 15 09:50:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39914-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7172 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:50:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 7162 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:50:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:49:59 +0200 From: Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] [ot] ball droppings In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C1076567.40B1%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This is brilliant, I'd like to have that spit out midi data... T Am 15.8.2006 2:50 Uhr schrieb "choncey langford" unter <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>: > Has anybody played with this? > > http://jtnimoy.net/itp/balldroppings > > have fun. > > > > > > Choncey > www.myspace.com/theeoutfit > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Tue Aug 15 00:50:25 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39912-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70497 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:50:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 70481 invoked from network); Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:50:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:50:04 +0000 From: choncey langford <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] ball droppings In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: [69.111.154.108] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2006 00:50:05.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFDE0AC0:01C6C004] Has anybody played with this? http://jtnimoy.net/itp/balldroppings have fun. 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Mon Aug 14 16:30:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39911-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11681 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:30:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 11671 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:30:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:29:54 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] Italian translation in Bay Area To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sorry for the off topic post but I am in need of some English -> Italian translations of some simple documents please contact me off list if you are able to help me with this...you need to be in the Bay Area to help me with this... KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 14 02:58:31 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39910-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16032 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:58:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 16022 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:58:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:58:19 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thom yorke's eraser In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you sir, are absolutely right. i never really liked radiohead until countless listens. now, kid A and amnisiac and that last one, hail to the thief, i think are brilliant pieces of pop song writing. in fact, i'd go so far to say that a lot of what i consider my all time favourite pop albums or experimental albums i hated upon initial listen. i used to sell that kind of stuff, only to find myself rebuying it a later point in time, kicking myself for selling it in the first place. but that's the process i go through. close- mindedness eventually yielding to truth. g. On 13-Aug-06, at 10:43 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > As with anything of Yorke and Radiohead, it takes a few listens to > enjoy completely, but that's the sign of a good work. I like the > minimalist approach and think that it's a solid piece of work. > > ~Kyle > > On 8/13/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: >> haven't really given it a good chance yet... so chances are i'll >> totally change my mind. i do that a lot. which is why i could never >> write reviews. >> >> had a bootleg way before it came out and i never listened to it >> properly. then i bought the real deal when it came out and still >> haven't had the motivation to really give it a good listen. i saw >> radiohead in toronto and was bored to death. they sounded like a >> really good radiohead cover band. every note in the right place. i >> just kind of ODed on the whole thing. like when i stopped listening >> to björk. it was like: enough already. we get it. sincerity refined >> to a science. >> >> from my initial impression, the sound design and beats on eraser are >> nothing groundbreaking. if anything, a bit dated, drained of emotion >> and energy. but i suppose, just like kid A and whatnot, it'll seem >> more progressive to those outside electronic music, which isn't >> entirely a bad thing. in the long run, that is. >> >> what i really liked, though, is johnny greenwood's 'bodysong' >> soundtrack. that's pretty damn cool. check that out. >> >> >> g. >> >> >> On 13-Aug-06, at 5:21 PM, devslashnull wrote: >> >> > i am just wondering what folks think of it. >> > >> > >> > CommTom >> > Communications of Tomorrow >> > "it's only a day away" >> > >> > unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. >> > >> > http://www.commtom.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > -- > > http://theradioproject.com > http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com > > (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) > (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) > ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ > _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ > ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 14 02:43:51 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39909-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12247 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:43:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 12237 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:43:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:43:39 -0500 From: Kyle Klipowicz <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thom yorke's eraser In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KCNwHrVyxF7XHYEQFj7tUHlE2nPTCJjhTcJEjRv98ixrUZm+C4Vf42sN+wGBvMFd03VXqjiidrWlsUvy7V33QRqWrc/Yh1vAp+TsUZ/FEHmO8TovTobG1bPMg+2fZckcMRU9N+r4MiTrgWdEk8p6//bGz+cdCvtqWYAUP5KxiYY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx As with anything of Yorke and Radiohead, it takes a few listens to enjoy completely, but that's the sign of a good work. I like the minimalist approach and think that it's a solid piece of work. ~Kyle On 8/13/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > haven't really given it a good chance yet... so chances are i'll > totally change my mind. i do that a lot. which is why i could never > write reviews. > > had a bootleg way before it came out and i never listened to it > properly. then i bought the real deal when it came out and still > haven't had the motivation to really give it a good listen. i saw > radiohead in toronto and was bored to death. they sounded like a > really good radiohead cover band. every note in the right place. i > just kind of ODed on the whole thing. like when i stopped listening > to björk. it was like: enough already. we get it. sincerity refined > to a science. > > from my initial impression, the sound design and beats on eraser are > nothing groundbreaking. if anything, a bit dated, drained of emotion > and energy. but i suppose, just like kid A and whatnot, it'll seem > more progressive to those outside electronic music, which isn't > entirely a bad thing. in the long run, that is. > > what i really liked, though, is johnny greenwood's 'bodysong' > soundtrack. that's pretty damn cool. check that out. > > > g. > > > On 13-Aug-06, at 5:21 PM, devslashnull wrote: > > > i am just wondering what folks think of it. > > > > > > CommTom > > Communications of Tomorrow > > "it's only a day away" > > > > unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. > > > > http://www.commtom.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 14 02:28:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39908-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7820 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:28:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 7810 invoked from network); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:28:43 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:11:24 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] thom yorke's eraser In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx haven't really given it a good chance yet... so chances are i'll totally change my mind. i do that a lot. which is why i could never write reviews. had a bootleg way before it came out and i never listened to it properly. then i bought the real deal when it came out and still haven't had the motivation to really give it a good listen. i saw radiohead in toronto and was bored to death. they sounded like a really good radiohead cover band. every note in the right place. i just kind of ODed on the whole thing. like when i stopped listening to björk. it was like: enough already. we get it. sincerity refined to a science. from my initial impression, the sound design and beats on eraser are nothing groundbreaking. if anything, a bit dated, drained of emotion and energy. but i suppose, just like kid A and whatnot, it'll seem more progressive to those outside electronic music, which isn't entirely a bad thing. in the long run, that is. what i really liked, though, is johnny greenwood's 'bodysong' soundtrack. that's pretty damn cool. check that out. g. On 13-Aug-06, at 5:21 PM, devslashnull wrote: > i am just wondering what folks think of it. > > > CommTom > Communications of Tomorrow > "it's only a day away" > > unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. > > http://www.commtom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 13 21:37:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39907-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31532 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:37:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 31521 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:37:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:21:33 -0600 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] thom yorke's eraser To: microsound microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8CVxsaHNxeSNKOV2HZtDnQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_8CVxsaHNxeSNKOV2HZtDnQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i am just wondering what folks think of it. CommTom Communications of Tomorrow "it's only a day away" unique electronic music for the adventurous ear. http://www.commtom.com --Boundary_(ID_8CVxsaHNxeSNKOV2HZtDnQ)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 13 13:50:00 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39906-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9320 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:49:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 9307 invoked from network); Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:49:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:49:48 +0200 (CEST) From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx Subject: [microsound] Things to do in Washintong DC To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.xx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey all We're in transit in Washinton DC for nearly 10 hours on sunday 20th and would like to know if any has any suggestions to what one can do with this amount of time in DC? Be it museum/gallery, events or sightings. Coffee offers are appreciated as well. We spent an equal amount of time in Chicago yesterday, and even though it was nice, we found we could use a guide or just more info... please reply off-list to info[at]noisejihad.dk kind regards Lars / www.waldchengarten.dk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 12 20:12:08 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39905-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87687 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:12:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 87677 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:12:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:11:55 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] anyone checked out this virtual instrument mag? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 12, at 2:24 PM, Graham Miller wrote: > http://www.virtualinstrumentsmag.com/ > > it looks pretty cool, but i've never seen it on the newsstands. any > good? Thanks for this link. Can't say that I've seen it, but I'm gonna check my local Micro Center for a copy. Rod --- Now playing: Henk Badings - Cain And Abel (1956) RANDOM RODIO: (often) rodcasting at: http://rodcast.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u "you won't like all of it" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 12 19:56:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39904-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82595 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:56:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 82577 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:56:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:24:36 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] anyone checked out this virtual instrument mag? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.virtualinstrumentsmag.com/ it looks pretty cool, but i've never seen it on the newsstands. any good? g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 12 17:54:38 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39903-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51856 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:54:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 51846 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:54:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:53:57 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] my weekly reminder To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx to all n00bs: please do not post promotional announcements of any kind to the microsound list...also, do not cross post on the main list thanks the mgmt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 12 16:45:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39902-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34995 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:45:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 34985 invoked from network); Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:45:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:18:14 +0200 From: nicola catalano <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] test (please ignore) In-reply-to: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v03110700c10330fa3f1c@[151.28.103.239]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx tst test test test + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "talkers do not know, knowers do not talk." lao-tzu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 11 04:17:24 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39901-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32227 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:17:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 32216 invoked from network); Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:17:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:17:09 -0700 From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] SWO is coming to ISEA2006/ZeroOne San Jose Now!! 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Here is anagma from The SINE WAVE ORCHESTRA. We will have a performance in ISEA2006 / ZeroOne San Jose. If you are in ISEA, please join us. ____________________________________ * The SINE WAVE ORCHESTRA * in ISEA2006/Zero One San Jose * * http://swo.jp/ * * at SOFA District ClosingParty * / Downtown San Jose, 1st Street * Sat. 12th Aug. during 6pm - midnight * (about 1 hour) * * * * * * * * * * * * CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS!! * * Please bring your sine wave!!! * * * The SINE WAVE ORCHESTRA is * organizing a public performance for * ISEA2006/ZeroOne San Jose visitors. * * We invite you to bring any kind of device that * can play a sine wave such as, for example, laptop PCs, * synthesizers, analog oscillators, loudspeaker equipped iPods, * PDAs or mobile phones. * Before attending the performance, please download and * install the software from our web site according to * your operating system: http://swo.jp/faq.html * * For those who do not have this kind of devices or did not manage * to download and install the software, SWO will provide * the device to play a sine wave. Be aware, though, that * the number of devices provided by SWO is limited; * please bring your own device if possible. * * We are looking forward to meet you on the site! * * ENJOY YOUR SINE WAVE LIFE!!! * * * * * * * * * * * * * Thank you! -- * The SINE WAVE ORCHESTRA * http://swo.jp/ * xxxx@xxx.xx * * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thanx ZIF -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Carey [mailto:xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx] Sent: 10 August 2006 14:04 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Dafeldecker/Kurzmann/Fennesz, Pan Sonic/Charlemagne Palestine Hey all! If anyone is interested in the Pan Sonic/Charlemagne Palestine collaboration or the live Dafeldecker/Kurzmann/Fennesz/O'Rourke/ Drumm/Siewert on Charhizma, please contact me offlist... Thanks, -Patrick xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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If anyone is interested in the Pan Sonic/Charlemagne Palestine collaboration or the live Dafeldecker/Kurzmann/Fennesz/O'Rourke/ Drumm/Siewert on Charhizma, please contact me offlist... Thanks, -Patrick xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Sender: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx To: Philippe Petit <xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Cc: annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxx-xx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, ambient <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx_xxxxxxx_xxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, idm - moderated <xxx-x@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> Errors-to: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gt2qzN2UEAnRDReJjy6J1w)" Precedence: list X-BeenThere: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx Delivered-to: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx X-Original-To: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx X-ME-UUID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8rc1 List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Subscribe: <http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce>, <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx?subject=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce>, <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://or8.net/pipermail/microsound-announce> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx?subject=help> List-Id: microsound related announcements <microsound-announce.microsound.nexthop.net> Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_gt2qzN2UEAnRDReJjy6J1w) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Mailsmith-E7D7E34C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Mailsmith-E7D7E34C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Hope you enjoy a nice Summer To keep patienting until our proper site is ready, our collective is now having a Space. Feel free to invade it and find infos, pictures, visit our friends : http://www.myspace.com/stringsofconsciousness This week Strings Of Consciousness is "accelerated"... Getting close to celebrate their 100th issue the American magazine XLR8R is certainly one of the world's leading publication dealing with Electronic Cultures. Thus we are honoured that they selected one of our songs as their favourite for the week, and offer it in their INCITE Online series... You can download the free mp3 from there : http://www.xlr8r.com/downloads.php Besides XLR8R wrote : "Strings of Consciousness sounds something like a cross between a very competent experimental electronic artists and a well-done movie soundtrack. The nine-man musical collective manages to remain in synch through the numerous pianos, guitars, basses, bleeps and clicks that appear throughout their tracks, and create a rhythm together that is haunting, unpredictable, and curiously feel good at the same time." We are enjoying our first internationally distributed release on the BiP_HOp Generation series of compilation. Available in your favourites stores or online from the label... http://www.bip-hop.com v. 8 offers 79 minutes which illustrate perfectly the contemporary alliance of acoustic instruments and digital technologies in music BiP_HOp Generation v. 8 [bleep 32] MURCOF works primarily with orchestral samples, processing the sound sources into new textures and fusing them with microscopic sounds and rhythms. His music is published on Leaf records. TENNIS is the occasional project of Ben Edwards (Benge) and Douglas Benford (si-cut.db). Their music is an amalgam of miniature rhythmic sounds and digitized processing. MITCHELL AKIYAMA is a Montreal based composer, interested in unconventional ways of playing conventional instruments. He has recorded for Sub Rosa, Raster- Noton, Substractif, Staalplaat, and several others... MINAMO is an electro-acoustic quartet from Tokyo, they have released music for 12K, Apestaartje, Cubic... TU M' is a duo from central Italy, who chose their name from Marcel Duchamp's last painting. They have released records on labels such as Dekorder, Phthalo, ERS/Staalplaat, Fallt... STRINGS OF CONSCIOUSNESS work on musical motifs that can evoke at times a stormy, cinematic, or contemporary atmosphere. thanx for your attention philippe --Mailsmith-E7D7E34C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Hello</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Hope you enjoy a nice Summer</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B>To keep patienting until our proper site is ready, our collective is now having a Space. </B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B>Feel free to invade it and find infos, pictures, visit our friends :</B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><A href="http://www.myspace.com/stringsofconsciousness">http://www.myspace.com/stringsofconsciousness</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF250A" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">This week Strings Of Consciousness is "accelerated"...</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Getting close to celebrate their 100th issue the American magazine XLR8R is certainly one of the world's leading publication dealing with Electronic Cultures. </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Thus we are honoured that they selected one of our songs as their favourite for the week, and offer it in their INCITE Online series... You can download the free mp3 from there :</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><A href="http://www.xlr8r.com/downloads.php">http://www.xlr8r.com/downloads.php</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR style="font-family: Times; font-size: 13px; "></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">Besides XLR8R wrote :</SPAN></FONT><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B><I>"</I></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B><I>Strings of Consciousness sounds something like a cross between a very competent experimental electronic artists and a well-done movie soundtrack. The nine-man musical collective manages to remain in synch through the numerous pianos, guitars, basses, bleeps and clicks that appear throughout their tracks, and create a rhythm together that is haunting, unpredictable, and curiously feel good at the same ti</I></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">me</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">.</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">"</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR style="font-family: Times; font-size: 13px; "></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF2A0F" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B>W</B></SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF2A0F" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B>e are enjoying our first internationally distributed release on the BiP_HOp Generation series of compilation. Available in your favourites stores or online from the label...</B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF2A0F" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF2A0F" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><B><A href="http://www.bip-hop.com">http://www.bip-hop.com</A></B></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR style="font-family: Times; font-size: 13px; "></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">v. 8 offers 79 minutes which illustrate perfectly the contemporary alliance of acoustic instruments and digital technologies in music</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><BR style="font-family: Times; font-size: 13px; "></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">BiP_HOp Generation v. 8 [bleep 32]</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">MURCOF works primarily with orchestral samples, processing the sound sources into new textures and fusing them with microscopic sounds and rhythms. His music is published on Leaf records.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">TENNIS is the occasional project of Ben Edwards (Benge) and Douglas Benford (si-cut.db). Their music is an amalgam of miniature rhythmic sounds and digitized processing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">MITCHELL AKIYAMA is a Montreal based composer, interested in unconventional ways</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">of playing conventional instruments. He has recorded for Sub Rosa, Raster- Noton, Substractif, Staalplaat, and several others...</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">MINAMO is an electro-acoustic quartet from Tokyo, they have released music for 12K, Apestaartje, Cubic...</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">TU M' is a duo from central Italy, who chose their name from Marcel Duchamp's last painting. They have released records on labels such as Dekorder, Phthalo, ERS/Staalplaat, Fallt...</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">STRINGS OF CONSCIOUSNESS work on musical motifs that can evoke at times a stormy, cinematic, or contemporary atmosphere.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; ">thanx for your attention</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ; font-family: Helvetica; ">philippe</DIV></BODY></HTML> --Mailsmith-E7D7E34C-44B7-11DB-B343-000D932C0D78-- --Boundary_(ID_gt2qzN2UEAnRDReJjy6J1w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ Microsound-announce mailing list xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce --Boundary_(ID_gt2qzN2UEAnRDReJjy6J1w)-- From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 21:32:22 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39898-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75166 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:32:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 75156 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:32:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:32:06 -0500 From: Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Clyfford Still In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I3Ybvb86p2O1s6uF3yf4F1cQVdn++4kmwC4NOH4/0ub7AMjOQ7Zoy/44VBXjEBR+mDq/CMGM2qwWxTiOkU5HewgTbP02J2jaYtrKt+I9Mqngxk2hVjJsQxaAK00bA9w0h2KrC80r6r6nsuLbmwSBRLuwZDKJ1HBM06ZndwlD/Ls= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It does look that way when it's flattened out to a print or digital image but I wonder what it would feel like when viewed in person... may have a different feel with the ability to perceive the depth of brush strokes, paint caked on there, etc. I mention this as someone who didn't understand how color was important to mid 20th century painters until I actually saw several paintings at the Metropolitan Museum in NYC - for artists like Rothko, for example, the size of the painting and the intensity of the color are really what struck me, but it never came across in prints and I always thought he was weak until then... Kevin On 8/8/06, Thaniel Lee <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > anyone ever notice that the work of Clyfford Still looks very > electronic. almost like autechre or pan sonic album covers, but > slightly more organic > -t > > -- > xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > http://thanielarts.blogspot.com/ > http://blog.myspace.com/bridlewire > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have compassion for your hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 20:27:45 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39897-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43552 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:27:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 43539 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:27:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:20:20 -0400 From: billy gomberg <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] apple repair hard drive snafu In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ck+2fEaJ/kRZu9Ph5PXq470PZJPuf2OHoiurtROhCVcVY1RE/cklEoOO26RIwj/vQxF+t2iNqseLHTzdEvmLnDJFRkhnSmtFN9WPzRpI1UNYp5jkAbaxbsLaVeGzW4zFnm8xGYzpyp+3y6ZBaHED5emA5oYNF+z+i0VPt2y8+Rw= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx with empathy! I had one year of back-and forths with Apple over a faulty hard drive. I took my machine (out of warranty) to Tekserve, they diagnosed the problem. After haggling with "customer relations" I had a new hard drive in with no cost to me. lesson: don't take it to Apple if you don't have to. Their service has seriously declined in the last 1.5/2 years. If in NYC take it to Tekserve. If somewhere else, find the equivalent. b fraufraulein.com On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > I recently had the hard drive in my iBook LOST by Flextronics/Apple > Repair and consequently replaced with a new one (without a system > on it!) -- the backups I had created - which I thought were good - > turned out to have been corrupted by my iBook somehow (possibly a > faulty HD but I'll never find out) and hence useless -- so the most > recent backup I have is from February 15 2006...slowly I am trying > to rebuild my drive... > > word of advice: if you have third party RAM and/or a 3rd party hard > drive in a laptop which has gone to Apple Repair, you should > indicate *exactly* (on the work order) how you want your 3rd party > hardware dealt with when repairing and returning your laptop... > > to wit: I had replaced the paltry 40G HD in my G3 iBook with a > beefy 100G for working on video and audio files -- both were > Hitachi TravelStar hard drives...while in for repair, Apple decided > to remove my 100G and install a 40G -- this was to return the unit > to its original configuration even though I had told them on the > phone to send the laptop back and *not* to replace the hard drive... > > its a long involved illogical story - which ended up costing me 4 > months of work - but my advice is to be very careful when sending > anything into Apple Repair...the 'geniuses' at the Apple Genius Bar > aren't always geniuses... > > the repair company Apple contracts out to - in the USA - (for the > heavy lifting sorts of repairs) is a company called Flextronics in > Memphis, TN...you have no way to contact Flextronics directly about > issues concerning your equipment and as a result are buffered by > the Apple Repair people...while Apple has come a long way with > their customer service they still have some traveling to do still... > > the take-away is: I am trying to reconstruct all my business > correspondence from Feb --> mid-July and although I have been lucky > with having some of it backed up on servers there are still large > gaps remaining... > > one such gap is correspondence from an organizer in Tomar, Portugal > > ***will the person from Tomar who emailed me about my sGA workshop > please contact me? > > sorry about the off topic post > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 19:31:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39896-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15220 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:31:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 15203 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:31:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:30:06 -0400 From: Thaniel Lee <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Clyfford Still To: "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LoKgcMo3XNw94Z+9aG8h19b6xR/vmohnuxTZb4p58yFuMH8Ni8SgYg7Top19frr8HdJ3ALMfXx5UdoWIssDab0s6tGupjk/B3VNaQwiMN8WouCo0yBynWC8egomE4Ti1zGZJXy8fFJ3sa7MzzewGQ8ncqfmTy4w7eOQvEP7pOnc= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone ever notice that the work of Clyfford Still looks very electronic. almost like autechre or pan sonic album covers, but slightly more organic -t -- xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://thanielarts.blogspot.com/ http://blog.myspace.com/bridlewire --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 19:23:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39895-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10352 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:23:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 10341 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:23:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:22:59 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 4.242.102.244 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XXxITPGvLJyzAbyX/akfNujqz6qCuB3addXHQd2fcG/GIMoIVixCZlqmjK+35Qk4; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; X-ELNK-Trace: f6dd78c2ac81c6498eb596e2db90c20d239a348a220c26093438b0b9ced369245add4346806999732601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Stephen Hastings-King wrote: > i think r. murray schaeffer's book "the tuning of the world" opens > with an > extended survey of the place accorded sound in european fiction--if i > rememebr, he focusses quite alot of attention on rabelais and proust--i > remember the rabelais sections better as they involve the chapter from > book > 4 on frozen words, which is most lovely.... > It looks like 'R. Murray Schafer' if you're trying to find the book. our neurons float like seaweed in the water of the night , touching one another , beyond our control. (jean cocteau) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 19:20:56 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39894-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8987 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:20:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 8971 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:20:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:15:56 +0200 From: nicola catalano <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v03110702c0fe925720fb@[151.28.88.60]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> Howdy, >> While we're on the topic of reading lists, can anyone suggest some >> novels or short stories, where the authors have written about sound in >> an imaginative or speculative way? >> Thanks, >> M >> there's an old short novel by james g. ballard strictly related to sound and amplification, it turns out very funny and frightening in the end. can't remember the title and my books are still packed in huge boxes due to a recent moving to check at this very moment. will post again, in case. cheers. nic + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + PLEASE REMEMBER MY NEW POSTAL ADDRESS: NICOLA CATALANO CASELLA POSTALE 193 00128 ROMA SPINACETO ITALY --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 19:07:06 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39893-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3307 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:06:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 3296 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:06:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:43:25 -0400 From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c6bb1a$88048820$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The sine fiction site/a sub of notype @ http://www.notype.com/sine has a fair catalogue of soundtracks to science fiction novels...peoples impressions/interpretations...some very interesting takes... //*-----Original Message----- //*From: erik de bruyn [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx] //*Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:25 PM //*To: microsound //*Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound //* //*speaking of novels around sound, i once saw a movie about a blind boy //* all movie-long you only hear what he hears, great movie , but i forgot //*name ....:( //* erik //* //* //*--------------------------------- //* Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to //*use" - The Wall Street Journal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 18:05:17 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39891-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81540 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:04:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 81530 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:04:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:04:26 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] apple repair hard drive snafu To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I recently had the hard drive in my iBook LOST by Flextronics/Apple Repair and consequently replaced with a new one (without a system on it!) -- the backups I had created - which I thought were good - turned out to have been corrupted by my iBook somehow (possibly a faulty HD but I'll never find out) and hence useless -- so the most recent backup I have is from February 15 2006...slowly I am trying to rebuild my drive... word of advice: if you have third party RAM and/or a 3rd party hard drive in a laptop which has gone to Apple Repair, you should indicate *exactly* (on the work order) how you want your 3rd party hardware dealt with when repairing and returning your laptop... to wit: I had replaced the paltry 40G HD in my G3 iBook with a beefy 100G for working on video and audio files -- both were Hitachi TravelStar hard drives...while in for repair, Apple decided to remove my 100G and install a 40G -- this was to return the unit to its original configuration even though I had told them on the phone to send the laptop back and *not* to replace the hard drive... its a long involved illogical story - which ended up costing me 4 months of work - but my advice is to be very careful when sending anything into Apple Repair...the 'geniuses' at the Apple Genius Bar aren't always geniuses... the repair company Apple contracts out to - in the USA - (for the heavy lifting sorts of repairs) is a company called Flextronics in Memphis, TN...you have no way to contact Flextronics directly about issues concerning your equipment and as a result are buffered by the Apple Repair people...while Apple has come a long way with their customer service they still have some traveling to do still... the take-away is: I am trying to reconstruct all my business correspondence from Feb --> mid-July and although I have been lucky with having some of it backed up on servers there are still large gaps remaining... one such gap is correspondence from an organizer in Tomar, Portugal ***will the person from Tomar who emailed me about my sGA workshop please contact me? sorry about the off topic post --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 18:08:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39892-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83258 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:08:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 83248 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:08:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:01:22 -0400 From: nick knouf <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx As a slight tangent, some of you might be interested in _Sight of Sound_ by Richard Leppert: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=72-0520203429-0 It's an academic book focusing on how music and performance were depicted in European paintings and drawings from the 1600s to 1900. An interesting book that goes into some of the same issues we've been talking about over the past couple weeks, as well as dealing with the problem of non-aural sound representation. nick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 17:33:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39890-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70451 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:33:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 70441 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:33:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:33:34 -0500 From: Stephen Hastings-King <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_M6ANBOHpSwtYWknlorApsw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b8UnCIQVO9NtolZqjjPq6OwEr5it8img5pVPp2skGpHPvEMYSdi/QMdldnDXJjqysGdGXEui5GpiKFg9i3pALPD/Zle7cneiITNeoa9GISGSStkdRP2G2DVkTDfw4SXjKyQWQxN3GFndOnkxjQD30OYyNsUUefjxqPmuQNQhaDY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_M6ANBOHpSwtYWknlorApsw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think r. murray schaeffer's book "the tuning of the world" opens with an extended survey of the place accorded sound in european fiction--if i rememebr, he focusses quite alot of attention on rabelais and proust--i remember the rabelais sections better as they involve the chapter from book 4 on frozen words, which is most lovely.... more recvently, iain sinclair's psychogeographies have interesting stuff on sound here and there: check out "london orbital" for example. cage was quite fond of thoreau on listening/sound--you can find riffs based on sections from thoreau in "silence", "x" and other writings/interviews. joyce is quite cool for sound stuff as well, particularly "finnegans wake"--i like cage's roratorio, but not particularly as an actual reading of fw. the book is much more interesting. it is also really rough reading in places. in general, there is a problem with writing about sound--how do you do it? if you name the source, you collapse the description--if you dont name the source, it is quite difficult to say anything. language is a fixed medium and it fixes what it describes. sound is otherwise. what do you say about sound? do you imitate it? do you desribe your reactions to it? do you desribe the waveforms, teh acoustic environment and their interactions? how do you write about sound? stephen --Boundary_(ID_M6ANBOHpSwtYWknlorApsw)-- From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 16:31:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39889-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46326 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:31:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 46314 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:31:19 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:24:37 +0100 (BST) From: erik de bruyn <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_enn7bOZeMfO3WClKTUJZOA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RooRWajZ/xl0QHESzrv3GKolioj4U5L2oeOBRkOI7duML3xZ2dh6E2DKEyXij4oeT7OFxtYSYNw1A+wxh4kmoRJVGTCjscJQ7mO/UUtLPIwb0PG/wffYKT4MfxftPmWFJhy2P+Isby+89EEZWhlUQA+DPuxyNs7vgZjd5ygmDNU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_enn7bOZeMfO3WClKTUJZOA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit speaking of novels around sound, i once saw a movie about a blind boy all movie-long you only hear what he hears, great movie , but i forgot name ....:( erik --------------------------------- Try the all-new Yahoo! 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Tue Aug 8 07:22:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39888-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10946 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:21:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 10936 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:21:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:21:53 +0200 From: Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] Re:[microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <C0FE07D9.3FDF%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0FE0831.3FE2%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I just began reading Hermann Hesse's Das Glasperlenspiel ( The Glass Bead > Game), and it seems it would also fit into this category, as well as is many > others. Of course I meant "as well as in many others". T --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 07:20:49 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39887-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9617 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:20:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 9607 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:20:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:20:25 +0200 From: Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0FE07D9.3FDF%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I just began reading Hermann Hesse's Das Glasperlenspiel ( The Glass Bead Game), and it seems it would also fit into this category, as well as is many others. Here's the book description from amazon "The final novel of Hermann Hesse, for which he won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1946, The Glass Bead Game is a fascinating tale of the complexity of modern life as well as a classic of modern literatureSet in the 23rd century, The Glass Bead Game is the story of Joseph Knecht, who has been raised in Castalia, the remote place his society has provided for the intellectual elite to grow and flourish. Since childhood, Knecht has been consumed with mastering the Glass Bead Game, which requires a synthesis of aesthetics and scientific arts, such as mathematics, music, logic, and philosophy, which he achieves in adulthood, becoming a Magister Ludi (Master of the Game)." Tobias Am 8.8.2006 4:09 Uhr schrieb "benjamin c acree" unter <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > Gravity's Rainbow comes to mind (but of course there isn't much that > it leaves out). > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 02:09:19 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39886-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25293 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:09:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 25282 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:09:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:09:03 -0500 From: benjamin c acree <xxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K9SDcNuhQH2NqXRaQLibwmNNQL+1QnZ1fXVDDikKSIOJ7hPKfHloYt4y77GuF1pqygy15+Ae1KPRUb1aiSpeJXMvuhzZVyEUHv/XbBaOGCEWSHWE0L6cs+UqRfAv/Pj5njn/MJfkAhzIHOC3CwmFpT90PtLBeSDW1XTv7rTwFis= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Gravity's Rainbow comes to mind (but of course there isn't much that it leaves out). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Aug 8 01:55:20 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39885-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19758 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:55:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 19743 invoked from network); Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:55:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:48:24 -0700 (PDT) From: sushi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JaE8NN6da3dEyf2RiJfINqL0OPzA2bak5rRHaduAH7bAiaB1CUBbiP6gEiI9aR/VHuJ15tmJlxIOrNaQTvVDHYU75uaVjfY8MCOVvrIzCvS8NEaEW+9mwNzWfAxBG6VsvSkk5gfGqeTPrPVZQ0xD6+XYVivirINAtj4XIcYfFms= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The Memory of Whiteness by Kim Stanley Robinson is structured around a musical instrument, a recommended read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Memory_of_Whiteness Nice topic for this list considering the way that so many of us use other art forms and data in the process of making music. Richard aka Part of Me:Apparatus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 7 23:22:25 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39884-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.99]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta28.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60987 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:22:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 60967 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:22:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:22:06 -0400 From: Paulo Mouat <xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] psico-acoustics foundation for sound processing In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TXGFj26MeE9ceD4S0agE8WkTRxbIYuJxW7I+b0mMGBg5z9hTqSxOtTVpHYCgHel/VBCIQ4ul19LT3uLMKZHPA66BnpnFkOFqnKTNUOPp0LtyCUDSOokUfJkXBHF7m7vqLTD6PFQ6359SyT+x5b8aUvLnwscRLnuT4mGYHUcLLEo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tremolo and vibrato actually work the other way around: Tremolo on intensity, vibrato on frequency. //p http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/ On 8/7/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > based on some knownledge, we can assume that more Reverbetation causes the > brain to think that the intensity of the soud _on its origin_ is greater, so > it may be an event that requires some attention. > > that's the same for Compression that causes a greater volume perception. > > a Tremollo gives oscilation on the freqüêncie domain, a caracterisctic > property of speech communication and of animal comunication, or in natural > fenomena like a bamboo in ressonance with the wind. > > Same for Vibrato, but in the intensity domain. > > and so on. > > Have anyone any literature or links on the subject? Expeculations are cool > too! > > renf > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 7 20:19:42 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39883-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89516 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:19:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 89488 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:19:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:19:24 -0400 From: chris mcnamara <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There is a fantastic short story by John Cheever called "The Enormous Radio". It's about a couple who live in an apartment and their new radio begins to broadcast the various dramas unfolding in their neighbouring apartments. The descriptions of how the sounds mingle with music really anticipate sampling and noise composition. cheers Chris thinkbox.ca On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Richard Whitelaw wrote: > Thoreau - Walden > > A great chapter on environmental sound and listening > > Cheers > > Richard > > On 5/8/06 5:34 pm, "mel ducasse" <xxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > >> Howdy, >> While we're on the topic of reading lists, can anyone suggest some >> novels or short stories, where the authors have written about sound in >> an imaginative or speculative way? >> Thanks, >> M >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Aug 7 16:24:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39882-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94154 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:24:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 94133 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:24:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:24:00 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] psico-acoustics foundation for sound processing To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mBHfxwPJaGOtpqD99v+mgQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=flG6GhnGkz57zFRcFRqoiZeskNMp7RJcIVKiSr3oHvQJmCXUfIbDojB97XENm96I6oIrfk8ncqkauFsIhQOzAwa1fWN2LayPLQk6rcimmK1mFkQskkSqTpDKNf3hGlo35uTC2Fxbt+cOkCUalLAyA2jFHRqoo3tA8YHnuZ6z+ms= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_mBHfxwPJaGOtpqD99v+mgQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit based on some knownledge, we can assume that more Reverbetation causes the brain to think that the intensity of the soud _on its origin_ is greater, so it may be an event that requires some attention. that's the same for Compression that causes a greater volume perception. a Tremollo gives oscilation on the freqüêncie domain, a caracterisctic property of speech communication and of animal comunication, or in natural fenomena like a bamboo in ressonance with the wind. Same for Vibrato, but in the intensity domain. and so on. Have anyone any literature or links on the subject? Expeculations are cool too! renf --Boundary_(ID_mBHfxwPJaGOtpqD99v+mgQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Aug 7 09:46:30 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39881-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 07 Aug 2006 05:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 05:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69558 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:46:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 69547 invoked from network); Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:46:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:46:19 +0100 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0FCCA7B.1008A%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thoreau - Walden A great chapter on environmental sound and listening Cheers Richard On 5/8/06 5:34 pm, "mel ducasse" <xxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > Howdy, > While we're on the topic of reading lists, can anyone suggest some > novels or short stories, where the authors have written about sound in > an imaginative or speculative way? > Thanks, > M > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 09:10:48 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39880-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47738 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:10:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 47722 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:10:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:10:30 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <016901c6b938$2bcd74b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Don't forget to update the Wiki with new information if you want to share! For Linux related things go here: http://www.interdisciplina.org/microsound-wiki/index.php/Linux_Software /Björn Eriksson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renato Fabbri" <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW > use synaptic, it will install jack. > > if this list is intended to be totally software discussion free, please > let > me know. but that is not evident on recent topics. > > renf > > 2006/8/5, Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: >> >> I think (if I'm correct) that the list is supposed to shy away from >> particular software-based discussions, so I'm not sure if this borders >> on the edge, but I will say that there's a direct connection between >> everything we all argued about politically a couple weeks ago and free >> software with its relationship to art, sound, and politics. I think >> everyone can agree with that, no matter what kind of software you're >> using. >> >> Kevin >> [distro: Ubuntu (powerpc) >> apps: Pd; I should be up and running with Ardour soon when I feel like >> taking the time to configure jack.] >> >> On 8/5/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> > I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW users are >> here, >> > I cant tell how popular it is becoming in sound art production, so here >> we >> > go. >> > >> > It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the >> > distro. >> > >> > starting: >> > >> > distro: Linics (ubuntu based) >> > >> > apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms >> > >> > ref >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their >> price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become >> commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have >> compassion for your hands. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 06:04:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39879-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87008 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:04:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 86995 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:04:37 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:04:31 +0200 From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 81.224.200.117 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Zzzzzzzzzzz ...... 6 aug 2006 kl. 07.59 skrev Renato Fabbri: > Fedora 5? Is Planet CCRMA updated? I tryed old Fedora 3 in january > and it > was not a bit on time. dummy doing, maybe, i've heard of > reposioties of > planet ccarma for fedora 5? nice stuff? > > 2006/8/5, thewade <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >> >> Oops. Sorry for my previous post. >> >> BTW, what is the protocaul for posting on this list: top-posting or >> bottom-posting our replys? >> >> -thewade >> >> Quoting Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: >> >> > [distro: Ubuntu (powerpc) >> > apps: Pd; I should be up and running with Ardour soon when I >> feel like >> > taking the time to configure jack.] >> > >> > On 8/5/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW >> users are >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 05:59:32 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39878-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84375 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:59:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 84361 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 05:59:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:59:16 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_X16oBI6gek5W4dnbNkYdFA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BTFCXqyB18JAPJUK4ruLP4YOcCpUls9dthty1fjIif+nKAxRL4d6yB+pp9oPF01J7jNgUHAm6x5jPqGKUSQ9+A5nNIj80K78bk+XCarRAKh8nUZP3cckRTyEtd+MOg4Usc7W0jFmQLW77khD+p9q6s4sZ94miipuuPxrnLfNZhA= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_X16oBI6gek5W4dnbNkYdFA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fedora 5? Is Planet CCRMA updated? I tryed old Fedora 3 in january and it was not a bit on time. dummy doing, maybe, i've heard of reposioties of planet ccarma for fedora 5? nice stuff? 2006/8/5, thewade <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: > > Oops. Sorry for my previous post. > > BTW, what is the protocaul for posting on this list: top-posting or > bottom-posting our replys? > > -thewade > > Quoting Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > > > I think (if I'm correct) that the list is supposed to shy away from > > particular software-based discussions, so I'm not sure if this borders > > on the edge, but I will say that there's a direct connection between > > everything we all argued about politically a couple weeks ago and free > > software with its relationship to art, sound, and politics. I think > > everyone can agree with that, no matter what kind of software you're > > using. > > > > Kevin > > [distro: Ubuntu (powerpc) > > apps: Pd; I should be up and running with Ardour soon when I feel like > > taking the time to configure jack.] > > > > On 8/5/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW users are > here, > >> I cant tell how popular it is becoming in sound art production, so here > we > >> go. > >> > >> It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the > distro. > >> > >> starting: > >> > >> distro: Linics (ubuntu based) > >> > >> apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms > >> > >> ref > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their > > price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become > > commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have > > compassion for your hands. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_X16oBI6gek5W4dnbNkYdFA)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 02:40:12 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39877-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 67771 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:39:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 67758 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:39:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:40:59 -0700 From: thewade <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Authentication-warning: moon.aproximation.org: apache set sender to xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx using -f Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Oops. Sorry for my previous post. BTW, what is the protocaul for posting on this list: top-posting or bottom-posting our replys? -thewade Quoting Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > I think (if I'm correct) that the list is supposed to shy away from > particular software-based discussions, so I'm not sure if this borders > on the edge, but I will say that there's a direct connection between > everything we all argued about politically a couple weeks ago and free > software with its relationship to art, sound, and politics. I think > everyone can agree with that, no matter what kind of software you're > using. > > Kevin > [distro: Ubuntu (powerpc) > apps: Pd; I should be up and running with Ardour soon when I feel like > taking the time to configure jack.] > > On 8/5/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW users are here, >> I cant tell how popular it is becoming in sound art production, so here we >> go. >> >> It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the distro. >> >> starting: >> >> distro: Linics (ubuntu based) >> >> apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms >> >> ref >> >> > > > -- > "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their > price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become > commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have > compassion for your hands. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 02:38:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39876-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66531 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:38:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 66521 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 02:38:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:39:09 -0700 From: thewade <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Authentication-warning: moon.aproximation.org: apache set sender to xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx using -f Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Quoting Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the distro. > > starting: > > distro: Linics (ubuntu based) > > apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms > > ref OS: Fedora Core 5 (x86_64 machine running i386) HW: Hammerfall HDSP SW: PD 0.39-1 primairly -thewade --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 01:07:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39875-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39793 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:07:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 39781 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:07:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:07:15 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HemwhNIIUObzV9Eo3OtO1w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Avg6Dcw31pBcPpaXYUF1rvhDXNOKnAf6Jz6wusZQiqXdYvTp16l1Afpq3aovmujeGgTWo7+3Ofn7WltSDAlOVUkSRe1bppgVcrfg78vx/ngdRVRks0QKeNqyCCGble5yLhDO9mg7MeNfINu+P3IGXfx6xG1uVZmLYiQv49O2v4E= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_HemwhNIIUObzV9Eo3OtO1w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit use synaptic, it will install jack. if this list is intended to be totally software discussion free, please let me know. but that is not evident on recent topics. renf 2006/8/5, Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > > I think (if I'm correct) that the list is supposed to shy away from > particular software-based discussions, so I'm not sure if this borders > on the edge, but I will say that there's a direct connection between > everything we all argued about politically a couple weeks ago and free > software with its relationship to art, sound, and politics. I think > everyone can agree with that, no matter what kind of software you're > using. > > Kevin > [distro: Ubuntu (powerpc) > apps: Pd; I should be up and running with Ardour soon when I feel like > taking the time to configure jack.] > > On 8/5/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW users are > here, > > I cant tell how popular it is becoming in sound art production, so here > we > > go. > > > > It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the distro. > > > > starting: > > > > distro: Linics (ubuntu based) > > > > apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms > > > > ref > > > > > > > -- > "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their > price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become > commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have > compassion for your hands. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_HemwhNIIUObzV9Eo3OtO1w)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 01:03:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39874-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37710 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:03:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 37699 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:03:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:03:31 -0500 From: Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Linux DAW In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MNW/BEKBXnMPD2Sl8v8Tyzpr7frtYZNnlDAOPI5eUlXmhuwaswd8ZzipvfPW3lLHStW9pIUJwwlxoLg9TSrm9jKDMLtnGrUkWTT6Ovy8PVdUoldK1zuKEUIpZlsqKk+lGRYGr+IG3huSSo00TAenBHb8T8NCE67l1iQOyDppkWM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think (if I'm correct) that the list is supposed to shy away from particular software-based discussions, so I'm not sure if this borders on the edge, but I will say that there's a direct connection between everything we all argued about politically a couple weeks ago and free software with its relationship to art, sound, and politics. I think everyone can agree with that, no matter what kind of software you're using. Kevin [distro: Ubuntu (powerpc) apps: Pd; I should be up and running with Ardour soon when I feel like taking the time to configure jack.] On 8/5/06, Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW users are here, > I cant tell how popular it is becoming in sound art production, so here we > go. > > It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the distro. > > starting: > > distro: Linics (ubuntu based) > > apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms > > ref > > -- "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have compassion for your hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 00:44:27 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39873-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31645 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:44:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 31633 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:44:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:44:14 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Linux DAW To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PYXWjgVw5/I5Y9x5hMYr2w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=r/8n9SWOQaO7BjiqPs4xPkX9ANvUzTKTh3Cv5Z0ik0lQfHmOSE5+LWSrti7jO8GuOQBL/tfhVFjE7ZUcgbe+Bfgr5TDkEc7+J61KnnMgx6QtaZQOCzUHYIIoGotDhnij5LaFMeKxbiNgP8rwIh4OL6e41opqZmQM6Xv8gk34kyM= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_PYXWjgVw5/I5Y9x5hMYr2w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read some topics and got curious about how manny linux DAW users are here, I cant tell how popular it is becoming in sound art production, so here we go. It will be cool to list some of the apps you use mostly, and the distro. starting: distro: Linics (ubuntu based) apps mostly used: PD, ardour, audacity, jack, jack-rack, xmms ref --Boundary_(ID_PYXWjgVw5/I5Y9x5hMYr2w)-- From ???@??? Sun Aug 6 00:39:33 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39872-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29212 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:39:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 29199 invoked from network); Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:39:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:39:22 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wk/odJXzLLCIZqJc0XId9w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=B2XtC5B4Pal+iCQX3WfT8ZfsYyTNsVqSDHqGeX36Oak9lVWF8gBLHiCKniq1UAFDKAHa2dpTRufM/OXPSHwCoLqwD3kstN66R1Uef1r7XkbAzf+VZSmt6iamgCJGZnuWEgDxu2DgSKixK+5o3gL6PFjr+xWPEeF6wOy992iIyuE= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_wk/odJXzLLCIZqJc0XId9w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, a linux DAW can do anything at _no_ cost, just a good connection to the web is necessary becouse it requires constant and intensive learning, btw, PD has more features in linux. Just to try it out, get Apodio that runs intirely from a bootable CD and has lots of the most useful apps, and you can take it to grandma's house ;-P the link: http://www.apo33.org/apodio/doku.php kisses, renf 2006/8/4, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx>: > > NI's komplete is a great deal too, i think. worth every penny. > > On 4-Aug-06, at 6:09 PM, David Powers wrote: > > > Which is why so much software gets stolen, because even a lot of > > people who > > make their living doing music (at least the ones I know), can't > > afford those > > kind of prices... Even software I've bought, turns out to be too > > expensive > > to keep up with the overpriced upgrades. > > > > *Two exceptions to this that are NOT overpriced, in my opinion, are > > Plogue > > Bidule, and Audiomulch. Much love to those developers making > > software that > > working people, including working musicians, can afford. > > > > These days, I have tried to get away from overpriced (or stolen) > > stuff and > > stick with all the excellent free software that is available, as > > much as I > > can. I hope especially to see Pure Data keep developing to be able > > to do > > more and more things that were once the domain of expensive commercial > > programs. > > > > ~David > > > > On 8/4/06, Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> no I meant that 99 percent of pro level software is that price. go > >> into > >> any pro recording studio and you will see that 500 is the starting > >> price > >> for pro apps. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_wk/odJXzLLCIZqJc0XId9w)-- From ???@??? Sat Aug 5 23:16:14 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39871-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3526 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:16:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 3514 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:16:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:15:56 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B1Ee51uPKFJ+ni3vz7hAgY5iPkUME41AMfgh1uwnh2PCmeXN7Q1ObpHuzahdkyDzj6xdMelApmvoE53N5peXJ+54pahmLgh65Tulkue99aDMgq02HrS/hcrpP91LwDWzt7BXz29EnMbBGjVmX3KIM4Oaemy/Mae6rTdVz5IuC2s= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx and joseph conrad and max havelar and slew of others...actually a subject much on my mind...how corrupted cinema is for example by syrup sound---what is the sonic element of the heart of darkness per esempio --- rinus van alebeek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > berlin alexanderplatz by alfred döblin, > > Some sequences he might never have written when he > could have used a > recording device; > that's how parts of this book 'sound' like. > > greetings to you all, > > rinus > -- > activities, releases, downloads > http://emc.yserv.com/103 > > In Berlin http://no-bf.blogspot.com/ > > salon bruit in berlin http://salonbruit.blogspot.com > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 5 20:43:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39870-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58187 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:43:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 58176 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:43:02 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:43:00 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Level Compression Recovery In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cF9M699ma4MltKy78aMMmA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rMyppWesfGw9wqylo+EeJEGRwbNncnigrjGVgg6iE3Yc/OIGm7O05Kxo1Ncw5bJoV3IBEJaxse58z+pMW/dEe1spzZt/ircZJoiL2xDaqhmHD8cIkLFYff/LtjY+NSij9WdTa4iE/3dYPOaFwEBojTPLvcT9c/zdzh5M91/0tzo= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_cF9M699ma4MltKy78aMMmA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That's very nice idea!!! but the original level modulation recovery problem remains untouched. 2006/8/4, jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>: > > not to prolong the issue after you have come to your > own conclusions but...you could play the mono file > into a room and record it with stereo microphones. > results will be variable of course but you may get a > feeling from it you might like in the end, who knows > until you try...jg > > --- Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > thanks for the feedback. well, about the mono to > > estereo conversion, I > > agree, it is not worth the work and will sound fake. > > > > but about the level variation recovery, my intent is > > to recover the > > _original_ modulations. I belive that there is some > > chance in existing some > > kind of "fingerprint" of the live performance. If > > there really is such a > > fingerprint, would it be possible to recover it? I > > guess yes. What I cant > > see is a way to do it that not using years of > > research and makind a > > dedicated module... > > > > 2006/8/3, Jan L. <xxx@xxxxxx.xx>: > > > > > > > > > This sounds more like AGC than compression. Try > > riding the gain by > > > hand. But any solution will probably just be more > > distracting than > > > the original. Same with sgtereo, there are ways to > > make a mono signal > > > artificially spread across stereo width. But do > > you relly want to > > > listen to sound effects and not the music? Most > > record companies > > > release mono ecordings in mono and there is a > > reason for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 aug 2006 kl. 03.22 skrev Renato Fabbri: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > There is a piano concert recorded with a sony > > camera, CCD-TR317, > > > > and I am > > > > interested just in recovering the original level > > range (or > > > > something near > > > > it) and expression, but the audio file is very > > very compressed, and > > > > using > > > > expansors (like waves reinassence) is not > > bringing me any good > > > > advances. > > > > > > > > Another thing. It is a mono sound file. I´ve > > read about some ways > > > > of getting > > > > a stereo sound file from a mono one, but has > > never done it. Can > > > > anyone point > > > > a good method? > > > > > > > > I run Windows and Linux, both with manny of the > > most used programs, > > > > cubase, > > > > ardour, sound forge, PD, various pluigins etc. > > > > > > > > btw, I uploaded 2m of Liszt´s piano sonata in > > Bm, played on the > > > > concert we > > > > are talking about for anyone interested. It is > > in 44.1KHz, 16bit, > > > > about > > > > 10Mb: > > > > > > > > http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/~renato/stuff/ > > > > > > > pianoconcert2m.zip<http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/%7Erenato/stuff/ > > > > pianoconcert2m.zip> > > > > > > > > all the best to everyone > > > > ref > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > > > > > j.ff gbk > > http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ > > http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html > > http://www.djalma.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Sat Aug 5 19:33:40 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39869-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34549 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:33:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 34539 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:33:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:32:09 +0200 From: Tobias Reber <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:[microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <C0FABED9.3F99%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mel, Check out all of Jeff Noon's work, right away. also the interviews and texts on jeffnoon.com (updated about once a year but some useful stuff there) might make a godd introduction. He works by remixing language in the way we musicians rework/treat music. Especially DJ-like style in "needle in the groove", which also is about music as a liquid medium (recorded on a liquid medium, remixes are made by shaking it etc...). Very very much recommended (i've read all his books at least twice). He has also worked with David Toop. Chuck Palahniuk's "Lullaby" also comes to mind. It's about a children's song that kills the people who hear it. A guy finds this out (his wife and baby have died) and begins a journey across the US to try to destroy all remaining editions of the book in which it was published. It's also very much about the noise of (media) society. This is a subject that I'm very much into, please let me know your further findings! Tobias Am 5.8.2006 18:34 Uhr schrieb "mel ducasse" unter <xxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx>: > Howdy, > While we're on the topic of reading lists, can anyone suggest some > novels or short stories, where the authors have written about sound in > an imaginative or speculative way? > Thanks, > M > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 5 18:18:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39868-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10020 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:18:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 10009 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:18:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:12:23 +0200 From: rinus van alebeek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Pqo1aqO9vX4ZriUtqcIgcg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I40MnadMrsnPSuXZPfZmRRzPnw2O0Ouw8oIf+G/fZkSDeEWRNYl/9UKtPQ6L3xcE+7GBHtWa/4RcJSvkmTWyYhnhq0RgEoESIlK57kdia344aXMfrnLf0W9cXig+ki01dPtd5EQJcLiI7KDjBMnnC70BkKeXtWpSe0QWhi9xJgQ= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_Pqo1aqO9vX4ZriUtqcIgcg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit berlin alexanderplatz by alfred döblin, Some sequences he might never have written when he could have used a recording device; that's how parts of this book 'sound' like. greetings to you all, rinus -- activities, releases, downloads http://emc.yserv.com/103 In Berlin http://no-bf.blogspot.com/ salon bruit in berlin http://salonbruit.blogspot.com --Boundary_(ID_Pqo1aqO9vX4ZriUtqcIgcg)-- From ???@??? Sat Aug 5 16:53:17 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39867-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84683 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:53:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 84673 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:53:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:52:53 +0100 From: Demidelirium <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] novels with sound In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx mel ducasse wrote: > Howdy, > While we're on the topic of reading lists, can anyone suggest some > novels or short stories, where the authors have written about sound in > an imaginative or speculative way? nathaniel mackey's 'bedouin hornbook' ( From a Broken Bottle Traces of Perfume Still Emanate) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 5 16:34:23 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39866-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78403 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:34:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 78389 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:34:13 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:34:13 +0200 From: mel ducasse <xxx_xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] novels with sound To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Howdy, While we're on the topic of reading lists, can anyone suggest some novels or short stories, where the authors have written about sound in an imaginative or speculative way? Thanks, M --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Aug 5 01:28:50 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39865-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6885 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:28:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 6874 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:28:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:28:31 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx NI's komplete is a great deal too, i think. worth every penny. On 4-Aug-06, at 6:09 PM, David Powers wrote: > Which is why so much software gets stolen, because even a lot of > people who > make their living doing music (at least the ones I know), can't > afford those > kind of prices... Even software I've bought, turns out to be too > expensive > to keep up with the overpriced upgrades. > > *Two exceptions to this that are NOT overpriced, in my opinion, are > Plogue > Bidule, and Audiomulch. Much love to those developers making > software that > working people, including working musicians, can afford. > > These days, I have tried to get away from overpriced (or stolen) > stuff and > stick with all the excellent free software that is available, as > much as I > can. I hope especially to see Pure Data keep developing to be able > to do > more and more things that were once the domain of expensive commercial > programs. > > ~David > > On 8/4/06, Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> no I meant that 99 percent of pro level software is that price. go >> into >> any pro recording studio and you will see that 500 is the starting >> price >> for pro apps. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 22:13:58 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39864-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34994 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:13:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 34983 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:13:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:14:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey dude your preaching to the converted... On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, David Powers wrote: > Which is why so much software gets stolen, because even a lot of people who > make their living doing music (at least the ones I know), can't afford those > kind of prices... Even software I've bought, turns out to be too expensive > to keep up with the overpriced upgrades. > > *Two exceptions to this that are NOT overpriced, in my opinion, are Plogue > Bidule, and Audiomulch. Much love to those developers making software that > working people, including working musicians, can afford. > > These days, I have tried to get away from overpriced (or stolen) stuff and > stick with all the excellent free software that is available, as much as I > can. I hope especially to see Pure Data keep developing to be able to do > more and more things that were once the domain of expensive commercial > programs. > > ~David > > On 8/4/06, Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> no I meant that 99 percent of pro level software is that price. go into >> any pro recording studio and you will see that 500 is the starting price >> for pro apps. >> >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: >> >> > >> > On 2006 Aug 04, at 2:20 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 999 percent of all software apps are 500 bucks >> > >> > >> > Does this mean that 99.9% of all software is $50? >> > >> > >> > Rod >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Now playing: Tod Dockstader - Clocking >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > http://stasick.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> > website: http://www.microsound.org >> > >> > >> >> ============================ >> www.phoniq.net >> releases available on: >> www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> publication: >> www.vagueterrain.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 22:09:44 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39863-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31645 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:09:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 31631 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:09:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:09:30 -0500 From: David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_iXvf92MQC/o9P7Lu79Z4rg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=avuv4aE9NHIuSCv/WHmwru2XOc/dpaIELiQ4rzj7RmYtobi22YYp0SNxPl66S8CoyK5RlNP3/k3EuSd7n4u6aXgY4nmzbcU8MEqG970mXCLs9A/e9XstAJJTXHiVdvt+nT7TvVk41rIOVlRPYIgLNSHSSNif4KHup1J9aRyIWCw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_iXvf92MQC/o9P7Lu79Z4rg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Which is why so much software gets stolen, because even a lot of people who make their living doing music (at least the ones I know), can't afford those kind of prices... Even software I've bought, turns out to be too expensive to keep up with the overpriced upgrades. *Two exceptions to this that are NOT overpriced, in my opinion, are Plogue Bidule, and Audiomulch. Much love to those developers making software that working people, including working musicians, can afford. These days, I have tried to get away from overpriced (or stolen) stuff and stick with all the excellent free software that is available, as much as I can. I hope especially to see Pure Data keep developing to be able to do more and more things that were once the domain of expensive commercial programs. ~David On 8/4/06, Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > > no I meant that 99 percent of pro level software is that price. go into > any pro recording studio and you will see that 500 is the starting price > for pro apps. > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: > > > > > On 2006 Aug 04, at 2:20 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> 999 percent of all software apps are 500 bucks > > > > > > Does this mean that 99.9% of all software is $50? > > > > > > Rod > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Now playing: Tod Dockstader - Clocking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://stasick.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > ============================ > www.phoniq.net > releases available on: > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > publication: > www.vagueterrain.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_iXvf92MQC/o9P7Lu79Z4rg)-- From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 21:36:45 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39862-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19674 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:36:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 19662 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:36:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:37:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx no I meant that 99 percent of pro level software is that price. go into any pro recording studio and you will see that 500 is the starting price for pro apps. On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Rod Stasick wrote: > > On 2006 Aug 04, at 2:20 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > >> >> >> 999 percent of all software apps are 500 bucks > > > Does this mean that 99.9% of all software is $50? > > > Rod > > > > > > > --- > Now playing: Tod Dockstader - Clocking > > > > > > > > http://stasick.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 21:26:19 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39861-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13957 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:26:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 13937 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:26:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:25:52 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 2006 Aug 04, at 2:20 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > 999 percent of all software apps are 500 bucks Does this mean that 99.9% of all software is $50? Rod --- Now playing: Tod Dockstader - Clocking http://stasick.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 20:53:09 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39860-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97637 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:52:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 97626 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:52:59 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:52:54 +0200 From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: 81.224.200.117 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx they often have offers for users of their other software. i paid 300 dollars for my metasynth pro. metasynth cost, but it also sound very good. /jan.l 4 aug 2006 kl. 19.53 skrev Graham Miller: > the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? > > g. > > On 4-Aug-06, at 1:49 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > >> >> >> hey mike, >> >> it can make sound from jpegs and it is well worth the money there >> is nothing else that I know of that works as well as meta synth >> for os x... >> its a really creative tool and you can do a lot with it. Ive >> synthasised every thing from lead to bass to drum sounds with it. >> scannner used it to for one of his records and Im sure many other >> people use it.... >> they even developed a sequencer to sequence the images to sound >> with to write patterns with... also possibly worth the money >> depending on how you want to use the app. >> >> neil >> aka naw ============================ >> www.phoniq.net >> releases available on: >> www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> publication: >> www.vagueterrain.net >> >> >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, MIKE HANSON wrote: >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. >>> >>> I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce >>> sound. I also been lead to believe that it will create sound from >>> jpegs. >>> >>> Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? >>> >>> or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX >>> >>> thanks >>> Mike Hansen >>> >>> www.mike-hansen.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 20:39:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39858-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88619 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:39:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 88608 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:39:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicolas Fournel <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WL3Vu/ZrFOZRSy5iW2ewPJ5dLv7bGl/lpFwQJb8jAFiwcWUj1GPflwTgQLOxHn64HAPpdIecLaBJW8aSpOxlIzT0Uhc4xgohqDFsYC9FVIkzw3BbrgWdSYijXomeBlO+JXcOJzZ9caWnbf52KUqEiZ1M7hTKmN+y79RhaAW2oEo= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx If you are on Windows, I have a free applet that converts pictures into sounds on my web site. It's called AudioPaint and it's at www.nicolasfournel.com. There is also some other stuff to make music with virtual gloves, graphic tablets etc... Nico --- shift8 <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > you guys may also be interested in the > [pix_pix2sig~] object in the Gem > external for pure data. processes an image to > signals for each of r g b > and a. > > On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:27 +0000, MIKE HANSON > wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Does any one know anything about this program. > Meta Synth 4 pro. > > > > I have heard good things about it's use of > graphics to produce sound. I also > > been lead to believe that it will create sound > from jpegs. > > > > Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > > > or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > > > thanks > > Mike Hansen > > > > www.mike-hansen.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > -- > Mechanize something idiosyncratic. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 20:42:14 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39859-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91477 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:41:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 91440 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:41:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:21:09 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i paid $19.99 CAN for alien vs predator 2. that must be in the 001% you're talkin' about:) g. On 4-Aug-06, at 3:20 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > 999 percent of all software apps are 500 bucks > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Graham Miller wrote: > >> the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? >> >> g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 20:11:44 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39857-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72876 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:11:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 72865 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:11:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:13:36 -0700 From: shift8 <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.x.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx you guys may also be interested in the [pix_pix2sig~] object in the Gem external for pure data. processes an image to signals for each of r g b and a. On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:27 +0000, MIKE HANSON wrote: > Hi All > > Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > > I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce sound. I also > been lead to believe that it will create sound from jpegs. > > Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > thanks > Mike Hansen > > www.mike-hansen.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- Mechanize something idiosyncratic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 19:23:16 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39856-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45613 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:23:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 45602 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:23:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:22:57 -0500 From: Rod Stasick <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I remembered a nice MacAddict review a while back, so I looked it up: http://www.macaddict.com/issues/2005/7/reviews/metasynth Rod --- Now playing: Vandermark 5 - Gyllene RANDOM RODIO: (often) rodcasting at: http://rodcast.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u "you won't like all of it" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 19:20:12 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39855-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42756 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:19:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 42746 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:19:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 999 percent of all software apps are 500 bucks On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Graham Miller wrote: > the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? > > g. > > On 4-Aug-06, at 1:49 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > >> >> >> hey mike, >> >> it can make sound from jpegs and it is well worth the money there is >> nothing else that I know of that works as well as meta synth for os x... >> its a really creative tool and you can do a lot with it. Ive synthasised >> every thing from lead to bass to drum sounds with it. >> scannner used it to for one of his records and Im sure many other people >> use it.... >> they even developed a sequencer to sequence the images to sound with to >> write patterns with... also possibly worth the money depending on how you >> want to use the app. >> >> neil >> aka naw ============================ >> www.phoniq.net >> releases available on: >> www.noisefactoryrecords.com >> publication: >> www.vagueterrain.net >> >> >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, MIKE HANSON wrote: >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. >>> >>> I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce sound. I >>> also been lead to believe that it will create sound from jpegs. >>> >>> Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? >>> >>> or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX >>> >>> thanks >>> Mike Hansen >>> >>> www.mike-hansen.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 18:48:11 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39854-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21463 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:47:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 21453 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:47:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:47:48 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-DCC--Metrics: ss73.shared.server-system.net 1367; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Meta Synth has been critized many time for their price. It is steep. I haven't used their demo in a long long time, but I think it doesn't allow to save. However recording the audio output into another app should be very easy to do. cheers, Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 347.225.1058 > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:54 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 > > > the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? > > g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 18:44:57 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39853-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18324 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:44:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 18309 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:44:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:44:32 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-DCC--Metrics: ss73.shared.server-system.net 1367; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Soundhack has been freeware for a few years now. It make quicktime movies from an audio file spectrogram. It can also do the opposite: translate a quicktime movie to audio. Turning any picture into quicktime is trivial. This is a fantastic way to compose sounds. http://soundhack.com/ Besides all the coolness that David mentions below. Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 347.225.1058 > -----Original Message----- > From: David Powers [mailto:xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:35 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 > > > For PC's, I just discovered the program Coagula last night - > it's free and > quite nice: > http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Coagula.htm > Perhaps not as full-featured as Metasynth, but definitely > makes some nice > sounds. > > If you are on a Mac don't want to spend $500, you might be > interested in > some of the software listed on this page: > http://aliasfrequencies.org/son/text/granular.html > > These two look promising for image processing (I'm not on a > Mac so others > will have to chime in if they've used them): > > *Phonogramme* > Shareware for Mac and PC > http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/~vi/phonogramme/phonogramme.html< http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/%> 7Evi/phonogramme/phonogramme.html> > > The PC version is called Phonogramme Svelte. Basically it > takes a bitmapped > image and turns it into a soundfile. Applying this to a > 'normal' picture > usually results in harsh noise, but painting pictures with > sparse patterns > can create interesting new sounds. > > The Mac version has many more options, including MIDI, for > controlling the > output of the program. Be warned that the website, program > and documentation > are all in French. > > *Soundhack* > Shareware for Mac > http://shoko.calarts.edu/~tre/SndHckDoc/<http://shoko.calarts. > edu/%7Etre/SndHckDoc/> > > It's getting a bit long in the tooth now, but throughout the > 90's Soundhack > has been regarded as one of the coolest pieces of audio > software around. It > was created by CalArts computer music guru Tom Erbe. Although it's > shareware, all you have to do to register is send Tom some of > your music. > > Much of Soundhack's processing power is based on a fast > fourier transform > technique, called phase vocoding, which can result in unusual > types of time > stretching and pitch shifting. The program can perform many > other esoteric > transformations, such as spectral mutation and soundfile > convolution, as > well as binaural filtering, for 3D sound from stereo speakers. > > It also reads and writes just about any file format, making > it a very handy > utility. > ~David > > On 8/4/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > > the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? > > > > g. > > > > On 4-Aug-06, at 1:49 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hey mike, > > > > > > it can make sound from jpegs and it is well worth the money there > > > is nothing else that I know of that works as well as meta > synth for > > > os x... > > > its a really creative tool and you can do a lot with it. Ive > > > synthasised every thing from lead to bass to drum sounds with it. > > > scannner used it to for one of his records and Im sure many other > > > people use it.... > > > they even developed a sequencer to sequence the images to sound > > > with to write patterns with... also possibly worth the money > > > depending on how you want to use the app. > > > > > > neil > > > aka naw ============================ > > > www.phoniq.net > > > releases available on: > > > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > > > publication: > > > www.vagueterrain.net > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, MIKE HANSON wrote: > > > > > >> Hi All > > >> > > >> Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > > >> > > >> I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce > > >> sound. I also been lead to believe that it will create sound from > > >> jpegs. > > >> > > >> Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > >> > > >> or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > >> > > >> thanks > > >> Mike Hansen > > >> > > >> www.mike-hansen.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 18:35:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39852-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10514 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:35:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 10480 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:35:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:35:14 -0500 From: David Powers <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_60zeQqvnMmCV79w2FHHTJQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=A0uXTPXmFfEDIYahb0SmJUn5U1oh2vcndvD8bxTfkneA+9zcHBM/ADT8hiNWChmgR53ZfEaKWe3kh0cc8TUI7tcaaY91C5xyWad/IXEsQ3Faz+62OKtko9W+JRlTMoZSA0Fv2L+fY6UD7rvvohxgtWz6VCa3nxz9Wh8UZHHE++8= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_60zeQqvnMmCV79w2FHHTJQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For PC's, I just discovered the program Coagula last night - it's free and quite nice: http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Coagula.htm Perhaps not as full-featured as Metasynth, but definitely makes some nice sounds. If you are on a Mac don't want to spend $500, you might be interested in some of the software listed on this page: http://aliasfrequencies.org/son/text/granular.html These two look promising for image processing (I'm not on a Mac so others will have to chime in if they've used them): *Phonogramme* Shareware for Mac and PC http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/~vi/phonogramme/phonogramme.html<http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/%7Evi/phonogramme/phonogramme.html> The PC version is called Phonogramme Svelte. Basically it takes a bitmapped image and turns it into a soundfile. Applying this to a 'normal' picture usually results in harsh noise, but painting pictures with sparse patterns can create interesting new sounds. The Mac version has many more options, including MIDI, for controlling the output of the program. Be warned that the website, program and documentation are all in French. *Soundhack* Shareware for Mac http://shoko.calarts.edu/~tre/SndHckDoc/<http://shoko.calarts.edu/%7Etre/SndHckDoc/> It's getting a bit long in the tooth now, but throughout the 90's Soundhack has been regarded as one of the coolest pieces of audio software around. It was created by CalArts computer music guru Tom Erbe. Although it's shareware, all you have to do to register is send Tom some of your music. Much of Soundhack's processing power is based on a fast fourier transform technique, called phase vocoding, which can result in unusual types of time stretching and pitch shifting. The program can perform many other esoteric transformations, such as spectral mutation and soundfile convolution, as well as binaural filtering, for 3D sound from stereo speakers. It also reads and writes just about any file format, making it a very handy utility. ~David On 8/4/06, Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? > > g. > > On 4-Aug-06, at 1:49 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > > > > > hey mike, > > > > it can make sound from jpegs and it is well worth the money there > > is nothing else that I know of that works as well as meta synth for > > os x... > > its a really creative tool and you can do a lot with it. Ive > > synthasised every thing from lead to bass to drum sounds with it. > > scannner used it to for one of his records and Im sure many other > > people use it.... > > they even developed a sequencer to sequence the images to sound > > with to write patterns with... also possibly worth the money > > depending on how you want to use the app. > > > > neil > > aka naw ============================ > > www.phoniq.net > > releases available on: > > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > > publication: > > www.vagueterrain.net > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, MIKE HANSON wrote: > > > >> Hi All > >> > >> Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > >> > >> I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce > >> sound. I also been lead to believe that it will create sound from > >> jpegs. > >> > >> Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > >> > >> or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > >> > >> thanks > >> Mike Hansen > >> > >> www.mike-hansen.com > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> website: http://www.microsound.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_60zeQqvnMmCV79w2FHHTJQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 18:10:39 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39850-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93357 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:10:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 93347 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:10:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:10:25 -0500 From: Kevin McCoy <xx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxx.x.xxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ynr5JRFN70HqVt1LxeyU+Q7pcjTb/diQROKA+hz5eRBJBUvyNxkKk6BqiwtY0we3olw2TPStEaoc8iMo68V6RTGu0X9m3xYxxBlmLcS9A/O3I0PqNm/NXNTxJv7tXR5/KPoOFSUMNJNpnO8t3ilGuMi0kh+ywLZxKQoBWZp6SlY= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx.x.xxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes, that (Processing+Pd) is one way of doing it which will probably be more involved and take time to learn but would be well worth it if you have the time. Since images don't have an inherent "sound" to them (it's what you do with the data you get from them, which can be taken in theoretically infinite directions) Processing and any sound program (Pd, Max, supercollider) that can take data inputs could be configured for zero cost if you're interested, and you'll have a lot more control, but there is the relatively steep learning curve that comes with that... IMHO, it can be really advantageous to have that degree of control. If you just want to experiment and get some sounds out quickly and work with them at a higher up level in a good environment, MetaSynth is probably the way to go and seems to have very good reviews. If you ever want to get deeper into it (Ryoji Ikeda's album dataplex is a good example of one way to generate sound from data) there are many wonderful free ways to give it a go. Kevin On 8/4/06, xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I dont know anything about Meta Synth 4 but you can use Processing to do > this. It is a java based open source programming environment - You can use > either the Sonia or Ess libraries for sound processing, found in the > reference section of the site. > > http://processing.org/ > > Casey Reas, one of the Processing's creators, I believe is working on > audio components to his work that is generated : http://www.groupc.net/ > > Kevin McCoy and I are undertaking both visually generated sound pieces and > visuals generated from sound using FFT analysis. We should have results > worth sharing in a few weeks and will post them on the web when they are > ready. You can use Osc ( and I think netjack too) to work between Pd and > Processing for live performance. Using the two programs in tandem can make > it much easier to get better results in each program when you are starting > out. > > Kevin may have more say about this.... > > > greg > > > > > > Hi All > > > > Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > > > > I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce sound. I > > also > > been lead to believe that it will create sound from jpegs. > > > > Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > > > or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > > > thanks > > Mike Hansen > > > > www.mike-hansen.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > -- "[D]aily life [is] a theatrical landscape in which 'everyone has their price,' God (via televangelism) and happiness (smile buttons) become commodities, radio stations say they love you, and detergents have compassion for your hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 17:57:47 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39849-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.102]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta31.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82352 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:57:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 82341 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:57:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:57:24 +0200 From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 81.224.200.117 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I've never used it just to convert jpegs to sound. I usually know what I want and Metasynth allows me to draw it (unfortunately it does not support a wacom board). With careful setup you can get very dense klangs that other software, except maybe supercollider, cannot reproduce. /Jan L. 4 aug 2006 kl. 19.27 skrev MIKE HANSON: > Hi All > > Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > > I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce > sound. I also been lead to believe that it will create sound from > jpegs. > > Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > thanks > Mike Hansen > > www.mike-hansen.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 18:21:43 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39851-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 795 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:21:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 785 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:21:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:53:32 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx the price seems a bit steep... 500 bucks? g. On 4-Aug-06, at 1:49 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote: > > > hey mike, > > it can make sound from jpegs and it is well worth the money there > is nothing else that I know of that works as well as meta synth for > os x... > its a really creative tool and you can do a lot with it. Ive > synthasised every thing from lead to bass to drum sounds with it. > scannner used it to for one of his records and Im sure many other > people use it.... > they even developed a sequencer to sequence the images to sound > with to write patterns with... also possibly worth the money > depending on how you want to use the app. > > neil > aka naw ============================ > www.phoniq.net > releases available on: > www.noisefactoryrecords.com > publication: > www.vagueterrain.net > > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, MIKE HANSON wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. >> >> I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce >> sound. I also been lead to believe that it will create sound from >> jpegs. >> >> Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? >> >> or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX >> >> thanks >> Mike Hansen >> >> www.mike-hansen.com >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 17:51:28 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39848-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78381 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:51:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 78369 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:51:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:51:12 -0500 (CDT) From: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.x.xxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-UOS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UOS-MailScanner-From: xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5-1 Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I dont know anything about Meta Synth 4 but you can use Processing to do this. It is a java based open source programming environment - You can use either the Sonia or Ess libraries for sound processing, found in the reference section of the site. http://processing.org/ Casey Reas, one of the Processing's creators, I believe is working on audio components to his work that is generated : http://www.groupc.net/ Kevin McCoy and I are undertaking both visually generated sound pieces and visuals generated from sound using FFT analysis. We should have results worth sharing in a few weeks and will post them on the web when they are ready. You can use Osc ( and I think netjack too) to work between Pd and Processing for live performance. Using the two programs in tandem can make it much easier to get better results in each program when you are starting out. Kevin may have more say about this.... greg > Hi All > > Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > > I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce sound. I > also > been lead to believe that it will create sound from jpegs. > > Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > thanks > Mike Hansen > > www.mike-hansen.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 17:49:19 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39847-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76165 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:49:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 76149 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:49:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:49:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 In-reply-to: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey mike, it can make sound from jpegs and it is well worth the money there is nothing else that I know of that works as well as meta synth for os x... its a really creative tool and you can do a lot with it. Ive synthasised every thing from lead to bass to drum sounds with it. scannner used it to for one of his records and Im sure many other people use it.... they even developed a sequencer to sequence the images to sound with to write patterns with... also possibly worth the money depending on how you want to use the app. neil aka naw ============================ www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, MIKE HANSON wrote: > Hi All > > Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. > > I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce sound. I also > been lead to believe that it will create sound from jpegs. > > Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? > > or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX > > thanks > Mike Hansen > > www.mike-hansen.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 17:28:13 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39846-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.100]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63592 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:28:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 63579 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:28:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:27:58 +0000 From: MIKE HANSON <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Meta Synth pro 4 X-Originating-IP: [70.51.143.154] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2006 17:28:01.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[5603B940:01C6B7EB] Hi All Does any one know anything about this program. Meta Synth 4 pro. I have heard good things about it's use of graphics to produce sound. I also been lead to believe that it will create sound from jpegs. Do any of you use it and is it worth the money?? or is there a cheaper substitute for OSX thanks Mike Hansen www.mike-hansen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Aug 4 10:49:46 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39845-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45244 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:49:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 45232 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:49:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: objet petit a In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=u2eRg3fqYUqcX6sCnjWkFYfQgFkDfmnaX1m08yIfiwiUvpDdChOP/J7c+O16jJBrFaxLytrXDFaeQp0TkC2VKAi8iUURPBg+jqEQFiuF8jyR1HkYk4pbVuFmUs0+qJ01+Z/Qm56eb2W8SMBSy/gnhocrM+px21VYq+EETsO+3VU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx innocence is but not possible and the fall feigns mnemo interposed error und every word the killer james/lacan blake's recovery program taking applications --- tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > i think lacan also wrote/said ".. the real is the > effect of the symbolic of the imaginary".. > > play with the 'text'.. reveal the desire of the > sound... its 'drive' (not always obvious), its > remnants... as cultural artifact (i suggest)... as > an effect of will/history to symbolize... j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Fri Aug 4 10:48:37 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39844-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44190 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:48:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 44171 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:48:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff gburek <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Level Compression Recovery In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=u0Bv0NobtwU+XWUTrN9x1W8i94pERfNbwzXkYfPxp6JKGj1HZXorIMUEfaQ8kA5Wb2JKwJNl8JcaNnb4G5rN+khJ+6vXa+Qo1Y7YKsU2jxiZUokvOf9JeDmMgNWhzf5hvQmrSkVUmF8f+d8S5vWoymVBSbQYwKtg0aYqilNkfOU= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx not to prolong the issue after you have come to your own conclusions but...you could play the mono file into a room and record it with stereo microphones. results will be variable of course but you may get a feeling from it you might like in the end, who knows until you try...jg --- Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > thanks for the feedback. well, about the mono to > estereo conversion, I > agree, it is not worth the work and will sound fake. > > but about the level variation recovery, my intent is > to recover the > _original_ modulations. I belive that there is some > chance in existing some > kind of "fingerprint" of the live performance. If > there really is such a > fingerprint, would it be possible to recover it? I > guess yes. What I cant > see is a way to do it that not using years of > research and makind a > dedicated module... > > 2006/8/3, Jan L. <xxx@xxxxxx.xx>: > > > > > > This sounds more like AGC than compression. Try > riding the gain by > > hand. But any solution will probably just be more > distracting than > > the original. Same with sgtereo, there are ways to > make a mono signal > > artificially spread across stereo width. But do > you relly want to > > listen to sound effects and not the music? Most > record companies > > release mono ecordings in mono and there is a > reason for this. > > > > > > > > 3 aug 2006 kl. 03.22 skrev Renato Fabbri: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > There is a piano concert recorded with a sony > camera, CCD-TR317, > > > and I am > > > interested just in recovering the original level > range (or > > > something near > > > it) and expression, but the audio file is very > very compressed, and > > > using > > > expansors (like waves reinassence) is not > bringing me any good > > > advances. > > > > > > Another thing. It is a mono sound file. I´ve > read about some ways > > > of getting > > > a stereo sound file from a mono one, but has > never done it. Can > > > anyone point > > > a good method? > > > > > > I run Windows and Linux, both with manny of the > most used programs, > > > cubase, > > > ardour, sound forge, PD, various pluigins etc. > > > > > > btw, I uploaded 2m of Liszt´s piano sonata in > Bm, played on the > > > concert we > > > are talking about for anyone interested. It is > in 44.1KHz, 16bit, > > > about > > > 10Mb: > > > > > > http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/~renato/stuff/ > > > > pianoconcert2m.zip<http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/%7Erenato/stuff/ > > > pianoconcert2m.zip> > > > > > > all the best to everyone > > > ref > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > j.ff gbk http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/ http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html http://www.djalma.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Thu Aug 3 23:59:59 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39843-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.104]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta32.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78690 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:59:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 78677 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:59:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:59:46 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Level Compression Recovery In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CCNcnZO3ZG683Bldia19Vg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KI15eng/Wt6XB8xXHTbPMMbiemnQqaITsCQO2vXIVcWgAgv0IK1GM2U/VjXwmEhWwRBzcsXoi9dy/853ngCgiOIa37GcHJQRL3U8sO/+WApMdoQecoG7W2cNMhqZzZFiFj6x9lfGsz7aZ62iRE3bEwwKxuGyB54j9eVau1nwFMg= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_CCNcnZO3ZG683Bldia19Vg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks for the feedback. well, about the mono to estereo conversion, I agree, it is not worth the work and will sound fake. but about the level variation recovery, my intent is to recover the _original_ modulations. I belive that there is some chance in existing some kind of "fingerprint" of the live performance. If there really is such a fingerprint, would it be possible to recover it? I guess yes. What I cant see is a way to do it that not using years of research and makind a dedicated module... 2006/8/3, Jan L. <xxx@xxxxxx.xx>: > > > This sounds more like AGC than compression. Try riding the gain by > hand. But any solution will probably just be more distracting than > the original. Same with sgtereo, there are ways to make a mono signal > artificially spread across stereo width. But do you relly want to > listen to sound effects and not the music? Most record companies > release mono ecordings in mono and there is a reason for this. > > > > 3 aug 2006 kl. 03.22 skrev Renato Fabbri: > > > Hi, > > > > There is a piano concert recorded with a sony camera, CCD-TR317, > > and I am > > interested just in recovering the original level range (or > > something near > > it) and expression, but the audio file is very very compressed, and > > using > > expansors (like waves reinassence) is not bringing me any good > > advances. > > > > Another thing. It is a mono sound file. I´ve read about some ways > > of getting > > a stereo sound file from a mono one, but has never done it. Can > > anyone point > > a good method? > > > > I run Windows and Linux, both with manny of the most used programs, > > cubase, > > ardour, sound forge, PD, various pluigins etc. > > > > btw, I uploaded 2m of Liszt´s piano sonata in Bm, played on the > > concert we > > are talking about for anyone interested. It is in 44.1KHz, 16bit, > > about > > 10Mb: > > > > http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/~renato/stuff/ > > pianoconcert2m.zip<http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/%7Erenato/stuff/ > > pianoconcert2m.zip> > > > > all the best to everyone > > ref > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_CCNcnZO3ZG683Bldia19Vg)-- From ???@??? 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Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. --Boundary_(ID_pcXmjzrsYcXhXi4XJRWBTA)-- From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 17:04:20 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39841-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.101]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta30.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1081 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:04:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 1070 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:04:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:01:34 -0400 From: Michael North <xxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: RE: [microsound] qsound? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001701c6b71e$79b7ac20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would suggest checking out the ambisonics site(s) http://ambisonic.net for info on various surround technologies, stereo widening etc...plus links to various pd/max patches, vst plugins, ambisonic recordings for download etc etc...also discussions on 5.1/7.1 sound etc //*-----Original Message----- //*From: Graham Miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] //*Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:59 AM //*To: microsound //*Subject: Re: [microsound] qsound? //* //*i read that many albums were mixed using this process in the early //*90s, including michael jackson's dangerous (which, despite the //*content, has a some fairly amazing fidelity). it struck me as odd //*that such a mainstream project would make such an interesting attempt //*at using new kinds of technologically induced psychoacoustic effects. //*has anyone used this on more experimental work? or has this process //*been replaced with more sophisticated algorithms and processes? //* //*thanks! //* //*g. //* //* //*On 3-Aug-06, at 2:39 AM, Jan L. wrote: //* //*> //*> They once had plugins for protools which I used for a short time. //*> If you can accept a bit of phaseyness, reduced mono compatibility //*> and that the listener has to sit exactly between the speakers it //*> kind of works to a degree. //*> //*> //*> //*> //*> 3 aug 2006 kl. 04.34 skrev Graham Miller: //*> //*>> anyone know anything about this company or this process? i'm //*>> interested. //*>> //*>> http://www.qsound.com/2002/ //*>> //*>> g. //*>> //*>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- //*>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*>> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*>> website: http://www.microsound.org //*>> //*>> //*> //*> //*> --------------------------------------------------------------------- //*> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*> website: http://www.microsound.org //* //* //*--------------------------------------------------------------------- //*To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx //*website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 16:30:45 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39840-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79548 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:30:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 79534 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:30:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:58:52 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] qsound? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i read that many albums were mixed using this process in the early 90s, including michael jackson's dangerous (which, despite the content, has a some fairly amazing fidelity). it struck me as odd that such a mainstream project would make such an interesting attempt at using new kinds of technologically induced psychoacoustic effects. has anyone used this on more experimental work? or has this process been replaced with more sophisticated algorithms and processes? thanks! g. On 3-Aug-06, at 2:39 AM, Jan L. wrote: > > They once had plugins for protools which I used for a short time. > If you can accept a bit of phaseyness, reduced mono compatibility > and that the listener has to sit exactly between the speakers it > kind of works to a degree. > > > > > 3 aug 2006 kl. 04.34 skrev Graham Miller: > >> anyone know anything about this company or this process? i'm >> interested. >> >> http://www.qsound.com/2002/ >> >> g. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 06:40:17 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39839-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6041 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:39:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 6026 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:39:56 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:39:52 +0200 From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] qsound? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-Originating-IP: 81.224.200.117 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx They once had plugins for protools which I used for a short time. If you can accept a bit of phaseyness, reduced mono compatibility and that the listener has to sit exactly between the speakers it kind of works to a degree. 3 aug 2006 kl. 04.34 skrev Graham Miller: > anyone know anything about this company or this process? i'm > interested. > > http://www.qsound.com/2002/ > > g. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 06:33:02 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39838-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3840 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:32:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 3829 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:32:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:32:48 +0200 From: "Jan L." <xxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Level Compression Recovery In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 81.224.200.117 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This sounds more like AGC than compression. Try riding the gain by hand. But any solution will probably just be more distracting than the original. Same with sgtereo, there are ways to make a mono signal artificially spread across stereo width. But do you relly want to listen to sound effects and not the music? Most record companies release mono ecordings in mono and there is a reason for this. 3 aug 2006 kl. 03.22 skrev Renato Fabbri: > Hi, > > There is a piano concert recorded with a sony camera, CCD-TR317, > and I am > interested just in recovering the original level range (or > something near > it) and expression, but the audio file is very very compressed, and > using > expansors (like waves reinassence) is not bringing me any good > advances. > > Another thing. It is a mono sound file. I´ve read about some ways > of getting > a stereo sound file from a mono one, but has never done it. Can > anyone point > a good method? > > I run Windows and Linux, both with manny of the most used programs, > cubase, > ardour, sound forge, PD, various pluigins etc. > > btw, I uploaded 2m of Liszt´s piano sonata in Bm, played on the > concert we > are talking about for anyone interested. It is in 44.1KHz, 16bit, > about > 10Mb: > > http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/~renato/stuff/ > pianoconcert2m.zip<http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/%7Erenato/stuff/ > pianoconcert2m.zip> > > all the best to everyone > ref --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 06:07:45 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39837-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96531 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:07:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 96517 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:07:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lasell <x_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Post-digital photography In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_T2NRL4o2znD/VdyJqi8N5A)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fHg9oNuYQwKj+Dl+yjcI4ZCSF/kx3fRN8co5Mx4NGAn+TNoyDz/L+RvOXrRcI6gfFowx33o/P+45isrnEGjtRsZltA7sFioJXaZlBSuBZSqsmVN/Ky3Vs7T0GS/HpSyRHOD8wnjzxkY1FhtmZnaFL8CHnH98+AkhS8SUr9/Wzl4= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_T2NRL4o2znD/VdyJqi8N5A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I think according to the criteria you've cited, you're meeting some amorphous result of 'post digital photography', but I think youre not taking the idea far enough. My comments earlier were addressing the fact that your use of the software seemed derivative (the effects youre achieving are fairly easy to get in just about any photoeditor). Your source photographs, when visible, weren't necessarily compelling, and the unidentifiable ones were edging towards abstract expressionism. Both are valid approaches to the issue, but neither really addresses the nature of the glitch or malfunction in digital photography. Your process appears to be fairly linear (take picture, load in software, tweak settings, save as). Open that up. What about taking the camera apart? Is subject matter important? What happens if you rephotograph your onscreen image? As a viewer/consumer, Im left with very little to go on but your intellectual argument. The criteria you cite Kims articles and the others, which are excellent treatises on digital art. However, while I find the concepts facinating, I already think they are becoming dated. I want to know what you're thinking now. You accurately compare the glitch in digital music to digital photography, which is also a very valid observation. But like in digital music, if I can listen to something and trainspot the VST being used, then it loses something. In my opinion, the software should become transparent to the finished piece, and in turn, the concept. I like your ideas, and can see where you're going with it. I encourage you to continue, cant wait to see what comes next. P Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:47:25 +0000 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From: "Joseph Scott" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: Post-digital photography Message-ID: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> -------- I guess you're referring to the photos I offered examples – Photoshop wasn't used, neither were filters, but adjustments in contrast, resizing, etc. in other programmes were used. I consider adjusting the visual EQ to emphasise digital artefacts/noise beneath an image's surface to be equivalent to adjusting the audio EQ to expose the background artefacts/noise in an audio file. As far as I am aware, this is a common aesthetic in post-digital music, usually forming “a critique of the perceived perfection of digital audio in that it exposes the flaws and illusion of 'perfect reproduction'” (Kim Cascone, “Deleuze and Contemporary Electronic Music”). However, your remarks confuse me – surely software such as Photoshop exists to make digital photographs resemble film photographs, and so isn't using the same software to emphasis the differences between film and digital photos, or to create something else entirely, different to the approach of 'digital photography'? The example photographs are clearly the results of digital technology, but don't they question and only partially adhere to the ideology of 'digital photography'? And isn't this exactly what “The Aesthetics of Failure” and “Post-digital Aesthetics and the return to Modernism” by Ian Andrews (the two texts in which I encountered the term 'post-digital') discuss in relation to music? IF there are Photoshop filters in existence that emphasise the digital aspects of digital photos, does this not reflect a move away from (at least some of) the principles of 'digital photography' towards a post-digital approach, much like the advent of audio software that doesn't imitate analogue equipment? In case you're unsure of what I mean, I'm thinking of software that enables effects such as time-stretching, buffer-freezing, etc., but there are probably better examples out there. These aren't rhetorical questions: I'm genuinely unsure and interested in your opinion. I won't be offended if you aren't interested in answering and I thank you for already taking the time to respond once before. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. 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Thu Aug 3 04:17:15 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39836-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69435 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:17:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 69416 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:17:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: objet petit a In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YJHOkc+JzUfnMZgz8Bms0A)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=anKf2MSteqzJo2RSBS2/UKyW//m8q/pBhpelfeMNi4WWSAixbnesKVPeh5lhTyAtk8PiHOrwrahPbY/wrUAu8a0u6QuuyOLr0HCytd/B06e/r7eHw44Z0MfEDn23gYs6WMtlnXjMws5yW3NIdZm1+9cgfyPDWFAOR6shkVOl1K0= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_YJHOkc+JzUfnMZgz8Bms0A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i think lacan also wrote/said ".. the real is the effect of the symbolic of the imaginary".. play with the 'text'.. reveal the desire of the sound... its 'drive' (not always obvious), its remnants... as cultural artifact (i suggest)... as an effect of will/history to symbolize... soundbytes. "samples". ( re-sutured. extracted to the margin-point of recognition/reference... suspended/re-fragmented/re-arranged). not sure if Innoncence is possible (not sure what you mean by this?).. nor neccesarily desirable...(purity? --a wish beyond time/mortality? --fascism of the Super comes to my mind...).. though a space between the 'author' and the Work is possible.. such that the work speaks on its own terms (more or less), that is, in its own limits which is paradoxically a space that allows for the beyond... the trick.. or one of The key things.. (at least with Lacan).. was/is the Impossible... hey, thinking of the rupture point with the real... walter benjamin always comes to mind.. a kind of haunting or slippage between states occurs (archive project and idea of repitition/archive/juxtaposition/everday/event...).. where presenting the 'dead (recent, boring/taboo) past' in a certain way reveals its Real.. and hence re-skews or alienates, in an interesting way, the ongoing alienation of our present (as it is the same, on a certain level --eventually, a 'dead past', as the forgotten dead past of our childhoods, culturally -- from fads to forgotten histories, struggles, etc.)... allowing us to see.. to maybe perceive something of what is going on, in what we normally call, everday "reality"... -a "It is here that I propose that the interest the subject takes in his own split is bound up with that which determines it -- namely, a privileged object, which has emerged from some primal separation, from some self-mutilation induced by the approach of the real, whose name, in our algebra, is the /objet a/." -Jacques Lacan, _the Four Fundamental Concepts of Psycho-Analysis_ Difficulties of interpretation owing to his obscurantist tendencies aside, in Lacan's discourse there appears to be no Ultimate Reality knowable (if at best conceivable) reflected of which are the images we manipulate, the above "approach of the real" suggesting that the unqualified real entails that which is delivered by apprehension, but not that which apprehension meets against, if one is allowed to place oneself in the the Knower Before Knowers' reference frame. Obvious potential anguish and confusion ensue from the lack of certainty in real's equivalence to real. I ask of those .microsounders who in their work have approached the certainty of the real to what extent and how they have so done. Is it possible to investigate the onions within onions on a timbral basis? In cutting up or resequencing the components of voice samples, is there any way to favor one truth kernel over another? What developments have occurred on the technological front that concerns itself with modifying voice recordings for broadcast such that the modification is unnoticed, or displays its traces as innocent? -- Dear Patron Saint, your lips are lopsided www.devo.com/exegene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:59:18 +1200 To: microsound From: Damian Stewart Subject: Re: [microsound] objet petit a Message-ID: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Exegene wrote: > way to favor one truth kernel over another? What developments have occurred > on the technological front that concerns itself with modifying voice > recordings for broadcast such that the modification is unnoticed, or > displays its traces as innocent? less technological and more political/economical but i think immediately of the rise of and contraction in length of the 'soundbite' as a piece of language that is supposed to say everything there is to say about a particular side in a media-based argument. of course, there are those who consider the soundbite as something that actually fosters democracy, by forcing those who wish to gain influence to condense their message to a simple kernel easily understood by the masses.. whether this makes sense is another matter. -- f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --Boundary_(ID_YJHOkc+JzUfnMZgz8Bms0A)-- From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 03:18:47 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39835-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49630 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:18:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 49616 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:18:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:34:46 -0400 From: Graham Miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] qsound? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone know anything about this company or this process? i'm interested. http://www.qsound.com/2002/ g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Aug 3 01:22:19 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39834-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.98]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13756 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:22:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 13746 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:22:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:22:04 -0300 From: Renato Fabbri <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Level Compression Recovery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_e5MJ/M/fPkVXYXe4G1sAzw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IwN+60SBe/BcTcGqdwXu2N24s/VBCXDeXzA7NpboPRxpLxnDeGsnEhZir+C2RTRziBfSbZ3UOa3m7gwT2vl/yrwUWncrj6+Kmp91cNJXRuUzN8dlPsV/TpR1+GXVsG5SNUNfLSvNqxp+Sun8/X5mouZtGES3Nb2fme4unu9dXkI= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_e5MJ/M/fPkVXYXe4G1sAzw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, There is a piano concert recorded with a sony camera, CCD-TR317, and I am interested just in recovering the original level range (or something near it) and expression, but the audio file is very very compressed, and using expansors (like waves reinassence) is not bringing me any good advances. Another thing. It is a mono sound file. I´ve read about some ways of getting a stereo sound file from a mono one, but has never done it. Can anyone point a good method? I run Windows and Linux, both with manny of the most used programs, cubase, ardour, sound forge, PD, various pluigins etc. btw, I uploaded 2m of Liszt´s piano sonata in Bm, played on the concert we are talking about for anyone interested. It is in 44.1KHz, 16bit, about 10Mb: http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/~renato/stuff/pianoconcert2m.zip<http://cortex.lems.brown.edu/%7Erenato/stuff/pianoconcert2m.zip> all the best to everyone ref --Boundary_(ID_e5MJ/M/fPkVXYXe4G1sAzw)-- From ???@??? Wed Aug 2 12:15:58 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39833-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98124 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:15:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 98114 invoked from network); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:15:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: book club: The Political Economy of Noise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GITQ5ZFuv1SRwSHHxzAjhA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cLR1Vrf16BeCS3upAI5ASnDO+JdwpeoAngGrXILSTiQ5WOuC9Z0zgv/IZFRmv0t0Kv49ftJBAzT01R0saDqL4TWhRqM+8trYOO+3uKTpl4MxQQD0ujFbdvq9jauYM+BG2hOY2jZFSbj2SVJSW8tZvABmLSwdEFZMeSs+Yf71+j8= ; X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_GITQ5ZFuv1SRwSHHxzAjhA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 3 - I will start a chat via AIM on August 1st at 10 AM PACIFIC TIME -- I couldn't make 8-1. Is there an archive of this first chat? ...if so.. how about posting it on the wiki? -A --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. --Boundary_(ID_GITQ5ZFuv1SRwSHHxzAjhA)-- From ???@??? Tue Aug 1 17:04:58 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39832-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94237 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:04:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 94226 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:04:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:48:56 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] book club To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LaEHuwC7XWTJ0s11ZaCREg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LaEHuwC7XWTJ0s11ZaCREg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm on chat now...my laptop is still out of commission but I am using my Linux box with GAIM... I started a room called NOISE not sure but I think you just log onto AIM and look for mathfilm I can then invite you to the chat for NOISE not sure if you can just join the NOISE 'room' without an invite... still getting to know GAIM -- Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> --Boundary_(ID_LaEHuwC7XWTJ0s11ZaCREg)-- From ???@??? Tue Aug 1 06:00:53 2006 Return-path: <microsound-return-39831-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91348 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:00:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 91337 invoked from network); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:00:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:59:18 +1200 From: Damian Stewart <xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] objet petit a In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Exegene wrote: > way to favor one truth kernel over another? What developments have occurred > on the technological front that concerns itself with modifying voice > recordings for broadcast such that the modification is unnoticed, or > displays its traces as innocent? less technological and more political/economical but i think immediately of the rise of and contraction in length of the 'soundbite' as a piece of language that is supposed to say everything there is to say about a particular side in a media-based argument. of course, there are those who consider the soundbite as something that actually fosters democracy, by forcing those who wish to gain influence to condense their message to a simple kernel easily understood by the masses.. whether this makes sense is another matter. -- f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org