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electronic body music, supposedly coined by Leather Strip's Claus Larsen. kristof lauwers wrote: > >> Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >> idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, >> and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. > > > what's ebm? (apart from evidence based medicine) > > > k. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 05:33:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32143-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21617 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:33:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 21606 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:33:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:29:47 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! > > Yours, > K > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. On The Daily Show Giuliani said Kerry lectured to the nation. Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 05:38:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32144-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23281 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:38:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 23270 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:38:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradon Webb <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chicago and time based media In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey Jeff, I just moved to Chicago and also trying to carve a little nook for myself here. I graduated with a visual arts degree in Kansas City, but I mainly do audio work now. I do Some abstract programing, hacking chips, and using software, FLStudio, SoundForge, PD, MSP, whatever I can get my hands on. I do some visuals with Gem which is the 3D render engine using PD. This is a good program if you want to do live improv video as it utilizes the open architecture of object oriented programing, but the tools can be pretty remedial at first. might be your style though. It kind of caters to abstract minimal geometry well. You should e-mail me back if you have more specific questions, or if you know of any good performances, or are performing somewhere or something blah blah. later, Bradon --- Jeffrey Matz <xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> wrote: > hey all, i'm looking for some chi-town artists, > possibly for collabs or just > disscussions...especially if you're into mixing > micro elements with more organic textures... > > i'm also looking for some software suggestions as > far as mixing video... anybody doing their own > visuals? > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 06:22:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32145-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33834 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:22:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 33824 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:22:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:22:20 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via spameater01-03.dimenocmail.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(66.195.19.43):SA:0(-4.9/3.0):. Processed in 0.923448 secs Process 25505) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 1, 2004, at 1:29 AM, andrew jones wrote: >> In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! > > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while > Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really > show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. I agree completely. Of course the reason Kerry's policies didn't seem much different is because they aren't. They're both pro-war, pro-patriot act, pro-WTO, pro-NAFTA, etc etc etc. All Kerry is basically saying is, "I'd of gone to war, but I'd of kicked more ass." > Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) Wesley Clark is a war criminal, and should be tried in an international court. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:04:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32161-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63670 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:04:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 63659 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:04:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:36:09 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > >> Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) > > Wesley Clark is a war criminal, and should be tried in an > international court. > > - John > > Good thing Bush is keeping us out of that international court then =) What did Clark do anyway? All these guys have various splotches on their pasts. Peace, A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 06:53:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32146-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40761 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:53:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 40748 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:53:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:55:02 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll In-reply-to: <l03130300bd822ea186d8@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD824D51.8A33%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 9/30/04 2:49 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef at xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: >> Cage was just a faggot folk hero > -In regard to to the question put forward, > I wonder what importance can be attached to > his sexual inclination. -don't know. I see it as a form of socializing in order to win favours. Music was one tool in an arsenal of tricks.He was someone who was good at provoking envy by playing the role of the adventurer , the free man, one who showed the promise and the road to freedom. Although some of his work is very good , thought provoking etc. , to me most of it doesn't really function without the essays , the explanation. This is different than something which might suddenly sound , completely out of context , and function, be understood. He wasn't bad, and he might agree with me that he was someone capable of refreshing my memory in a rudimentary way about what I already know. >> Xenakis a shell-shocked architect who liked to make lots of noise. > -And noise is regarded as an important part of sound. > He was also quite important in defining the usage > of granular synthesis. Yes. Once again I don't see him as being worthless. Through his work he appears to me in the form of someone who connects to the sound environment in the manner of an architect. There is no crime in that , and I don't see him as a lesser being in that respect. I understand music to be the great art form , having its own manner of creating space , buildings , architecture. Even if I accept the definition of music as applied mathematics , there is an intrinsic manner of applying those numbers to sound production. It seems to be a gift some people find at an early age. Granted , it might be buried in almost everyone , even if they don't consider themselves musicians. With Xenakis although his mathematics may be complex and far reaching in a non-musical sense , I am more interested in what is purely musical (since the survey is about musical influence) which is something closer to a direct or immediate expression of emotion through numbers manifested in sound. > >>Stockhausen is a real man, the kind who can rewind a tape recorder and >>still think clearly . >-As long as it concerns himself... > He still thinks that hte Beatles are 'a modern popband'... AvS Interesting that you mention Stockhausen with the Beatles. I remember listening to 'Hymnen' and also 'Sargeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' . Parts of both albums having strong effects on animals (cats mostly) ; scrambling up the walls for instance, where every other record didn't seem to make much of an impression. Anyway , I hope you're having a good day , or whatever you're having . Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 07:36:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32147-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51085 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:36:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 51073 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:36:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:40:21 -0400 From: ben owen <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot]Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, kerry spoke with content, sited significant historical happenings, and even a quote from bush sr.'s book - bush spoke out of turn, replied with agitation, and repeated lines like " we're working hard " and closed to say " we've climbed the mountain and now we are looking into the valley of peace " - Glad people listened in - B "andrew jones" wrote: >> >> >> In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! >> >> Yours, >> K >> > > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while > Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really > show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. > On The Daily Show Giuliani said Kerry lectured to the nation. > Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) > > > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 05:23:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32142-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:23:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 17934 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:23:11 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:24:29 -0700 From: kimberly howie <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In addition to Bell Lab's impact on electronic sound innovations, they also own Lucent Technologies, which is interesting considering the prominence of cell phones and their ring tones holding both social and "compositional" qualities. Cage's expressed excitement in the limitless possibilities of sound when borrowed from environment is appealing. When referred to as "stock sound", I think of Corbis... boring ol' search engine of images that are passe, not exciting. Perhaps this is why only a handful of shows I have seen lately have sparked something personally... There is a passive quality of something similar, some fashion that is being utilized instead of exploring new terrain. Plus, Cage had a light hearted wit that provided a playfulness that is divine. In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! Yours, K While Cage On Sep 30, 2004, at 4:50 PM, ian stewart wrote: > >> I guess for me the impact Cage had, aside from the whole silence >> thing... was his idea that uisng stock sound, much like stock >> photographry and using tape based recording and editing techology, >> one could create compsitons without instruments or musicians in a >> non-liner fashion > > Schaeffer was there first with his Etudes de Bruits in '48. Cage met > up with Schaeffer in Paris in '49, but I don't think he used any > recorded sounds to make a piece until 1952 (although he had used > phonograph test tones on varispeed turntables in the 1939 Imaginary > Landscape no. 1). The German filmmaker Walter Ruttman made a sound > collage to a film strip in 1930 (Weekend) made up of the sounds of > Berlin, but that appears to have been an isolated thing. > > best, > Ian > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 09:32:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32148-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81530 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:32:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 81517 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:32:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:32:02 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot]Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:40:21 -0400, ben owen <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Well, kerry spoke with content, sited significant historical happenings, and > even a quote from bush sr.'s book - bush spoke out of turn, replied with > agitation, and repeated lines like " we're working hard " and closed to say > " we've climbed the mountain and now we are looking into the valley of peace http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/100204Z.shtml --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 09:46:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32149-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85954 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:46:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 85943 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:46:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:48:20 +0100 From: Benjamin Green <x@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [as] october 2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, lowercase-sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2004 09:46:32.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[885DE1C0:01C4A79B] ....as... airs: every SATURDAY midnight 104.4FM [london, uk] live streams: http://www.resonancefm.com other places/times: http://www.worldtimeserver.com contribute: b[at]estsoks.demon.co.uk ......... 02.10.04 Si_COMM & S.E.T.I.: [as] HYPERLANGUAGE A sound environment specially commissioned by Ben Green for transmission on Resonance 104.4 FM. Copyright 2004. Project OVERVIEW: This recording is a commissioned piece designed to thematically relate to the PROBE CD released by VIVO of Poland (www.vivo.pl) in April 2004. After being approached by Ben Green to record a new work, we decided to construct a piece which would compliment these recently released recordings, and further elaborate on some of the themes set down in the sleeve notes for PROBE. PROBE examines the notion of an impending new species of Posthuman beings. These bio-technological entities from our deep future, will bear only the merest trace of their human origins, and will no doubt greatly exceed what we currently understand to be the limits of human performance and intelligence. Far from being a sci-fi fantasists’ dream of transcendence, these theories hint at a very real possibility for the future of mankind. Given that language appears to evolve alongside the great leaps of human cognition and intuition, how might the language of these Posthumans be constructed? What will language become? Language is both a system of communication and an information processing tool. The roots of human language appear to have emerged during a period of information overload. The existing communicative methods of primitive “proto-languages”, a series of semi-coherent vocalisations, social/emotional interaction, and pre-verbal physical gesture used by early Man were “overwritten” in response to an overload, or chaos that arises when the informatic capacity of this previous set of languages could no longer cope, or had reached a new level of complexity. Given that hominids continually acquired new skills, for example- tool making; their lives increased in complexity. The early hominid mind could no longer cope with the richness of it’s life solely on the basis of its perceptual continuum, and language began to take a whole new evolutionary leap. In relation to the human brain, evolution on a biological level has reached its peak ( the head of an infant could only become so big in order to pass through the hips of its mother, and to retain the capacity for mobility – a vital factor for survival) , and after all of the physical mechanisms for increasing intelligence are exhausted, nature has conspired to increase human intelligence by using a technological, rather than biological strategem. We are currently poised on the brink of ever more rapid transitions in technology, and our interaction with it. The human communications landscape is exponentially increasing in volume, speed and capacity, as we strive to reach out into the Universe, and connect with each other in more complex, accelerated ways. To an extent, for the first time, it is We who are being transformed by our technology, and not vice-versa. As we speak, successive generations of young children are being thrust into the fast lane of cutting edge communications technology by their rapid (and somewhat remote) interactions with mobile phones (and the new accelerated language of “texting”). The mass usage of Computer games, and Personal Computers (particularly the World Wide Web), have led to the common utilisation of ever more complex and abbreviated terminologies. The internet in particular is a breeding ground for new language, as knowledge and ideas are transmitted globally at high speed. The Net has its own unique semantics, particularly, hypertext and hyperlinks, which we see as the foundation of a HYPERLANGUAGE – a revolutionary new spoken (if such a term will exist) mode of communication for the deep future. The recording project – HYPERLANGUAGE, is an artistic speculation - an analysis of our potential relationship with highly advanced communications technology in the deep future. Given that tool-making generated a major shift in thinking that led to the foundations of spoken language – it should come as no great surprise that new technologies and cognitive structures (the evolution of the mind), should seed the development of a new kind of universal language – a non- verbal HYPERLANGUAGE that is communicated at vast speed and capacity through rapid transmission systems that will greatly exceed anything we could possibly imagine at present. What we present here is an imaginary switch point at some futuristic information exchange, inhabited by fragments of human vocalisations, hybrids of what we currently understand as language, fused with digital information, and all of the inherent noise that accumulates in an overloaded system. The evolution of a new form of language, its trajectories and impact from a psychological, developmental, emotional, and educational perspective are deeply interesting to us. Please submit comments and feedback to the Lagowski blog: www.lagowski.com www.ecm323.co.uk www.vivo.pl Si_COMM updates at the blog: http://sicomm.blogspot.com ......... 09.10.04 Dale Lloyd: one hour as air pressure variations from a doorway/one hour as volatile & fixed principles air pressure variations from a doorway: I recorded two performances of air pressure manipulations using only a wooden door to maniplulate the tones. Very slight movements were required to capture some of the subtle nuances and overtones. The recordings themselves are not manipulated or processed. Aside from the air pressure tones themselves, there are also incidental sounds which come from the hallway outside the door, from a room upstairs, from a nearby refrigerator in very close proximity, and on the second recording of the two, I had mailing tape holding the door lock open, which was gradually coming unstuck, that made occasional high click sounds. On the first of the two recordings, I used duct tape, hence the lack of such sounds. volatile and fixed principles (excerpt): This is a segment from an upcoming release with the leeraum collective in Switzerland. The entire work was created using various kinds of metal objects, environmental recordings, and electronic sound sources. http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html http://www.leerraum.ch ......... 16.10.04 [no show] ......... 23.10.04 anték vvon cunt: one hour as fürv O que e um prato nacional? Pergunto-me e responda pela voz de Fialho de Almeida: <<Uma composicao culinaria rebele a escrita dos manuais, caracteristica, inconfudivel. (...) Transmite-se por tradicao; os estrangeiros nao sabem confecciona-lo, mesmo naturalizados; tendo chegado ate nos por processos lentos, e contrapovras de bilioes de experimentadores, sucessivamente interessados em fixar na sua forma irrepreensivel, resulta ser ele sempre uma coisa eminemtemente sapida e sadia. (...) 0 prata nacional e, como o romanceiro nacional, um produto de genio colectivo: ninguem o inventou e inventaram-no todos.>> (in Jose Quiterio, Livro de Bem Comer) http://66.225.223.75/furv/ ......... ....as... 2cdr 28 tracks on two cdrs. contributors: REIKO.A, joe colley, jason lescalleet, tetuzi akiyama, AMT, DSM, christophe charles, brendan walls, loren chasse, yannick dauby, kozo inada, rudolf eb.er, bruce russell, steve roden, kuwayama kiyoharu, seth nehil, stefan roigk, eric la casa, michael j. schumacher, david maranha, zbigniew karkowski, matt shoemaker, RLW, achim wollscheid, alexandre st-onge, utah kawasaki, christof migone,yasunao tone/mark fell. come wrapped in uniquely designed wax-proof paper. buy online: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php donate: http://www.resonancefm.com/support.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 10:17:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32150-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94816 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:17:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 94797 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:17:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:12:53 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002401c4a79f$37b405c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD818979.8A0A%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bill; > Stockhausen is a real man, the kind who can rewind a tape recorder and > still think clearly . What do you mean "still"? I think there are great benefits in the compositional process to rewinding taperecorders. There will be no sound for a minute or so while it rewinds and you get to calmly think things over before the sound starts again. When working with the big ones (2" 16 track) you get to doubt wether you hit "rtz" as you should´ve or wether you just hit rewind. If you hit "rtz" it´ll slow down at the last possible moment then gently stop at "0", if you hit rewind then the big motor will pull the tape loose from the reel and stuff might fly around the room. The elders of the tribe have scars on their thumbs from such occasions and you don´t want those so you keep a respectfull distance. It´s a break from the process that unlike coffee or cigs forces a quiet period and unless you try to grab the reel it´s less damaging to your health too. I like it. Let´s hear it for the zen-like qualities of rewinding taperecorders, the oldschool equivalent of hitting "render". So there. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 10:40:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32151-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2795 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:39:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 2785 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:39:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 143 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In a message dated 30/9/04 8:01:36 pm, xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: >Max Matthews is da man. I wholeheartedly concur. But what about Risset (as someone else has pointed out), and if we are to include Cage, then what about Varese? What about Messian? Eno and Autechre ...come on! Influential they may well be (and I am a big fan of them both) But surely influenced by others themselves..where are those others? Electronic music in film is a poorly recognized factor here (and one that precedes both eno and autechre in terms of popular culture)...what about the Barrons (Forbidden Planet)? Nice that we are having a good natured dialogue though. Regards rob ::_______________________________________:: --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 13:13:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32152-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43641 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:13:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 43631 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:13:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:13:41 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 02:22:20 -0400, John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2004, at 1:29 AM, andrew jones wrote: > > >> In an off comment though, the debate tonite kicked Bush ass! > > > > Really? I thought Bush came across as humane while > > Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really > > show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. He isn't "remarkably" different. He really can't be since anything sold to the American voter is going to have to be couched under the unquestionability of the "war on terror." But if Bush appeared "humane" it was only because Kerry was pretty well slaughtering him on just about any factual point regarding the war in Iraq. If Kerry appeared "cold and stern," it was because of the somber reality of that war, which is an issue he appears finally willing to address. > I agree completely. Of course the reason Kerry's policies didn't seem > much different is because they aren't. They're both pro-war, > pro-patriot act, pro-WTO, pro-NAFTA, etc etc etc. All Kerry is > basically saying is, "I'd of gone to war, but I'd of kicked more ass." Basically right. But Kerry's position is really that he wants his imperialism to be more multilateral so that the US doesn't have to bear all the cost--bigger, better coalitions, in other words. > > Wesley Clark seemed cool though =) > > Wesley Clark is a war criminal, and should be tried in an international > court. I'd throw Bush in one too. Any cool Microsound music engaging the current politics these days, or are we still deluding ourselves (self-servingly, of course) into thinking that the two are separate spheres? What's Beta Bodega up to or what happened to Ultra Red? I'd like to be giving more of my music budget to musicians who are tackling more than just music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 13:41:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32153-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52394 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:41:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 52382 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:41:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] (OT)...but close to all our hearts In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this just in, Judge Rules Against Patriot Act Provision U.S. District Judge Victor Marreo ruled in favor of the American Civil Liberties Union, which challenged the power the FBI has to demand confidential financial records from companies as part of terrorism investigations. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040929_295.html and this, Sony ditches copy-control CDs http://www.engadget.com/entry/3586262161659249/ Enjoy, PoM:A _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Fri Oct 1 14:30:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32154-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70167 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:30:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 70157 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:30:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:30:44 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] p2p To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001701c4a7c3$3fdf32f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD818979.8A0A%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <002401c4a79f$37b405c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would like to share some audio works of mine on the edonkey and overnet p2p networks, I've already encoded the tracks, prepared the playlists etc... Unfortunately, at the present time I'm still on a dialup connection, no adsl here yet. I was wondering if somebody on the list have a box connected to the edonkey network 24/7, I'd love to send him/her a couple of cdrs. Feel free to reply offlist. Thanks, ale*** --- http://www.pachinkostudio.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 15:11:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32155-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83510 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:11:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 81393 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:06:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:06:20 +0300 From: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [advertisement] Zeromoon sale - Alexei Borisov, Francisco Lopez, Kim Cascone, Scanner, Radian, Freiband ... X-Originating-IP: 172.16.20.2 via proxy gt3.firmatmm.com.ua [193.201.27.41] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: k o t r a <xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi friends i thought it would be interesting for some of you. =================================== Sale on Zeromoon records http://www.zeromoon.com We are having a sale: ALL CDs are $6.00, 5" cdrs are $5.00 each. Exciting releases by Normal Music, Andrey Kiritchenko, Ultra Milkmaids, Kotra, Alexei Borisov, Anton Nikkila, Violet, and compilations with Francisco Lopez, Kim Cascone, Scanner, Radian, Maja Ratkje, Jacob Kirkegaard, Dead Letters, Rechord, Freiband and many more. Check out the catalogue for info. http://www.zeromoon.com ======================================== - - - all the best, Kotra http://kotra.org.ua http://nexsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 15:32:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32156-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93727 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:32:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 93717 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:32:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 08:27:29 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100535bd8325a6df40@[192.168.0.3]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 11:50 PM +0000 9/30/04, ian stewart wrote: >Cage met up with Schaeffer in Paris in '49, but I don't think he >used any recorded sounds to make a piece until 1952 Williams Mix was created during 1952-53. Many of the sound sources were taken from sound effects records. The structure and process of the composition were based on chance operations. It was an eight channel piece, initially with eight mono tapes played on eight separate tape decks. Many of the source materials were manipulated according to basic musique concrete procedures, though most seem to be unaltered. The primary technical procedure in composing the tapes was splicing. Amplitude envelopes were created by using various lengths of diagonal splices. Many of the sound segments were quite short, so that some passages are certainly "micro" in their sonic structure. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 15:53:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32157-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1652 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:53:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 1642 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:53:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:52:50 +0000 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] just an FYI In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: john.hopkins%xxxxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a0610050bbd832c4bb9e9@[10.1.32.51]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey micro people It just occured to me to share a small resource that came out of the Overgaden Sound Art Festival that I co-curated with my friend Björn Ross in Copenhagen, Denmark during August. We included work from around 100 artists, some who are on the micro list, with some great live performances from about 30 acts. Following is a link to a directory of participants, and it's a good jumping-off point to explore their sites -- with the good possibility of finding something inspiring... http://soundartfestival.dk/artists.html The festival was a good success, and there are tentative plans to run it again next year or the year after. Although there was little print-media coverage, Danish radio made several programs and there was always a nice crowd for events... enjoy! cheers John -- -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ tech-no-mad::hypnostatic:: Akureyri, Iceland for a few eons domain: http://neoscenes.net travelog: http://neoscenes.net/travelog/weblog.php NEW EMAIL: <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 16:25:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32158-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13008 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:23:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 12992 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:23:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:23:43 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline server To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx OK so the hotline server now seems to be behaving and I found a client for MacOS X that allows me to do admin stuff (ala the Hotline client by BigRedH)... - here is my schedule: - I'm gone as of tomorrow for 1 week and don't know what sort of access to the internet I'll have so... - I'll be back in SF on the 9th and will be home for one week - I can assign passwords to those who want them at that point - then on the 18th I'm back in the EU for 4 weeks and will have reliable internet access for the first couple of weeks -- in summary: if you want a password it's best to email me next week and request one... email me OFF LIST if you want one!!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 17:37:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32159-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49481 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:37:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 49458 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:37:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:38:09 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] netaudio notstandskomitee on sunday To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx notstandsnacht at radio2b.org, a streaming webradio. starting on sunday, 3.october at 19:00 cest with live set 20:00 cest 13 years of Notstandskomitee, music from rare tapes and cds all inclusive industrial, electronica and powerelectronics till open end http://www.radio2b.org http://www.radio2b.org:8000/listen.pls --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 17:48:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32160-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56746 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:48:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 56731 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 17:48:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:48:30 +0200 From: Ignaz Schick <xxxxx_xxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Staalplaat Store X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx To: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx Cc: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0602040bbd8342fa1a44@[192.168.1.223]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WjSbTqX7vLriCDe86shYXw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #665375 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_WjSbTqX7vLriCDe86shYXw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Staalplaat Store is finally open, Staalplaat Torstr. 72 D-10119 Berlin U2 Rosa Luxemburgplatz Opening Hours Thuesday until Saturday, 14:00-19:00 http://www.staalplaat.com You don't have to call it music if the term shocks you --Boundary_(ID_WjSbTqX7vLriCDe86shYXw)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:23:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32162-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72323 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:23:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 72125 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:23:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:20:07 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot]Re: [microsound] Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) In-reply-to: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD828225.2A00%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey, It's not his fault he lacks the gene for public speaking =) Peace, A On Oct 1, 2004, at 3:40 AM, ben owen wrote: > Well, kerry spoke with content, sited significant historical > happenings, and > even a quote from bush sr.'s book - bush spoke out of turn, replied > with > agitation, and repeated lines like " we're working hard " and closed > to say > " we've climbed the mountain and now we are looking into the valley of > peace > " - > > Glad people listened in - > > B --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:39:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32163-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79516 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:39:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 79506 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:39:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:38:35 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] (OT) Dr. Max Matthews (was our first .microsound poll ) X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2004 18:39:00.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB333E90:01C4A7E5] I bet Bush is keeping us out of international court because he knows he would be tried for unlawfully invading Iraq. Scott >Good thing Bush is keeping us out of that international court then >=) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:45:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32164-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83600 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:45:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 83590 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:45:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:45:13 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Urban Noise Panel at Hunter NYC To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-07C89C7313DA11D9B0AE000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx See you all there! ====== Forwarded Message ====== Date: 9/30/04 11:57 AM Received: 9/30/04 11:57 AM -0400 Hello, I'm moderating this panel at Hunter. Looks like we have a fantastic group; anyone interested in the cultural history of noise and sound, sound's policy and ecology implications, and sound art or noise-influenced music will definitely want to attend! We also welcome faculty and students to participate in the acoustic ecology group now meeting monthly at Hunter to examine these issues. Best, Peter Kirn URBAN NOISE / a discussion on noise, sound, music & the urban experience Wednesday, October 6, 2004 Lang Recital Hall at Hunter College 6:00 PM: Opening remarks and listening 6:30 PM: Panel, followed by audience Q&A http://fm.hunter.cuny.edu/nysae Five panelists share and debate diverse viewpoints on the situation of noise, not-noise, environmental sound and the sonic arts as they exist in the contemporary urban environment. Panelists will discuss a range of topics, including NYC's recent revisions to the noise code, Acoustic Ecology as an emerging global movement, sound's role in defining urban culture and the design of acoustic space in city environments. Moderated by Hunter College Music Department faculty member Peter Kirn. Introductory remarks by Andrea Polli and Michelle Nagai. PANELISTS INCLUDE: Nigel Frayne: Sound Designer, President World Forum for Acoustic Ecology Dr. Arline Bronzaft, PhD.: Consultant, Researcher & Chairperson, Mayor's Council on the Environment, Noise Committee Grey Filastine: Producer, Sonarchist & Member of the Infernal Noise Brigade Phillip Baldwin: Cultural Historian, Designer & Scenographer, SUNY Stonybrook Steven Miller: Composer & Educator, the American Society for Acoustic Ecology Sponsored by the NY Society for Acoustic Ecology and the Film & Media Department of Hunter College. DIRECTIONS: The Lang Recital Hall is located on the fourth floor of Hunter North, 695 Park Avenue. Entrance to Hunter North is on 68th Street, between Lexington and Park Avenues. By Subway The #6 train stops directly under the College at the 68th Street Stop. Room 430, Fourth Floor Hunter North Enter the North Building at the 68th street entrance (between Park and Lexington Avenues). Take the elevators to the fourth floor. Make a left to the double doors. Make a right and then another left. Room 430 is straight ahead. ====== End Forwarded Message ====== <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 1 18:50:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32165-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86268 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:50:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 86250 invoked from network); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:50:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:50:03 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Anyone read modern Greek? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx-xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-B4CE31B213DA11D9B0AE000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi: For an essay I'm working on about Iannis Xenakis, anyone interested in doing a small amount of Greek translation (although probably not Xenakis himself)? I'd be happy to compensate, but as an impoverished graduate student, I can't offer what the United Nations does in terms of payscale. If you're in Athens, that would be extremely valuable. Reply off-list, thanks. Best, Tad Turner <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 01:43:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32166-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34025 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 01:42:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 34012 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 01:42:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Seeking musicians: San Francisco Found Objects Festival In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey everyone, I'm putting together the 3rd Annual San Francisco Found Objects Festival, and am looking for 2 or 3 more musicians to create music using only sounds from household objects submitted by the audience. If you're interested, please read the info below. General: The dates are Thursday and Friday, November 4th and 5th in San Francisco. Venues are the Luggage Store Gallery (thursday) and 964 Natoma (friday). Set time is 20 minutes per performer/group. (That'll make more sense when you read the rest.) There's no payment guarantee or anything. Artists will get an even share of the door after the venue takes its fee. The challenge: All the sounds used in your set must be generated from an object that was submitted by an audience member. Musicians are allowed to bring any equipment to MODIFY sounds, including bows, malletts, laptop computers, samplers and effects. You can't use guitars, drums, voice, etc, unless it's the sound of the found object that we're hearing. (For example, using a spring as a prepared guitar implement is not allowed, but using a guitar as a midi device to control samples of a spring is allowed.) The objects submitted by the audience will be placed in a loose mess around the performance area. During your set, you're free to pick up and use any of the objects you feel are appropriate for what you're doing. All the acts in the night will be working from the same pool of objects. I try to book a variety of musical styles in each night though, so different acts will use different objects, or the same objects differently. In order to keep the event on schedule, we ask the artists to have their equipment set-up before the show starts. Anyway, if you're interested, please email me off-list. Right now we're only looking for 2 or 3 people, but we keep "extra" folks in mind for future installments. Matt Davignon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 04:39:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32167-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75751 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:39:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 75739 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:39:07 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:39:01 +0200 From: IMPOSTURAS <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] software To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi people I´m looking for experimetal audio software special glitch music(for PC) Recomendated please. Thanks in advance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 04:52:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32168-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79030 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:52:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 79019 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:52:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] OT: ID this? "mysti-cat, sophisti-cat, aristo-cat..." In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey folks, Sorry for the OT posting, but my ear was virusized at Burning Man by a groovy electronica mid-tempo lounge track with a perpetually mutating vocal line as described in the subject line. Any idea what this might be? Trusting to crossover interests of .m listers... Btw if you know what it is, do you know what genre it is? I heard a fair amount of stuff that was obviously in the same style but I'm woefully ignorant of current sub-sub-genre proliferation in dance music... :/ best, aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 11:33:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32169-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 07:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53465 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 11:33:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 53451 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 11:33:12 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:29:19 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] software To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx IMPOSTURAS didst pen: >>I´m looking for experimetal audio software special glitch music(for PC) not sure what exactly you mean by experimental? should the software be experimental, or should it be software for sound-experiments?.. anyway, assuming the last and given that quite a few of these fall into the first categorie just as well: there is a whole section devoted to open source programs on the microsound wiki http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/OpenSourceSoftware pd, cecilia and csound would be my personal recommendations from the list. http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html here is an installer compiled featuring most externals. more nice programs, including granulab and audiomulch (wicked) are on the granulator-wiki page: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/GranuLator not free/open source but also great programs are: maxmsp, reaktor, vaz-modular (the last being a "geheimtip")... http://www.smartelectronix.com/ has heaps of experimental vst plugins you can use within your daw, but also audiomulch, vazmod, and more... http://www.plogue.com/ bidule from plogue is similar to pd/max, but less sophisticated (thus easier to learn.... i would recommend to try (the free beta), if you have no experience with modular systems... i have used this to sketch ideas for pd patches in the past, i.e. http://www.webcenter.ru/%7Evsoft/BitmapPlayer.htm this was only posted to this list recently - wav/bmp/wav conversion, and links to 3 other tools. in a similar vain you could also check out coagula: http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Coagula.htm http://www.ixi-software.net/ (do people use these´?) these guys have various funny progs. personally however i never managed to get much out of them, some wouldn't even work.... ok, guess there is more. i know of some very long link-lists existing, couldn't dig them up atm though.... have fun, create and pro.. ah forget the last, hidari °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 13:02:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32170-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 09:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 09:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72047 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:02:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 72037 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:02:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OT: ID this? "mysti-cat, sophisti-cat, aristo-cat..." In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Aaron, I believe that those words are from a track off the last Outkast album The Love Below not speakerboxx. Don't know the track name but the track comes after one of their cleaver interludes...something about "the fiddler on the MF'ing roof" then the track starts "A Lady, A Lady"....BTW there is also a very, I think, interesting cover of My Favorite Things on the same album. If you want I'd be glad to email a mp3 of said track when I dig up my copy. PoM:A _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 16:56:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32171-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24160 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:56:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 24149 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:56:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:55:54 -0400 From: Ben Neill <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> Cage was just a faggot folk hero That was an appalling comment, really surprising to hear that kind of thing on this list. John Cage is one of the most important artists of the last century hands down. His influence extends way beyond the fairly narrow world of electronic music. >> I thought Bush came across as humane while >> Kerry came across cold and stern and failed to really >> show any points remarkably different than Bush's own policies. I guess the right wing's crusade has infiltrated a lot further than I thought. What's next, Christian electronica? Ben Neill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 17:56:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32172-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37369 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 37357 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] TWiki down? X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, is the TWiki down? I get a "connection refused" error. P "TWikis in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 18:47:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32173-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51537 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:47:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 51527 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:47:03 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:46:09 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll X-Originating-IP: [138.88.243.22] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2004 18:47:00.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[33B92A60:01C4A8B0] I agree, Cage gets slammed a lot on this list. His influence extends much further than electronic music, he influenced and still influences the worlds of painting, sculpture, poetry, graphic design, performance art, sound art, music, not to mention he was the first western to go into the soviet union during the cold war to give a talk about mushrooms (even the soviets loved him). Cage really worked to remove the ego as much as possible from art making, mostly through the use of chance operations. His contribution to western artseems the introduction of chance into art making and intentional removal of ego. I would hardly consider him a folk hero, that's simply an ignorant statement, Cage was educated and a pivotal figure in the modern and post modern art movements (read some of Calvin Tomkins books to learn more). Cage provided alternatives to how we listen to sound and developed creative performative structures, not just new toys to make sound with, he also presented the phonograph cartridge as a musical instrument and thus created live electronic music. From liner notes to Fontana Mix - Feed - Max Neuhaus/six realizations of John Cage - Alga marghen - "Electronic music-making was, in fact, confined to a studio where tape recordings were made and manipulated. These were then supposed to be played back to an audience sitting in a concert hall watching two loudspeakers. Except for Cage's performances with phonograph cartridges, live electronic music did not exist." Scott Allison >>>Cage was just a faggot folk hero > >That was an appalling comment, really surprising to hear that kind >of thing on this list. John Cage is one of the most important >artists of the last century hands down. His influence extends way >beyond the fairly narrow world of electronic music. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 19:15:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32174-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63654 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 63265 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:15:28 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd84aa769d2f@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I agree, Cage gets slammed a lot on this list. -I don't understand why Cage the composer and Cage the writer/philosopher can't be judged separately. When people are active both as artists and theoretical writers, they quite often contradictory in their acts. Theories often sound very inspirational, but make lousy art. As much as great art is often lousy theory. >Cage provided alternatives to how we listen to sound and developed creative >performative structures, not just new toys to make sound with, he also >presented the phonograph cartridge as a musical instrument and thus created >live electronic music. -For the development of live electronic music has been very important. The current laptop performance-warriors own a lot to him. He also started much earlier with it than Stockhausen. >Cage was just a faggot folk hero -I never understood what this had to do with his music, in the first place. Secondly, I don't think it's anyone's bloody business. Too much emphasis is placed on this. Also in the political world in the USA and also in the UK, if your inclination is of what Cage was accused of, you are deemed to be unfit to be government. To what reason is never told. Just accusations. 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Sat Oct 2 20:40:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32175-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84227 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:40:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 84216 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:40:04 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:39:16 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll X-Originating-IP: [138.88.243.22] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2004 20:40:01.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD1ECA90:01C4A8BF] >-I don't understand why Cage the composer and Cage the > writer/philosopher can't be judged separately. I am sure you could judge them separately, might be a good topic for a book, don't wait for someone else to do it. More perspectives are better than less perspectives. > When people are active both as artists and theoretical > writers, they quite often contradictory in their acts. Examples? > Theories often sound very inspirational, but make > lousy art. As much as great art is often lousy theory. True, often performances come out being lousy other times successful (regardless of whoever it is doing truly live electronic music, (there was a long thread discussing what might constitute live electronic music recently on this list, in Cages example I think he fits into the performance side, all sound making being generated in real time, and as a result sometimes a performance is successful, other times awful, chance has a hand in the matter as the composition takes place in the moment, although Cage did create performance strategies... of which seem to influence the work of people like Steve Roden for a contemporary relationship, he talks about using strategies in most of his work, doesn't mean his work is always good). Cage seemed more interested in the results of the information derived from chance operations (again read Tomkins), the whole idea being that you might discover something that you/your ego would have never made and thus informing new ideas/solutions. Often times this practice results in (for better or worse - loose connections or entropic noise, but it can also provide for new ideas and new relationships in meaning). Saying Cage made lousy art is to general of a statement, (not to suggest that your statement is saying he made lousy art,it seems you are speaking in more general terms here.) (but one needs to be really specific if saying Cage made lousy art, he produced work in so many fields, are we referring to his sound work (which recording/performance in particular, and by what system are we using to say its lousy?), or maybe the rock paintings he did as artist in residence VA tech (which are considered stunning and highly sought after), artistic judgment can also depend on what sort of cultural filter we look/hear through, sure Cage would be lousy to someone expecting to hear electornica like Autechre (based on a cannon of beats and lush melodies), and look what happened to Autechre when they released Confield (mostly beatless noise), the AE fan base hated it, does that make them Lousy artists? No. Artists are allowed to make things people might not like, I commend that action, because that shows someone is willing to take a risk and do something that might not be accepted or considered popular, also helps to keeps life fresh. 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Sat Oct 2 21:49:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32176-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1803 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:49:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 1793 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:49:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: alkzan <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? or... is there a piece of sotware that can do as much (or more) than a hardware c. path in real time? that will be nice. than you in advance:) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 21:56:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32177-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4254 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 4223 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:56:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:56:27 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd84cd3b37f6@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > More perspectives are better than less perspectives. -I agree fully. To what extent it's likely, is another matter. Simplifications or dumbing, is often more appreciated. >When people are active both as artists and theoretical >writers, they quite often contradictory in their acts. >Examples? -I was actually thinking about Henry & Schaeffer in their statements about musique concrete, but also about Meyer-Eppler at the WDR-Studio in Koln, Germany. In both cases, statements were made that the new electronic means would make acousticial instruments unimportant. Now you can view these statements in the light of their content or in the light of the revolutionary elan that was taking place just after the Second World War in Europe, which basically ruined its cultural life. I'm inclined to do both. >True, often performances come out being lousy other times successful >(regardless of whoever it is doing truly live electronic music, (there was a >long thread discussing what might constitute live electronic music recently >on this list, in Cages example I think he fits into the performance side, >all sound making being generated in real time, and as a result sometimes a >performance is successful, other times awful, chance has a hand in the >matter as the composition takes place in the moment, although Cage did >create performance strategies... of which seem to influence the work of >people like Steve Roden for a contemporary relationship, he talks about >using strategies in most of his work, doesn't mean his work is always good). -If you are adressing here the level of quality of live electronic music concerts, I think rehearsing and decent preparation can overcome a lot of the 'awfullness' you are referring to. To what extent 'live' is important is open for discussion >Cage seemed more interested in the results of the information derived from >chance operations (again read Tomkins), -As any good composer would be. Think Xenakis was kind of similar. >the whole idea being that you might >discover something that you/your ego would have never made and thus >informing new ideas/solutions. -Which is a very succesfull method indeed. >Often times this practice results in (for >better or worse - loose connections or entropic noise, >but it can also provide for new ideas and new relationships in meaning). -Depends on the interpretations and the needs. >Saying Cage made lousy art is to general of a statement, >(not to suggest >that your statement is saying he made lousy art,it seems you are speaking in >more general terms here.) (but one needs to be really specific if saying >Cage made lousy art, he produced work in so many fields, are we referring to >his sound work (which recording/performance in particular, and by what >system are we using to say its lousy?), or maybe the rock paintings he did >as artist in residence VA tech (which are considered stunning and highly >sought after), -I actually quite like the works of the composer Cage; i also think he's a good writer in any sense of the word. >artistic judgment can also depend on what sort of cultural filter >we look/hear through, -Intriguing question is, how wide or limited should this filter be? >Artists are allowed to make things people might not like, I >commend that action, because that shows someone is willing to take a risk >and do something that might not be accepted or considered popular, -There are only instincts to follow, whether the supposed audience likes it or not. >also helps to keeps life fresh. -Which is the best way to sabotage presumption... 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Sat Oct 2 22:12:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32178-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9299 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 9288 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:05:14 -0400 From: michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD849E5A.297E%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? err...do you mean a korg kaoss pad ? not sure of any software that does the same, but i'd highly recommend the hardware. cheap & fun...should be available from any of yer usual online retilers, or ebay, for that matter. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 22:12:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32179-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10156 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 10146 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:12:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:17 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx do you mean Kaos Pad? On Oct 2, 2004, at 5:49 PM, alkzan wrote: > > > does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? > > or... is there a piece of sotware that can > do as much (or more) than a hardware c. path > in real time? that will be nice. > > than you in advance:) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 2 22:23:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32180-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13288 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:23:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 13278 invoked from network); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:23:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:21:08 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>a chaos path read the tao te king ...:) hidari °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 02:08:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32181-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62087 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:08:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 62074 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:08:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:08:36 -0400 From: Peter Becker <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Ebay f/a To: Microsound List <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD84D764.2EE7%xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A friend put up some quality microsound-y CDs, mostly older. Nice group of stuff, second 1/2 of the list. http://tinyurl.com/3sxp4 Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 02:38:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32182-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69862 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:38:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 69851 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:38:08 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Verlorene_Ursache <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello microsounders, I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the desired specific control I am looking for. My method now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I can play with that somewhat, although the technique is not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am looking for any advice really on this matter. Thank you, d. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 02:55:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32183-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74006 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:55:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 73996 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:55:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:58:20 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx have you tried the great buffer override plug-in located here: http://www.smartelectronix.com/~destroyfx/ i love that thing. i run everything through it. everything. some great results. g. Verlorene_Ursache wrote: > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Sun Oct 3 03:23:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32184-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 02 Oct 2004 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79637 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:23:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 79627 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:23:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:23:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I assume you've tried bufferoverride from destroyfx? skidder works well too. What other vst's have you come across that cause butter stuffer? I mean buffer stutter? I always do it the brute force way: run a java applet in Mozilla Firefox, maybe another one in Mozilla, install and compile a program using Fink and then use beta software like audacity with a few too many tracks. stutter city. Does this not create the desire you want? P > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. "Sound cards in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 04:48:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32185-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 597 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:48:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 587 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:48:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:48:48 -0400 (EDT) From: alkzan <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <BD849E5A.297E%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ys a kaosschaotik fking path pad! tnks i might trt it zoon. --- michael trommer <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > does anybody knows where to buy a chaos path>? > > err...do you mean a korg kaoss pad ? > > not sure of any software that does the same, but i'd > highly recommend the > hardware. cheap & fun...should be available from any > of yer usual online > retilers, or ebay, for that matter. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 05:35:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32187-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14144 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:35:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 14128 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:35:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:39:10 -0400 From: ben owen <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8508BE.2AB0%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Or try spongefork - "th_ost" wrote: >>> a chaos path > > read the tao te king ...:) > > > hidari > > > °°° > th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer > acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego > > http://www.tomoroh.com/ > http://www.stiege44.com/ > http://www.skug.at/ > >>> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, > representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a > standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. > made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets > wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but > no banjos.... > °°°°° > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 05:06:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32186-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6956 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:06:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 6944 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:06:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:00:14 +0200 From: Murat Gunes <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-9; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-Authenticated: #12624905 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Your subject made me think of something else at first glance: has anyone tried circuit bending a sound interface? On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT), Verlorene_Ursache <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Sun Oct 3 19:10:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32206-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98256 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:10:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 98244 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:10:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:41:10 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004101c4a91c$5cc4db40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Anthony Saunders write; > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but > with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having > a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which > route I'd like to go. I went with my real first name (Kassen) for a couple of reasons. First of all, since I experience my own music as a fairly personal affair it makes sense to not "hide" and sign it with my real name. Secondly, since I simply have that name, nobody can suddenly jump up for copyright infringement or whatever. The cooler your chosen name, the larger the chance that somebody else already thought it was cool, you might have to change it, etc, or so I figured. Admittedly having a somewhat rare name helps a lot there which is mostly a matter of luck. Because of label politics and the occasional urge to jump styles I might need a second name some time in the future so I´ll be following this discussion with interest. Yours, Kas. 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Sun Oct 3 07:58:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32188-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 03:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46487 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:58:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 46477 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:58:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:10:51 +0200 From: "pyo.p" <xxx.x@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] audio USB To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4a920$7fb1e8b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_cGdt2OrYsrAIF3diWRqb2A)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_cGdt2OrYsrAIF3diWRqb2A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello list ! i know it has been posted many times but i'm still looking for a good audio/usb soundcard for my pc. some of you use it ? any idea, advice ? thanks for your attention. pyo. -- :. . xxx@xxxx.xx : . . . :~. :|.6 . / ; http://pyo.free.fr- k . 32 . . :~. http://pyo.workgroup.free.fr .- [ e | ° -- : . . .,. 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Sun Oct 3 09:21:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32189-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66367 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:21:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 66354 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:21:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: DreamHost Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The FM chips from old soundblasters would probably be similar to the chips in Casio keyboards of the same vintage. > Your subject made me think of something else at first glance: has anyone > tried circuit bending a sound interface? > > On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:38:03 -0700 (PDT), Verlorene_Ursache > <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> Hello microsounders, >> >> I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice >> concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard >> hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to >> provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the >> desired specific control I am looking for. My method >> now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the >> puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I >> can play with that somewhat, although the technique is >> not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being >> altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am >> looking for any advice really on this matter. >> >> Thank you, >> >> d. >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Sun Oct 3 10:46:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32190-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 06:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 06:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85393 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:46:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 85380 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:46:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:46:52 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio USB In-reply-to: <000f01c4a920$7fb1e8b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000f01c4a920$7fb1e8b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello imo you have to check m-audio website, very good usb and firewire soundcards, not much expensive..... have good times www.smbp.it Il giorno 03/ott/04, alle 10:10, pyo.p ha scritto: > hello list ! > i know it has been posted many times but i'm still looking for a good > audio/usb soundcard for my pc. > some of you use it ? any idea, advice ? > thanks for your attention. > pyo. > -- > :. . xxx@xxxx.xx : . . . :~. :|.6 . / ; http://pyo.free.fr- k . 32 . > . :~. > http://pyo.workgroup.free.fr .- [ e | ° -- : . . .,. 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Sun Oct 3 11:55:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32191-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95875 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:48:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 95722 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:48:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:48:24 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Symbiosis Playlist - 19/9/04 (Fallt Publishing) To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDIIECBDCAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Symbiosis Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms [Headphones recommended] 12am - 2am Sunday nights (2pm - 4pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hi all, Back to the studio after a refreshing week off... hope you've all been well. The great news is that Symbiosis is presenting Greg Davis' show in Melbourne.. His new record, 'Somnia', arrived this week (out Oct 18th) and it showcases a different side of his musical output. This one is all about tones and drones... very nice stuff. So if you're in Melbourne I hope you can make it down to the show (see below for details). Tonight on the show, City Frequencies join me to chat about their new 6.1 surround installation. 'Cafe Voyeur' takes place as part of Melbourne Fringe Festival (see: http://www.akm.net.au/cityfreqs/cv.htm) from this Thursday 7th October. Matt and Nick will be performing live on Symbiosis tonight and will utilise the large sound back that they amassed during their original excursion to Kent St Cafe in July. In the coming weeks... 10/10: Dallas Simpson chats about his binaural recordings and the intentions of his location-specific recordings. Have your headphones out for this one - Dallas has very kindly sent across some of his 'Adoration of Willow' series. I have chosen the piece from Kneeton which he describes as follows: "In Kneeton, there is a long, approximately 8 minute walk-in, with quiet natural ambience and footsteps. The snapping sounds are from dead twigs probably stripped from the trees during winds. In Kneeton, much of the improvisation related to the fact that the trees were distorted and dying due to the fact that the river had beed diverted some 50 years previously and the willows no longer inhabited the bank. The ditch alongside the trees, formerly the river bed, occasionally fills with water after rain, which was the case on this occasion. The half decayed hulls of the trunks and dead branches offered wonderfully subtle resonances." In the pipeline: Listening to the Mind concert, Anthony Guerra, Sijis Records, Taalem Records, Steve Law, Ian Andrews, Mike Hallenbeck Upcoming events... 13/10: Symbiosis presents... Greg Davis (USA) Qua and friends Ai Yamamoto DJ: Simon Hampson Bourgie, 397 Lt Lonsdale St, Melbourne (got a show to list? let me know...) Until next week, Simon. now playing: Ontayso / Sense / Tim Koch - Where have you been? What have you done? And Why? (U-Cover) now watching: Teen Wolf -------------------------------------------- Show Date: 19/9/04 Guests/Features: The September label feature takes a look at Fallt publishing (http://www.fallt.com/). Fallt formed in the late 90s and their world empire beams its transmissions from the unlikely place of Hillsborough, N. Ireland! Christopher Murphy has a chat with me about the past and future of the label, online music and more... Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label (all releases on Fallt - P = physical release/o = online) Si-cut.db :: slavic :: Offices At Night [Vol 1 - originals] :: P Hard Sleeper :: land :: live @ rausch 5/11/02 :: P Alejandra & Aeron :: Empire 01 :: Empire (Xmas Gift 2003) :: o Ian Andrews :: assistance :: Offices At Night [Vol 2 - vol 1] :: (upcoming o&P release) Christopher Willits :: no gasoline :: Pollen :: P Invalid Object (http://www.fallt.com/invalidObject/) mix: Pita Scanner Cray Taylor Deupree Rsundin Kim Cascone Junior Varsity Steve Roden Warmdesk V/Vm eM Stephan Mathieu Eloy Anzola Goem Ekkehard Ehlers Richard Chartier Massimo Akira Rabelais Invisible Cities (http://www.fallt.com/invisiblecities/) mix: Beijing Sound Unit - Beijing Danylo & Mass - Naples Lawrence English - Brisbane Frans de Waard - Nijmegen Gregory Cowley - Marrakesh Ian Andrews :: recursive toupee :: Ceremonial :: Ferric Series (P) Tu M' :: nervous breakdown :: Pop Involved [Ver 3.0] :: Ferric Series (P) Camp :: it's the same thing over and over! :: Fodder :: o Dat Politics :: rag :: Fodder :: o Ted Sulkowicz :: kolc :: Fodder :: o Slub :: 20010203 (folded) :: Fodder :: o Komet +/vs. Bovine Life :: behind :: Reciprocess Vol 1 :: o Si-cut.db + Full Swing +/vs. Stephan Mathieu + Douglas Benford :: octavia.drive :: Reciprocess Vol 2 :: o Sebastian Roux :: constance :: Offices At Night [Volume 2 - vol 1] :: (upcoming o&P release) Mikael Stavostrand :: fallt 2 :: untitled upcoming P release -- Links from this week's show: All content: http://www.fallt.com/ ----------------------- To Unsubscribe [ xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx ] from future Symbiosis mailings please email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx ----------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 12:15:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32192-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2788 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:15:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 2777 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:15:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:15:20 -0300 (ART) From: Zusammen Hangslos <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u9SpSxCY8ZZrCEoxqH/fTA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_u9SpSxCY8ZZrCEoxqH/fTA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit when you're running fruityloops 3 and you get a memory overload there are good noises from the patterns you've created. Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:I assume you've tried bufferoverride from destroyfx? skidder works well too. What other vst's have you come across that cause butter stuffer? I mean buffer stutter? I always do it the brute force way: run a java applet in Mozilla Firefox, maybe another one in Mozilla, install and compile a program using Fink and then use beta software like audacity with a few too many tracks. stutter city. Does this not create the desire you want? P > Hello microsounders, > > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard > hacking. I have messed with various vsts which aim to > provide a skip of the buffer, but none give me the > desired specific control I am looking for. My method > now to achieve the sound I like, is to overload the > puter until eventually it glitches and skips, and I > can play with that somewhat, although the technique is > not what i want to do, b/c once buffer is being > altered, I can not seem to record the result. I am > looking for any advice really on this matter. > > Thank you, > > d. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! --Boundary_(ID_u9SpSxCY8ZZrCEoxqH/fTA)-- From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 13:36:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32193-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17493 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:36:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 17482 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:36:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:36:19 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] human voice range To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi list, is that correct that human voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz ? is that why most instruments have been designed in this range? any idea(s)? thank you Thanos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:14:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32194-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25199 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:14:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 25189 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:14:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:16:14 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <000d01c4a8ce$1eaa8ec0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi > >>a chaos path ( 04.10.03 00:21 +0200 ) th_ost: > read the tao te king ...:) hmm ... i think 'dharma bums' would be better [or 'howl']. beats were very chaotic. taoists flow, blend. -- \js $( ;\ '..@"]~{& ~% ;http://or8.net/~johns ( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:17:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32195-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26345 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:17:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 26335 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:17:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:19:21 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TWiki down? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.10.02 17:56 +0000 ) Phil Thomson: > Well, is the TWiki down? I get a "connection refused" error. it came up for me Sun Oct 3 09:57:48 EDT 2004 i know the sysadmins were changing the hardware [more discs], but i was not given a schedule. lemme know if problems persist. -- \js .'>.-_['' :http://or8.net/~johns = [{)"% }+..%|_ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:23:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32196-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28063 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:23:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 28053 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:23:08 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:22:40 +0200 From: Massimiliano Viel <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] human voice range In-reply-to: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> X-Sender: mail%xxxxxxx.xx@xxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a05200f29bd85b72a4ad2@[1.255.244.143]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Hi list, > > >is that correct that >human voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz ? > >is that why most instruments have been designed >in this range? the human voice range starts about 83 Hz (E2) and more or less goes up to 1046 Hz (C6)... I wouldn't say that there is a direct and causal correspondence between voice range and (most) intruments range. It's something more complex that links voice range, listenings discrimination, physiology of the auditive system and physics of the instruments... of course most instruments are classified by their range following voice classifications (bass, baryton, tenor, alto, mezzosoprano, soprano) and following more or less their range.. that's true... still, in my opinion, a close direct causal relationship is still far... I would rather say that human voice and intruments range are part of the same meaning system... massimiliano -- M a s s i m i l i a n o V i e l http://www.maxviel.it http://www.otolab.net/projects/sn/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 14:42:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32197-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33625 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:42:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 33615 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:42:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:42:49 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] human voice range In-reply-to: <a05200f29bd85b72a4ad2@[1.255.244.143]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd85bf4ffbe6@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >a close direct causal relationship is still far... -However one can not overlook the rich tradition of vocal music supported with/by acoustic instruments. Also the articulation possibilities that the voice has, is still unsurpassed. Perhaps only electronics have a wider range. 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Sun Oct 3 14:54:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32198-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36872 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:53:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 36862 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:53:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] human voice range In-reply-to: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Depends on the voice of course, as well as on the sound it's making. Certainly telephones have been designed with that frequency response in mind as the minimum bandwidth required for voice intelligibility. I don't know about how the range of instruments corresponds to the range of the voice. It seems to me there are just as many instruments that go beyond the range of the normal voice (piccolo, double bass) as there are that nestle within a voicelike range for the most part (clarinet, violin). Originally, instruments were designed to be sung with, so they certainly needed to have a similar range to a voice, but now that instrumental music has become so independent of the voice, it's not necessarily the case any more. Perhaps the history of the development of instruments in "Western" music is the history of the move of instrumental music away from the role of accompaniment and towards an independent realm. P > Hi list, > > > is that correct that > human voice range covers 300 Hz to 3500 Hz ? > > is that why most instruments have been designed > in this range? > > > any idea(s)? > thank you > > Thanos "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 15:31:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32200-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43381 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:31:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 43371 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:31:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:44:19 +0200 From: "pyo.p" <xxx.x@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] test In-reply-to: <l03130300bd85bf4ffbe6@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: fr, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <BD85BEE3.3509%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> <l03130300bd85bf4ffbe6@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx test. please ignore. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 17:42:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32201-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71592 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:42:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 71582 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:42:43 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:42:23 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] intentional soundcard hacking? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4a970$5ad44ab0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think Nicolas Collins gave a workshop on this a few months ago @ STEIM, Amsterdam. Maybe you can search in that direction. S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : Murat Gunes [mailto:xxxxxx@xxx.xxx] Your subject made me think of something else at first glance: has anyone tried circuit bending a sound interface? > I am wondering if anyone can share some tips or advice > concerning intentional malicious code for soundcard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 15:07:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32199-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39156 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:07:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 39140 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:07:43 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:07:11 -0700 From: kathy kennedy <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re:human voice range In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx In fact, a healthy human voice has overtones that we do not neccessarily "hear" up to and beyond 15khz. That's what makes it so difficult to simulate. kk On Oct 3, 2004, at 6:36 AM, xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > human voice range http://www.kathykennedy.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 18:38:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32202-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85943 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:38:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 85870 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:38:50 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:38:46 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello .microsounders, Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but with how to present them or, i guess, market them. I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which route I'd like to go. Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to present them. Any ideas on this topic? Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 18:52:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32204-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91857 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:51:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 91846 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:51:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:51:51 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c4a97a$0f8dc4f0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I would choose a project name.... some thing well thought out - that reflects you and the music - a made up word will do - a combination of words..... It means that if you choose direction in the future - or want to explore a different style all together your project name can change and you present your listener's with a clearer label about where you are coming from.... some people do go with their name.... and it works for some - it would never work for me - because i share my name with the famous film composer David Newman Kim Cascone writes under his name though and it seems to flow for him..... "name project" is a quite good name in itself............... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Saunders" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:38 PM Subject: [microsound] project names vs real names... > > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but with > how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having a > hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which route > I'd like to go. > > Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, > which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. But > then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to present them. > > Any ideas on this topic? > > Anthony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 19:04:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32205-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95227 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:04:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 95216 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:04:09 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:05 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <p05210602bd85fc3142d1@[64.63.223.112]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210602bd85fc3142d1@[64.63.223.112]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes, this is how I'm leaning right now. I'm looking, i guess, for a kid606 or afx-esque moniker that I feel comfortable using for everything from my ambient/drone/noise to my jungle/idm/breakcore tracks to whatever other material I make. I have a couple ideas that I'm letting gestate in my head to see what I feel comfortable with over time. When it comes to modern computer music, the grey area between academic / "serious" music and pop / techno / punk can feel very large and easy to fall into. Then again, I'm also looking for a good way to bridge the gap between my largely improvisational beat-less music and my largely hyper-edit precise breakcore material. I've decided to tackle this for now by forcing myself to focus on learning how to play as live as possible at all times, beats or no beats, melodic or not. Going to be interesting to see what happens to my music under this restriction: in the end, I think I will be a better musician for it, and that my music will be more expressive. Anthony On Oct 3, 2004, at 3:04 PM, chthonic streams wrote: > > on the other hand, if your project reaches across other genres, some > people do like to hear a name that sticks in their heads. this is, i > guess, the marketing side of it, because what you're doing in this > case is branding. you're building up a name to permanently associate > with the music that you do. it's really the same thing as with your > own name, it's just that a project name may be more instantly > recognizable, depending on what you're going after and what your name > is. for example, if your given name is bjork or madonna, there's not > much reason to come up with a project name. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 18:50:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32203-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90790 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:50:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 90780 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:50:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:04:49 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210602bd85fc3142d1@[64.63.223.112]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >hello .microsounders, > >Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, >but with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > >I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting >my music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am >having a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure >out which route I'd like to go. > >Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important >thing, which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard >about it. But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea >how to present them. > >Any ideas on this topic? it seems to me that in the world of experimental music, whether live or electronic, real names prevail. one could argue that musicians and listeners of this genre are pretty much unaffected by things such as names and may even view a project name as silly. in fact, it almost seems that the more "unusual" or "unmarketable" (to western, and particularly american ears) a given name is, the better it sounds. on the other hand, if your project reaches across other genres, some people do like to hear a name that sticks in their heads. this is, i guess, the marketing side of it, because what you're doing in this case is branding. you're building up a name to permanently associate with the music that you do. it's really the same thing as with your own name, it's just that a project name may be more instantly recognizable, depending on what you're going after and what your name is. for example, if your given name is bjork or madonna, there's not much reason to come up with a project name. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 19:50:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32207-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11880 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:50:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 11868 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:50:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:49:42 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003601c4a982$21323e40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx good topic, i find myself musing on this one... many local soundmakers in the michigan area use project names... some of them have several, with each one representing some schism of their direction, techniques, strategy or tactics... i find this interesting, because the boundaries are often imperceptible, and i often feel, unnecessary... i reserve project names for ongoing collaborations, which i guess is an old-school nod towards the concept of self-contained "bands"... i also think that many of the artists i respect the most use a name (not always their given name, sometimes an adopted psuedonym) for their work... kevin drumm, aaron dilloway, rafael toral, fennesz, trimpin, irene moon, for example... i would also closely align those who use their initals with this (slong with the aforementioned who use their surnames only)... such as pbk & rlw... i like the "real"... a sample of my $o2 thanx for the interesting question... ~will soderberg http://white-rose.net http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml upcoming & past shows (including a few in the nothwest later this month) http://white-rose.net/sounds.html white rose network releases catalog http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ mp3s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Saunders" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: [microsound] project names vs real names... > > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but > with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having > a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which > route I'd like to go. > > Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, > which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. > But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to > present them. > > Any ideas on this topic? > > Anthony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 20:26:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32208-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19282 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:26:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 19271 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:26:27 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:26:24 -0400 (EDT) From: alkzan <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] chaos path In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx or a biography about yr ass maybe? --- john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > hi > > > >>a chaos path > > ( 04.10.03 00:21 +0200 ) th_ost: > > read the tao te king ...:) > > hmm ... i think 'dharma bums' would be better [or > 'howl']. beats were > very chaotic. > > taoists flow, blend. > > -- > \js $( ;\ '..@"]~{& ~% > ;http://or8.net/~johns ( > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 20:44:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32209-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24096 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:44:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 24027 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:44:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Elliott <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... X-Originating-IP: [65.70.207.5] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQF85gpBYGSXAA8cfQEAAAAB,7436494ff7a3dbf4c6fbb3d9402cd8ae X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think a lot of us have given this one quite a bit of thought, so great topic as it concerns so many on this list. I have often thought that there is something really genuine and pure about using one's given name for the work they do on their own or as a solo project. There is even something humble about it as if to say, 'here is my musick. no smoke, no mirrors, just the musick.' But then again, there is a certain attraction to using a project moniker to sort of continue a consistency with the Cagean 'taking the ego out of the product' kind of idea. When you use a project moniker it is possible to say that that is a name for the works themselves or a collective body of work and nevermind so much who the person is that did them. I'm just pointing out what I have thought are the pros of going either way, and my thought on either way to go does not imply a con of the other way. i.e. I don't mean that people who use their given name are egotistical, nor do I mean that people who use a moniker are inauthentic or not humble or just trying to wear a mask or something like that. I ultimately, after much introspective debating, chose to go with using a project moniker (Spagirus) rather than my given name. The ultimate deciding factor for me had nothing to do with any of my thoughts above. I just really like the word, and it fits my work and life so damn well, I just had to keep it. (If you want to know what the word means you can find it by scrolling down here http://www.angelfire.com/journal/cathbodua/EsodictS.html ). I think ultimately the decision of whether or not to use your given name or a project moniker will come down to what your sound art values are, or just to which one you like better. If you come up with that perfect moniker that for some reason no one else has picked up on and it fits your work so perfectly it seems like cosmic providence or something, then you will want to go with that. If you want to just go the 'be yourself' route with your work, then you will probably go with your given name. I think an interesting precedent on this issue is Hrvatski/Keith Fullerton Whitman (and possibly Keith's other monikers that I don't even know about). Both projects are good in their own way, but I think the KFW stuff is much more deep and interesting than the Hrvatski stuff, which makes me think he chose to use his given name for the stuff he takes REALLY seriously and that is closest to his heart. Just a guess, but examining the sound work of both Hrvatski and KFW and wondering why he chose to name each as he did would seem to provide some kind of insight on this topic. Greg Elliott (since this is my given name, perhaps you can see why I chose to use a project moniker. perhaps if I'd been named Bernhard Guenter or Francisco Lopez, I would have gone with my real name.) http://spagirus.ivdt.net > > hello .microsounders, > > Recently I've been struggling not with my creative music efforts, but > with how to present them or, i guess, market them. > > I can intuitively feel that there are pro's and con's to presenting my > music under my real name vs a stage name or "band" name, but am having > a hard time articulating them well enough that I can figure out which > route I'd like to go. > > Stuff like this always seems to distract me from the important thing, > which is making good music, so I try not to think too hard about it. > But then I end up with cds full of music and no real idea how to > present them. > > Any ideas on this topic? > > Anthony > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org _____________________________________________________________ Get FREE Email and FREE Websites at http://www.chaosmagic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 20:56:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32210-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27235 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:56:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 27225 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:56:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:56:14 +0200 From: Anton Weiss <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, list I remember reading somewhere once about using Wacom tablet as a midi controller, but I cannot seem to find any app that would allow this. Does anyone know about this? Thanks Ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 21:39:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32211-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37615 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:39:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 37603 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:39:48 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:39:32 +0200 From: jesus gollonet <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller In-reply-to: <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns9.hostinglmi.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jesusgollonet.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi anton. I've googled it up and have found a couple of interesting things µ MIDI Controller (Mac Os X) http://www.musicunfolding.com/ a max external (Mac Os X) http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/~IM/en_telecharger.htm but i'd be really interested in something for Windows as well. anyone knows? Anton Weiss wrote: >Hi, list > >I remember reading somewhere once about using Wacom tablet as a midi >controller, but I cannot seem to find any app that would allow this. >Does anyone know about this? > >Thanks > >Ant > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 21:48:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32212-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40610 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:48:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 40600 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:48:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Thompson <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Experimental Interaction Unit To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qlOb31PcSGZt3L9Ocp0Sig)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qlOb31PcSGZt3L9Ocp0Sig) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is pretty interesting. A group dedicated to changing the way humans and machines interact with one another, in a way that is more natural for both the human and the machine. Its also in New York, which is a definite plus: http://www.eiu.org/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! --Boundary_(ID_qlOb31PcSGZt3L9Ocp0Sig)-- From ???@??? Sun Oct 3 22:27:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32213-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48963 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:27:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 48950 invoked from network); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:27:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:59 +0200 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] vidna obmana & d.o.r. night To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx aufabwegen concert news: 05.10.2004, 20.00h D.O.R. label night --- motion & time --- d.o.r. is a label focussing on dense and atmospheric electronic music that dares to go beyond known limits. the label has brought us music by lull (mick harris), zoviet france, black dog, auntie horror film and more. there is a showcase cd compilation in the september issue of the magazine 'the wire'. live: apollon (headbutt, id) k&a (project d.a.r.k.) nomadstation visuals martin picton kulturbunker muelheim berliner str. 20 51063 cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de ---------------- 07.10.2004, 20.00h V I D N A O B M A N A ::: dark droning ambient ::: & j.frede/david brady/kadet kuhne ::: frequency manipulations, short wave stutter, crashed images ::: kulturbunker muelheim berliner str. 20 51063 cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de ---------------------- 08.10.2004, 20.00h V I D N A O B M A N A ::: dark droning ambient ::: & j.frede/david brady/kadet kuhne ::: frequency manipulations, short wave stutter, crashed images ::: & NJD ::: chaotic free noise improvisations ::: cuba achtermannstr. 12 48143 muenster http://www.geraeuschwelten.de http://www.cuba-cultur.de http://www.aufabwegen.com see you there! ----------------- a u f a b w e g en magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 00:25:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32214-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80627 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:25:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 80616 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:25:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:25:37 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0440-3, 10/01/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? Best, ale*** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 00:40:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32215-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87190 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 87178 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:40:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch In-reply-to: <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I've had good results playing DRM-encoded Windows Media Files with Mplayer or similar, which only supports non-DRM-encoded Windows Media files. The result is beautiful, both sonically and visually. Before accidentally deleting my hard drive, I was going to make a project using a DRM-encoded porn video I downloaded from some p2p network, as it looked and sounded when played with mplayer (or is it VideoLan? one of those open-source media players). There may be some mention of glitching up video on the Yahoo databenders group. I know somebody a while ago was going to write a perl app that would convert an arbitrary data file into video. I think this has been abandoned, but I recall there is some uncommented perl code in the archives that could be hacked by someone else willing to make the effort. P > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a > certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? > Best, > > ale*** > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 01:08:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32216-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96639 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 96629 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:08:20 +0000 From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Jul 19 2004) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ETWJ6YmNnb6+JrSrO8pJIQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated-Sender: dGlvbmxlZUBhdHQubmV0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ETWJ6YmNnb6+JrSrO8pJIQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they look like mego or mille plautux album covers.................instant pimmon art -t -------------- Original message from "ale***" : -------------- > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a > certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? > Best, > > ale*** > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --Boundary_(ID_ETWJ6YmNnb6+JrSrO8pJIQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 01:36:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32217-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5352 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:36:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 5342 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:36:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Interesting topic! I embraced the name Quiet American at the time I did my first field recording compositions with an idea that my raw recordings would be associated with just my name, and compositional work tied to a specific project idea ~ partly because the oft-remarked oxymoronic aspect of the name appealed to my language fetish, and I liked the book and its politics so much; but also because I thought a clean break was nice between what I could take credit for (composing) and just presenting (recordings). I think it's nice to have the option of using different avatars for different kinds of work -- about having work interpreted independent of preconceptions based on a given [un]known name. And of course using different project names avoids (cough) brand dilution when you try something new... Increasingly I find myself in a middle ground where my name (Aaron Ximm) has a (extremely small) public life of its own, though, in relation to all aspects of my work -- which is interesting as in my case it's also a chosen identity of sorts. (Ximm is my wedding anniversary in roman numerals, 10-1-2000, American style with month first). On the other hand I agree that a "bare" name has overtones of humility and directness that is very appealing. And seriousness ~ it's hard to escape too that "real" (ie institutionally recognized) [plastic] artists and composers traditionally just use their names, and rock and roll bands use "cool names." Different traditions the former but ones some of us aspire to, if not professionally or aesthetically, at least in the way the public accords respect to those disciplines (for reasons we needn't argue about! :) ). Timely topic, I've been thinking about how I feel about Ximm growing in respect to QA as a public face as my anniversary just came and went this weekend ~ I found myself thinking, God help me if I should ever get divorced! :) aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 01:52:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32218-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8702 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:52:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 8691 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:52:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:53:50 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] poll is temporarily down To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi the poll is temporarily unavailable. as i suspected, the site was down because of the new hardware. when they rebuilt the system, some software libraries used by the poll code were missing. i have requested that they get restored. once they are, and the poll is operational, i will notify the list. -- \js ("'?\~`^$ <%=/~]- &{http://or8.net/~johns %_= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 02:35:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32219-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21062 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:35:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 21051 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:35:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:34:49 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... X-Originating-IP: [81.79.83.132] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2004 02:35:01.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFC18B00:01C4A9BA] I would always lean toward using real names, and even calling all tracks 'untitled'. If an artist uses his or her real name (or a pseudonym which sounds plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery attatched to their compositions. This frees the listener to experience the full piece unfiltered and uncompromised, and then contextualise it themselves. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 03:00:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32220-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27399 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:00:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 27389 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:00:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:59:53 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via spameater01-23.dimenocmail.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(66.195.19.43):SA:0(-3.6/3.0):. Processed in 20.403982 secs Process 19546) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I feel it is best to use your real name. When I see a CD with someone's actual name listed on it, I get a different set of expectations than if I see a CD with a name like "Bubbleotron" or "Rock Rock On" or whatever on it. I feel like I am more likely to be moved artistically and intellectually rather than just entertained. That said, I just bought two CDs today by the artists "Tan As Fuck" and "U Can Unlearn Guitar"... If you're going to have a pseudonym, make sure its one that's good! The only time I use a pseudonym (usually "Professor Ultimate") is when I release nonsense that I do not want related to my main body of work. - John On Oct 3, 2004, at 10:34 PM, bil bo wrote: > I would always lean toward using real names, and even calling all > tracks 'untitled'. > > If an artist uses his or her real name (or a pseudonym which sounds > plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery attatched to their > compositions. This frees the listener to experience the full piece > unfiltered and uncompromised, and then contextualise it themselves. > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Oct 4 04:02:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32221-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43101 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 04:02:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 43091 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 04:02:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:01:41 -0700 From: roberth <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009601c4a9c6$f6e79f50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx interesting topic. people make good points on both sides. in terms of my listening i buy music by folks who use project or group names and their real names. i have released music under project names and my own. but these days my solo stuff is under my own name and collaborations mostly under project names. if the poetics of the project name fits the music i love that. if it doesn't well i will still buy it but one example that matches the music for me is six organs of admittance one that doesn't is jackie o mutherfucker neither is the microsound realm r ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Ximm" <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... > Interesting topic! > > I embraced the name Quiet American at the time I did my first field > recording compositions with an idea that my raw recordings would be > associated with just my name, and compositional work tied to a specific > project idea ~ partly because the oft-remarked oxymoronic aspect of the > name appealed to my language fetish, and I liked the book and its politics > so much; but also because I thought a clean break was nice between what I > could take credit for (composing) and just presenting (recordings). > > I think it's nice to have the option of using different avatars for > different kinds of work -- about having work interpreted independent of > preconceptions based on a given [un]known name. And of course using > different project names avoids (cough) brand dilution when you try > something new... > > Increasingly I find myself in a middle ground where my name (Aaron Ximm) > has a (extremely small) public life of its own, though, in relation to all > aspects of my work -- which is interesting as in my case it's also a > chosen identity of sorts. (Ximm is my wedding anniversary in roman > numerals, 10-1-2000, American style with month first). > > On the other hand I agree that a "bare" name has overtones of humility and > directness that is very appealing. And seriousness ~ it's hard to escape > too that "real" (ie institutionally recognized) [plastic] artists and > composers traditionally just use their names, and rock and roll bands use > "cool names." Different traditions the former but ones some of us aspire > to, if not professionally or aesthetically, at least in the way the public > accords respect to those disciplines (for reasons we needn't argue about! > :) ). > > Timely topic, I've been thinking about how I feel about Ximm growing in > respect to QA as a public face as my anniversary just came and went this > weekend ~ I found myself thinking, God help me if I should ever get > divorced! :) > > aaron > > xxxxx@xxxx.xxx > http://www.quietamerican.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 06:39:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32222-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76697 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:39:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 76687 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:39:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx those bladerunner stills are beautiful! i have had some nice results playing highly-compressed divx videos. this is speculation, but i think that since the compression is largely based on similarity between frames (ie, not storing redundant information from frame to frame), if i skip around between scenes i get these strange, chunky, moving ghosts. i've done this in mplayer and quicktime. tony at beflix.com has some lovely video glitches from various sources. -jake --- Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I've had good results playing DRM-encoded Windows > Media Files with Mplayer > or similar, which only supports non-DRM-encoded > Windows Media files. The > result is beautiful, both sonically and visually. > Before accidentally > deleting my hard drive, I was going to make a > project using a DRM-encoded > porn video I downloaded from some p2p network, as it > looked and sounded > when played with mplayer (or is it VideoLan? one of > those open-source > media players). > > There may be some mention of glitching up video on > the Yahoo databenders > group. I know somebody a while ago was going to > write a perl app that > would convert an arbitrary data file into video. I > think this has been > abandoned, but I recall there is some uncommented > perl code in the > archives that could be hacked by someone else > willing to make the effort. > > P > > > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of > Blade Runner, when, at a > > certain point the video started skipping and > glitching producing some > > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I > uploaded them without any > > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > > > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > > Can you guys point me toward some good articles > about video glitching, > > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted > video streams? > > Best, > > > > ale*** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 06:50:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32223-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79192 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:50:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 79180 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 06:50:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:49:52 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Experimental Interaction Unit In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I found this quite ironic: http://eiu.org/experiments/i-bomb/info.html Considering they're using technology to stop people using technology. And it only stops people taking electronic technology into the Technology Free Zone. I could go and stand in the 'TFZ' with a trumpet blaring out a cacophony of deafening sounds, thus preventing direct human-human interaction... These exhibits seem quite pessimistic, but interesting nevertheless. On 3 Oct 2004, at 22:48, Andrew Thompson wrote: > This is pretty interesting. A group dedicated to changing the way > humans and machines interact with one another, in a way that is more > natural for both the human and the machine. Its also in New York, > which is a definite plus: > http://www.eiu.org/ -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org/ music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 09:47:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32224-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 05:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 05:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73925 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:47:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 73911 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:47:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:47:46 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joakim_Lind=E9n?= <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001d01c4a9f7$37db1f20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > if i skip around between scenes > i get these strange, chunky, moving ghosts. i've done > this in mplayer and quicktime. Oh yes, DivX/XviD encoded movies (and even some liv streaming Real Video) that I guess have some errors in them can produce very strange things like faces that morphs into other objects or melts - sometimes over several seconds. But I guess it's very hard to make these errors behave predictable. I have tried this once or twice, like overloading the CPU while encoding a clip or simply open the video file in a hex editor and change a few values here and there. Either I saw nothing or the clip stopped working... : ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 12:01:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32225-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 227 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:01:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 217 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:01:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 13:58:54 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bil bo thinks; > If an artist uses his or her real name (or a pseudonym which sounds > plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery attatched to their > compositions. This frees the listener to experience the full piece > unfiltered and uncompromised, and then contextualise it themselves. For a first release and as compared to chosen names I certainly agree, but surely this stops being true after the first few releases? For example; I´m currently trying to finish a record. Once this hits the shops some people will see it and asume it deals with a greay area between minimal techno and soundtrack like material as my previously released material fell in that field. There might be some who will hope it drifts in a more disco like area as they might have heard I tend to engineer and produce for artists in that field. At some point they´ll find it deals with purely synthetic experiments that sound like strange acoustic instruments with strongly conceptual composition methods. I think that in all fairness we (or at least I) have to admit some of them might very well be disapointed. From your perspective it would make sense to go with some different name. However, I´m insisting on using my real name because I feel this material is quite personal and I wish to identify it as a comunication from me personally to my listener (asuming I have one) and by extention the world. A bit like you wouldn´t sign love letters, contracts or confessions with a asumed name, it´d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed one. At least that´s how i feel. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 12:32:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32226-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8987 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:31:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 8977 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:31:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:32:31 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx jake elliott wrote: > those bladerunner stills are beautiful! > > i have had some nice results playing highly-compressed > divx videos. this is speculation, but i think that > since the compression is largely based on similarity > between frames (ie, not storing redundant information > from frame to frame), if i skip around between scenes > i get these strange, chunky, moving ghosts. That is right, destructive videocompression is based on storing keyframes and deltas. Try to skip/play backwards. I read a long while ago of a videoplugin which could create this artefacts in realtime and rather controllable but the name and source slipped me. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next events: Elektronengehirn concert: 09.10. Astrastube, Hamburg, Germany concert + DJ set with Xyramat: 10.10. Schilleroper, Hamburg, Germany pure-data workshop 18.10-22.10 vivid, Birmingham, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 14:16:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32228-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32059 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:16:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 32049 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:16:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Verlorene_Ursache <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] bladerunner stills, gl!tches To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx allo, i have seemed to lost link in my hastily early morning clearing of inbox. could somebody pls send it to me offlist pls. ty. d. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mon Oct 4 14:19:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32229-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34792 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 34782 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:19:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:33:59 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210604bd870f78f4af@[64.63.223.32]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For a first release and as compared to chosen names I certainly agree, but >surely this stops being true after the first few releases? i agree with that - once a namre has been floating around, no matter what it is, people make an association. this is in fact the point of a brand name / trademark / service mark. >However, I¥m insisting on using my real name >because I feel this material is quite personal and I wish to identify it as >a comunication from me personally to my listener (asuming I have one) and by >extention the world. A bit like you wouldn¥t sign love letters, contracts or >confessions with a asumed name, it¥d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed >one. yes, but not everyone has as cool a name as kassen! ; ) d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 15:01:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32231-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49642 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:01:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 49632 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:01:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:36:56 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c4aa1f$9a8daa20$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <000b01c4aa09$87aff5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <p05210604bd870f78f4af@[64.63.223.32]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx chthonic streams writes; > >For a first release and as compared to chosen names I certainly agree, but > >surely this stops being true after the first few releases? > > i agree with that - once a namre has been floating around, no matter > what it is, people make an association. this is in fact the point of > a brand name / trademark / service mark. Indeed. One thing I´ve been wondering about is why Panacea choose to use his d&b on name his "Brazilia" cd on the Architectura series. It sounds exactly like his M² work and I don´t imagine people into that post digital stuff see his rather brutal and straightforward d&b work as a recomendation. My guess is that it was the label´s choice because the Panacea name is much better known. That too is a factor, I fear. It´s not a factor that´s comfortable to admid and preferably it wouldn´t be there but it is and if you want to sell some records you might need to take that stuff into account. > yes, but not everyone has as cool a name as kassen! ; ) But I payed for it. It´s cool now, but having a name nobody ever heard is less fun when you´re a kid. The other kids will look baffled for a second, then look for the closest word they do know and schream that repeatedly on top of the lungs. I never understood why but they do. Pros and cons, I suppose, but when the cons are in the past it´s all fine. Thanks. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 14:54:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32230-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46617 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:54:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 46607 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:54:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 07:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Hostbaby Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I agree with the notion that a project name gives a focus to the music rather than the personality of the performer, but I think one should just do what feels right. I've already run into problems with the Archive moniker, which I use for composed works while keeping my real name for installations, field recordings, etc-- it's been the subject of some confusion recently. Despite a very specific press kit, a weekly paper recently ran a full-page article about my new Archive cd, but wrote about it as if I'd released it under my own name, and the same thing happened with a radio feature a couple of weeks later (no mention of the word "Archive" in either piece). I guess another thing to keep in mind is that often one doesn't have the control over one's nomenclature anyway... press is press though. I imagine the word "archive" might be confusing for people. mike hallenbeck [ a r c h i v e ] http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 14:07:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32227-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28805 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:07:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 28795 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:07:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:07:50 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Invitation To: List Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005801c4aa23$ea8f8cb0$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_74Y+4OIEsLMYO5Zw+ooL7w)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_74Y+4OIEsLMYO5Zw+ooL7w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've been assigned to make a "sound-cinema" during a month long kultural festival and would like to present some "advanced sounds". People will be able to listen to the music/noise/ambient/soundart through approximately 20 pairs of headphones (all of which are playing the same track) in a smaller box, built for the occasion. The box is on wheels, can seat approx. 20 people and plays CD/DVD/VHS, which means, if you have liveshows or "musicvideos" it is possible to have them screened. If you're interested send material to me, use adress below. deadline is 10/10 -2004. I do realize this is next sunday, but i'm not asking for specially composed material, merely great stuff from the drawers... And if you're considering to send something, please drop me a line OFFLIST, using xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx, so i know something will be in the mail. And please note: only beat-less material will be taken in consideration. Regards Lars // Noisejihad. 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Mon Oct 4 15:40:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32232-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71475 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:40:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 71464 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:40:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:42:06 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] poll is back up To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi the poll is operational again. -- \js '} $@')>=|#http://or8.net/~johns ?' ; " :// --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:29:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32237-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98955 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:29:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 98944 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:29:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:05:15 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx chthonic writes; > i read an interview with paul lemos of controlled bleeding and he > basically uses the name as, whatever he wants to do, he does it > under that name. they've been so many things over the years, from > the ebm stuff on waxtrax! to dark ambient on soleilmoon to flat-out > noise on their own label. his opinion is, without the name, he has > nothing to draw people in with. Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost identical crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the others. Panacea´s fan base is probably quite different from m²´s fanbase on the other hand. I agree that you can always put your real name on anything you do like Paul does as it´s always him, but Panacea has come to mean "hard d&b with heavy basslines". > true, but americans probably won't make such associations. > since i have past associations with european names, i think > aesthetically "kassen" sounds good, whatever it means. the > closest english written word would be some variation on > "cassette", which is not a bad association for a musician. I was told by my parents it´s ancient german for "big strong man" but never was able to verify that. It would not have been unlike them to make something like that up and be done with it and since they pased away we might never know. I suppose it´s meaning depends on me now, just like the meaning of "chthonic" in this context depends on you. > > is any of your music online? http://kassen.mine.nu/tracks/index.html Mostly relatively old and more techno inspired then what I do these days. http://kassen.mine.nu/tracks/Kassen_Now.mp3 Is perhaps the most microsoundy thing there. It´s a remix of a local hardcore band who rejected it as it´s not hardcore in the slightest and just loops the guitar bit. Never do remixes without vocals if the vocalist in question manages the label that wants it. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:09:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32235-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83364 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:09:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 83352 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:09:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:09:28 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001901c4aa2c$89925c90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hoqz47m1TKidoFAcEYZCXg)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_hoqz47m1TKidoFAcEYZCXg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about "Various Artists" then ? S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] I imagine the word "archive" might be confusing for people. mike hallenbeck [ a r c h i v e ] http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --Boundary_(ID_hoqz47m1TKidoFAcEYZCXg)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:42:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32239-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6937 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 6924 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:18:16 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003f01c4aa2d$c444a5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx bil bo, reacting to me; > >A bit like you wouldn´t sign love letters, contracts or > >confessions with a asumed name, it´d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed > >one. > > An assumed name? All names are assumed- it is the very nature of language. > A pseudonym would be just as valid / self-representative as the name chosen > for you by your parents (or more so, as you would choose it yourself) Let me rephrase that then as I agree on a conceptual level. It would feel wrong to me to sign love letters or confessions with a name chosen by me. Contracts and the people that want you to sign them tend not to think such concerns matter and will demand your birth name. While I agree with you on a conceptual level, I also think there is a lot to be said for uniquely identifying names. For example, I imagine that if i were to start posting from mailto:xxx_xx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx this would displease you and confuse others. I shouldn´t be alowed to buy houses claiming to be Bill Gates either. More to the point here I´d by quite upset if the new album marked Aphex Twin turned out to be by a local blues band as I´d buy new Aphex albums on sight. Semantics and their theory are great but in my own experience they can´t be aplied to the real world withput some comon sense without running into trouble. Yours, $NAME. :¬) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:21:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32236-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91524 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:21:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 91514 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:21:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:20:27 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... X-Originating-IP: [81.79.83.132] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2004 16:21:04.0657 (UTC) FILETIME=[25709810:01C4AA2E] >A bit like you wouldn´t sign love letters, contracts or >confessions with a asumed name, it´d feel wrong to sign this with a asumed >one. An assumed name? All names are assumed- it is the very nature of language. A pseudonym would be just as valid / self-representative as the name chosen for you by your parents (or more so, as you would choose it yourself) _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 16:40:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32238-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5769 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:40:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 5759 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:40:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 09:41:26 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> i read an interview with paul lemos of controlled bleeding and he >> basically uses the name as, whatever he wants to do, he does it >> under that name. they've been so many things over the years, from >> the ebm stuff on waxtrax! to dark ambient on soleilmoon to flat-out >> noise on their own label. his opinion is, without the name, he has >> nothing to draw people in with. >Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost identical >crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the others. then you are lucky to know some semi-open-minded people. there are plenty of people i know who never cross between noise and ebm. one thinks the other is childish, silly dance junk and the other thinks the one is unlistenable and fascist . >Panacea´s fan base is probably quite different from m2´s fanbase on the >other hand. i don't see how the music between those two projects is more different than the difference between the genres we talked about above. i can't recall panacea, while i did once own an m2 album, but to me they are both electronica/idm of some kind. i may like one or the other, but not because of subgenre distinctions. but i may be one of those people like the friends you describe. >I suppose it´s meaning depends on me now, just like the >meaning of "chthonic" in this context depends on you. it just means underground or subterranean. anything beyond that is whatever context one decides to associate with it. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:02:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32240-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63646 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:02:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 63631 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:02:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Polta <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have found, and some that I've talked to feel the same way, that using a "fake" name, either the same one all the time or differenet names for different styles, afords a kind of freedom in creation. My personal problem (and, yes, I'm working on it!) is falling into stylistic ruts, becoming repetitious, getting hung up trying to reconcile new directions with my "body of work", etc. Like costumes or roll play, pseudonyms allow (if not encourage) an escape from oneself into something else, where (potentially) one could be free from the pressures of expectations, free to venture into new areas. Other people have different reasons, sure. --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > I feel it is best to use your real name. When I see > a CD with someone's > actual name listed on it, I get a different set of > expectations than if > I see a CD with a name like "Bubbleotron" or "Rock > Rock On" or whatever > on it. I feel like I am more likely to be moved > artistically and > intellectually rather than just entertained. > > That said, I just bought two CDs today by the > artists "Tan As Fuck" and > "U Can Unlearn Guitar"... If you're going to have a > pseudonym, make > sure its one that's good! > > The only time I use a pseudonym (usually "Professor > Ultimate") is when > I release nonsense that I do not want related to my > main body of work. > > - John > > On Oct 3, 2004, at 10:34 PM, bil bo wrote: > > > I would always lean toward using real names, and > even calling all > > tracks 'untitled'. > > > > If an artist uses his or her real name (or a > pseudonym which sounds > > plausibly 'real') then there is no preset imagery > attatched to their > > compositions. This frees the listener to > experience the full piece > > unfiltered and uncompromised, and then > contextualise it themselves. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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Mon Oct 4 21:04:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32246-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17872 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:04:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 17858 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:03:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:01:06 +0200 From: bastien remion <xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Playlist "electrons libres-Futur (re)mix" To: Forum <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: YAM 2.4p1 [020] AmigaOS E-mail Client (c) 2000-2003 by YAM Open Source Team - http://www.yam.ch/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello everybody all the microsounder's...Como allez-vous??? 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SEE YA NEXT WEEK !!! -----------------------------FUTUR (re)MIX-------------- ------------POWERPLAY--------------------------13h/16h---------- ----------------------------04/10/04----------------------------- Check the Playlist and all good and hot guide Clubbing/Concert @ http://www.radiobeton.com Part1: RatataBACK...This is for reel...This is : THE BRAIN ( Funny Thinks , Funny Groovy ) http://thebrain.lautre.net Part2: 1-Mocky: Mickey Mouse Motherfucka (Four Music, V2) -Lp "Are+Be" 2-Moodymann: Forevernevermore (Peacefrog) -Lp "Forevernevermore" 3-Carol Williams: Can't get away (Sonar Kollectiv) -V/A "Jazzanova mixing" 4-Rednose Distrikt: NY Boom (Kindred Spirits, Rush Hour) -Lp "Iller Dan Je Ouders" 5-Domu:Fun no more (Loungin' recordings) -Ep "Worldwide" 6-Matthew Dear: Takes on you (Spectral, Ghostly) -Lp "Backstroke" 7-Substance: Monobox remix vol3 (Logistic) -Ep "Monobox remix 03" 8-Martini Bros: Pumpkin Jam mix (Karmarouge 08) -Ep "Vegetable remix vol1" 9-Brooks: Burning Buxx (Soundslike, Discograph) -Lp "Red Tape" release this week!!! ***************************************************** ----------------------ARNO N'JOY Mix------------------------ -------------Son emission N'joy sera sur Béton 1semaine/2--------- -------------All Wenesdays @ 20h/21h------------------------ 1-Metro Area:Nerves (Environ 019) 2-Franz Ferdinand:Take me out [Morgan Geist remix] 3-Metro Area:Caught up (Environ) 4-Ralph Myers:Casino [Riton re-dub] (Emperor Norton) 5-Justin Martin:Sad Piano [Charles Webster mix] (Buzzin Fly 04) 6-Dirt Crew:Check this out (My Best Friend 05) 7-Chez Damier:You feel it (KMS 035) 8-Fred Everything: Close to you ft Juday Singer (20/20 vision 105) 9-Seelenluft:You come along (Klein 051) 10-Scissor Sisters:Comfortably Numb [Paper Faces remix] (Az) 11-Miss Kittin: Requiem for a hit (Abe Duque remix) (Labels) 12-Nutone:Breathless (Hospital 067) 13-Omni Trio:Time (Scale records 02) Heee ya.... Happyness all and "see the Sun" Bye!!! ----------------------------***--//---]]]-[------------------- Radio Béton 93.6/electrons libres all monday 17h-18h /The Brain 13h-14h /Future (re)Mix monday 14h-15h30 90 avenue Maginot 37100 Tours tèl:0247510383 http://www.radiobeton.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:21:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32241-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73649 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:21:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 73639 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:21:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:21:18 +0200 From: ale*** <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] bladerunner stills, gl!tches To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <010f01c4aa47$54a4c160$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0441-0, 10/04/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html ale*** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Verlorene_Ursache" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: [microsound] bladerunner stills, gl!tches > allo, > > i have seemed to lost link in my hastily early morning > clearing of inbox. could somebody pls send it to me > offlist pls. ty. > > d. > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:50:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32242-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91661 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:50:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 91649 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:50:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:47:37 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4aa4b$006d03b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <003f01c4aa2d$c444a5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Semantics and their theory are great but in my own experience they can´t be > aplied to the real world withput some comon sense without running into > trouble. they could be, if we all would agree on doing so... it's only because most people are not willing to go beyond what they learned in primary school.... that said, i am running into trouble all the time, when "personalising" language in conversation... pope myself 3. °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 19:55:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32243-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93809 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:55:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 93799 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:55:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:55:13 +0100 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00ae01c4aa4c$1036a6b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx another aspect (that may have been mentioned - sorry, i've come late to this thread) is anonimity. i originally chose to record under a 'project' name as i didn't see attaching my name/ego directly to the music i was making as important or helpful, the same way i choose not to put a picture of myself on a record sleeve. of course, any assumed name becomes as much a reference to an individual as his/her given name, but that extra step of removal was appealing to me - helping tocreate an element of 'it doesn't matter who i am, only what i've made.' patrick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 20:35:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32244-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7357 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 7342 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:24 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:35:14 +0200 From: Anton Weiss <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00ce01c4aa51$a7c70f10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well, yes, I should've mentioned that I was looking for a Windows utility. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 20:42:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32245-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10016 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:42:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 10005 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:42:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:42:51 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Blog on new recording media and more To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <018b01c4aa52$b75aadf0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <003f01c4aa2d$c444a5e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <000f01c4aa4b$006d03b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://whatcaughtmyeye.blogspot.com/ /björn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 21:15:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32247-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24113 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:15:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 24045 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:15:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] TOP10-PLAYLIST: Blevin Blectum, Ema de Angelis, ENT, Glass Box, MB, Miba, Omb... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2IeSUgHFf8ELjigLoLAtCQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2IeSUgHFf8ELjigLoLAtCQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, A new streamable top 10 playlist is available _here_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr/topten.htm) at _XStreamRadioWebcast_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr/) ! In no particular order, except alphabetical order: + Artist : Blevin Blectum (United States) Title : Last Track (Magic Maple) Label : Praemedia (United States) Artist : Emanuela de Angelis (Italy) Title : Contours (MP3 Release) Label : EdA (Italy) Artist : ENT (Italy) Title : Beating Cherry Nipples (Fuck Work) Label : (Not released yet) Artist : Glass Box (United States) Title : Spaceprobe V3.1 (10+11) (Spaceprobe V3.1) Label : Umamidisc (United States) Artist : Maurizio Bianchi (Italy) Title : A-Cycle (Kookogaku) (Cycles) Label : EEs'T (Italy) Artist : Miba (United States) Title : Until Something Bigger... (The Corplate Porblem) Label : Pax Recordings (United States) Artist : Omb (Japan) Title : (006) (Oral/Method) Label : Flyrec (Japan) Artist : PEI (Taiwan) Title : Nois-5into (Ipatti) Label : Post-Concrete (USA/Taiwan/China) Artist : Resina (Italy) Title : Mundo Taku (Opinio Omnium) Label : Mousikelab (Italy) Artist : Yasushi Miura (Japan) Title : (2) (Spin 5930) Label : Karidome (Japan) + Blevin Blectum: "Magic Maple" is the 3rd solo release by Blevin Blectum (formerly of Blectum From Blechdom and currently a member of Sagan). This album picks up where the acclaimed "Talon Slalom" left off. Prog-rock fantasy gone wrong in a purely audio medium. Emanuela de Angelis: Emanuela de Angelis (formerly of Mou, Lips!) has recently started a solo project under her own name. Her music, which materializes into dark electronic ambient drones, is like a poetic and cinematic exploration into obscure territories. Emanuela is currently working on a new webmagazine, bit_per_knowledge, whose first issue will come out soon. She also contributed to the recent "Sonic Scope : Portable Edition" compilation cd, published by Grain of Sound. ENT: ENT is an italian duo formed by Emanuele Bortoluzzi and Michele Scariot. Their music, which is made with electronic, acoustic and electric instruments, could be described as a magical encounter between glitch pop and free improvisation. Their latest demo-cd called "Fuck Work" is a great mix of many different elements of sound fused together and structured in a very progressive way. Glass Box: Since 1988, Glass Box writes and performs experimental music utilizing conventional as well as homemade instruments, found sounds, tape manipulation and any other manner of sound conveyance to produce their pieces. Ambient, electro-acoustic, spoken word, noise/drone are the key words behind these enigmatic artists. Maurizio Bianchi: Maurizio Bianchi (aka MB) has been a key figure in the development of experimental electronic music since the late 80's; he is considered as a pioneer in the noise and industrial music genre. After a long hiatus of almost 14 years, Bianchi returned to music in 1998, starting a series of works dominated by religious and philosophical themes. "Cycles", one of his latest records to date, is a combination of hypnotic and ambient loops. Miba: Miba is Mark Bartscher and Kristin Miltner, from San Francisco. They make music with bells, voices, computers, trees, self-created software patches, birds and cats, creating rhythmic granular textures ranging from harmonic washes to dense noise, hypnotized by the spirits of Pauline Oliveros, Maggi Payne, and Alvin Curran. Omb: Equally utlizing complex computer progamming and unintentional mistakes, Omb creates everchanging cute and emotional tracks. Clicks, error noises, sine waves, transformed samples and field recordings intertwine and separate, while minimal electronic phrases provide uplifting melodies. PEI: Encompassing everything from microsound to digital noise, the music of PEI is a dizzying kaleidoscope of experimental electronica. Despite being from Taipei, PEI composed the most part of her first full-length "Ipatti" during a residency in Sydney, Australia. Resina: Resina is the result of the meeting between Marco Messina and Retina.It. Their sound, though essentially electronic, has an analogic soul, with a dirty and lively approach in making their tracks. Intelligent dance music supported by obsessive and hypnotic rhythms, with echoes of tribal mantras coming out. Yasushi Miura: Yasushi Miura comes from Tokyo and self-release his records on his own Karidome label. His music is a nervous, joyful, and playful deviant techno with loads of things happening everywhere, all set against a pounding beat. + Credits for texts: _http://blevin.lsr1.com/pressMaple.html_ (http://blevin.lsr1.com/pressMaple.html) _http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/glassbox.htm_ (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/glassbox.htm) _http://www.scaruffi.com/avant/bianchi.html_ (http://www.scaruffi.com/avant/bianchi.html) _http://www.flyrec.com/en/release/oral.html_ (http://www.flyrec.com/en/release/oral.html) _http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70312080834132336&sql=Anr 7m96bokep8_ (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70312080834132336&sql=Anr7m96bokep8) _http://www.staalplaat.com/vital_archive/422.txt_ (http://www.staalplaat.com/vital_archive/422.txt) _http://www.mousikelab.it/resinaenglish.htm_ (http://www.mousikelab.it/resinaenglish.htm) + Thank you, [ _http://xstreamradio.free.fr_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr) ] [ Now playing: Experimental and Electronic music ] --Boundary_(ID_2IeSUgHFf8ELjigLoLAtCQ)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:19:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32253-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90823 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:19:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 90809 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:19:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:36:24 +1300 From: Niklas Werner <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <200410051036.25062.xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: KMail/1.7 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:05, Kassen wrote: > I was told by my parents it´s ancient german for "big strong man" but > never was able to verify that. It would not have been unlike them to > make something like that up and be done with it and since they pased > away we might never know. I don't want to dissapoint you, but basically "Kassen" is the plural of "Kasse" in German which means checkout/till/cash box. Cheers, Niklas -- Computer Music PhD-student University of Waikato Hamilton New Zealand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 21:46:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32248-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44041 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:46:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 44025 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:46:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:47:41 -0400 From: Mark Laliberte <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Thinkbox concert on CBC: BNW / Oct 08 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.marklaliberte.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a0611042bbd8774ae9d8d@[131.104.216.71]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_AHjp3TydxU+x2wBL6VRBfg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 2.63 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on moe.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_AHjp3TydxU+x2wBL6VRBfg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (MICROSOUNDERS: one last chance at hearing our Mutek gig, in case you missed it! ) THINKBOX on BRAVE NEW WAVES: CBC Radio Two 00h05 - 04h00 Broadcast date: October 8th, 2004 ....presentation of concert performance from Mutek, North America's premier experimental electronic music festival ....recorded Jun 2004 at S.A.T. in Montreal ( http://www.sat.qc.ca ) ....performing order: 1- Mark Laliberte; 2- Christopher Bissonnette; 3- Rob Theakston; 4- Bill Van Loo; 5- Steve Roy; 6- Chris McNamara; 7- Thinkbox (collective improv). ABOUT THINKBOX | http://www.thinkbox.ca Founded at the end of the 1990s, Thinkbox is a multimedia collective whose interests lie in the exploration and the development of the new modalities of audiovisual diffusion in the context of live performances. The collective is comprised of six members who reside on both sides of the Canadian-American border, dividing their time between Windsor and Detroit. Thinkbox was recently selected as one of URB Magazine's "Next 100 Artists for 2004". Collective and/or solo member performances have occurred in the past year at the following venues and festivals: Movement (Detroit's Electronic Music Festival), USA / Cranbrook Museum of Art, USA / New Maps Festival, Montreal / Deep Wireless Festival, Toronto / Vancouver New Music's Dangerous Currents Festival / and The Ann Arbor Film Festival, USA. ABOUT THINKBOX @ MUTEK 2004 | http://www.mutek.ca While they remain a close-knit group, Thinkbox appreciates diversity. With the free reign given to them by MUTEK, the collective presented a series of solo performances that culminated with a full ensemble collaboration. Their presentation strategies vary: certain pieces were microtonal in nature, others more cinematographically and musically oriented, while others revolved around electro-acoustic structures built upon field-recording passages, generating minimalist moments throughout a powerful, definitive rhythm. The results combined the cerebral, the visceral, the organic and the power of digital. For images of T/B @ the festival, see... http://www.thinkbox.ca/events/2004-mutek/ ABOUT BRAVE NEW WAVES | http://www.bravenewwaves.ca BNW is dedicated to new underground music. This could mean anything from indie rock to dance, experimental electronic and avantgardisms of every shape. We include the widest universe of genres possible every single night. The essential rhythm of BNW includes profiles (extended discography/ biography), interviews (filmmakers, composers, cartoonists, bands, regional correspondents), and occasionally our own BNW sessions. BNW can be heard across Canada, or live on the internet.... for information on various streams (Real Player, etc), please see: http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/audio.shtml --Boundary_(ID_AHjp3TydxU+x2wBL6VRBfg)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:12:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32249-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82776 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:12:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 82692 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:12:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:05:55 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Kassen wrote: > chthonic writes; > >> i read an interview with paul lemos of controlled bleeding and he >> basically uses the name as, whatever he wants to do, he does it >> under that name. they've been so many things over the years, from >> the ebm stuff on waxtrax! to dark ambient on soleilmoon to flat-out >> noise on their own label. his opinion is, without the name, he has >> nothing to draw people in with. > > Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost identical > crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the > others. So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! I am insulted. - John Nowak --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:34:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32254-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97114 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:34:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 97102 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:34:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:09:47 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002a01c4aa67$3fdfc700$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx John Nowak complains; > So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! > > I am insulted. Feel free to feel insulted if you want to be, but I did not write that. I said that the people I know that like one of those styles also like the others. This implies a strong correlation (at least from my own coloured perspective), not that they will like any speciffic artist in those styles. In fact they´ll dislike many artists in those styles and of other composers like only specific albums or even tracks. By extention I think that those styles have some overlap in which it´s debatable what field any speciffic recording falls into. At least I think there is more overlap between those styles and hard d&b v.s. post digital clicky experiments but clearly that opinion is not shared by all. I wouldn´t have been insulted if somebody had claimed what you preceived me to claim, merely surprised. Luckily I did not claim this. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:14:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32250-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84896 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:14:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 84883 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:14:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:14:11 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kakxe18vYnlfo2TvdctYZw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_kakxe18vYnlfo2TvdctYZw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/10/2004 00:12:23 GMT Daylight Time, xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes: > So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! > > I am insulted. > the term "noise" in the us doesnt mean noise, it has tended to mean bad disco with distorted beats and angry pointless vocals. "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.alembic.me.uk --Boundary_(ID_kakxe18vYnlfo2TvdctYZw)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:39:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32255-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1409 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:39:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 1396 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:39:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:14:47 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002f01c4aa67$f2a6fd40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <200410051036.25062.xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Niklas Werner notes, reacting to me; > > > I was told by my parents its ancient german for "big strong man" but > > never was able to verify that. It would not have been unlike them to > > make something like that up and be done with it and since they pased > > away we might never know. > > I don't want to dissapoint you, but basically "Kassen" is the plural of > "Kasse" in German which means checkout/till/cash box. I knew that, I saw what companies were competing with me for the top spot in google for that search. Presumably ancient German, as opposed to modern German, did not deal with cash registers so I still have some hope. Aparently it´s also Swedish for "small plastic bag" or something along those lines and it´s Dutch for "greenhouses". I´ll live. Cheers, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:17:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32251-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87842 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:17:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 87817 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:17:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:17:14 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:05 PM, John Nowak wrote: >> >> Makes sense, but ebm, dark ambient and noise will have almost >> identical >> crowds. everybody I know that´s into one of those is also into the >> others. > > So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! > > I am insulted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 4 23:18:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32252-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89755 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:18:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 89744 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:18:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:18:23 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130306bd878a7dad13@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >angry pointless vocals. -So nothing has changed actually... 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Tue Oct 5 00:00:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32256-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9230 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:59:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 9219 invoked from network); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:59:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:59:46 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] genre names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 19:14:11 EDT >--part1_45.17b36f1d.2e933343_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >In a message dated 05/10/2004 00:12:23 GMT Daylight Time, xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >writes: > >> So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! >> >> I am insulted. >> > > the term "noise" in the us doesnt mean noise, it has tended to mean bad >disco with distorted beats and angry pointless vocals. no, you'ere thinking of "industrial". here, "noise" means "noise". u.s. industrial (read: ebm) people know what noise is, they just don't necessarily like it. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:24:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32259-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20173 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:24:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 20163 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:24:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:01:36 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:14 PM, xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > In a message dated 05/10/2004 00:12:23 GMT Daylight Time, > xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > writes: > >> So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! >> >> I am insulted. >> > > the term "noise" in the us doesnt mean noise, it has tended to mean > bad > disco with distorted beats and angry pointless vocals. I live in the US, and I've never heard the term "noise" used to describe any sort of distorted beats nonsense. Usually that has a stupid name like "noisecore" or "breakcore" or something else with "core". - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:09:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32258-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13506 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 13433 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:02:46 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? - John On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, > idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, > and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:09:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32257-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13126 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 13116 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:09:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:04:39 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <002a01c4aa67$3fdfc700$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <002a01c4aa67$3fdfc700$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:09 PM, Kassen wrote: > John Nowak complains; > >> So all Merzbow aficionados love Wumpscut? Christ, spare me! >> >> I am insulted. > > Feel free to feel insulted if you want to be, but I did not write that. I was just interjecting a bit of nonsense. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:35:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32260-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25004 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:35:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 24994 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:35:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:36:18 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:02:46 -0400 >There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? well, i don't think he meant that per se; more of a series of overlaps that could eventually link the tastes of people who like those styles. but yes, i have both senking and morbid angel in my collection. i can't say there's much jungle or gabber i like, unless you count kid606 and aphex twin. d. >On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > >> Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >> idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, >> and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:50:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32261-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33146 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:49:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 33136 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:49:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:50:36 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -core To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >I live in the US, and I've never heard the term "noise" used to >describe any sort of distorted beats nonsense. Usually that has a >stupid name like "noisecore" or "breakcore" or something else with >"core". i hear the term "rhythmic noise" applied to artists on ant-zen and the like. "breakcore" tends to be a bit less harsh/noisy than those artists. i know it's kinds of splitting hairs but there is a difference of both sound and intent between these artists, whether you like their music or not. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 00:51:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32262-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34541 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:51:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 34531 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:51:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:50:56 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yup, like myself. I picked a variety of genres, where a fan of one is likely to enjoy another, but that there would be other genres that the overlap is less likely. Lots of harsh noise fans like gabber, jungle, death metal and industrial. Lots of noise fans also love microsound, ambient, and idm. On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:02 PM, John Nowak wrote: > There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? > > - John > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > >> Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >> idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, >> synthpop, and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of >> those genres. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 01:13:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32263-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45317 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:13:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 45307 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:13:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:13:10 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <003c01c4aa2b$f6876300$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and death metal. I present some examples: http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of canada: glitched out grindcore) http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular vocal processing at end of song) http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular processing at start of song) all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four years old. Anthony On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Anthony Saunders wrote: > > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:02 PM, John Nowak wrote: > >> There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? >> >> - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 01:30:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32264-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51090 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:30:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 51080 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:30:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:30:11 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] driving down the cost of reading... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-19BC7636166E11D9AB23000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all- A bit of an experiment, but I thought I might take a chance: I've recently enjoyed reading James Harley's book on Iannis Xenakis <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415971454/qid=1096938840 /sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9213846-5719358?v=glance&s=books> which analyzes the breadth of his creative output. It's really a unique view of Xenakis that takes a couple of steps back from the detail of _Formalized Music_ and enables one to take in the span of his life's work. Trouble is, the book is an $85 hardback, and I was only able to get it thanks to interlibrary loan. Clearly, the dread Taylor and Francis Group (Routledge) is thinking solely of the library market. Now the privatization of specialized knowledge by locking it up in academic libraries is a whole topic in and of itself, but what I might request is: I'm emailing their special sales person in Canada, Pamela Robinson, to suggest that I, and others like me, would be interested in purchasing this book in the $17-25 price range in paperback. If you think you might, please email her as well. Please don't use my $$$ range as a yardstick, put in whatever price you might think is fair. Certainly it might be hard for you to know whether you'd actually want this book without browsing it (don't hold your breath at B&N), but I'm curious what kind of a response would be generated by 10-25 (or more) emails showing up on this subject. Her address is: <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> ....and if you feel like it, blind copy the list. Best, Tad <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 01:56:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32265-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61493 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:56:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 61483 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:56:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:56:02 -0400 From: vze26m98 <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] Pricing Harley's _Xenakis_ In-reply-to: <r02010400-1035-19BC7636166E11D9AB23000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <r02010400-1035-B694861B167111D9AB23000D932C0D78@[67.84.254.108]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx FORWARDED MESSAGE ======================= Ms. Robinson- I recently enjoyed reading James Harley's book _Xenakis, His Life and Music_ which is published by Routledge (ISBN: 0415971454). I got my copy through inter-library loan at CUNY from the University of New Hampshire Library. I considered purchasing a copy, but when I looked the work up on Amazon, I was shocked to find it costs $85. I'm assuming you don't have a lot of confidence in its sales potential and are looking solely to a library market. As a student interested in music of the 20th century, and knowing others who have similar interests, I can't help but think Routledge could do quite well with a paperback edition in a mid-teens to low-twenty dollar price tag. Written work on Xenakis is very hard to find considering the interest in his life and work. I should think a treatment of broad scope such as James Harley's would find an abundance of eager readers. Best, Charles Turner <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> ======================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 03:08:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32266-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82591 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:07:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 82555 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:07:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5001 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FTqVl8OXjnVdpHNFYUrPYQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_FTqVl8OXjnVdpHNFYUrPYQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello is there anyone here that collects random or algorithmic music generators? I like to find one that supports Musical forms such as rondo ,A-B-C, Rhapsody Ect.. It must be able to save or export the songs As Midi Files. I already have fractalmusic2000 and all of Paul Whalley Programs prefer Freeware or on the cheap $50 or less. thanks for any And All help Mg3Nc . --Boundary_(ID_FTqVl8OXjnVdpHNFYUrPYQ)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 03:20:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32267-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86221 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:12:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 86196 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:12:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:12:27 -0700 (PDT) From: svin <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] any events in Edmonton, AB, Canada?(-) In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Tue Oct 5 03:40:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32268-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94026 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:40:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 94015 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:40:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Elliott <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] death metal and powernoise X-Originating-IP: [65.70.207.5] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Eon-Sig: AQF85gpBYhexAAQcEAEAAAAB,c8e733aa0b4106dc84ae21dde8c6fdc0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? and I live in the US, and I've never heard the term "noise" used to describe any sort of distorted beats nonsense. Usually that has a stupid name like "noisecore" or "breakcore" or something else with "core". - John Well, there is the overlap between microsound and speed metal where Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's speed metal band rehearsing as source material (apparantly Francisco Lopez at least really likes speed and death metal, and I myself have to admit a certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that makes for a genre overlap, but it's interesting anyway. As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction between noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and 'powernoise', which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy beat based industrial stuff with the ocassional blast of 'noise' here and there. And I think most americans would make this distinction except for old people who grew up on swing who think that all music that isn't swing or classical is 'noise', but that's a whole other story. Greg http://spagirus.ivdt.net _____________________________________________________________ Get FREE Email and FREE Websites at http://www.chaosmagic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 04:25:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32269-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7532 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:24:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 7522 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:24:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:18:18 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 4, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Gregory Elliott wrote: > Well, there is the overlap between microsound and speed metal where > Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's speed metal band > rehearsing as source material (apparantly Francisco Lopez at least > really likes speed and death metal, and I myself have to admit a > certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that makes for a genre > overlap, but it's interesting anyway. Indeed, I've used samples of Slayer in my works. I've also used samples of Britney Spears and MC Hammer though... > As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from > hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction between > noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and 'powernoise', > which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy beat based > industrial stuff There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider powernoise, mostly from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as powernoise is too much nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for my tastes, so I can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen stuff hard techno or something like that... after all, it really is just noisy, crap techno (redundant, I know). I love Cock ESP. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 05:10:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32270-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18064 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:10:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 18053 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:10:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:24:19 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from >>hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction >>between noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and >>'powernoise', which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy >>beat based industrial stuff > >There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider powernoise, >mostly from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as powernoise >is too much nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for my >tastes, so I can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen stuff >hard techno or something like that... after all, it really is just >noisy, crap techno (redundant, I know). while many have unfortunately gotten kind of pedestrian, some of the a-z artists have more to them than that. converter and morgenstern overlap into noiseambient and powernoise. i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, and slogun. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 06:32:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32271-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33086 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:32:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 33074 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:32:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:32:04 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:24 AM, chthonic streams wrote: > i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the > same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG > tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits > and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, > and slogun. > I on the other hand was under the impression that "power noise" and "power electronics" were very different. PE being Whitehouse, Sutcliffe Jugend, Genocide Organ, Con-Dom, Grey Wolves, Taint, Grunt, Slogun, etc, and PN being Ant-Zen style rhythmic noise. Anthony who prefers japanese style harsh noise, especially the incredible work of Kazumoto Endo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 06:58:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32272-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38581 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:58:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 38565 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:58:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:58:37 +0200 (CEST) From: urkuma urkuma <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] =?iso-8859-1?q?Finisterrae=92s=20Cronotopo?= To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1OZuGVkFEctWHnqngcNLSA)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1OZuGVkFEctWHnqngcNLSA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Finisterrae’s Cronotopo The Cronotopos is defined by Mikhail Bakhtin (writer 1934\1985) "a time-space", that is a kind of interconnection, through that it is possible to describe, at the same time, an historical and imaginary time and space. PLEO and URKUMA choose to take as reference Murray Schaffer's soundscapes, recording 30 seconds of sound every 5 kilometers along Salento's coast, from T.Castiglione(Jonic coast) to Casalabate(Adriatic coast). 185 kilometers were scoured and "recorded" , from 9.36 a.m. to 7.20 p.m. in 28.06.2004; passing trough "finisterrae's coast", which was considered the border-land of the south-east of Italy. The listener can live again the sonic exploration of PLEO and URKUMA recordings. Every sample is assembled obtaining a single track, made by "fade-in and fade-out" technique. It is a "sonic-safari" through nature, buildings, streets, pre-recorded bells, aqueduct, dogs, voices…silence. http://www.quantize-records.com/mapping/cronotopo.html ciao Pleo & Urkuma --------------------------------- Scopri Mister Yahoo! - il fantatorneo sul calcio di Yahoo! Sport' --Boundary_(ID_1OZuGVkFEctWHnqngcNLSA)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 08:46:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32273-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59294 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:46:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 59283 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:46:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:37:36 +0100 From: catskinroyale <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] =?windows-1252?Q?Finisterrae=92s_Cronotopo?= In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Authenticated-Sender: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Processed: sourceofevil.org, Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:35:33 +0100 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 212.187.249.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.187.249.4 X-Return-Path: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx urkuma urkuma wrote: > Finisterrae’s Cronotopo > > fantastic! james --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 09:59:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32274-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72903 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:59:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 72893 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:59:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:09:41 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller In-reply-to: <00ce01c4aa51$a7c70f10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> <000b01c4a873$12872a50$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <008901c4a98b$6bfc6d70$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <00ce01c4aa51$a7c70f10$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx try using the [gemtablet] object in Pure Data/GEM. it will give you raw numbers of position, pression, azimuth, orientation, etc of the pen without problem. you can do the conversion to midi yourself at that point. d. Anton Weiss wrote: > Well, yes, I should've mentioned that I was looking for a Windows utility. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 192: "Your mistake was a hidden intention" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 12:14:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32275-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:14:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 7252 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:14:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:11:45 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bmicrosound=5D_Finisterrae's_Cronotopo?= To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002601c4aad4$7bf46760$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx great piece, very well presented. i like the map-visualisation, rather simple, but fantastic. thanx for sharing this, hidarius °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 12:24:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32276-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9304 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:24:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 9293 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:24:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:14:45 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210600bd87df543595@[64.63.223.32]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:24 AM, chthonic streams wrote: > >>> As far as the american idea of noise, the way I understand it from >>> hearing about it from others, is that there is a distinction between >>> noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, etc.) and >>> 'powernoise', which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy beat >>> based industrial stuff >> >> There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider powernoise, >> mostly from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as powernoise is >> too much nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for my >> tastes, so I can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen stuff >> hard techno or something like that... after all, it really is just >> noisy, crap techno (redundant, I know). > > while many have unfortunately gotten kind of pedestrian, some of the > a-z artists have more to them than that. converter and morgenstern > overlap into noiseambient and powernoise. > > i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the > same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG > tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits > and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, > and slogun. Yes, Slogun is who I was trying to think of. Indeed I have both Converter and Slogun t-shirts from a few years back... :-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 13:21:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32277-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24706 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:21:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 24696 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:21:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:21:48 -0700 (PDT) From: carl kruger <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] =?UNKNOWN?Q?Finisterrae=92s?= Cronotopo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i'm thinking if something similar was attempted in the states, all you'd get would be the passing of cars. and police sirens. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Tue Oct 5 16:47:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32278-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4995 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:47:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 4984 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:47:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:48:38 -0600 From: devslashnull <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] wacom tablet midi cotroller In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bkd5ckmTYL4MMF4bfdBh7A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_bkd5ckmTYL4MMF4bfdBh7A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurie Spiegel made something called "Music Mouse" back in 1985 I think. 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Tue Oct 5 17:34:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32279-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22591 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:34:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 22580 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:34:48 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:34:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 06/10/2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes -Miércoles/Wednesday 15h- www.circulobellasartes.com Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen Live real time: www.ondasonoraradio.com CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 06/10/2004 Especial EXPERIMENTACLUB 04 Programa especial dedicado a ExperimentaClub 2004, el festival de música experimental que se celebra a partir de hoy y hasta el domingo en La Casa Encendida de Madrid, en el que nos vemos inevitablemente involucrados, y encantados de estarlo, porque hemos sido invitados a realizar una singular sesión de hora y media este domingo 10 de octubre a partir de las 6 de la tarde Special program dedicated to ExperimentaClub 2004, the festival of experimental music that takes place starting from today and until Sunday at La Casa Encendida in Madrid, in which we see inevitably involved, and charmed of being, as we've been invited to carry out a singular hour and a half session this Sunday October 10th, starting from 6 in the afternoon 01. SO Track: 3 Album: So Label: Thrill Jockey Comenzamos pues con algunos de los contenidos del festival, por orden de aparición, escuchando lo que podremos ver esta tarde. Este es uno de los 10 cortes sin nombre incluidos en un disco editado el año pasado por el sello Thrill Jockey: el debut de So, proyecto conjunto de Markus Popp (de Oval, Microstoria) y la japonesa Eriko Toyoda, creado en 2002 a partir de la revisión y deconstrucción de una amplia colección de canciones grabadas anteriormente por ella en Japón. Para sus actuaciones en directo, como la de esta tarde en ExperimentaClub, a partir de las 19.30h , utilizan un equipo especialmente diseñado por ellos mismos Some of the contents of the festival, in their appearance order from this afternoon. This is one of the 10 tracks without name included in a cd released last year by the Thrill Jockey label: the debut of So, combined project of Markus Popp (of Oval, Microstoria) and the Japanese Eriko Toyoda, created in 2002 starting from the revision and deconstrucción of a wide collection of songs recorded previously by her in Japan. For their live performances, as this afternoon in ExperimentaClub, starting from 19.30h, they use equipment specially designed by themselves 02. STRAND Track: Soy Petroleo, soy La Muerte Album: Paz Label: Foehn El madrileño Miguel Gil Tertre, Strand, con una de las canciones de su álbum Paz, editado el año pasado por Foehn Records. Un artista cuyas obras parten de la manipulación de sonidos, explorando las posibilidades del software sobre instrumentos reales, en búsqueda de la emoción. Strand sin embargo no actuará solo esta tarde en ExperimentaClub, a partir de las 20.30h, sino con varios músicos colaboradores: 3 en los scratches y la presencia especial del dúo de improvisación Kompoloi, con piano y cello, junto a la voz de Paloma Sosa de Abner y Kodama Nuzzle Miguel Gil Tertre, Strand, from Madrid, with one of the songs of his album Peace, released last year by Foehn Records. An artist whose works rest of the manipulation of sounds, exploring the possibilities of the software over real instruments, in search of musical emotion. Strand however won't act alone this afternoon in ExperimentaClub, starting from 20.30h, but with several collaborating musicians: 3 in the scratches and the special presence of the improvisation duet Kompoloi, with piano and cello, next to the voice of Paloma Sosa of Abner and Kodama Nuzzle 03. NOVA HUTA Track: Deutsche Filmmusik Album: Mutek 02 Label: Mutek_Rec Records Continuamos con Nova Huta, alias artístico de Günter Reznicek, un subversivo personaje procedente de la ciudad alemana de Hamburgo, entorno del que también proceden algunos de sus amigos como Felix Kubin y Gunter Adler. Nova Huta es, desde 1998, la personal propuesta electro-pop de Reznicek, investigador también en otros campos como la música concreta desde los años 80. Su actuación de esta noche a las 21.15h en Experimentaclub'04 será la primera en nuestro país, en esta ocasión presentando su nuevo disco, "Here Comes My Seltsam Voice" (editado en el sello portugués Variz). Además, a partir de las 22h, podremos ver también a Jason Forrest, alias Donna Summer We continue with Nova Huta, artistic moniker of Günter Reznicek, a subversive character coming from the German city of Hamburg, environment from which some of their friends also proceed, like Felix Kubin and Gunter Adler. Nova Huta is, from 1998, the personal electro-pop proposal of Reznicek, investigator also in other fields as the music concréte from the 80s. His performance tonight at 21.15h in Experimentaclub'04 will be the first in Spain, in this occasion presenting his new record, "Here Comes My Seltsam Voice" (released in the Portuguese label Varix). Also, starting from 22h o'clock, we can see Jason Forrest, alias Donna Summer 04. FENNESZ Track: Circassian Album: Venice Label: Touch La música del austríaco Christian Fennesz, guitarrista e investigador sonoro conceptual, creador de complejos entramados digitales de sonido procesado que desarrollan texturas melódicas y distorsionadas a partes iguales. Su último trabajo, Venice, es posiblemente también el más introspectivo de su carrera. Fennesz actúa el jueves 7 a las 19.30h en el auditorio de La Casa Encendida The music of the Austrian artist Christian Fennesz, guitarist and conceptual sound investigator, creator of complex digital lattices of processed sound that develop melodic and distorted textures. His last work, Venice, is possibly also the most introspective in his career. Fennesz's appearance will take place on Thursday 7th at 19.30h in the auditory 05. MANUAL (WITH JESS KAHR) Track: Always Alone Album: The North Shore Label: Darla El danés Jonas Munk, un artista del siglo XXI dedicado al pop electrónico de bella factura, tanto en solitario con su alias Manual como con su grupo Limp. En su último disco, The North Shore, al que pertenece este corte que escuchamos, colabora de hecho Jess Kahr, uno de sus compañeros en Limp. Sin embargo Munk llegará solo a Madrid para actuar en ExperimentaClub 04, mañana 7 de octubre a las 21.15h The Danish Jonas Munk, an artist of the 21st century dedicated to electronic pop music of beautiful execution, so much in solitary with his alias Manual as with his group Limp. In his last record, The North Shore, collaborates Jess Kahr, in fact one of his partners in Limp. However Munk will arrive alone to Madrid to act in ExperimentaClub 04, October 7th at 21.15h 06. KREIDLER Track: Clockwerk Album: Eve Future Label: Wonder Una formación nacida en 1994 en Dusseldorf, al oeste de Alemania, con unas coordenadas cercanas al post-rock minimalista y al pop electrónico. Se trata de Kreidler, cuarteto reconvertido en trío tras la deserción de Stefan Schneider, con cuatro discos en los últimos 8 años cada vez más cerca de un paisajismo ambiental de corte cinematográfico. Defenderán su propuesta en ExperimentaClub mañana jueves a partir de las 22h en el patio de LCE, un día en el que también podemos disfrutar de los sonidos de la barcelonesa Eli Gras y las visuales de Stan Brakhage, Lillian Schwartz y Jean Painlevé A formation born in 1994 in Dusseldorf, western Germany, with coordinates somehow near to minimalist post-rock and electronic pop music: Kreidler, a quartet turned into a trio after Stefan Schneider's desertion, with four albums in the last 8 years, each time nearer from a cinematographic soundscapism. They will defend their proposal in ExperimentaClub on Thursday, starting from 22h in the patio of LCE, in a day in which we can also enjoy the sounds of Eli Gras from Barcelona and the visuals of Stan Brakhage, Lillian Schwartz and Jean Painlevé 07. CHRIS CLARK Track: Empty the Bones of You Album: Empty the Bones of You Label: Warp Pasamos ahora a repasar las actuaciones del viernes 8 de octubre, comenzando por el británico Chris Clark, uno de los nuevos valores del panorama electrónico reciente que cuenta con el apoyo de la en otros tiempos poderosa compañía Warp Records, cuya actuación está programada para las 19.30h. acompañada por visuales a cargo de Matt Burden The performances of Friday 8 of October, beginning with the British Chris Clark, one of the new values of the recent electronic panorama, that has the support of the another time powerful company Warp Records, whose performance is programmed for 19.30h. accompanied by Matt Burden's visual support 08. PABLO RECHE Track: Constelacion 1 Album: Constelacion Label: Conv Otro de los invitados a la edición 2004 de ExperimentaClub, el argentino Pablo Reche, que destaca por la utilización personal que hace del ruido como elemento expresivo, partiendo de grabaciones de campo, sintetizadores y radios de onda corta que después procesa y ordena para construir obras como esta que suena, una de las piezas incluídas en su disco Constelación, editado hace 4 años y recientemente re-editado por el netlabel Conv. Pablo Reche actuará el viernes después de la barcelonesa y Io Casino, acompañada por el videojockey Edrok, miembro del colectivo Rotok, a partir de las 21.15h en la Sala 2 de LCE Another of the guests in the current edition of ExperimentaClub, the Argentinean Pablo Reche that highlights for the personal use that makes of the noise as an expressive element, starting from field recordings, synthesizers and short wave radio that later he processes and orders to build works like this, one of the included pieces in his Constellation cd, published 4 years ago and recently re-released by the Conv netlabel. Pablo Reche will perform on Friday after the Barcelonese Io Casino, accompanied by the videojockey Edrok, member of the collective Rotok, starting from 21.15h in the Room 2 at LCE 09. FAUST / DÄLEK Track: Collected Twighlight Album: Derbe Respect, Alder Label: Staubgold Tras los sonidos de Pablo reche, continuamos con Faust, una banda mítica del krautrock alemán que viene trabajando desde principios de los 70, explorando el collage sonoro y desarrollando un rock caótico y revolucionario de tintes industriales, si bien abiertos a todo tipo de propuestas: como la que escuchamos, junto a un trío norteamericano de hip-hop llamado Dälek, para el disco de colaboración entre ambos publicado hace unos meses por el sello Staubgold After the sounds of Pablo reche, we continue with Faust, a mythical band of the German krautrock that comes working from the beginning of the 70s, exploring the sound collage and developing a chaotic and revolutionary rock of industrial tints, although open to all type of proposals: as this one, together with a North American hip-hop trio called Dälek, for a collaborative record released some months ago by the Staubgold label 10. FAUST Track: Eroberung Der Stille: teil 2 Album: Rien Label: Table Of The Elements Faust actuarán en el marco del ExperimentaClub este mismo 8 de octubre a las 22h, cerrando la programación del viernes en un concierto muy especial por convertirse en una de las escasas y seleccionadas ocasiones en que se los puede ver en directo. Escuchamos uno de los cortes incluídos en su álbum Rien, publicado originalmente en 1994 y hace poco reeditado por el sello Table of the Elements, una versión maquinal y fantasmagórica de la Sinfonía nº 3 de Gorecki Faust will perform in the ExperimentaClub festival on October 8th at 22h, closing the programming of Friday in a very special concert for becoming one of the scarce and selected occasions in which it is possible to see them live. We listen to one of the cuts included in their album "Rien", released originally in 1994 and recently reissued by the Table of the Elements label, a mechanical and phantasmagoric version of Gorecki's Symphony nº 3 11. DAVID SHEA Track: 8 Scenes For Computer Album: Classic Works 2 Label: Tzadik El sábado, a partir de las 19.30h, actúa otro de los grandes nombres invitados a esta edición de ExperimentaClub: el norteamericano David Shea, un explorador de las tradiciones clásicas de oriente y occidente e investigador de la performance, la danza, la improvisación y la música electrónica, grabando junto a artistas como John Zorn y en sellos como Sub Rosa. Escuchamos uno de los cortes de su último disco, en el sello Tzadik: Classic Works II, una colección de pasajes de música de cámara basados en el uso del sampler, como en este 8 Scenes for Computer On Saturday, starting from 19.30h, another big name invited to this edition of ExperimentaClub: the North American David Shea, an explorer of the classic traditions of east and occident and a investigator of the performance, the dance, the improvisation and the electronic music, recording next to artists like John Zorn and in labels as Sub Rosa. We listen to one of the tracks in his last record, in the Tzadik label: Classic Works II, a collection of passages of chamber music based on the use of the sampler, like in this "8 Scenes for Computer" 12. THE EVOLUTION CONTROL COMMITTEE Track: The Fucking Moon Album: Plagiarhythm Nation v2.0 Label: Seeland / Ecc Una interesante propuesta para el sábado a las 21.15h es la del estadounidense Mark Gunderson, The Evolution Control Committee, que actúa con una especie de aparatosos guantes desde los que maneja un equipo que dispara muestras de audio procedentes de las más diversas grabaciones cualquiera que sea su origen, al modo que actúan otros apropiacionistas como People Like Us o Negativland sin guantes pero también con un subversivo sentido del humor, sobre todo en estos últimos tiempos con las polémicas leyes anti-copyright An interesting proposal for Saturday at 21.15h is that of the American Mark Gunderson, The Evolution Control Committee, that performs with a kind of a spectacular gloves from whose he manages some equipment that shoots audio samples coming from the most diverse recordings whichever it is its origin, in the way that other apropiationists like People Like Us or Negativland act -without gloves but also with a subversive sense of humor, mainly in these last times with the polemic anti-copyright laws 13. TUXEDOMOON Track: Here Till X-mas Album: Cabin In The Sky Label: Crammed Las actuaciones del sábado acaban con el concierto de otro grupo de culto creado hace 27 años en San Francisco, Tuxedomoon, que retornan este 2004 tras varios años de inactividad con un concierto total convertido en espectáculo multimedia. Eso será a las 22h, cerrando un día en el que también podremos escuchar a las francesas Les Moines Fréres y a DJitter, Darío Moratilla, como dj, además de contemplar varios trabajos visuales, entre ellos el de Takagi Masakatsu. Para el domingo quedan las actuaciones de César Manrique de Radio 3 y el alemán Felix Kubin, ambos como djs, en una tarde musical que abre César Pradíes, Dj Onda Sonora, con una sesión especial de hora y media en la que podrás escuchar algunos de los sonidos más interesantes que han pasado por este programa en los últimos meses The performances for Saturday end with the concert of another cult band that was created 27 years ago in San Francisco, Tuxedomoon, that return this 2004 after several years of inactivity with a total concert transformed into a multimedia show. That will be at 22h, closing one day in which we will also listen to the French Les Moines Fréres and to DJitter, Darío Moratilla, as dj, beside contemplating several visual works, among them Takagi Masakatsu's. For Sunday there are some more performances of Diego Manrique of Radio 3 and the German Félix Kubin, both as djs, in a musical afternoon that will be opened by Cesar Pradíes, Dj Onda Sonora, with a special session an hour and a half long, in which we will listen some of the most interesting sounds that filled this program in the last months ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡100 MB GRATIS! 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Tue Oct 5 19:58:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32280-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77402 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:58:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 77392 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:58:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:58:02 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10708 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_IbSFi4viXNIndI1x4yInvw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_IbSFi4viXNIndI1x4yInvw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit holy shit. I come from Michigan, and I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the low-key microsound board about power electronics-style noise, which is the sort of stuff we listen to around here. I don't really know where to begin here to tell you what it's like musically with this stuff. In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes and the American Tapes label which despite what any of you laptoppers think remains great. We also have Animal Disguise run by Mammal with Viki and Hair Police and a bunch of other people on it. And there's a bunch of smaller labels around here too, I don't want to have to list them. Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From label (http://www.freedom-from.com/) with a bunch of stuff on it, a lot of it isn't noise but a lot of it is. If you go to their links page you will find a bunch of labels that have noisyness on them, you probably haven't heard of a lot of it. Then of course there's Providence RI, from which comes the Load records label (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This label houses a good synthesis of noise and metal, with people like Lightning Bolt, Nautical Almanac, and Metalux holding court. And Fort Thunder was from Providence too, which is important. Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming from these days, so go check it out. bill --Boundary_(ID_IbSFi4viXNIndI1x4yInvw)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 21:08:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32281-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3910 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:08:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 3900 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:08:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:07:21 -0500 From: Jeffrey Matz <xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -core X-Originating-IP: [4.159.218.211] X-Sender: xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx To: microsound <microsound%hyperreal.orgxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0011.2700 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZEFC2P0uT4ARVVAObmq2ng)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2004 21:08:12.0225 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C489B10:01C4AB1F] --Boundary_(ID_ZEFC2P0uT4ARVVAObmq2ng) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for the love of god, one more genre with "core" at the end of it and i'll scream... if you're wondering, when people ask me what kind of music i make, i tell em scrap-pop. hyphenates seem to be a little less irritating to me. anybody wanna help invent "core-core?" --Boundary_(ID_ZEFC2P0uT4ARVVAObmq2ng)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 21:47:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32282-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17501 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:47:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 17491 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:47:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: monotonaut <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] BROKEN SLEEP winter european tour..looking for gigs To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx January 25 - February 7 2005 mp3 links- http://freewebs.com/brokensleep contact- monotonaut at yahoo dot ca Broken Sleep is the dark, abstract dronescape project of Colin Hendry. He was a founding member of the now-defunct Mediacore collective, which organized "low-brow" experimental and hardcore electronic music events in Vancouver, Canada. His "glitchcomassault" often also includes lo-fi analogue field recordings. He has opened for artists such as Pan Sonic, Synapscape, Crank Sturgeon, Dev79, and Dave Phillips. This will be his third small European tour and second as "Broken Sleep". The name has sonic and symbolic meaning, and is a common experience for this graveyard shift worker. ===== http://freewebs.com/brokensleep ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:12:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32283-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27646 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:12:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 27635 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:12:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:15:23 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJGEBOEJAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> <486001c4a9a8$ad4274b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nice. one of my secrets is hooking up two digital vcrs, the player on fastforward or rewind and the other one just recording the output. the results are great, depending on the source material... then you take it to the next level by using the record tape as the play tape, and so forth forever and ever and ever... graham. ale*** wrote: > A couple of days ago I was watching an avi file of Blade Runner, when, at a > certain point the video started skipping and glitching producing some > beautiful visuals. I took some stills and I uploaded them without any > retouch, I just resized 'em a bit. > http://www.pachinkostudio.com/mugen/archives/000074.html > Can you guys point me toward some good articles about video glitching, > use/abuse and tech aspects related to corrupted video streams? > Best, > > ale*** > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:38:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32284-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36567 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 36556 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim sprikut <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AC.17 - Chicago 10/10/04 - Jon Muller + Steve Hess, Jason Soliday To: xxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx crossposted... AC.17 Please join us for the fall series of AC events. These performances feature improvised electroacoustic music in a comfortable, intimate setting, designed to encourage active listening. We have relocated so please take note of the new address. 10/10/04, Sunday, 7pm: _Jon Muller and Steven Hess _Jason Soliday Since this is a private residence, you *must* RSVP to attend. Show starts at 7pm. Free, donations welcome. Refreshments provided. The Den 1349 N. Washtenaw #1F Chicago IL 60622 Please e-mail xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx or call 773.394.2906 for an RSVP or for more information. Other dates in this series: 10/24, 11/7 and 11/21, with more details to follow. v' __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. 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Tue Oct 5 22:39:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32285-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38407 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 38397 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:38:51 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] powernoise In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thanks for the information! A little power electronics will keep you from going insane when surrounded by a bunch of academic nonsense all the time. (Not that all academic music is nonsense.) - John On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:58 PM, xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > holy shit. > I come from Michigan, and I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the > low-key microsound board about power electronics-style noise, which is > the sort of > stuff we listen to around here. > I don't really know where to begin here to tell you what it's like > musically > with this stuff. > In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes and the American Tapes label which > despite what > any of you laptoppers think remains great. We also have Animal > Disguise run > by Mammal with Viki and Hair Police and a bunch of other people on it. > And > there's a bunch of smaller labels around here too, I don't want to > have to list > them. > Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From label > (http://www.freedom-from.com/) > with a bunch of stuff on it, a lot of it isn't noise but a lot of it > is. If > you go to their links page you will find a bunch of labels that have > noisyness > on them, you probably haven't heard of a lot of it. > Then of course there's Providence RI, from which comes the Load > records label > (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This label houses a good synthesis of > noise > and metal, with people like Lightning Bolt, Nautical Almanac, and > Metalux > holding court. And Fort Thunder was from Providence too, which is > important. > > Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming > from > these days, so go check it out. > bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:39:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32286-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39258 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 39245 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:39:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:39:19 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] -core In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 5, 2004, at 5:07 PM, Jeffrey Matz wrote: > when people ask me what kind of music i make, i tell em scrap-pop. When people ask me, I tell them they don't want to know. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 22:58:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32287-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44644 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:57:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 44622 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:57:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 18:57:53 -0400 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: project names vs real names... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > anybody wanna help invent "core-core?" FWIW the Norwegian spootcore band ArtSkool has been adding a core suffix to most of their songs for about a decade, genres like like foamcore, grannycore, every song a unique genre. Sometimes they also add trendy lefty terminology, you know, issue manifestos, agit propagate, add "-ista" to nouns ending in an "n" http://zuzula.com/artist.php?id=47 > There's an overlap between microsound and death metal? There's always what I'd consider a sort of "bad boy" posture - to embrace what's considered extremely "out" especially if you are in a scene that makes claims to pushing boundaries and exploring the extremes, etc. nicholas d. kent --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 5 23:01:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32288-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46482 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:00:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 46236 invoked from network); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:00:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 00:05:05 +0100 From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <20041006000505.799d1f2e.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Organization: gavmusic MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:07:38 EDT xxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > Hello is there anyone here that collects random or algorithmic music > generators? > I like to find one that supports Musical forms such as rondo ,A-B-C, > Rhapsody Ect.. > It must be able to save or export the songs As Midi Files. > I already have fractalmusic2000 and all of Paul Whalley Programs > prefer Freeware or on the cheap $50 or less. thanks for any And All > help Mg3Nc . Hi, I've got quite a collection that I backed-up to CD from when I used to run Windows. I'm not sure about structural detail like rondo etc., though. I'll take a look on the CD & see what I've got. Another avenue worth exploring is to install the superb Atari ST emulator STeem (or XSteem for Linux), which opens up a whole new universe of fractal/algorithmic apps. I'll write more when I've looked at what I have. Gavin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:26:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32289-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99842 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:26:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 99825 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:26:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:54:45 +0930 From: Ritchie <x_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [202.174.33.163] X-Sender: x_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [x_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 01:25:03.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DEC0B10:01C4AB43] Very enjoyable. Brings back memories when I played in an industrial grind band called DEADpool. Ritchie http://ninja.at/play __o __o _ `\<,_ _`\<,_ (_) / (_) (_)/ (_) > Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and > death metal. > > I present some examples: > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of > canada: glitched out grindcore) > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular > vocal processing at end of song) > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular > processing at start of song) > > all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four > years old. > > Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:44:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32290-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4205 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:44:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 4195 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:44:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:43:18 +0200 From: peewee <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] video glitch To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <01fb01c4ab45$f843c2e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yeah, especialy like GCTT CATT - amperase album cover on mego > they look like mego or mille plautux album covers.................instant pimmon art --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:46:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32291-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5446 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:46:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 5436 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:46:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:49:18 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the third floor of this club (books on tape - ick). the second floor had some death metal group. bored to tears with the nerd techno upstairs i ventured down to the second level and dived into the trenched with the goths (essentially nerds of another kind). they growled at me. the 16th note machine gun fire double kick drum rhythms kill me. dropped guitar tunings like no tomorrow. so great i couldn't wipe the smile off my face. i'm a novice here. it was such a joyous experience. i'm not sure if laughing was the intended result but it killed me. i thought it was great. so evil it's hilarious. way more joy than the pretension upstairs. that's what always gets me about NIN and dark heavy stuff (techno included)... if it's so evil why does it make me so happy? g. Ritchie wrote: > Very enjoyable. Brings back memories when I played in an industrial grind > band called DEADpool. > > Ritchie > http://ninja.at/play > __o __o > _ `\<,_ _`\<,_ > (_) / (_) (_)/ (_) > > > Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and > > death metal. > > > > I present some examples: > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of > > canada: glitched out grindcore) > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular > > vocal processing at end of song) > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular > > processing at start of song) > > > > all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four > > years old. > > > > Anthony > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 01:58:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32292-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8779 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:58:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 8769 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:58:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:57:42 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <013f01c4ab47$de64eb40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx kevin drumm's recent works "sheer hellish miasma", "frozen by blizzard winds", "land of lurches", "impish tyrant", reflect his interest in extreme death metal bands, such as havohej... imhofwiw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 02:38:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32293-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21100 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:38:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 21089 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:38:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:38:47 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD88D2F7.31F5%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/5/04 9:49 PM, graham miller at xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx wrote: > funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the third > floor of this club (books on tape - ick). the second floor had some death > metal group. bored to tears with the nerd techno upstairs i ventured down to > the second level and dived into the trenched with the goths (essentially > nerds of another kind). they growled at me. the 16th note machine gun fire > double kick drum rhythms kill me. dropped guitar tunings like no tomorrow. so > great i couldn't wipe the smile off my face. i'm a novice here. it was such a > joyous experience. i'm not sure if laughing was the intended result but it > killed me. i thought it was great. so evil it's hilarious. way more joy than > the pretension upstairs. that's what always gets me about NIN and dark heavy > stuff (techno included)... if it's so evil why does it make me so happy? > > g. > > Ritchie wrote: > >> Very enjoyable. Brings back memories when I played in an industrial grind >> band called DEADpool. >> >> Ritchie >> http://ninja.at/play >> __o __o >> _ `\<,_ _`\<,_ >> (_) / (_) (_)/ (_) >> >>> Sheesh, how did I forget. My band is an overlap between microsound and >>> death metal. >>> >>> I present some examples: >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/7july28.mp3 (boardgames of >>> canada: glitched out grindcore) >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-beahuman.mp3 >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/anthony/audio/dc-boredofcnn.mp3 (granular >>> vocal processing at end of song) >>> http://www.overwhelmed.org/dataclast/audio/rateofinterest.mp3 (granular >>> processing at start of song) >>> >>> all synth, all drum machine grindcore. these songs are three or four >>> years old. >>> >>> Anthony >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 02:55:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32294-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27032 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:55:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 27015 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:55:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:58:06 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_By7ZgMrq2xHceq1csSLQDg)" X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD88D2F7.31F5%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_By7ZgMrq2xHceq1csSLQDg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > not sure if sad and dark are the same thing. why do people love blade runner so? jean-pierre jeunet? anne rice? there is beauty in darkness. and while i have never heard that quote, it's very nice... even though i don't consider myself sad. at least anymore. i do love anger though. i wish there was more in microsound. punk is a beautiful expression of the human condition. there's bit of punk in all things great. g. > > > > > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_By7ZgMrq2xHceq1csSLQDg)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 03:28:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32295-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41006 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 40994 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:28:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:27:57 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx could someone start a TWiki page with links for AlgoMus generators? 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Wed Oct 6 03:40:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32296-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46089 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:40:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 46079 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:40:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 03:39:40 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [138.88.243.22] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 03:40:01.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[28E8D060:01C4AB56] I am much in favor of sludge metal, stuff like Eyehategod, Melvins, Cavity, Boris, Earth, Sabbath. Good to see some talk about noise, keeps things interesting. Drumm is great if you have not listened, his cd comedy is a good one and the one with Dorner on erstwhile is excellent. Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 05:41:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32297-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79254 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:41:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 79242 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:41:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:40:37 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <013f01c4ab47$de64eb40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> <013f01c4ab47$de64eb40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx haha HAVOHEJ!!!! "I vomit on god's child!" Never anticipated seeing them mentioned on this list! "Frozen By Blizzard Winds" sounds like an Immortal song title... Anthony metalhead and microsounder On Oct 5, 2004, at 9:57 PM, <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > kevin drumm's recent works "sheer hellish miasma", "frozen by blizzard > winds", "land of lurches", "impish tyrant", reflect his interest in > extreme > death metal bands, such as havohej... > imhofwiw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 06:16:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32298-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16994 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:16:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 16975 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:16:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Polta <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and Mick (MJ) Harris. Harris was for a while associted with extreme metal outfit Napalm Death (cited in one interview as a fave of F. Lopez). His Scorn project brought this dark intensity to a techno/dub sorta thang and the Lull moniker is purely intense throbbing drone. Collaborations with Bill Laswell and james Plotkin have also brought him into slowed down ambient territory. (Napalm Death is rumored to have released an LP with--so it is claimed--over one hundred songs on it as well as a 7" with over 1000! How's that for micro-metal??) Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me "experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself incorporated strange techno/industrial elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal" group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume dirges and super low, room-rumbling frequencies--perhaps another Lopez connection??) and other aggressive noisy projects but has also produced very nice subtle guitar drone things (some in collaboration with KK Null, "known" for his involveent with the grungy Zeni Geva (see their collab CD AURORA). The various comps, "Throne of Drones," "Swarm of Drones" (don't know the labels) include tracks by these guys and document others of similar veins well. Don't know if it's technnically "microsound" and I'm hardly an authority on either's vast outputs but, well... there you go. --- John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Gregory Elliott wrote: > > > Well, there is the overlap between microsound and > speed metal where > > Francisco Lopez used recordings of his friend's > speed metal band > > rehearsing as source material (apparantly > Francisco Lopez at least > > really likes speed and death metal, and I myself > have to admit a > > certain nostalgia for it at times). Not that that > makes for a genre > > overlap, but it's interesting anyway. > > Indeed, I've used samples of Slayer in my works. > I've also used samples > of Britney Spears and MC Hammer though... > > > As far as the american idea of noise, the way I > understand it from > > hearing about it from others, is that there is a > distinction between > > noise (merzbow, Le Syndicat, Nautical Almanac, > etc.) and 'powernoise', > > which is the ant zen kind of simplified but heavy > beat based > > industrial stuff > > There are a lot of "wall of noise" acts I'd consider > powernoise, mostly > from the US. I'm not in touch with it though, as > powernoise is too much > nonsense and showmanship and pissing contestish for > my tastes, so I > can't name names. I've always called the ant-zen > stuff hard techno or > something like that... after all, it really is just > noisy, crap techno > (redundant, I know). > > I love Cock ESP. > > - John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 06:25:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32299-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19403 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:25:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 19393 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:25:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:24:41 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 6, 2004, at 2:16 AM, Steve Polta wrote: > (Napalm Death is rumored to have released > an LP with--so it is claimed--over one hundred songs > on it as well as a 7" with over 1000! How's that for > micro-metal??) Neither are true. The cd with Scum and From Enslavement To Obliteration probably has about 54 tracks on it however. F.E.T.O. is one of my all time favorite albums. Anal Cunt released a 5,643 Song 7", where they recorded live to tape on each of the 8 tracks on an 8 track recorder. Sounds amazing, a total wash of brutal screaming and guitars and drums. There is a recent Agoraphobic Nosebleed 3" cd with 100 tracks on it (starting in the negative before track 1, and then going all the way to track 99.) I also have an old 7" by the band Seven Minutes of Nausea called XX which has 320 songs on it. It's a 45, and it is actually possible to follow the lyric sheet along with the record. Almost all of the songs sound exactly the same besides the vocals. (band is only bass guitar and voice, if I remember correctly.) Khanate are great. Btw, the rare OLD/Assück split 7" has the best OLD stuff on it, imho. It's fast drum machine based material that sounds half way between the comedy-grindcore of the Total Hag lp and the prog/psyche weirdness of Lo Flux Tube. Anthony able to leap tall buildings and answer metal trivia in a single bound. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 13:11:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32300-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23366 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:11:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 23354 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:11:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:10:27 -0500 From: xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx (Patrick Carey) Subject: [microsound] Re: powernoise X-Sender: xx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v02110104bd89910a28dd@[142.150.128.235]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx * chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the >same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG >tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits >and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, >and slogun. * Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >I on the other hand was under the impression that "power noise" and >"power electronics" were very different. PE being Whitehouse, Sutcliffe >Jugend, Genocide Organ, Con-Dom, Grey Wolves, Taint, Grunt, Slogun, >etc, and PN being Ant-Zen style rhythmic noise. This is pretty much how I've always seen it. PN being a *much* more recent strain of "noise", with emphasis on rhythm, and even "beats" (evolving from, among other things, stuff like The Klinik, PIAS & KK bands; take Dirk Ivens f.e. going from The Klinik -> Dive -> Sonar, certainly a staple of modern PN), unlike most of the PE artists mentioned above. No doubt many of the young Ant-Zen'rs have GO, WH, early SPK & TG in their bins though. * xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx: >I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the low-key microsound board >about power electronics-style noise... In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes >and the American Tapes label... Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From >label (http://www.freedom-from.com/)... If you go to their links page >you will find a bunch of labels that have noisyness on them, you probably >haven't heard of a lot of it. Then of course there's Providence RI, from >which comes the Load records label (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This >label houses a good synthesis of noise and metal... >Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming >from these days, so go check it out. I wouldn't classify Wolf Eyes, much on American Tapes, or anything on Load as "Power Electronics". Freedom From comes much closer to having artists that fit this description, but as with AT and Load, most are just "noisy". I'm certainly unaware of recent developments in this area, but I always thought folks like Slogun, Taint, Bloodyminded (ex-IA, a WH clone) & Knurl were the top of the NA PE contingent. -Patrick NP: Rokia Traoré - "Bowmboï" [Brilliant gig a few nights back] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 14:14:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32301-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47331 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:14:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 47320 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:14:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:28:54 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal and powernoise In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210603bd89b081b760@[64.63.223.65]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into >the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at >times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and >Mick (MJ) Harris. if we're going in that direction, then i have to mention ulver, who were an open-minded black metal band with folk touches . over the years they added trip-hop beats and classical textures, then removed the metal part almost entirely, became dark electro-prog, created EPs of clicks and cuts mixed with melodic piano, and invited a host of underground names to remix their old work to become experimental electronics and noise. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 14:55:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32302-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69484 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:55:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 69472 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:55:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:58:36 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [OT] sci-fi films that take place in detroit? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx other than robocop? anyone? anyone? bueller? thx g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 16:43:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32303-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27180 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 27148 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:42:39 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] [OT] sci-fi films that take place in detroit? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001201c4abc3$7e22f890$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://us.imdb.com/List?endings=on&&locations=Detroit,%20Michigan,%20USA &&heading=18;with+locations+including;Detroit,%20Michigan,%20USA you just have to find which ones are sci-fi. S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : graham miller [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx] Envoyé : mercredi 6 octobre 2004 15:59 À : Microsound Objet : [microsound] [OT] sci-fi films that take place in detroit? other than robocop? anyone? anyone? bueller? thx g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:09:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32304-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43473 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:09:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 43463 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:09:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:09:17 -0700 From: Ryan Dunn <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] cd's 1 - mp3's 0 In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx oh yes, CDs *versus* digital music formats. Haha. On Sep 27, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Kim Cascone wrote: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml? > type=technologyNews&storyID=6344825&src=rss/ > technologyNews§ion=news > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:13:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32305-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47402 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:13:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 47392 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:13:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:13:11 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8975B7.8AFF%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/5/04 10:40 PM, Anthony Saunders at xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > "Frozen By Blizzard Winds" sounds like an Immortal song title... wasn't that by derek holzer or someone? > b. > Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me > "experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself > incorporated strange techno/industrial > elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal" > group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume > dirges and super low, room-rumbling you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think members of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is supposeed to be good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , which ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:29:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32306-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56616 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:29:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 56590 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:29:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:28:24 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for September 29, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/09/29 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > Scott Fields Ensemble > Christangelfox > (excerpt) > Christangelfox > 482 Music > > > > Sophie > Agnel/Christine > Wodrascka > Machine > Cuerdas > Emouvance > > > Alvin > Curran/Domenico > Sciajno > Someone to > Watch Over > What > Our Ur > Rossbin > Productions > > > > John Heward Trio > Let Them Pass > Three > Let them Pass > Drimala Records > > > > John Butcher/Gino > Robair > Fid > New Oakland Burr > Rastascan Records > > > > R. Friedi/B. 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Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:30:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32307-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57911 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:30:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 57901 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:30:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:29:50 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 17:30:02.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C5F7D20:01C4ABCA] White 1 and White 2 are single discs, not double releases, both are excellent, athough hyped by The Wire. They thank Russel Haswell in the liner notes. Each cd has three long tracks. Totally influenced by Sludge masters Earth. Good stuff. Scott > you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think members >of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is supposeed to be >good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , which >ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:36:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32308-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61324 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:36:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 61314 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:36:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:35:14 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [81.79.83.132] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 17:36:04.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[F43F0210:01C4ABCA] > > Plotkin was a main force in the oddball ('scuse me > > "experimental") metal outfit OLD--which itself > > incorporated strange techno/industrial > > elements--continues to play in Khanate (a "metal" > > group known for time-stoppingly slow high-volume > > dirges and super low, room-rumbling > you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think >members >of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is supposeed to >be >good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , which >ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. You should check out the 'Flight of the Behemoth' album by Sunn0)) Roughly half of the album is in collaberation with Merzbow (the tracks Bow1 and Bow2) with noise washes and avant guarde piano work over doom metal riffs slowed to a drone. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 17:58:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32309-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74476 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:57:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 74463 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:57:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:57:58 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] death metal into microsound To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Two "metal" artists who have definitely crossed into >the "experimental" (whatever that means) world, and at >times exist at these boudaries are James Plotkin and >Mick (MJ) Harris. if we're going in that direction, then i have to mention ulver, who were an open-minded black metal band with folk touches . over the years they added trip-hop beats and classical textures, then removed the metal part almost entirely, became dark electro-prog, created EPs of clicks and cuts mixed with melodic piano, and invited a host of underground names to remix their old work into experimental electronics and noise. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 19:08:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32310-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5651 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:08:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 5637 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:08:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:08:50 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] RE: Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <014901c4abd7$ea545450$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Done. But this is not my area so I have just put up a link to "The Fractal Music Lab" which seems to be a good online resource. http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/AlgoMus /Björn > could someone start a TWiki page with links for AlgoMus generators? > KIM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 21:27:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32311-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81918 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:26:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 81907 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:26:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:26:53 -0400 From: Michael Greenwood <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The White1 and White2 albums are, however, double lps and in the case of White2, there is an extra song on side 4 that is not on the compact disc version. White1 has an etching on that side. Speaking of SunnO)))...I would love to trade a brand spanking new and sealed copy of White2 (1000 pressed) for a new or used copy of 'Flight of the Behemoth' if anybody is interested. There can also be a small amount of money on my end as well. Anyway, get in touch if this sounds like your thing. All the best, Michael Greenwood Canada scott allison wrote: > White 1 and White 2 are single discs, not double releases, both are > excellent, athough hyped by The Wire. They thank Russel Haswell in the liner > notes. Each cd has three long tracks. Totally influenced by Sludge masters > Earth. Good stuff. > > Scott > > > you might try the 'southern lord ' label. i'm no expert yet i think > members > >of Khanate are also in Sunn0>>> , whose double white disc is > supposeed to be > >good . there may even be a double white two. they're from seattle , > which > >ensures the highest qualities in musical taste. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:09:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32312-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97999 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:09:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 97988 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:09:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:09:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Valiquet <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you understand (or are willing to learn) some lisp, and your platform is mac, i've found http://www.koncon.nl/ACToolbox/ to be pretty friendly. i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. p > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:05:05 +0100 > To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > From: Gavin Stevens <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> > Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic > Music Genrators > Message-Id: > <20041006000505.799d1f2e.xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:07:38 EDT > xxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > > > > Hello is there anyone here that collects random or > algorithmic music > > generators? > > I like to find one that supports Musical forms > such as rondo ,A-B-C, > > Rhapsody Ect.. > > It must be able to save or export the songs As > Midi Files. > > I already have fractalmusic2000 and all of Paul > Whalley Programs > > prefer Freeware or on the cheap $50 or less. > thanks for any And All > > help Mg3Nc . > > Hi, > > I've got quite a collection that I backed-up to CD > from when I used to > run Windows. I'm not sure about structural detail > like rondo etc., > though. I'll take a look on the CD & see what I've > got. > > Another avenue worth exploring is to install the > superb Atari ST > emulator STeem (or XSteem for Linux), which opens up > a whole new > universe of fractal/algorithmic apps. > > I'll write more when I've looked at what I have. > > Gavin. > ===== Øä PnîáÃ`Ìgx9KlóS•Ìh´9»=œ®_®½ö±ql°<|Pô“ )”ì¹xS@‹ñìðeúë© Çñ=Ž>²åûMsØ›h#Õ×k·#Í6žü:´kB*÷Ú©¶½ö“™Gγü>u4ÖÿžŽ¾Ú÷ç5 À8¡ http://www3.telus.net/pinothefrog/ @ ½ø’ÈWϱïÚU¤IéѼž¹ÑmàÝs è+ý5E“)IÐ ÃBâÅ/²@A€gºžët(‹qÙÄ ¯–mè0%—íDcWïýŸ_Ÿ‰— þ[>¿B±¸ Ÿ_i}¾Ëï³5ý_/çËÿ,¿k—믾C`©rÉ?Ÿ Ä×îõ$2,‚µðÈd7’ ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:23:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32313-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6348 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:23:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 6325 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:23:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:23:00 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >if you understand (or are willing to learn) some lisp, >and your platform is mac, i've found >http://www.koncon.nl/ACToolbox/ to be pretty friendly. -Both Mac OS9 & Mac OS X. >i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. -Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... Paul Berg's ACToolbo is free. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:33:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32314-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11925 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:32:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 11914 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:32:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:32:54 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302bd8a22ab9e1a@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. >-Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have > too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... -I've have to correct that: ircam's program is called Open Music. Common Music also exists and uses the C-language. AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:46:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32315-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16449 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:46:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 16439 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:46:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:45:55 -0400 From: david turgeon <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the > third > floor of this club (books on tape - ick). just to clear up a popular misconception: as anyone who would have seen him live could attest, books on tape does NOT in fact use a laptop. whatever is called "lame laptop crap" thus is likely to have been another act. & a personal note on the topic: having seen a lot of electronic shows in the past years, i can only say that books on tape's performances are never anything short of great & entertaining & the antithesis of the cliché of a "laptop show", not that there's anything wrong with the latter. i would have to wholeheartedly recommend that anybody with a wee bit of openness in them do check his live set out next time he comes to your city. that being said, have a nice day ~ david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 22:54:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32316-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21741 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:54:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 21731 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:54:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:54:50 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00c201c4abf7$7c519650$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think it might be free if we're talking about the Common Music to be found here: http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html Pointers to Public Domain Lisp-compilers to be found there too... I have put up pointers to both softwares over at the TWiki. /Björn >>i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. > -Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have > too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... > > Paul Berg's ACToolbo is free. > > AvS > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 23:12:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32317-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29124 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:12:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 29114 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:12:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:11:59 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <00c201c4abf7$7c519650$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130303bd8a2b80b169@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130301bd8a202c07d0@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Pointers to Public Domain Lisp-compilers to be found there too... -However: "Macintosh Common Lisp (MCL): A full-featured commercial CL available for Macintosh. Includes a native CLOS, true multi-processing, and a graphical interface." Which is what ircam's open music needs, for which yo have to pay (which is fine by me if you are willing...). AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 6 23:48:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32318-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39837 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:41:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 39826 invoked from network); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:41:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:44:26 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx each to their own... david turgeon wrote: > > funny - in toronto i was going to see some lame laptop crap on the > > third > > floor of this club (books on tape - ick). > > just to clear up a popular misconception: as anyone who would have seen > him live could attest, books on tape does NOT in fact use a laptop. > whatever is called "lame laptop crap" thus is likely to have been > another act. > > & a personal note on the topic: having seen a lot of electronic shows > in the past years, i can only say that books on tape's performances are > never anything short of great & entertaining & the antithesis of the > cliché of a "laptop show", not that there's anything wrong with the > latter. > > i would have to wholeheartedly recommend that anybody with a wee bit of > openness in them do check his live set out next time he comes to your > city. > > that being said, > > have a nice day > ~ david > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 00:53:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32319-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65731 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:53:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 65720 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:53:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:53:20 -0400 From: ndkent <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] sad songs To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? empathy is relieving though doesn't sound quite so poetic > not sure if sad and dark are the same thing. why do people love blade > runner so? > jean-pierre jeunet? anne rice? there is beauty in darkness. and while > i have never > heard that quote, it's very nice... If done well it's constructing a world with a focus on a mood, a narrowing of emotions. > even though i don't consider myself sad. at > least anymore. i do love anger though. i wish there was more in > microsound. punk > is a beautiful expression of the human condition. there's bit of punk > in all > things great. There are numerous exceptions but I'm convinced by and large microsound is more about process and experimenting. I mean I'm sure it can be microsound and express a mood. While I'm sure one can interpret something as having more of one kind of mood than another, but still, I mostly hear people expressing the desire not to consciously set a mood. ndkent http://www.artskool.biz/jem/ndkent/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 01:18:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32320-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77011 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:18:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 77001 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:18:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10708 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qFxybt6ikSjVw1HMGX3CpA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qFxybt6ikSjVw1HMGX3CpA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This whole thing about "sadness" and "darkness" seems to me to be waaay off the point when talking about certainly the power-electronics field but also a lot of music that you are lumping into these larger groups, be it metal, industrial, what have you. There always seems to be a lot of other weird cultural and post(yaaaawn)modern detritus clumped to it. People didn't chose analog and trash because it's angstier or angrier, they chose weird broken down stuff because of it's reto or contemporary or cool or uncool associations. Also it relates to primal musical stuff, like the resurrection of dead flesh, long ago being a turtle shell or antelope horn something and nowadays being a telephone or some other garbage. And there's a lot of other really specific cultural push and pull that people can't describe but can sense, stuff that will probably not survive more than like a decade of cultural memory or about a 500 mile geographic radius, but who cares what our grandkids are going to think of our music anyways. All this shit went down with punk too, but people seem to remember it only in terms of really general descriptions like "angry." Also, mr. Wolf Eyes and their label isn't noise guy, didn't Kevin Drumm record for both Mego and the American Tapes/Wolf Eyes label Hanson? Whether or not I spelled Kevin's name right just now, you have to agree that it's noise. So there. --Boundary_(ID_qFxybt6ikSjVw1HMGX3CpA)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 01:32:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32321-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84401 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:32:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 84391 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:32:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:31:53 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal X-Originating-IP: [141.156.38.239] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2004 01:32:00.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[71304E40:01C4AC0D] Cool, didnt know that about the lp's, also didnt mean to come off with additude or anything. best scott >The White1 and White2 albums are, however, double lps and in the case of >White2, there is an extra song on side 4 that is not on the compact disc >version. White1 has an etching on that side. > >Speaking of SunnO)))...I would love to trade a brand spanking new and sealed >copy of White2 (1000 pressed) for a new or used copy of 'Flight of the >Behemoth' if anybody is interested. There can also be a small amount of money >on my end as well. Anyway, get in touch if this sounds like your thing. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 01:50:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32322-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91407 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:49:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 91396 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:49:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10708 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YoSoBArQxFkSmoV28cRbmg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_YoSoBArQxFkSmoV28cRbmg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that last post there, guys. I have a habit of getting ahead of myself sometimes... Oh, while I'm here, anyone hear or know anything by that Konono No1 band yet? I don't have music but the concept and pictures alone are making my mouth water. --Boundary_(ID_YoSoBArQxFkSmoV28cRbmg)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 02:42:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32323-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10042 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:42:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 10023 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:42:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:56:57 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs broken down In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600bd8a608367b4@[64.63.223.65]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >People didn't chose analog and trash because it's >angstier or angrier, they chose weird broken down stuff because of >it's reto or >contemporary or cool or uncool associations. in the past people used that stuff because it's all they had access to or could afford. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 05:13:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32324-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50940 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:13:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 50930 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:13:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 05:12:08 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound vs death metal vs cage X-Originating-IP: [141.156.38.239] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2004 05:13:00.0916 (UTC) FILETIME=[50E85B40:01C4AC2C] Funny, found this by accident, doing some research, ended up in the archives for a list about silence and Cage, anyway there is an interesting thread titled "Cage as Forerunner of Heavy Metal?" Interesting related reading from the past. http://www.newalbion.com/artists/cagej/silence/html/1998q1/0145.html best Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 06:47:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32325-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78401 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:47:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 78390 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:47:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Davignon <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound vs death metal In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From Aquariusrecords.org.... LOPEZ, FRANCISCO Untitled 104 (Alien8) cd 14.98 I kid you not. This is the album where Lopez goes metal. Not the recording of sheet metal resonance, not the amplified vibrations of metal molecules, not even the inactivity of two pieces of sheet metal thoughtfully sitting alone in a room with nothing to ponder but their own existential (in)audibility. The normally sedate Lopez goes metal like Emperor, Slayer, or Cradle of Filth. If anybody has recently witnessed the cascading power of Lopez's recent live shows, then "Untitled 104" is certainly not a surprise. Of course, Lopez sets everything up with 4 minutes of his usual silence, before a tumultuous assault of sampled metal blast beats destroys any semblence of serenity. Lopez layers wave after wave of rhythmic clatter that reveals an incredible amount of textural noise. One blast beat takes the aural center stage, and you find yourself asking "Huh? Is this Cannibal Corpse? Or was that last one from Morbid Angel? I don't know." (Actually, we suspect that all the samples are from one band, but even the metal minds here at AQ haven't confidently guessed which one.) Lopez could have unwittingly devised the ultimate trivia contest for metalheads to name the sample. 35 minutes pass (35 head spinning, if not head banging minutes) and then the metal rhythms stop. Ten more minutes of silence provide the coda. While this record is really fucking good (indeed, it's one of Jim's favorites of the year along with Reynols' "Blank Tapes"), it is also another example of the academic / art world colonization of metal. Like Matthew Barney's awe-inspiring image in "Cremaster 2" of Dave Lombardo hammering at his drum kit behind the sound of swarming bees, Lopez's "Untitled 104" effectively translates the pure masculine power of metal to an audience who may not care for the, uh, aesthetics of metal. Fortunately, it appears that Lopez and Barney do not approach metal with a snobbish irony (like Harmony Korine's reprehensible photo-enlargements of black metal album covers that sold for tens of thousands of dollars), but such appropriation nevertheless marginalizes metal as nothing more than a texture or an attitude, far from the vibrant and deviant culture that it is. Rant aside, if this record causes one fan of Bernhard Gunter to get into Burzum, then, as far as Aquarius Records is concerned, Lopez has succeeded. Recommended. Realaudio: http://www.aquariusrecords.org/audio/franciscolopezu104.rm (I can't confirm that the link works. Realaudio hasn't worked correctly on any of my computers in years. Each "upgrade" gets worse. The newest one doesn't play music but does play tv commercials when I don't ask it to.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 10:08:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32327-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 06:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31136 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:08:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 31113 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:08:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:08:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Niko Skorpio <xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: microsound vs death metal! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx How about: REPTILJAN: Pangrenade http://www.someplaceelse.net/sound/lores/028_reptiljan_pangrenade.mp3 (lo-res mp3) It's from the Reptiljan / Ibrahim Terzic split 7". http://www.someplaceelse.net/releases/?id=spe7sp03028 Reptiljan will play live in Turku, Finland tomorrow. We'll probably share the live recording as mp3 afterwards, so if the above turns you on keep an eye on us. "Pangrenade" is a year old now so the sound has (d)evolved a bit. Niko -- record label ....... http://www.someplaceelse.net personal ................. http://nikoskorpio.net graphic design ............... http://moopica.com random chaos ................... http://kaaos.org Some Place Else | Box 685 | 20101 Turku | Finland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 13:20:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32328-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75703 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:20:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 75693 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:20:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:23:18 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx what? no mood? yikes. might as well start lining up for the lobotomies. what is great art without mood or emotion? ndkent wrote: > > ever heard, sad songs make sad people happy? > > empathy is relieving though doesn't sound quite so poetic > > > not sure if sad and dark are the same thing. why do people love blade > > runner so? > > jean-pierre jeunet? anne rice? there is beauty in darkness. and while > > i have never > > heard that quote, it's very nice... > > If done well it's constructing a world with a focus on a mood, a > narrowing of emotions. > > > even though i don't consider myself sad. at > > least anymore. i do love anger though. i wish there was more in > > microsound. punk > > is a beautiful expression of the human condition. there's bit of punk > > in all > > things great. > > There are numerous exceptions but I'm convinced by and large microsound > is more about process and experimenting. I mean I'm sure it can be > microsound and express a mood. While I'm sure one can interpret > something as having more of one kind of mood than another, but still, I > mostly hear people expressing the desire not to consciously set a mood. > > ndkent > http://www.artskool.biz/jem/ndkent/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 13:51:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32329-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88009 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:51:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 87999 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:51:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:51:50 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Matthew Mitchell <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I think that, generally, attempts to self-consciously inject mood into music largely do not succeed. Conversely, attempts to eliminate emotion or mood from music that is self-consciously 'experimental' probably rarely succeed also. For me, this works if emotion or mood is expanded a bit beyond the realm happy/sad/angry/emoticon level. The spirit in which something is made is likely to come across regardless of the intent or awareness of the creator, I suspect. Spirit would actually be a better term here than mood, probably. -matt mitchell >>what? no mood? yikes. might as well start lining up for the lobotomies. what is great art without mood or emotion? > > There are numerous exceptions but I'm convinced by and large microsound > is more about process and experimenting. I mean I'm sure it can be > microsound and express a mood. While I'm sure one can interpret > something as having more of one kind of mood than another, but still, I > mostly hear people expressing the desire not to consciously set a mood. www.mattmitchell.us Listen to free music, read the blog, sign the guestbook! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 15:18:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32330-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21193 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:18:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 21182 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:18:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:21:18 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx that's why i play the penfield mood organ on all my tracks:) a Matthew Mitchell wrote: > I think that, generally, attempts to self-consciously inject mood into music largely do not succeed. Conversely, attempts to eliminate emotion or mood from music that is self-consciously 'experimental' probably rarely succeed also. For me, this works if emotion or mood is expanded a bit beyond the realm happy/sad/angry/emoticon level. The spirit in which something is made is likely to come across regardless of the intent or awareness of the creator, I suspect. Spirit would actually be a better term here than mood, probably. > > -matt mitchell > > >>what? no mood? yikes. might as well start lining up for the lobotomies. > what is great art without mood or emotion? > > > > > There are numerous exceptions but I'm convinced by and large microsound > > is more about process and experimenting. I mean I'm sure it can be > > microsound and express a mood. While I'm sure one can interpret > > something as having more of one kind of mood than another, but still, I > > mostly hear people expressing the desire not to consciously set a mood. > > www.mattmitchell.us > Listen to free music, read the blog, sign the guestbook! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 15:39:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32331-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29325 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:39:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 29314 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:39:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:39:44 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Konono No1 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <018a01c4ac83$de9d23b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There is actually a mp3 posted at http://www.crammed.be/konono/ I like the amplified and distorted thumb pianos. /björn ----- Original Message ----- From: <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs > Sorry about that last post there, guys. I have a habit of getting ahead of > myself sometimes... > Oh, while I'm here, anyone hear or know anything by that Konono No1 band > yet? > I don't have music but the concept and pictures alone are making my mouth > water. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley tomorrow night will be the debut of our new format, framework:focus, which will alternate with our normal framework broadcasts for the remainder of this year. each edition of framework:focus will be centered on a single artist, project, or theme, mixing recording, composition, readings and interviews into a single sound piece. this first edition focuses on the radiophonic works of eric la casa, long time phonographer, composer and radio artist based in paris, france. in this edition we listen to excerpts from three of his radio works: two collaborations with another regular framework contributor, jean-luc guionnet, alerte au detour de rien (an extract from a radio essay on background noise), and effets de silence (extracted from the wind-themed program vents sur ecoute). the third is a radio portrait of serbian artist arsenije jovanovic entitled l'inspir du rivage, topographie sonore d'un isolement: a. jovanovic (inhalation of the shore, a sonic topography of an isolation: a. jovanovic). for any more information on la casa and his work, you can see his website at http://ascendre.free.fr. this edition will be repeated next wednesday, 13.10.04, at 11am bst ~ time zone converter: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/?h=11&mn=00&ap=am&mo=10&d=13&y=2004&f=GB again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_25xCDJAqQf61QY7Z+RhD6Q)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 16:51:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32333-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57569 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:51:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 57558 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:51:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:50:42 -0500 From: Jeffrey Matz <xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] sad songs X-Originating-IP: [209.175.47.158] X-Sender: xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx_xx@xxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2004 16:51:01.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[D395E9C0:01C4AC8D] y'know, i think mood is important... but i understand where matt is coming from when he says "spirit." since i think most of us are creating instrumental music, the overall tone becomes more subjective, there's no voice telling us what we should be thinking. at the same time, an album like "endless summer" carries a definite warmth to it, and i think that "spirit" of the music (as well as it's title) can translate into a certain mood, the same way a brinkmann piece might sound colder, or more sparse, and thus we translate that in to a sad or dark mood... now, to me, microsound's at it's best when the tonalities aren't totally alien. i love when i hear some new tracks people are making and the sources are vaguely reminiscent of something, instrumentally or otherwise because there's that hint of familiarity-- so with this familiarity idea, i'm currently making tracks based on bad photographs, blurry, accidental, overexposed, etc. i'm hoping that by leaving hints of my source material, i can carry this "spirit" idea without getting overly involved with setting a "mood" that's just my two cents... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 7 08:24:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32326-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 04:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8276 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:23:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 8265 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:23:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:22:03 -0700 From: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Fw: TRONDHEIM MATCHMAKING 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Message-id: <009d01c4ac9a$cba66fc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> Organization: gintas k MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PnUllLjIPn2uqC/k3Ylmog)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2004 08:23:48.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8246740:01C4AC46] --Boundary_(ID_PnUllLjIPn2uqC/k3Ylmog) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit WELCOME TO TRONDHEIM MATCHMAKING 2004 ! Trondheim Electronical Arts Centre welcomes you to the third annual minifestival for new technology and electronic arts: TRONDHEIM MATCHMAKING 2004! Supported by the Arts Council Norway, PNEK, and Trondheim kommune. 5 days : 5 places -wednesday 13th -thursday 14th -friday 15th -saturday 16th -sunday 17th of October 2004. Full programme and a lot of background stuff at http://www.teks.no/tmm2004 ! Trondheim Matchmaking is a meeting point to present innovative ideas and art projects, a place to ensure and develop competence and resources within new technology and electronic arts. New art projects with a need for technology – new technologies with a need for substance: an attempt to bind together resources and competence within the field. Till this year's festival, like last year, we've invited international capacities, that in addition to local and national researchers and artists present a very diverse set of art- and research- projects within new technologies and electronical art. All together more than 60 participants! In addition to presentations and concerts at Blue Garden, we arrange, in cooperation with Theater AvantGarden performances with Verdensteateret, Kreutzer Kompani and VideoHomeTraining at Trondheim Kunstmuseum and TAG. New of this year is that we curate and produce an exhibition at Trøndelag Senter for Samtidskunst, opening saturday, October 16th. This year's festival is among other themes focusing on electronical art in public spaces. We see an increasing demand for electronic art as permanent public installations. This bring upon us a whole new range of issues to be mapped and discussed. PNEK, the Production Network for Electronic Arts, Norway, has in cocperation with NOTAM recently published a book on the subject. We have invited Janne Stang Dahl (PNEK coordinator) and co-editor of the book, "Elektronisk kunst i det offentlige rom" (Electronic Arts in Public Spaces) to enlighten this subject. Following up on this, we've brought a row full of artists to present a diverse set of artistic projects, like for instance: Natalie Jeremijenko, artist/ professor, UCSD, San Diego, "Fishy Interactions", human interaction with fish (for possible permanent location in Trondheim), Anna Hill, artist, Dublin: "Space Synnaps Systems" (sculptures in space), Even Westvang, artist, Oslo, "Nomen Nominandum" (digital decor. Byåsen skole), Helen Varley, netartist, London: "Upstage" (open-source application, creating a web-based venue for 'cyberformance'.), Bjarne Kvinnsland, composer, Oslo, "The Tunnel of Light". We take a closer look at the and demoscene, Multimedia art created by hacker and cracker artist; Lassi Tasajärvi, Helsinki, presents the first nordic book on the subject: "Demoscene: The Art of Real-Time". Digital lifestyle and interaction: Gisle Hannemyr, writer/ speaker, Oslo: "Digital lifestyle", Dag Svanes, researcher, NTNU, Trondheim: "Understanding the interactive experience", Lotte Sederholm, Örebro: "Interactive nordic sculpture park", John Hopkins, nomade: "A life with open-source code". CONCERTS: We are really pleased to present a truly strong concert program. XPLODING PLASTIX ends this year's festival saturday night! Other highlights are: Kelly Davis, Tokyo/ Oslo Gintas K, Vilnius Ryfylke, Oslo Nopia, Trondheim Audun Eriksen, Bergen VideoHomeTraining, Amsterdam Murmel, Trondheim Synkopat, Trondheim EXHIBITION: "eXistens" "eXistens" is a misspelling of the norwegian word "eksistens", [existence ]. The exhibition shows art projects where new life, or new realities, created through digital and electronic artworks are the focusing point. Some of the works seem to appear as autonomous identities, in their own universe and with their own life-cycle. 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Thu Oct 7 23:05:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32334-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55627 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:05:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 55611 invoked from network); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:05:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:05:40 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Copyright and Smiles To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000501c4acc2$2bbb8900$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Jeffrey Veen writes a bit about DJ Danger Mouse: http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000627.html I agree, in a way it is mostly our fault. enjoy, Eloy ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://groovylab.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 00:23:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32335-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 20:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 20:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91783 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:23:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 91773 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:23:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 01:23:19 +0100 From: murray ward <xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot?] Freize Art Fair X-Originating-IP: [217.43.203.22] X-Sender: xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c4accd$036e7420$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_aiqA0QcJnuBZ9MYgVYxfPA)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2004 00:23:02.0873 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9476C90:01C4ACCC] --Boundary_(ID_aiqA0QcJnuBZ9MYgVYxfPA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Any microsounders at the freize art far? I'm there for much of the weekend with friends but it might be nice to say hi if anybody's around. Best Murray --Boundary_(ID_aiqA0QcJnuBZ9MYgVYxfPA)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 02:21:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32336-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42275 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 02:20:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 42256 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 02:20:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:17:41 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Cc: Ray Rodriguex <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey Folks, We just discovered this site today http://jetgroove.com/ It contains music from Merck which we did not license them to sell nor are we receiving any payment from them for sales. We're wondering if any other labels they carry (they go heavy on electronic music) are also being sold by them w/o any notification or payment. It includes music from Warp, Botanica Del Jibaro, Mille Plateux, Hefty, and other others. Any information on if this service has contacted people about licensing their music for sale would be appreciated. The contacts provided on the site do not work. Also we have no problem w/ people sharing our music, but we do have a problem with people profiting from our music w/o compensating the label or the artists. Kind Regards, Andrew Jones xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx 407-927-7607 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 03:59:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32337-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84542 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:59:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 84523 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:59:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:56:31 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Possibly illegal mp3 sales site To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_DOU2WqNqa+YVvd7xieNjiQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_DOU2WqNqa+YVvd7xieNjiQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just so you know, someone tried downloading the unlicensed tracks and they don't let you. Peace, A Begin forwarded message: > From: "Robokoneko =^.^=" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Date: October 7, 2004 11:54:27 PM EDT > To: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> > Cc: Ray Rodriguex <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Subject: Possibly illegal mp3 sales site > > > Hey Andrew and Ray, > > Here is an excerpt from an email I just sent to pietro regarding the > site: > > ".....I have just registered a user account with jetgroove and I added > all the couchblip stuff to my shopping cart and they are all listed as > not yet available > so it looks like they are legit so far as they are not making our > music available until we sign their contract. Anyway I should be > notified by an automated email if they ever are made available on that > site " > > I just did the same for a random merck and hefty release and they were > also listed as not yet available so you can't buy them from the site. > > I have the original email jetgroove sent to us a while ago, I will > forward it to you both, we just didn't sign up for digital > distribution with them and yet they have gone to all this efoort to > list us on the site. It has a legitimate contact email. > > Thanks, > > xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx! > > > > > > > andrew jones wrote: > >> Hey Folks, >> >> We just discovered this site today >> http://jetgroove.com/ >> >> It contains music from Merck which >> we did not license them to sell nor >> are we receiving any payment from >> them for sales. We're wondering if any >> other labels they carry (they go heavy >> on electronic music) are also being sold >> by them w/o any notification or payment. >> It includes music from Warp, Botanica Del Jibaro, >> Mille Plateux, Hefty, and other others. >> >> Any information on if this service has contacted >> people about licensing their music for sale >> would be appreciated. The contacts provided >> on the site do not work. >> >> Also we have no problem w/ people sharing >> our music, but we do have a problem with people >> profiting from our music w/o compensating >> the label or the artists. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Andrew Jones >> xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx >> 407-927-7607 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --Boundary_(ID_DOU2WqNqa+YVvd7xieNjiQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 06:44:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32338-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 02:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 02:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26630 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:44:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 26615 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:44:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:43:57 +0100 From: Christopher Murphy <xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: http://jetgroove.com/ In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8BF5BD.C721%xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear All, I've seen numerous artists/labels posting about JetGroove's apparent lack of licensing, so one would have to assume that something is, in all probability, amiss here. If this is the case, it seems a shame that their assertions that they are: "Making any of your music desires come true." Are at the expense of artists already struggling to survive. However, I find it positive that the 'service' was only launched on Tuesday and within three days word is circulating extensively. Best, Christopher @ Fallt | """..NOW PLAYING..00.10.2004---||||... | 0000 | XXXX---- GRAMM | PERSONAL ROCK --------------------- <> | XXXX---- VLADISLAV DELAY | ARCHIVE MP3S ----------- \\ | 0000 \\\\..\\\\ http://www.fallt.com | xxxx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 07:10:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32339-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34860 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:10:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 34847 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:10:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:10:03 -0400 From: taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] jetgroove X-Sender: taylor%xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100526bd8becc1e711@[10.0.1.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi list, yes, it seems this JETGROOVE is operating illegally. there are over a half-dozen 12k releases listed on their site and i have never been contacted by them, let alone never even heard of them before. i read some posts claiming that they just opened and some of this material is "not yet available".. yet they should not be advertising it on their site with prices if they have not even contacted the labels yet. their business tactics are sketchy at best, and it seems they are operating illegally. PLEASE DO NOT BUY MP3S FROM THIS WEBSITE. -- .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12k | LINE | HAPPY WWW.12K.COM NOW: CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] CD: January [Spekk, Japan] CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ Rotovision, UK ] SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ Ecoute | Centre Pomidou | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 LIVE: Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 07:50:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32340-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44271 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:50:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 44261 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:50:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:54:44 -0400 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx spekk - http://jetgroove.com/release/99806/Taylor_Deupree-January-Spekk-CD.html ? On Oct 7, 2004, at 10:17 PM, andrew jones wrote: > Hey Folks, > > We just discovered this site today > http://jetgroove.com/ > > It contains music from Merck which > we did not license them to sell nor > are we receiving any payment from > them for sales. We're wondering if any > other labels they carry (they go heavy > on electronic music) are also being sold > by them w/o any notification or payment. > It includes music from Warp, Botanica Del Jibaro, > Mille Plateux, Hefty, and other others. > > Any information on if this service has contacted > people about licensing their music for sale > would be appreciated. The contacts provided > on the site do not work. > > Also we have no problem w/ people sharing > our music, but we do have a problem with people > profiting from our music w/o compensating > the label or the artists. > > Kind Regards, > Andrew Jones > xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > 407-927-7607 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 08:09:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32341-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47569 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:09:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 47559 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:09:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:09:16 +0200 From: Jan Larsson <xxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: Sv: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 213.115.39.208 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8C17CC.528B%xxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It is apparently a beta-test of their site. So it may simply be bad judgement on their part by including wishful test-data in their public beta. Or they may be thieves. From their press-release: "Today the Beta Version launches. It is fully operational, but not all of the content is available for purchase. The rest could be put on hold and will be available later. By the end of the year JetGroove expects to launch next version, which will have several features added and most of the catalog available." Den 04-10-08 09.54, skrev "Ben" <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: > spekk - > > http://jetgroove.com/release/99806/Taylor_Deupree-January-Spekk-CD.html > > ? > > > > > On Oct 7, 2004, at 10:17 PM, andrew jones wrote: > >> Hey Folks, >> >> We just discovered this site today >> http://jetgroove.com/ >> >> It contains music from Merck which >> we did not license them to sell nor >> are we receiving any payment from >> them for sales. We're wondering if any >> other labels they carry (they go heavy >> on electronic music) are also being sold >> by them w/o any notification or payment. >> It includes music from Warp, Botanica Del Jibaro, >> Mille Plateux, Hefty, and other others. >> >> Any information on if this service has contacted >> people about licensing their music for sale >> would be appreciated. The contacts provided >> on the site do not work. >> >> Also we have no problem w/ people sharing >> our music, but we do have a problem with people >> profiting from our music w/o compensating >> the label or the artists. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Andrew Jones >> xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx >> 407-927-7607 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > > www.seasonalbk.net > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 08:25:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32342-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51607 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:25:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 51595 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:25:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 01:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: Sv: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site In-reply-to: <BD8C17CC.528B%xxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ygx3aGvCyen1D1h4gMrnxw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ygx3aGvCyen1D1h4gMrnxw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't been able to access the URL... I remember getting an invitation e-mail from them a while ago, but never had time to investigate it, so this makes me wonder if any a/O releases are listed there without permission as well... Best, Dale http://www.and-oar.org/ Jan Larsson <xxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> wrote: It is apparently a beta-test of their site. So it may simply be bad judgement on their part by including wishful test-data in their public beta. Or they may be thieves. From their press-release: "Today the Beta Version launches. It is fully operational, but not all of the content is available for purchase. The rest could be put on hold and will be available later. By the end of the year JetGroove expects to launch next version, which will have several features added and most of the catalog available." --Boundary_(ID_ygx3aGvCyen1D1h4gMrnxw)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 08:29:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32343-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54878 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:29:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 54868 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:29:36 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:29:24 +0300 (EEST) From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove In-reply-to: <p06100526bd8becc1e711@[10.0.1.4]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100526bd8becc1e711@[10.0.1.4]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi everyone, this comes as a surprise and as a shock, too, to me. i was contacted by jetgroove last spring, and their plan and operations seemed legitimate to me. i've signed an official contract with them to sell and distribute our releases (abflug) online. interestingly, our releases are not yet shown online on the beta test site (or whatever they call it now), but will be added to the library in the next couple of days, they say. i think it's really, really shitty that they've listed releases that they have not officially licensed on the website, regardless of whether people can actually buy them now or not. those of you who've had trouble contacting them to ask them what the f**k's going on, if you want to contact me privately i can give you the e-mail addresses and names of the people that i've been dealing with. i've got a reply from jetgroove quite quickly every time i've talked with them. karri o. abflug www.abflugrec.com > hi list, > > yes, it seems this JETGROOVE is operating illegally. there are over a > half-dozen 12k releases listed on their site and i have never been > contacted by them, let alone never even heard of them before. > > i read some posts claiming that they just opened and some of this > material is "not yet available".. yet they should not be advertising > it on their site with prices if they have not even contacted the > labels yet. > > their business tactics are sketchy at best, and it seems they are > operating illegally. > > PLEASE DO NOT BUY MP3S FROM THIS WEBSITE. > > -- > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 12k | LINE | HAPPY > WWW.12K.COM > > NOW: > CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] > CD: January [Spekk, Japan] > CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] > BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ Rotovision, UK ] > SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ Ecoute | Centre Pomidou > | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 > PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 > > LIVE: > Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 10:21:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32344-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83714 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:21:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 83704 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:21:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 03:21:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Cordell Klier <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal In-reply-to: <p06100526bd8becc1e711@[10.0.1.4]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I just found my "winter" disc on the site as well... I've never heard of them before either, not cool. I hope that Nicolas from adnoseam has sanctioned this - cuz if not: Do not DL anything of mine or anything from DOCTSECT or ADNOISEAM from these guys untill I find out more about this. Cordell Klier www.doctsect.com www.adnoiseam.net --- taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote: > hi list, > > yes, it seems this JETGROOVE is operating > illegally. there are over a > half-dozen 12k releases listed on their site > and i have never been > contacted by them, let alone never even heard > of them before. > > i read some posts claiming that they just > opened and some of this > material is "not yet available".. yet they > should not be advertising > it on their site with prices if they have not > even contacted the > labels yet. > > their business tactics are sketchy at best, and > it seems they are > operating illegally. > > PLEASE DO NOT BUY MP3S FROM THIS WEBSITE. > > -- > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 12k | LINE | HAPPY > WWW.12K.COM > > NOW: > CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo > [Plop, Japan] > CD: January [Spekk, Japan] > CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 > [Bip-Hop, France] > BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ > Rotovision, UK ] > SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ > Ecoute | Centre Pomidou > | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 > PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | > coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 > > LIVE: > Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Fri Oct 8 11:01:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32345-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95341 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:01:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 95331 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:01:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:01:03 +0100 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004b01c4ad26$1acb9a90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx well, now i'm upset. they haven't even *bothered* to list any of *my* releases without my permission! aren't i good enough for them?? ; ) patrick ps-i had look for and/oar as well, dale, and fear not, my friend, you're not good enough either... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 11:15:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32346-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99002 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:15:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 98992 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:15:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:14:26 -0400 From: Patrick Carey <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: powernoise X-Originating-IP: [128.100.75.48] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2004 11:15:04.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F56CB60:01C4AD28] * chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >i understood powernoise and power electronics to be pretty much the >same thing, all derived from whitehouse and the more extreme TG >tracks. lots of screaming over loud analog gear pushed to its limits >and/or distorted beyond belief. people like con-dom, bloodyminded, >and slogun. * Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>: >I on the other hand was under the impression that "power noise" and >"power electronics" were very different. PE being Whitehouse, Sutcliffe >Jugend, Genocide Organ, Con-Dom, Grey Wolves, Taint, Grunt, Slogun, >etc, and PN being Ant-Zen style rhythmic noise. This is pretty much how I've always seen it. PN being a *much* more recent strain of "noise", with emphasis on rhythm, and even "beats" (evolving from, among other things, stuff like The Klinik, PIAS & KK bands; take Dirk Ivens f.e. going from The Klinik -> Dive -> Sonar, certainly a staple of modern PN), unlike most of the PE artists mentioned above. No doubt many of the young Ant-Zen'rs have GO, WH, early SPK & TG in their bins though. * xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx: >I was kind of surprised to hear talk from the low-key microsound board >about power electronics-style noise... In Michigan we have Wolf Eyes >and the American Tapes label... Over in Minneapolis is the Freedom From >label (http://www.freedom-from.com/)... If you go to their links page >you will find a bunch of labels that have noisyness on them, you probably >haven't heard of a lot of it. Then of course there's Providence RI, from >which comes the Load records label (http://www.loadrecords.com/). This >label houses a good synthesis of noise and metal... >Uh, that's where most American power electronics seems to be coming >from these days, so go check it out. I wouldn't classify Wolf Eyes, much on American Tapes, or anything on Load as "Power Electronics". Freedom From comes much closer to having artists that fit this description, but as with AT and Load, most are just "noisy". I'm certainly unaware of recent developments in this area, but I always thought folks like Slogun, Taint, Bloodyminded (ex-IA, a WH clone) & Knurl were the top of the NA PE contingent. -Patrick NP: Rokia Traoré - "Bowmboï" [Brilliant gig a few nights back] _________________________________________________________________ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 11:31:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32347-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2677 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:31:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 2666 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:31:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:31:28 +0100 From: j izam <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001801c4ad2a$5a5b2190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ive had a look and emailed a few freinds with listed stuff on there and no one has been informed . they are also selling some artists tracks which the artists havent even named as such ? and dont exist . . ..very odd.Totally illegal use and my guess is its just a ripoff as some of the stuff they are selling doesnt actually exist ! My suggestion is people mail every forum they can and ask everyone on there to pass on an email to everyone they can think of , word soon gets around.What amazes me is the amount of web work that goes into this kind of site .Its totally illegal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cordell Klier" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal > I just found my "winter" disc on the site as > well... I've never heard of them before either, > not cool. I hope that Nicolas from adnoseam has > sanctioned this - cuz if not: > > Do not DL anything of mine or anything from > DOCTSECT or ADNOISEAM from these guys untill I > find out more about this. > > Cordell Klier > www.doctsect.com > www.adnoiseam.net > > > --- taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote: > > > hi list, > > > > yes, it seems this JETGROOVE is operating > > illegally. there are over a > > half-dozen 12k releases listed on their site > > and i have never been > > contacted by them, let alone never even heard > > of them before. > > > > i read some posts claiming that they just > > opened and some of this > > material is "not yet available".. yet they > > should not be advertising > > it on their site with prices if they have not > > even contacted the > > labels yet. > > > > their business tactics are sketchy at best, and > > it seems they are > > operating illegally. > > > > PLEASE DO NOT BUY MP3S FROM THIS WEBSITE. > > > > -- > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > 12k | LINE | HAPPY > > WWW.12K.COM > > > > NOW: > > CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo > > [Plop, Japan] > > CD: January [Spekk, Japan] > > CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 > > [Bip-Hop, France] > > BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ > > Rotovision, UK ] > > SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ > > Ecoute | Centre Pomidou > > | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 > > PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | > > coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 > > > > LIVE: > > Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Fri Oct 8 11:47:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32348-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9832 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:46:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 9822 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:46:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Cordell Klier <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly patrick ;) In-reply-to: <004b01c4ad26$1acb9a90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm all about mp3 trading, but that kinda stuff I really dislike. I can't believe these people are doing this..., makes me wonder if that company is run by "someone" to prove "a point". In the last 30 years there has been a lot of that kinda garbage popping up in modern media to cause such reactions so that there is more legal attention to an issue. And considering the state of cash flow in the music industry these days...hhmmm... TO SUPER-PATRICK: I personally think your good enough to get ripped off patrick...LOL... and if I was a sheister like these people seem to be, i'd illllegalllly sell your music too - hehe.. :)) ...*giggle*... but.. in all seriousness, I'm glad you aren't getting it in the old backside like poor taylor.. I think I saw 10 (or so) 12k releases there... geeez.. talk about missing scruples. Cordell Klier www.doctsect.com --- ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > well, now i'm upset. they haven't even > *bothered* to list any of *my* > releases without my permission! aren't i good > enough for them?? > > ; ) > > patrick > > ps-i had look for and/oar as well, dale, and > fear not, my friend, you're not > good enough either... _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 11:53:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32349-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11894 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:53:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 11877 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:53:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 04:52:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Cordell Klier <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possible suspicion In-reply-to: <001801c4ad2a$5a5b2190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --- j izam <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: My suggestion is people > mail every forum they can and ask everyone on > there to pass on an email to > everyone they can think of , word soon gets > around.What amazes me is the > amount of web work that goes into this kind of > site .Its totally illegal. ...exactly why I think there maybe another agenda with this.. seems too clean and thought out.. almost.. well.. I'll leave it at that untill I research some more. Cordell Klier www.doctsect.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 11:59:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32350-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16320 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:59:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 16310 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:59:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:59:19 -0400 From: taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" X-Sender: taylor%xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi all, i emailed jetgrooves and find out why they were selling our material illegally. i received a nice form letter back (not even personally addressed) and this is their explanation for illegally putting our titles on their site: "The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts with you on friendly term" what a way to grab our attention, eh? they really need a better way to get a label's attention (such as... emailing them! what a new concept).. other than putting false information up to trick customers (and labels) into thinking we have agreements. please do not patronize this site. -- .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12k | LINE | HAPPY WWW.12K.COM NOW: CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] CD: January [Spekk, Japan] CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ Rotovision, UK ] SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ Ecoute | Centre Pomidou | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 LIVE: Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 12:06:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32353-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19736 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:06:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 19726 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:06:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:03:53 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001301c4ad2e$e1958570$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > "The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing > aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts with > you on friendly term" first piss someone off, to make contact on friendly terms????????? th °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 12:05:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32351-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17795 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:05:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 17785 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:05:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:04:09 +0000 From: stephane CANCEL <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] jetgroove X-Originating-IP: [195.101.118.14] X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2004 12:05:03.0432 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B16AC80:01C4AD2F] a forum about this now http://www.breakbeatworldwide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=609 _________________________________________________________________ Dialoguez en direct et gratuitement avec vos amis sur http://g.msn.fr/FR1001/866 MSN Messenger ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 12:05:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32352-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18701 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:05:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 18682 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:05:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:05:20 +0300 (EEST) From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" In-reply-to: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > "The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing > aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts > with > you on friendly term" friendly term? i think that sounds like bullshit - an explanation put together in haste. although it's possible, too, that this all is their "well" thought out plan. either way, i think it's really not the right thing to do, and, rather than brings them new contacts, just pisses a lot of people off. karri www.abflugrec.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 12:14:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32354-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22693 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:14:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 22681 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:14:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:10:36 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" In-reply-to: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx not to mention it's false advertising. tons of ppl pay 20 bucks to get an account and then can't even download the stuff they want. - A On Oct 8, 2004, at 7:59 AM, taylor deupree wrote: > hi all, > > i emailed jetgrooves and find out why they were selling our material > illegally. i received a nice form letter back (not even personally > addressed) and this is their explanation for illegally putting our > titles on their site: > > "The experince of showing your music on our website without > distributing > aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts > with > you on friendly term" > > what a way to grab our attention, eh? they really need a better way to > get a label's attention (such as... emailing them! what a new > concept).. other than putting false information up to trick customers > (and labels) into thinking we have agreements. > > please do not patronize this site. > > > -- > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 12k | LINE | HAPPY > WWW.12K.COM > > NOW: > CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] > CD: January [Spekk, Japan] > CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] > BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ Rotovision, UK ] > SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ Ecoute | Centre Pomidou | > Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 > PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 > > LIVE: > Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 12:20:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32355-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25336 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:20:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 25326 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:20:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:17:12 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal In-reply-to: <001801c4ad2a$5a5b2190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <001801c4ad2a$5a5b2190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx A. this is already is the talk of the town in some places. B. strangely jet groove did contact some people before hand and ask to host their music. Weird, huh? it takes 5 seconds to BCC their anonymous intro letter to all 500 or so labels on the sight, and they couldn't even take the time to do it, but yes they supposively are kinda legit. In fact Merck might sign the contract w/ them if they ever actually send one to us. C. I forget what C was cuz I haven't slept yet... man it's been a long day. OH YEAH, labels that DID NOT sign with them and even refused the terms of their contract are STILL LISTED FOR SALE (although yes you can't actually buy them). Hence, they get more sketchy. on a side note I start everday in a moral summersault of confusion. PEace, A On Oct 8, 2004, at 7:31 AM, j izam wrote: > > > ive had a look and emailed a few freinds with listed stuff on > there and no one has been informed . they are also selling some artists > tracks which the artists havent even named as such ? and dont exist . . > .very odd.Totally illegal use and my guess is its just a ripoff as > some of > the stuff they are selling doesnt actually exist ! My suggestion is > people > mail every forum they can and ask everyone on there to pass on an > email to > everyone they can think of , word soon gets around.What amazes me is > the > amount of web work that goes into this kind of site .Its totally > illegal. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cordell Klier" <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal > > >> I just found my "winter" disc on the site as >> well... I've never heard of them before either, >> not cool. I hope that Nicolas from adnoseam has >> sanctioned this - cuz if not: >> >> Do not DL anything of mine or anything from >> DOCTSECT or ADNOISEAM from these guys untill I >> find out more about this. >> >> Cordell Klier >> www.doctsect.com >> www.adnoiseam.net >> >> >> --- taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote: >> >>> hi list, >>> >>> yes, it seems this JETGROOVE is operating >>> illegally. there are over a >>> half-dozen 12k releases listed on their site >>> and i have never been >>> contacted by them, let alone never even heard >>> of them before. >>> >>> i read some posts claiming that they just >>> opened and some of this >>> material is "not yet available".. yet they >>> should not be advertising >>> it on their site with prices if they have not >>> even contacted the >>> labels yet. >>> >>> their business tactics are sketchy at best, and >>> it seems they are >>> operating illegally. >>> >>> PLEASE DO NOT BUY MP3S FROM THIS WEBSITE. >>> >>> -- >>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> 12k | LINE | HAPPY >>> WWW.12K.COM >>> >>> NOW: >>> CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo >>> [Plop, Japan] >>> CD: January [Spekk, Japan] >>> CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 >>> [Bip-Hop, France] >>> BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ >>> Rotovision, UK ] >>> SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ >>> Ecoute | Centre Pomidou >>> | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 >>> PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | >>> coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 >>> >>> LIVE: >>> Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> website: http://www.microsound.org >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? 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Fri Oct 8 12:21:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32356-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26732 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:20:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 26722 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:20:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:20:56 +0100 From: ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly patrick ;) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007001c4ad31$436ebcb0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > TO SUPER-PATRICK: I personally think your good > enough to get ripped off patrick...LOL... and if > I was a sheister like these people seem to be, > i'd illllegalllly sell your music too - hehe.. thanks for the show of support - if you want i can write up a contract by which you can illegally sell my music, then you won't have to feel guilty about it, and i won't have to feel left out... p --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Fri Oct 8 12:46:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32357-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33015 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 32719 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:50:04 +0100 From: douglas benford <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Sprawl next week: Cooper, Headley, Un Caddie X-Sender: xxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v04003a0abd8c3c771932@[81.156.49.241]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ================================ S P R A W L October 2004 bulletin ================================ SPRAWL at the Charterhouse Bar, London DATE: weds 13th October live line up: MIKE COOPER (Hipshot/UK/ITALY) International musical explorer who covers variety of genres. His blues-based work has diversified to include improvised and electronic music, live music for silent films, radio art and sound installations. His cds latest Rayon Hula on his own Hipshot label. "Rayon Hula -"....a masterpiece of contemporary exotica." (David Toop in the Wire) "...the first entirely rewarding work of modern exotica.." (Jonathan Dean - Brainwashed). http://hometown.aol.co.uk/cooparia/hipshot.html GREG HEADLEY (USA) Los Angeles-based composer and guitarist Headley began in a relatively traditional vein of guitar experiments, moving into electronics and noise. The guitar is still apparent on his 4th album, A Bulletin on Vertigo (28 Angles, 2003), nine computer pieces that construct living sounds and then let them evolve in their artificial environment. Night Blooming and The Water's Fall radiate very dynamic and organic textures. Headley briefly flirts with rhythmic effects in This Too Is Unknown, but stops short of entering the fray of post-techno music. http://www.gregheadley.com UN CADDIE RENVERSÉ DANS L'HERBE (Brazil) - live aka Didac P. Lagarriga was born in Sao Paulo then moving Barcelona. His works are about unknown influences, specific temporary places, some souvenirs sampling older souvenirs, garden practices, pastiches and observations on not fitting in... He records for Hamburg's Dekorder, his own label oozebap, as well as Audiodregs, k-raa-k, amanita, tu'm. His music follows the rich tradition of Brazilian antropophagous concept, mixed with his own fictionidentity research, an amalgam of traditional instruments (mbira, balaphon, berimbau...) and digital processing. He performs all over the globe. "a series of steadily hypnotic, subtle and deeply satisfying revolutions." Chris Sharp, The Wire "Created with a deft touch and delicately poised - who knew microsound could be so dreamy? EI magazine, USA http://www.oozebap.org/music http://www.oozebap.org/renverse http://www.dekorder.com resident djs + curators Iris Garrelfs (BitTonic/germany/bip hop) si-cut.db (uk/bip hop/fallt/highpoint lowlife/tennis) NEW VENUE Upstairs at the Charterhouse bar 38 Charterhouse Street London EC1 tel: 020 7608 0858 email: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx http://www.charterhousebar.co.uk ADMISSION 4 pounds, concs. 3 pounds 7.30pm - 11.30pm Next Sprawls: Nov 10th: FM3 (Bip Hop/China), Gavin Starks, Alex Czinczel Dec 1st Xmas Edition: J-Lab, Tuner (Fr), Rashamon, e/n [no.signal] On the radio: Sprawl are part of the Small Pieces slot (in conjunction with [no.signal], Non Clickable, & D-fuse) on Resonance FM 104.4, midnight thru' to 1am BST (fridays). Next Sprawl show: October 22 http://www.resonancefm.com [] some related artist activities ================================ si-cut.db, Iris Garrelfs - live + dj sets ================================ OCT 15 IRIS GARRELFS - live Radio Art Riot at Frieze Art fair/Resonance FM 22:00 BST Iris Garrelfs performs, "(Talking) Space to Space" - a radio project composed from natural radio emissions captured by radio telescopes" Radio Space/Expanded Radio on Resonance FM 104.4 http://www.resonancefm.com OCT 19 IRIS GARRELFS - dj set Multi Vitamins @ Pool Bar. Free. 104-108 Curtain Road, London EC2 OCT 22 si-cut.db + Iris Garrelfs present Sprawl's Small Pieces show on Resonance FM, see above OCT 28 SI-CUT.DB live + NTSC + granny'ark New Forms Festival, Open Studios, 252 E 1st St., Vancouver, V5T1A6, Canada http://www.newformsfestival.com/ NOV 26th SI-CUT.DB live + stephan mathieu, alku, farmers manual & others Huddersfield, England http://www.ultrasound.ws DEC tbc SI-CUT.DB + IRIS GARRELFS Spirit of Gravity Brighton, England JAN 14 SI-CUT.DB live + DJ xx@xxx-xxx.xxx (fr.) Reset Electronic, Bern, Switzerland JAN 15 SI-CUT.DB live + DJ xx@xxx-xxx.xxx SAS, Delemon, Switzerland ================================ si-cut.db / iris garrelfs - releases ================================ JUST OUT RT-32 Acoustic.Space.Lab: Radio Astronomy DVD/CD with tracks constructed data from the VIRAC radio telescope by IRIS GARRELFS, TENNIS, SI-CUT.DB, scanner, kaffe matthews, rosy parlane + more http://acoustic.space.re-lab.net http://rixc.lv SI-CUT.DB remix of Pan/tone's 'Sans Adore' on Pant/tone double CD 'newfound urban calm' on Bip Hop [bleep 26/27] http://www.bip-hop.com SI-CUT.DB 'Offices at Night Vol 1 - Originals' recordings from 1999-2001 on Fallt. mastered by Benge. Part 1 of a 3 CD set to be continued... http://www.fallt.com/offices/index.html http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?merchID=14826 DOWNLOADS (free) SI-CUT.DB remix of a Rashamon's "Mates To Some Pilgrim" http://www.highpointlowlife.com/rashamonremixproject/ also 'Glad/e' ( - 3,500 downloads can't be wrong! ) http://www.highpointlowlife.com/downloads.shtml NOW ON ITUNES: SI-CUT.DB album 'find some shade' on Highpointlowlife, CD (hpll 006) mastered by Twerk. http://www.highpointlowlife.com/hpll006.shtml also on http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?merchID=13877 si-cut.db back catalogue & rarities can now be paid via paypal write to <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> for full list. FUTURE: new si-cut.db album on bip-hop, mastered by Twerk. compilation track on thinnerism.com IRIS GARRELFS: debut album due on Bip Hop ================================ TENNIS (si-cut.db + benge) ================================ OUT NOW: Acoustic.Space.Lab : Radio Astronomy CD/DVD see above. Upcoming tracks for Bip Hop generaton v.8 CD, and and the Tribryd unMix CD project, all TBA CURRENT: 'FURLINES' double CD including remixes http://www.bip-hop.com/ ALSO: original 1st Tennis album Wooden Sweets still available, info <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> THE SPRAWL WEBSITE ++ hosted by DFUSE ================================ ++ sprawl events plus EXCLUSIVELY thru' our website only release mail order of SPRAWL IMPRINT, SUBURBS OF HELL & PANTUNES classic 'retronica' catalogue. Paypal available. http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl/sprawl_label.htm http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl/sprawl_vaults.htm best wishes ================================ Iris Garrelfs [BitTonic] http://www.dfuse.com/BitTonic http://www.dfuse.com/iris si-cut.db [d.benford] http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/benford http://www.bip-hop.com/ http://www.highpointlowlife.com http://www.fallt.com http://www.background-records.de SPRAWL http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl/ website hosted by d-fuse.com E-MAIL <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 14:15:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32359-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72704 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:15:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 72694 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:15:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:10:21 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003001c4ad40$8efeec40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx andrew jones finds; > We just discovered this site today > http://jetgroove.com/ > > It contains music from Merck which > we did not license them to sell nor > are we receiving any payment from > them for sales. We're wondering if any > other labels they carry (they go heavy > on electronic music) are also being sold > by them w/o any notification or payment. Yeah. They "stock" Creme, even one of my own tracks from a compilation. (should anyone care for a minute of some moody stuff, it´s here; jetgroove.com/results.html?Submit2=Submit2&page=1&artist=31951 ). I accidentaly sugested that their server based search function might be vulnerable to going down under a load of, say, some individuals using that search a lot, say, at the same time. There is some discussion on that on the bullentin board at http://www.globaldarkness.com/ in our "discuss" section, should you be interested in things like that (and not mind a few electro and disco freaks). Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 14:53:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32360-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95301 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:53:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 95290 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:53:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:53:04 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_r5s98ufowfu/6e5YH8YUxg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_r5s98ufowfu/6e5YH8YUxg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit this from another website: Dear Sirs and Madams, My name is Ulukman Mamytov and I am the attorney for jetgroove.com. I bring you apologies from JetGroove for making you worry about your copyrights infringements and your music repertoire being presented on our website. I want to assure you that jetgroove.com having started a new Online Music Download Service pursues the objective of making your music more wellknown and accessible and ONLY BY LEGAL MEANS. That means we DO NOT SELL any of your music without obtaining a proper permission (License) from you or other respective rightholders. You can easily check this by trying to purchase any of you music. Everything that you choose to put in your cart will have status: "Not Available For Purchase Yet". It could only be put "ON HOLD". And we do not change that status untill the contract is signed and your permission is granted. In this case all of your music will be given "Allowed for Selling" status and people who have it in their shopping carts will be able to buy it. The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts with you on friendly terms with a perspective of mutually beneficial partnership. We’re glad to inform you that your music is getting popular indeed through our website and we can let you know at any time how many of your tracks were put on hold and which ones. However, we deeply understand your concerns and would like to assure you, if you find our relationships impossible, we will IMMEDIATELY delete all of your music from our music collection. Hope you’ll find our offer to make your music more popular through us rather reasonable and we can start that mutually beneficial partnership. Very Truly Yours, Ulukman Mamytov Jetgroove LLP Legal Department "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.alembic.me.uk --Boundary_(ID_r5s98ufowfu/6e5YH8YUxg)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 14:53:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32361-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96669 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:53:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 96652 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:53:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 670 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_DiBSki9hW3swkIaVEEWOLw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_DiBSki9hW3swkIaVEEWOLw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry, meant to say "this from another mailing list" "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" Henri Michaux www.alembic.me.uk --Boundary_(ID_DiBSki9hW3swkIaVEEWOLw)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 15:08:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32362-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5534 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:08:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 5524 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:08:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:08:28 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site In-reply-to: <xx.xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8C25AC.16C07%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Of note, > this from another website: > > > > Dear Sirs and Madams, > > My name is Ulukman Mamytov and I am the attorney for jetgroove.com. > > I bring you apologies from JetGroove for making you worry about your > copyrights infringements and your music repertoire being presented on > our website. I want to assure you that jetgroove.com having started a > new Online Music Download Service pursues the objective of making your > music more wellknown and accessible and ONLY BY LEGAL MEANS. > > That means we DO NOT SELL any of your music without obtaining a proper > permission (License) from you or other respective rightholders. You can > easily check this by trying to purchase any of you music. Everything > that you choose to put in your cart will have status: "Not Available For > Purchase Yet". The "yet" implies a future contract to both users and in the context of this letter, to the music owner. In law this is known as false advertising on the one hand and coercion on the other. The model of Jetgroove.com is good. Their business tactics are atrocious. One could quite easily send a CEASE & DESIST letter to JetGroove if one wished under the DMCA (as much as I detest the DMCA, at least make it work for you if you deem it necessary). They don't have permission, legally, to list any work as "yet." It could be argued that they must say: "Not Available for Purchase [1]." And the [1] must explain that they haven't entered into contractural negotiations with the owner of the music's rights and that the listing is purely hypothetical. tV > It could only be put "ON HOLD". And we do not change that > status untill the contract is signed and your permission is granted. In > this case all of your music will be given "Allowed for Selling" status > and people who have it in their shopping carts will be able to buy it. > > The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing > aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts > with you on friendly terms with a perspective of mutually beneficial > partnership. We¹re glad to inform you that your music is getting popular > indeed through our website and we can let you know at any time how many > of your tracks were put on hold and which ones. > > However, we deeply understand your concerns and would like to assure > you, if you find our relationships impossible, we will IMMEDIATELY > delete all of your music from our music collection. > > Hope you¹ll find our offer to make your music more popular through us > rather reasonable and we can start that mutually beneficial partnership. > > Very Truly Yours, > > Ulukman Mamytov > > Jetgroove LLP > > Legal Department > > > > > > > > > "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" > Henri Michaux > > www.alembic.me.uk > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy --- New School Philosophy -------- ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 15:14:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32363-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9709 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:14:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 9698 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:14:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:17:02 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ring tone project To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi another project idea: ring tones for cell phones i know some take midi and some take mp3s. the tech specs would need to be worked out. and my preference would be for a 3 second limit, but it can be pushed higher. any interest? -- \js ."^ ~ %http://or8.net/~johns --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 15:41:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32364-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24599 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:41:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 24589 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:41:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 11:41:14 -0400 From: Yatra <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Computer Music Journal To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00cd01c4ad4d$3e8de470$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_n+Ilg2nAmAjwGR3Yi6ofvQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_n+Ilg2nAmAjwGR3Yi6ofvQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, does anyone know where I can buy the issue / cd w/ CoH on it? Thanks, PB --Boundary_(ID_n+Ilg2nAmAjwGR3Yi6ofvQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 16:20:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32366-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42676 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:20:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 42664 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:20:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:23:38 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> <001301c4ad2e$e1958570$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx talk about scum... th_ost wrote: > > "The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing > > aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts > with > > you on friendly term" > > first piss someone off, to make contact on friendly terms????????? > > th > > °°° > th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer > acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego > > http://www.tomoroh.com/ > http://www.stiege44.com/ > http://www.skug.at/ > > >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, > representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a > standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. > made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets > wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but > no banjos.... > °°°°° > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 16:42:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32367-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56862 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:42:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 56852 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:42:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:44:04 +0100 From: "eric.namour" <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [n.s] | Instal on resonancefm: tonight 12-1am (gmt) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yvsKtbx8XRbjs665js9tZA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_yvsKtbx8XRbjs665js9tZA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello due tune-in/log-on to resonance fm 104.4 (www.resonancefm.com) tonight 12am (gmt) for our show on the Instal festival (details here below) thank you, e/n [no.signal] i: http://nosignal.slab.org -- [no.signal] | 'small pieces' presents Instal | brave music 16 - 17.09 | The Arches 253 Argyle St Glasgow | Scotland i: http://www.instal.org.uk tax: £15/£12 (day pass) | £22/@18 (festival pass) -- [where]: resonance FM 104.4 | london > everywhere (www.resonancefm.com) [when]: friday 08.10 | 12-1am gmt [what]: presentation of the 4th edition of Instal, hosting one of the most impressive line-up amongst this year's array of european 'experimental' festivals. Selection from current line-up will include: Charlemagne Palestine | Richard Youngs | Derek Bailey | Six Organs of Admittance | Current93 | Stephen Basho-Jungans | William Basinski | [...] [how]: brief talk/presentation of festival + track selection -- [background] [no.signal] - the london-based live experimental music production cell - runs a collaborative show on the art radio station ResonanceFM 104.4. 'Small Pieces' is co-hosted - in rotating order - by: [no.signal] > sprawl/d-fuse > slowsound system > Highpoint Lowlife). [no.signal]'s show focuses on one experimental music festival per month highlighting its ethos, program and selecting tracks from the incoming line-up. -- next edition (please note change of day/time): saturday october 30 LMC 13th annual Guitar Solo festival London + Avanto Festival Helsinki | Finland i: http://www.avantofestival.com/2004/ --- incoming live event: The Horse Hospital | 20.11 | 6pm-12am construction sonor: sonic journey through the Alps w/ günter müller, steinbrüchel, bernd schurer and marcus maeder in collaboration with Pro Helvetia + visuals from ursula palla + presentation/talk + swiss buffet more soon -- [end of email] --Boundary_(ID_yvsKtbx8XRbjs665js9tZA)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 16:45:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32368-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59459 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:45:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 59443 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:45:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: Sv: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I haven't been able to access the URL... > > I remember getting an invitation e-mail from them a while ago, but never had time to investigate it, so this makes me wonder if any a/O releases are listed there without permission as well... > > Best, Dale > > http://www.and-oar.org/ "Search Results for "and/oar" returned 0 matches (releases: 0)" Thank goodness for that anyway. "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 16:46:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32369-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61873 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:46:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 61850 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:46:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:46:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100526bd8becc1e711@[10.0.1.4]> <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > i think it's really, really shitty that they've listed releases that they > have not officially licensed on the website, regardless of whether people > can actually buy them now or not. those of you who've had trouble > contacting them to ask them what the f**k's going on, if you want to > contact me privately i can give you the e-mail addresses and names of the > people that i've been dealing with. i've got a reply from jetgroove quite > quickly every time i've talked with them. Well, why not post their contact info on the list? It seems there's a few people here at least who would like to get a speedy reply, myself among them. Phil > karri o. > abflug > www.abflugrec.com "Piracy in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 16:04:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32365-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37493 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:04:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 37483 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:04:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:58:23 +0200 From: Murat Gunes <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Computer Music Journal In-reply-to: <00cd01c4ad4d$3e8de470$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-9; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-Authenticated: #12624905 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <00cd01c4ad4d$3e8de470$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx here: http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Computer-Music-Journal/index.html On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:41:14 -0400, Yatra <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone know where I can buy the issue / cd w/ CoH on it? > > Thanks, > PB --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 17:17:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32370-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80459 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:16:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 80442 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:16:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:16:44 -0400 From: Beau <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx First a brief introduction: Hi, my name's Beau. I'm something of a neophyte, a first semester level music synth and percussion student at the Berklee College of Music in Boston and electronic music hobbyist. I've been lurking around here for some time, great conversation, found a lot of interesting music through you guys. I'd be down for a microsound ringtone project. My day job is to make monophonic ringtones for phones like the Motorola v60 flip phone and polyphonic tones for a variety of newer models. I actually don't know a whole lot about the technical side of the job, I just input and edit MIDI data in the templates they give me, but I think the format has potential. Extreme limitations force extreme creativity! beau On Oct 8, 2004, at 11:17 AM, john saylor wrote: > hi > > another project idea: > ring tones for cell phones > > i know some take midi and some take mp3s. the tech specs would need to > be worked out. and my preference would be for a 3 second limit, but it > can be pushed higher. > > any interest? > > -- > \js ."^ ~ %http://or8.net/~johns > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 17:29:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32371-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87701 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 87691 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:28:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:28:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal In-reply-to: <004b01c4ad26$1acb9a90$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_m7wvRGn7zE5HSfKN2PuEOQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_m7wvRGn7zE5HSfKN2PuEOQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks very much Phil and Patrick. :-) I still am not able to view the site other than by looking at an archived page from Google, and the links don't work from there either... oh well. Not that I don't have better things to do... Cheers, Dale http://www.and-oar.org/ ". m u r m e r ." <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote: well, now i'm upset. they haven't even *bothered* to list any of *my* releases without my permission! aren't i good enough for them?? ; ) patrick ps-i had look for and/oar as well, dale, and fear not, my friend, you're not good enough either... --Boundary_(ID_m7wvRGn7zE5HSfKN2PuEOQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 17:53:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32372-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2940 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:52:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 2889 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:52:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:52:48 +0300 From: Karri Ojanen <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002c01c4ad5f$a03bd2b0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100526bd8becc1e711@[10.0.1.4]> <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> i think it's really, really shitty that they've listed releases that they >> have not officially licensed on the website, regardless of whether people >> can actually buy them now or not. those of you who've had trouble >> contacting them to ask them what the f**k's going on, if you want to >> contact me privately i can give you the e-mail addresses and names of the >> people that i've been dealing with. i've got a reply from jetgroove quite >> quickly every time i've talked with them. > > Well, why not post their contact info on the list? It seems there's a few > people here at least who would like to get a speedy reply, myself among > them. Olga Kuptsova xxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx Alena Chakhnazarova xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx karri o. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 18:13:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32373-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18577 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:13:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 18566 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:13:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:13:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mRI7C/H+oQy4bVNROF5LSw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_mRI7C/H+oQy4bVNROF5LSw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit really interesting... With voices it would not be bad idea. Saludos, Mika_Martini. john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:hi another project idea: ring tones for cell phones i know some take midi and some take mp3s. the tech specs would need to be worked out. and my preference would be for a 3 second limit, but it can be pushed higher. any interest? -- \js ."^ ~ %http://or8.net/~johns --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_mRI7C/H+oQy4bVNROF5LSw)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 19:00:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32374-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43929 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:00:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 43916 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:00:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:00:52 -0700 From: Galen Elfert <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] microsound and environmentalism In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx From reading this list I suspect that many of you are informed, both in your work and life, by an awareness of your impact on the environment. I'm curious to know how you reconcile this with your participation in an artform that seems to necessitate a high rate of consumption of objects whose rate of obsolesence makes them virtually disposable, and whose materials imply potentially very harmful industrial means of production. That may sound fairly harsh, but it's not meant to be a criticism. These are issues I've been wrestling with myself, with little success, and I'm interested in seeing some other perspectives. Galen Elfert (calm sea) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 19:31:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32375-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64067 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:31:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 64055 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:31:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:31:20 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound and environmentalism In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via spameater01-16.dimenocmail.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(66.195.19.43):SA:0(-3.3/3.0):. Processed in 0.561872 secs Process 21971) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 8, 2004, at 3:00 PM, Galen Elfert wrote: > From reading this list I suspect that many of you are informed, both > in your work and life, by an awareness of your impact on the > environment. I'm curious to know how you reconcile this with your > participation in an artform that seems to necessitate a high rate of > consumption of objects whose rate of obsolesence makes them virtually > disposable, and whose materials imply potentially very harmful > industrial means of production. That may sound fairly harsh, but it's > not meant to be a criticism. These are issues I've been wrestling with > myself, with little success, and I'm interested in seeing some other > perspectives. It would seem to me that all you need to produce microsound is a computer... and since having a computer today is just about a necessity regardless of what art you produce, if any, I don't see any conflict between microsound and environmentalism. - John Nowak --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 20:23:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32376-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 93347 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:22:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 93337 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:22:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:22:54 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound and environmentalism In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bd8ca5b06eb2@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >reconcile this with your participation in an artform -Why should one reconsile this? >rate of obsolesence -...Is an illusion. The usefullness is determined by the user. People who are led to believe, that they need the newest of the newest. are the most harmfull. Products can be disposed off in many ways. If the willingness is there, hazards can be reduced. But money is more important... 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Fri Oct 8 20:34:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32377-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2392 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:34:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 2360 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:34:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:34:14 +0200 From: Marta Klonowska <xxxxxx@xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Ping Melody / 21 October 2004 / Centre Pompidou To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002001c4ad76$2d468900$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9tZPM7jTtTKLu9GcQZgSxA)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9tZPM7jTtTKLu9GcQZgSxA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit : : Ping Melody : : : : http://ping.wrocenter.pl : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : # Thursday, 21 October 2004 Pawel Janicki / Akosh Szelevényi (sax) Concert in framework of Media / Hors Media Troisiemes rencontres de la revue electronique http://www.revues-electroniques.net/ Pompidou Centre Place Georges Pompidou 75004 Paris France : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Ping Melody is a music-net-performance. Temporary and unique state of all actions of Internet users has an influence on form of music composition. Musician (instrumentalist or singer) is playing on acoustic instrument/singing and sounds coming from instrument/voice are shared in packets of data information (granulated), then transmitted to selected Internet location (as "ping" unix command). The order of packet’s return, packet’s delays, transmission errors alerts are incorporated, and the information coming from these actions is controlling in the real time the transformation of played sound. Performance will be accompanying by visualisation, showing tracks of data and information of errors, etc. Dedicated software is a kind of sampler (granular synthesizer) and pitch tracker, which is using Internet to transform and create sound construction. Musician is improvising, treating software, which is transforming sound coming from his instrument, as a partner – a kind of second musician. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Concert is organized in cooperation with: AFAA http://www.afaa.asso.fr/ Centre National de la Cinématographie http://www.cnc.fr/ Conseil Regional http://www.iledefrance.fr/ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Links: Ping Melody: http://wrocenter.pl/projects/ping/index.html Akosh Szelevényi: http://akosh.s.free.fr Media / Hors Media http://www.revues-electroniques.net/ Imprezariat.pl: www.imprezariat.gameboyzz.com WRO Center for Media Art http://wrocenter.pl/ : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : More info: Marta Klonowska / project manager IMPREZARIAT.PL www.imprezariat.gameboyzz.com tel. 0048.601.406.977 : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : --Boundary_(ID_9tZPM7jTtTKLu9GcQZgSxA)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 20:43:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32378-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7383 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:43:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 7372 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:43:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Lloyd <xxxxx@xxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: new release: dale lloyd | volatile and fixed principles To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WbNMuK5PSlZCp66Jy76IVQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_WbNMuK5PSlZCp66Jy76IVQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LEERRAUM [ ] new release dale lloyd | volatile and fixed principles total time: 59.55 01 07.28 02 24.13 03 16.26 04 11.31 artist: dale lloyd (seattle/usa) website: http://www.and-oar.org/dalelloyd.html produced & composed by dale lloyd 2003/2004. all rights reserved by dale lloyd. cover by hannes zweifel. executive produced by leerraum. leerraum 008.2004 © http://www.leerraum.ch --Boundary_(ID_WbNMuK5PSlZCp66Jy76IVQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 21:09:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32379-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16716 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:01:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 16705 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:01:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:01:22 -0400 (EDT) From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LOfAYarNleBtKCnbM4QrIA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LOfAYarNleBtKCnbM4QrIA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dans un e-mail daté du 08/10/2004 17:14:53 Paris, Madrid, xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx a écrit : another project idea: ring tones for cell phones really good idea! they made a similar project at _http://www.no-text.net/_ (http://www.no-text.net/) with artists like felix kubin, transformer, eeek (half of discom), groupgris, vicnet, ... cheers, [ _http://xstreamradio.free.fr_ (http://xstreamradio.free.fr) ] [ Now playing: Experimental and Electronic music ] --Boundary_(ID_LOfAYarNleBtKCnbM4QrIA)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 21:12:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32380-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24096 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:12:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 24083 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:12:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 14:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David Kendall <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That is a good idea. Generally cell phone rings are 20 seconds long, if they are midi files. Audio ringtones vary from about 6 seconds to 20 seconds, depending on the file format, and the amount of memory the phone has. There are so many different cell phones out there, with so many different file formats that it may be worth it to post mp3s, and let the cell phone owners deal with the specifics when loading the ringers on their phones.... On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, john saylor wrote: > hi > > another project idea: > ring tones for cell phones > > i know some take midi and some take mp3s. the tech specs would need to > be worked out. and my preference would be for a 3 second limit, but it > can be pushed higher. > > any interest? > > -- > \js ."^ ~ %http://or8.net/~johns > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 21:24:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32381-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31551 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:24:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 31541 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:24:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:27:27 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8CD2DF.7E8%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx rather surprised nobody mentioned it yet (or haven't i noticed?), but TOUCH released a compilation entitled "ringtones": https://www.touchshop.org/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=59&id=11eb5f 5a379059fdc41114dbf40779af sorry for the broken link :) take care, ralph. Am 8.10.2004 23:12 Uhr schrieb "David Kendall" unter <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>: > That is a good idea. Generally cell phone rings are 20 seconds long, if > they are midi files. Audio ringtones vary from about 6 seconds to 20 > seconds, depending on the file format, and the amount of memory the phone > has. There are so many different cell phones out there, with so many > different file formats that it may be worth it to post mp3s, and let the > cell phone owners deal with the specifics when loading the ringers on > their phones.... > > On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, john saylor wrote: > >> hi >> >> another project idea: >> ring tones for cell phones >> >> i know some take midi and some take mp3s. the tech specs would need to >> be worked out. and my preference would be for a 3 second limit, but it >> can be pushed higher. >> >> any interest? >> >> -- >> \js ."^ ~ %http://or8.net/~johns >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > -- ..:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 22:09:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32382-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53863 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:09:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 53848 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:09:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:08:24 -0700 From: "b.phenix" <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx may be of use if the project moves forwards. http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,6566,034-62,00.html Nokia Audio Suite 1.0.2 is a tool for creating SP-MIDI audio content (e.g., polyphonic ring tones for Nokia devices). The tool also auralizes (or models) the audio content as it sounds when played through the mobile device's speaker (performance will vary on different PC speakers). Both SP-MIDI creator and auralization tools plug into professional MIDI sequencer programs that support Virtual Studio Technology instruments (VSTi), version 2.1. The Nokia Audio Suite 1.0.2 update adds support for Nokia 3100, Nokia 3200, Nokia 6600 and N-Gage devices. On Oct 8, 2004, at 2:12 PM, David Kendall wrote: That is a good idea. Generally cell phone rings are 20 seconds long, if they are midi files. Audio ringtones vary from about 6 seconds to 20 seconds, depending on the file format, and the amount of memory the phone has. There are so many different cell phones out there, with so many different file formats that it may be worth it to post mp3s, and let the cell phone owners deal with the specifics when loading the ringers on their phones.... On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, john saylor wrote: > hi > > another project idea: > ring tones for cell phones > > i know some take midi and some take mp3s. the tech specs would need to > be worked out. and my preference would be for a 3 second limit, but it > can be pushed higher. > > any interest? > > -- > \js ."^ ~ %http://or8.net/~johns > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 22:22:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32383-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59929 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:21:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 59901 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:21:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:21:35 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [self-promotional] seattle To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002701c4ad85$2c175a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i am heading out to the northwest in a week, i will be playing a few shows... i am using a kaoss pad, laptop, field recordings... http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml will soderberg * 16 october 2oo4 saturday disjecta, portland, or -w/entropic advance, c/a/t, power circus * 17 october 2oo4 sunday banged and blown, portland, or -w/nequaquam vacuum, davis james, porca celeb, mr. munnicutt * 18 october 2oo4 monday (4pm pst) centipede music, kpra 96.7 portland, or -radio show http://praradio.com/wholeframe.htm * 18 october 2oo4 monday (9pm) the fritz (14 sw 3rd ave), portland, or -w/nequaquam vacuum, davis james with the human abstract * 22 october 2oo4 friday blim, vancouver, bc -w/the rita * 23 october 2oo4 saturday (8pm pst) super secret lodge show, kaos 89.3 olympia, wa -radio show* http://kaos.evergreen.edu/listenlive.html (*i will be contributing sounds to the mix by host aerick duckhugger) **still looking for a place to play in seattle... if you can help with contacts for any shows (15, 19, 2o, 21 or 23 october 2oo4) please email xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ some mp3s thanx ~will soderberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 22:27:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32384-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64514 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:27:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 64503 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:27:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:26:59 -0400 From: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] trimpin in seattle . . . To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003a01c4ad85$edacd8c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002701c4ad85$2c175a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx also, does anyone have a contact for the artist trimpin in seattle? i am looking forward to viewing some of his installations... i'd also appreciate any suggestions of places to view his interactive sound installations... i know there is a fairly recent one in concourse a of sea-tac airport... and roots & wings at the experience music project... and i think another in key auditorium... any more accessible in public (or otherwise) anyone can point me at? his realizations of nancarrow's works are amazing, imhofwiw... thanks, ~will soderberg ----- Original Message ----- From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [microsound] [self-promotional] seattle > i am heading out to the northwest in a week, i will be playing a few > shows... > i am using a kaoss pad, laptop, field recordings... > > http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml > > will soderberg > > * 16 october 2oo4 saturday > disjecta, portland, or > -w/entropic advance, c/a/t, power circus > > * 17 october 2oo4 sunday > banged and blown, portland, or > -w/nequaquam vacuum, davis james, porca celeb, mr. munnicutt > > * 18 october 2oo4 monday (4pm pst) > centipede music, kpra 96.7 portland, or > -radio show http://praradio.com/wholeframe.htm > > * 18 october 2oo4 monday (9pm) > the fritz (14 sw 3rd ave), portland, or > -w/nequaquam vacuum, davis james with the human abstract > > * 22 october 2oo4 friday > blim, vancouver, bc > -w/the rita > > * 23 october 2oo4 saturday (8pm pst) > super secret lodge show, kaos 89.3 olympia, wa > -radio show* http://kaos.evergreen.edu/listenlive.html (*i will be > contributing sounds to the mix by host aerick duckhugger) > > **still looking for a place to play in seattle... > if you can help with contacts for any shows (15, 19, 2o, 21 or 23 october > 2oo4) > please email xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ some mp3s > > thanx > ~will soderberg > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 8 22:36:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32385-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70261 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:36:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 70251 invoked from network); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:36:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:35:27 -0700 From: "b.phenix" <xx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] trimpin in seattle . . . In-reply-to: <003a01c4ad85$edacd8c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <002701c4ad85$2c175a00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <003a01c4ad85$edacd8c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx there is always the soundgarden. it is located at the NOAA facility next to Magnuson park (http://www.cityofseattle.net/parks/magnuson/default.htm). it was closed for a bit for terrorist concern after 9/11 so i don't know if it has been re-opened (silly if it hasn't). b. On Oct 8, 2004, at 3:26 PM, <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: also, does anyone have a contact for the artist trimpin in seattle? i am looking forward to viewing some of his installations... i'd also appreciate any suggestions of places to view his interactive sound installations... i know there is a fairly recent one in concourse a of sea-tac airport... and roots & wings at the experience music project... and i think another in key auditorium... any more accessible in public (or otherwise) anyone can point me at? his realizations of nancarrow's works are amazing, imhofwiw... thanks, ~will soderberg ----- Original Message ----- From: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [microsound] [self-promotional] seattle > i am heading out to the northwest in a week, i will be playing a few > shows... > i am using a kaoss pad, laptop, field recordings... > > http://white-rose.net/shows.shtml > > will soderberg > > * 16 october 2oo4 saturday > disjecta, portland, or > -w/entropic advance, c/a/t, power circus > > * 17 october 2oo4 sunday > banged and blown, portland, or > -w/nequaquam vacuum, davis james, porca celeb, mr. munnicutt > > * 18 october 2oo4 monday (4pm pst) > centipede music, kpra 96.7 portland, or > -radio show http://praradio.com/wholeframe.htm > > * 18 october 2oo4 monday (9pm) > the fritz (14 sw 3rd ave), portland, or > -w/nequaquam vacuum, davis james with the human abstract > > * 22 october 2oo4 friday > blim, vancouver, bc > -w/the rita > > * 23 october 2oo4 saturday (8pm pst) > super secret lodge show, kaos 89.3 olympia, wa > -radio show* http://kaos.evergreen.edu/listenlive.html (*i will > be > contributing sounds to the mix by host aerick duckhugger) > > **still looking for a place to play in seattle... > if you can help with contacts for any shows (15, 19, 2o, 21 or 23 > october > 2oo4) > please email xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > > http://www.existentialista.com/~uforika/ some mp3s > > thanx > ~will soderberg > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 00:04:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32386-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98705 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:04:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 98695 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:04:38 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:04:32 -0700 From: GrahamWakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site In-reply-to: <BD8C25AC.16C07%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8C7920.AF0%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I hope the irritation a user might encounter when reaching the 'not available for purchase yet' or worse still the [1]smallprint wouldn't be reflected upon the artist/label etc... How do you act against that? On 8/10/04 8:08 am, "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > > > Of note, > > > >> this from another website: >> >> >> >> Dear Sirs and Madams, >> >> My name is Ulukman Mamytov and I am the attorney for jetgroove.com. >> >> I bring you apologies from JetGroove for making you worry about your >> copyrights infringements and your music repertoire being presented on >> our website. I want to assure you that jetgroove.com having started a >> new Online Music Download Service pursues the objective of making your >> music more wellknown and accessible and ONLY BY LEGAL MEANS. >> >> That means we DO NOT SELL any of your music without obtaining a proper >> permission (License) from you or other respective rightholders. You can >> easily check this by trying to purchase any of you music. Everything >> that you choose to put in your cart will have status: "Not Available For >> Purchase Yet". > > > The "yet" implies a future contract to both users and in the context of this > letter, to the music owner. > > In law this is known as false advertising on the one hand and coercion on > the other. > > > The model of Jetgroove.com is good. Their business tactics are atrocious. > > One could quite easily send a CEASE & DESIST letter to JetGroove if one > wished under the DMCA (as much as I detest the DMCA, at least make it work > for you if you deem it necessary). > > They don't have permission, legally, to list any work as "yet." It could be > argued that they must say: "Not Available for Purchase [1]." > > And the [1] must explain that they haven't entered into contractural > negotiations with the owner of the music's rights and that the listing is > purely hypothetical. > > > tV > > >> It could only be put "ON HOLD". And we do not change that >> status untill the contract is signed and your permission is granted. In >> this case all of your music will be given "Allowed for Selling" status >> and people who have it in their shopping carts will be able to buy it. >> >> The experince of showing your music on our website without distributing >> aimed to draw your attention to us, with further goal to make contacts >> with you on friendly terms with a perspective of mutually beneficial >> partnership. We¹re glad to inform you that your music is getting popular >> indeed through our website and we can let you know at any time how many >> of your tracks were put on hold and which ones. >> >> However, we deeply understand your concerns and would like to assure >> you, if you find our relationships impossible, we will IMMEDIATELY >> delete all of your music from our music collection. >> >> Hope you¹ll find our offer to make your music more popular through us >> rather reasonable and we can start that mutually beneficial partnership. >> >> Very Truly Yours, >> >> Ulukman Mamytov >> >> Jetgroove LLP >> >> Legal Department >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels" >> Henri Michaux >> >> www.alembic.me.uk >> >> > > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > --- New School Philosophy -------- > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 00:47:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32387-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11112 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:47:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 11102 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:47:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:43:50 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: http://jetgroove.com/ In-reply-to: <BD8BF5BD.C721%xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8BF5BD.C721%xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > However, I find it positive that the 'service' was only launched on > Tuesday > and within three days word is circulating extensively. yeah maybe their business plan works =) Peace, A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 08:01:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32388-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 04:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 04:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4006 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:01:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 3996 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:01:12 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:01:44 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I work in that business for several years so count me in! Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next events: Elektronengehirn concert: 09.10. Astrastube, Hamburg, Germany concert + DJ set with Xyramat: 10.10. Schilleroper, Hamburg, Germany pure-data workshop 18.10-22.10 vivid, Birmingham, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 08:24:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32389-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 04:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 04:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8286 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:24:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 8276 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:24:52 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:25:28 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100502bd8c30fd58f3@[10.0.1.4]> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I wonder where they got the information for the catalog from, its not just going through the current web and rip off recent offers. They list correctly old tapes of my projects I thought they were long forgotten. Totally odd. Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- next events: Elektronengehirn concert: 09.10. Astrastube, Hamburg, Germany concert + DJ set with Xyramat: 10.10. Schilleroper, Hamburg, Germany pure-data workshop 18.10-22.10 vivid, Birmingham, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 11:54:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32390-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 07:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 07:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47409 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:54:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 47397 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:54:02 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:53:20 +0000 From: Gunnar S <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Sounds & cropcircles... X-Originating-IP: [83.166.11.179] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2004 11:54:01.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB327FB0:01C4ADF6] Hi/ Does anyone remember an artikel/link in this list about these phenomena? I posted a link to a friend but then i somehow lost it. regards G.. Gunnar S audiodidakt programproduktion xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx _________________________________________________________________ Chatt: Träffa nya nätkompisar på Habbo Hotel http://habbohotel.msn.se/habbo/sv/channelizer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 14:37:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32391-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72571 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:37:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 72561 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:37:49 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:37:45 +0200 From: herv=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= boghossian <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LIST label October Events ! In-reply-to: <BD5B83E9.571E%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8DC458.6235%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, _ 17.10.04 Hervé Boghossian + Frank Bretschneider (Komet) live @ Confluences 8PM,Ircam "Résonances_Aux" festival Paris, fr (also playing erik minkkinen ) _ 30.10.04 LIST 3 YEARS ! @ Les Abattoirs 8PM (Museum of Modern and Contemporary Art auditorium) Toulouse, fr with live performances by Colleen, Janek Schaefer and Hervé Boghossian + présentation of the label (mix), debate on the creation of a label and screening of sol/t.einfeldt "x@x" (List-L0) at VKS 5PM-7PM thanks for your attention best rv // http://www.list-en.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 16:34:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32392-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 506 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:34:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 496 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:34:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:34:17 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] R:[microsound] jetgroove = possibly illegal In-reply-to: <001801c4ad2a$5a5b2190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8DDFA9.47A9%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NKExSCBG1wHMQmSb4myHKQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NKExSCBG1wHMQmSb4myHKQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit They put also our catalogue (mousikelab) on the site. Obviously they didn¹ t ask us! We are in contact with other labels to organize a legal action against this mafia way of doing business; we don¹ t care that our music is not avalaible, Œcause they are using our name to promote their site without any permission. I will post any news about this Best marco messina [] [] [] [] [] [] http://www.mousikelab.com/ http://www.novenove.it/ http://www.folderstudio.com/ [] [] [] [] [] [] --Boundary_(ID_NKExSCBG1wHMQmSb4myHKQ)-- From ???@??? 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Sat Oct 9 16:53:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32394-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6101 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:53:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 6091 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:53:04 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:52:09 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. X-Originating-IP: [138.40.30.81] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2004 16:53:02.0049 (UTC) FILETIME=[705C2510:01C4AE20] Derrida died today: story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1503&ncid=1503&e=5&u=/afp/20041009/ts_afp/france_derrida_obit _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 17:18:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32395-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13552 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:18:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 13525 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:18:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:18:41 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida's passing In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8DDC01.3746%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/9/04 5:52 PM, ian stewart at xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote: I propose a project that relates to derrida's death... as an adieu to his passing. what could it be? any ideas? anyone interest in? thanos > > Derrida died today: > > story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1503&ncid=1503&e=5&u=/afp/20041009/ts > _afp/france_derrida_obit > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 17:44:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32396-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20951 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:44:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 20941 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:44:26 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:47:37 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida's passing To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8DDC01.3746%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx so strange... i just rented the documentary the other day. > > thanos > > > > > Derrida died today: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 17:49:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32397-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22511 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:49:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 22501 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:49:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:49:26 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I read this thread last night, and I just happened to be playing with an L-Systems class in Python that I was using to generate MIDI data. So I came up with some code that generates MIDI intended for use as ringtones. I wrote it in PHP (because my host doesn't have Python). Hear the bizarre melodies: http://noise.me.uk/ringtones/ See the source: http://noise.me.uk/ringtones/ringtones.phps I'm forwarding noise.me.uk to my current host, and because I'm not certain if all phones like HTTP Location forwarding, so here's a direct link to the MIDI generator: http://noise.alexyoung.org/ringtones/index.php Try putting that into your phone! I did it with my Sony Ericsson phone and it worked fine (except for the horrible sounds of course). -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org/ music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 18:06:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32398-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27950 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:06:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 27940 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:06:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:06:39 -0400 From: taylor deupree <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" X-Sender: taylor%xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0610050fbd8dd84c5518@[10.0.1.4]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i heard on the ableton live forums that they may be getting their MP3s from soulseek, or whatever...s.... someone there saw listing formats in the postings of his tracks on jetgroove that the were the same as formats of his track titles posted on soulseek.. that puts a whole new level of bad karma on jetgroove... >I wonder where they got the information for the catalog from, its not >just going through the current web and rip off recent offers. They list >correctly old tapes of my projects I thought they were long forgotten. >Totally odd. > >Malte -- .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12k | LINE | HAPPY WWW.12K.COM NOW: CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] CD: January [Spekk, Japan] CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ Rotovision, UK ] SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ Ecoute | Centre Pomidou | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 LIVE: Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 18:17:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32399-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30610 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:17:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 30600 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:17:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:13:51 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] jetgroove's "business policy" In-reply-to: <p0610050fbd8dd84c5518@[10.0.1.4]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p0610050fbd8dd84c5518@[10.0.1.4]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Taylor: "i heard on the ableton live forums that they may be getting their MP3s from soulseek, or whatever...s.... someone there saw listing formats in the postings of his tracks on jetgroove that the were the same as formats of his track titles posted on soulseek.. > > that puts a whole new level of bad karma on jetgroove..." they also list netlabels that make their mp3s available for free for sale. really it looks like one big attempt to get a bunch of people to pay 20 bucks to download tracks jetgroove doesn't really have. Hence why they have yet to take down AIM's stuff or Couchblip's despite both labels never signing the contracts. Have you asked them to take down the 12k stuff yet? dres: "is this not essentially free advertising for people who produce music? As long as the track cannot be downloaded illiegally then why would you not want the press, even if it's a small degree of it?" because we'd prefer press in the forms of reviews etc. which we get from sending out promos, not from being involved with a distributor falsely advertising products they don't have. I might add had jetgroove merely made it apparent when you search for a release that this release isn't available yet I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this service. Peace, A On Oct 9, 2004, at 2:06 PM, taylor deupree wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 19:02:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32400-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41677 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:02:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 41660 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:02:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:58:37 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] microsound and environmentalism To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005401c4ae31$fe855d00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Galen Elfert asks; > From reading this list I suspect that many of you are informed, both in > your work and life, by an awareness of your impact on the environment. Sounds reasonable to me. > I'm curious to know how you reconcile this with your participation in > an artform that seems to necessitate a high rate of consumption of > objects whose rate of obsolesence makes them virtually disposable, and > whose materials imply potentially very harmful industrial means of > production. That would be a good question if we did, but do we? I´m typing this on a P1 133MHz that works perfectly fine for browsing and emailing, sitting next to a stack of 70s analogue effects. Granted, the desktop I´m typing on no longer satisfies me as a audio workstation and I felt the need to get a seperate laptop for that but I don´t feel the old effects lost any of their charm since they were build. From my own perspective my gear actually grows in usefullness over the years as I get to know it. You could, for example, considder the Nord Modular obsolete now that the G2 is released but as my technical skills grew, my own N.M. became more and more usefull to me. Suppose we were into making the currently fashionable kind of dance music (and thus change tastes once per half year or so). We would indeed have to buy the latest preset sequencer/workstation/soundbank to stay up to date and have electro sounds once techno is out of fashion. That would indeed be wastefull (not mention expensive!) and I strongly suspect that this very thing is happening right now in other circles. Who else would buy the products currently seen at music stores? Not only do I throw away very little music related stuff, in fact friends give me their "trash" as often there will be some bits in there worth salvaging or perhaps the whole thing might be reused for some purpose. I don´t mean to present myself as some environmental saint, I merely keep the environment in the back of my head. Most of these things have other external reasons. I like the sound of old effects, I hate shopping for clothes so buy quality heavy stuff once, then wear it for ages. A leather back pack is nicer to cary than plastic bags, especially if you walk everywhere if possible. There too the environment is only a side factor as I simply like the peace of mind walking brings. In the Netherlands for single persons trains are still cheaper than cars, you can read on them and between the major cities they are actually faster due to traffic problems. I´ll take it :¬). In short; yes, I´m a modern western person and so one of the worst things the environment has ever seen but within that context I don´t feel especially bad or guilty. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 19:45:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32401-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51649 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:45:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 51624 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:45:44 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:41:45 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Possibly illegal mp3 sales site To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <007d01c4ae38$05787b00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Minor update; Vincent from Angelmaker records (a small dutch label that releases relatively rough, relatively experimental dance stuff) emailed them, demanding his and his label´s material to be removed and aparently it´s gone now. Creme and Bunker are currently requesting the same. That doesn´t make their cource of action okay, but at least they don´t keep it up and sell it regardless. I´m not sure what small labels would have to do in that case. If having a special sleeve for a record is something that has to be debated because of profit margins, lawyers are out of the question. Last night I talked about this matter with the guy who runs the label I normally release on and we concluded that the only weapon we realy have in such conflicts is getting the word out online and hoping to influence people that way. You can wonder wether this situation is a indication of things to come..... Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 20:35:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32402-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64126 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:34:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 64116 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:34:58 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:34:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Derrida died today: Anyone up for a Derrida memorial project. Perhaps if we could come across some recordings of him speaking, we could use those as source material. Or not. Anyone else have ideas about this? P "Obituaries in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 21:28:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32403-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78082 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:28:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 78070 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:28:51 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:28:48 -0300 (ART) From: Zusammen Hangslos <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_UxmpG8uhLFwbXOvkahVJ4g)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_UxmpG8uhLFwbXOvkahVJ4g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i'm up! Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:> Derrida died today: Anyone up for a Derrida memorial project. Perhaps if we could come across some recordings of him speaking, we could use those as source material. Or not. Anyone else have ideas about this? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! --Boundary_(ID_UxmpG8uhLFwbXOvkahVJ4g)-- From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 21:36:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32404-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81633 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:36:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 81623 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:36:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:37:17 +1300 From: abby/Gydja <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000a01c4ae48$2c2de4a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx There are lengthy mp3s of an interview with Derrida speaking on religion here: www.sbl-site2.org/Congresses/AM/2003/AMAudio.php3 > Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:> Derrida died today: > Anyone up for a Derrida memorial project. Perhaps if we could come across > some recordings of him speaking, we could use those as source material. Or > not. Anyone else have ideas about this? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 21:41:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32405-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83263 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:41:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 83253 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 21:41:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:41:35 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yah, I have an idea: why? I'd like to see someone here articulate how Derrida has influenced their practice. In whatever form. Perhaps whoever is in favour could speak of how Derrida has affected / effected their work before responding in kind. Speaking to someone's death as an artist should not be taken as an opportunity for yet another sonic photo op. On my part, http://www.quadrantcrossing.org/blog/C625679076/E302526524/index.html Given that Derrida had much to say on the subject of death and memorial, perhaps those in favour can address these topics. It would show a degree of respect of an-other's death. in passing, tobias >> Derrida died today: > > Anyone up for a Derrida memorial project. Perhaps if we could come across > some recordings of him speaking, we could use those as source material. Or > not. Anyone else have ideas about this? > > P > > > "Obituaries in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." > Popular Mechanics, 1949 > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy --- New School Philosophy -------- ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 22:01:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32406-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87640 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:01:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 87630 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:01:02 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 23:00:55 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8E1E26.3762%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/9/04 10:41 PM, tobias c. van Veen at xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > Yah, I have an idea: why? Because he has written (actually where?) that "one resorts to form when one no longer has the strength to draw energy from the material". let's dive into the sound once more where the death undoes itself and memorizes itself to a new birth. passing & always passing.... an-other's passing. Thanos PS:: idea for title: ADIEUS > I'd like to see someone here articulate how Derrida has influenced their > practice. In whatever form. Perhaps whoever is in favour could speak of how > Derrida has affected / effected their work before responding in kind. > > Speaking to someone's death as an artist should not be taken as an > opportunity for yet another sonic photo op. > > On my part, > > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org/blog/C625679076/E302526524/index.html > > Given that Derrida had much to say on the subject of death and memorial, > perhaps those in favour can address these topics. It would show a degree of > respect of an-other's death. > > in passing, > > tobias > >>> Derrida died today: >> >> Anyone up for a Derrida memorial project. Perhaps if we could come across >> some recordings of him speaking, we could use those as source material. Or >> not. Anyone else have ideas about this? >> >> P >> >> >> "Obituaries in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." >> Popular Mechanics, 1949 >> >> >> ========= >> Phil Thomson >> home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson >> blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ >> label: http://centibel.org/ >> group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ >> ========= >> >> SDF Public Access UNIX System >> http://www.freeshell.org/ >> Geekier than you since 1987. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > --- New School Philosophy -------- > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 22:03:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32407-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89474 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:03:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 89451 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:03:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: myo <xxx_xxx_xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/dekCeM0Ke7XQZy1iTBBpw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_/dekCeM0Ke7XQZy1iTBBpw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, I do Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. well, I do....................... guess I'm just wierd then. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! --Boundary_(ID_/dekCeM0Ke7XQZy1iTBBpw)-- From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 22:26:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32408-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 97929 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:26:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 97919 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:26:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:23:01 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > Speaking to someone's death as an artist should not be taken as an > opportunity for yet another sonic photo op. > > On my part, > > > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org/blog/C625679076/E302526524/index.html > I agree, seems like double entendre of a musical sort is needed. Voices as instruments, instruments as voices, music as text, text as music etc. The sounds of what comprises our concept of music as music etc. - A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 9 22:30:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32409-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99963 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:30:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 99953 invoked from network); Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:30:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:28:52 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via spameater01-19.dimenocmail.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(66.195.19.43):SA:0(-2.3/3.0):. Processed in 4.25252 secs Process 27983) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 9, 2004, at 6:03 PM, myo wrote: > well, I do > > Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, > idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, > and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. > > well, I do....................... > > guess I'm just wierd then. Mm.. yes you are! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 04:22:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32410-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72786 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 04:22:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 72774 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 04:22:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:19:42 +0200 From: th_ost <xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003901c4ae80$5e21b210$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #3048294 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > I'd like to see someone here articulate how Derrida has influenced their > practice. In whatever form. Perhaps whoever is in favour could speak of how > Derrida has affected / effected their work before responding in kind. i am up for the project, but i would like to suggest to give it enough time. to expand: i have read some derrida, but am far from having a deep insight into his work and thought. i would like to take this as an opportunity to finally get down to diving deeper into the subject, and reflect my experiences on doing so and maybe exitement on new insights, sudden inspiration musically. i would not want to prentent for the sake of taking part!!! i realize that this will take time. i could imagine there are people in a likewise situation, so they might be put off partaking, rather than be inspired to read something and do music. memento mori hidari °°° th_ost: tomoroh hidari_oliver stummer acronymic symbiosis of alter & ego http://www.tomoroh.com/ http://www.stiege44.com/ http://www.skug.at/ >> necro'phon'i'con (from Greek: Necros- dead, phon- sound, icon -picture, representation; the book of dead sounds, or the image of dead sounds) a standard reference work for the acoustic oddities of pulp-occultist lore. made mostly from fragments of killed sounds, a franken- meets wittgenstein-ian creation playing duelling banjos with all dsp available but no banjos.... °°°°° --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 08:44:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32411-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 04:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 04:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15425 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 08:44:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 15415 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 08:44:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:43:50 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RE : [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <BD8E1E26.3762%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000f01c4aea5$47d58930$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The pl. form of adieu is adieux ( or was there a linguistic glitch I missed ? ) S/ -----Message d'origine----- De : Thanos Chrysakis [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] on 10/9/04 10:41 PM, tobias c. van Veen at xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: PS:: idea for title: ADIEUS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 10:03:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32412-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27350 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:03:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 27339 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:03:17 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 12:03:12 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004f01c4aeb0$5ab9a710$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <003901c4ae80$5e21b210$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I'm also up for a Derrida project. I am not at all familiar with Derrida's work except for what I since yesterday have read at different Internet sites. My suggestion is also to let this project evolve with time and the second suggestion is to use the TWiki as a platform for the project to take shape. There we can put up relevant pointers to the work of Derrida and thoughts for the project aswell as uploading possible material to work with. Would be nice to include both audio and visuals in this project. /Björn Eriksson. >> I'd like to see someone here articulate how Derrida has influenced their >> practice. In whatever form. Perhaps whoever is in favour could speak of > how >> Derrida has affected / effected their work before responding in kind. > > i am up for the project, but i would like to suggest to give it enough > time. > to expand: i have read some derrida, but am far from having a deep insight > into his work and thought. > i would like to take this as an opportunity to finally get down to diving > deeper into the subject, and reflect my experiences on doing so and maybe > exitement on new insights, sudden inspiration musically. i would not want > to > prentent for the sake of taking part!!! > i realize that this will take time. > i could imagine there are people in a likewise situation, so they might be > put off partaking, rather than be inspired to read something and do music. > > memento mori > hidari --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 10:06:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32413-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28535 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:06:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 28525 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:06:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:06:38 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <004f01c4aeb0$5ab9a710$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <003901c4ae80$5e21b210$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> <004f01c4aeb0$5ab9a710$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this is really devastating news. One of the greatest philosophers and theorists in the last hundred years. RIP Jacques. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 10:55:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32414-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37017 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:54:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 37003 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:54:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:54:32 +0100 From: Thanos Chrysakis <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <000f01c4aea5$47d58930$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD8ED378.3771%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/10/04 9:43 AM, Sylvain Dal at xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx wrote: good-morning! linguistic glitch? no... ..... in english the plural is "adieus". http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=adieus thanos PS::also, in my view it would be better not using his voice for the project. > > The pl. form of adieu is adieux ( or was there a linguistic glitch I > missed ? ) > > S/ > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Thanos Chrysakis [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx] > > on 10/9/04 10:41 PM, tobias c. van Veen at xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > > PS:: idea for title: ADIEUS > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 11:32:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32415-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42534 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:30:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 42523 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:30:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:19:03 +0200 From: kristof lauwers <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] project names vs real names... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <x.x.x.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >Exactly. There is a healthy overlap between noise, industrial, ebm, >idm, power electronics, microsound, ambient, jungle, gabber, synthpop, >and death metal, but it's rare than anyone likes all of those genres. what's ebm? (apart from evidence based medicine) k. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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(taylor) -- .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12k | LINE | HAPPY WWW.12K.COM NOW: CD: Taylor Deupree & Christopher Willits Mujo [Plop, Japan] CD: January [Spekk, Japan] CD: participant on Bip Hop Generation v.7 [Bip-Hop, France] BOOK: design works in "CD-Art" book [ Rotovision, UK ] SOUND EXHIBITION: "snow/sand" (from Stil.) @ Ecoute | Centre Pomidou | Paris, France | 22 Sept, 2004 - 17 Jan, 2005 PHOTOGRAPHY: architecture series | coriolislab.org | sept, 2004 LIVE: Oct16: Send + Receive Festival | Winnipeg, CA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 13:54:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32417-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66766 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:53:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 66755 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:53:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:54:19 +0300 From: visa <xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005301c4aed0$a68cea60$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8ED378.3771%xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > PS::also, in my view it would be better not using his voice for the > project. I agree.Or if we did, it should be something a bit more meaningful than just use his voice as source material and that's it. IMO that would be pretty insubstantial and wouldn't really address Derrida's ideas in any ways... ~Visa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 16:13:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32418-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 12:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 12:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3396 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:13:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 3383 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:13:15 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:13:12 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Newton exhibit To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx any of you lucky enough to be visiting or living in NY check out: http://www.nypl.org/research/newton/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 10 17:29:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32420-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32247 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:29:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 32237 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:29:46 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:29:14 -0400 From: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: Newton exhibit Sender: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxx-x-xxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message text written by microsound >any of you lucky enough to be visiting or living in NY check out: http://www.nypl.org/research/newton/< Yes. This is a fine recommendation. I went to that exhibit at the New York Public Library at 42 st. on the opening day. The show is wonderfully more than about Newton and is about a period in cultural history that the curator is terming " The Newtonian Moment." There are many vitrines of old books and scientific illustrations by many thinkers and experimenters of the times. There are a few large showcases devoted to Newton's own notebooks and drawings. He wrote in a tiny script in dark brown colored ink. Lovely. Dense. Long writings. The show is book and print heavy and it is neat to observe the modality and style of their "publishing" forms back then and there. They practised an elegant graphic design style of bookmaking that facilitated their particular cultural transmissions. My advice to any would-be visitors is to tag along on a guided tour of the exhibit when they happen ( at 12:30 and 2:30 pm ) as it will give an esoteric entrance into Newton and his context with juicy stories about many philosopher/practitioners like William Blake ( showing his drawings as well), and Robert Hooke, and bunch of other interesting thinkers, discoverers and extrapolators. Also, the specific Library Hall the show is in is quite beautiful. Ornate in all ways with marble floors and columns and a carved wood ceiling. Very rich sensorial experience and exquisite artisanry. High Culture. Trippable. It is up till Feb. 5. Thomas Ashcraft The Extrapolator's Club --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thanks for complyingwith the spirit of the forum and sending your messages according to the present subjects Advertising or promotional posts can be deleted whithout warning if the member does not introduce himself even briefly Sound section is exclusively dedicated to experimental, industrial or electronic music, but as well acousmatic, electro-acoustiques, electro-pop, chip-tunes, musiques rares et ethniques, dark ambient, ambient-glitch, IDM, chromatiques, ultra-minimalistes, disco-punk, collages sonores, space opera, musiques conceptuelles, noise, musique multi-artistique, cybernetique, drone-electronica, click and cut, inclassable, musique de film, beat-box evolué, abstract hip-hop and all kind accoustic way of music for thinking or meditation. The priority will be given to intelligent, original and underground composition, the forum is free to delete tracks that do not correspond to this philosophy. visual sections have to comply with this philosophy too. If a link of a posted file was used in an other site whithout the permission of angstprod's members, we would delete this file. http://www.angstprod.org je.suis.un (angstprod administrator, angstprod netlabel) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://search.msn.fr --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 01:09:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32424-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45094 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:09:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 45071 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:09:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:19 -0400 From: jonathan hughes <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ambient/electronic/microound venues To: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Does anyone know of any list anywhere that lists venues in different cities that are friendly to ambient/experimental/microsound/glitch? If such a list does not exist, I suggest we make one. People could e-mail me the names, addresses, URLs, and any other useful information about these places, and then I would compile a list which either I could host. I know a lot of us would like to play out more but don't know a lot of places to approach about doing a show. If this sounds like a good idea, start sending them my way, and also include places like art galleries that may not be music venues but occasionally feature our type of music. thanks Jonathan ____________________________________________________________ Jonathan Hughes www.jonathanhughes.com | www.dronelab.com | www.opalinemusic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 01:21:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32425-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49488 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:21:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 49478 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:21:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:18:30 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ambient/electronic/microound venues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey john, we're actually in the middle of making a label forum for u.s. electronica. we already have over a 100 promoters listed for idm, not quite microsound stuff, but it might help. if you guys wanna contribute let me know. Peace, A On Oct 10, 2004, at 9:09 PM, jonathan hughes wrote: > Does anyone know of any list anywhere that lists venues in different > cities that are friendly to ambient/experimental/microsound/glitch? > > If such a list does not exist, I suggest we make one. People could > e-mail me the names, addresses, URLs, and any other useful information > about these places, and then I would compile a list which either I > could host. > > I know a lot of us would like to play out more but don't know a lot of > places to approach about doing a show. If this sounds like a good > idea, start sending them my way, and also include places like art > galleries that may not be music venues but occasionally feature our > type of music. > > > > thanks > > > > Jonathan > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Jonathan Hughes > www.jonathanhughes.com | www.dronelab.com | > www.opalinemusic.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 01:53:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32426-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56972 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:53:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 56961 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 01:53:43 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:53:35 -0400 From: Nicholas K <xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Slapart Fights Jetgroove with 2 new LICENSED Mp3 releases by DJ Shield & Made-not-found In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LjVgVAsLeIOXXc3ySLVMwg)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LjVgVAsLeIOXXc3ySLVMwg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While people throughout the electronic music community debate the validity of jetgroove.com ... and hopefully remove themselves from an awful and evil way of doing business (I mean posting samples of work without even asking???) ... slapart.com keeps chugging on with a couple new stellar collections of mp3s downloadable from our archive.org streaming website... All slapart online releases are made in accordance with the Creative Commons License. Wise up Jet Groove, Good Music is Free. MADE-NOT-FOUND "marchworks" slapmp3_027 (28:22) <a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=slapart&collectionid=slap027">Listen</a> Using a Kimball electric organ and a few effects devices, these pieces were recorded by Peter Rinko (guitarist of the band Enemy Love <http://www.enemylove.com> sometime in the bleak winter landscape of upstate New York, where that season can be particularly harsh. But in March, there are days when you can sense the impending spring for an hour or two. It is for those fitting moments of clarity that this music is made. Somewhere in the depths of noise, the dark of cold night... a melody begins and soon you are humming its tune all the way down to the thawing river. DJ SHEILD "Pirate Radio Broadcasts Vol. 1" slapmp3_028 (55:05) <a href="http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=slapart&collectionid=slap028">Listen</a> While this music hasn't been aired on pirated waves quite yet, the radio format would probably be most suitable for the nature of these recordings. Starting out with just three portable disc-mans and a Radio Shack mixer I began layering music in hopes of enhancing the source material or, at the very least, surprising the listener. Since having graduated from those humble tools to the sophistication of a computer the mixes are becoming more prepared and thought through but hopefully no less exploratory. While the methods I use to choose and prepare the music are Dadaist in nature, the outcomes are undeniably surreal: seemingly unrelated events float through a kinetic library of references. A celebration of music by means of artistic presentation- DJ in the purest sense of the title. Go to <a href="http://www.slapart.com">slapart.com</a> --Boundary_(ID_LjVgVAsLeIOXXc3ySLVMwg)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 02:07:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32427-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62431 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:07:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 62421 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:07:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:10:49 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] intentionally glitching inkjets? To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx does anyone know of anyway to cause inkjet printers to malfunction without (here's the clincher) causing any permanent damage to the printer? i've had some happy accidents which i've rescanned back into photoshop in hi rez. the results are pretty stunning and this is something i'd like to continue experimenting with. how far can you go in terms of screwing things up without totally screwing things up? graham. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 03:33:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32428-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81175 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 03:33:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 81165 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 03:33:46 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:33:40 -0400 From: Jonathan Hughes <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] intentionally glitching inkjets? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 10, 2004, at 10:10 PM, graham miller wrote: > does anyone know of anyway to cause inkjet printers to malfunction > without (here's the clincher) causing any permanent damage to the > printer? Although this might not really be a "glitch," if your printer has individual color cartridges, depending on the printer, you can swap the color cartridges, or refill them with different color inks. Jonathan ____________________________________________________________ Jonathan Hughes www.jonathanhughes.com | www.dronelab.com | www.opalinemusic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 09:56:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32429-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 05:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 05:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12653 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:56:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 12643 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:56:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:08:10 +0200 From: liberation chabalala <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <02a001c4af79$904d38a0$xxxxxxxx@xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on coral.mweb.co.za X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=7.5 tests=none X-Spam-Report: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Was anyone lucky enough to be present at this? http://www.flong.com/telesymphony/ ~jools DIALTONES (A TELESYMPHONY) A concert performed entirely through the ringing of the audience's mobile phones. Presented Sunday, 2 September 2001 at the Brucknerhaus Auditorium in Linz, Austria as a production of TAKEOVER: the 2001 Ars Electronica Festival, and 28 May - 6 June 2002 at the Arteplage Mobile de Jura as a production of the Swiss National Exposition and Swisscom Mobile. Dialtones is a large-scale concert performance whose sounds are wholly produced through the carefully choreographed dialing and ringing of the audience's own mobile phones. Because the exact location and tone of each participant's mobile phone can be known in advance, Dialtones affords a diverse range of unprecedented sonic phenomena and musically interesting structures. Moreover, by directing our attention to the unexplored musical potential of a ubiquitous modern appliance, Dialtones inverts our understandings of private sound, public space, electromagnetic etiquette, and the fabric of the communications network which connects us. Dialtones was presented in two consecutive concerts in September, 2001, as a co-production of Golan Levin and the Ars Electronica Festival, and in seventeen performances in May/June 2002 at the Swiss National Exposition." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 11:27:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32430-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33545 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:27:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 33534 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:27:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:27:42 +0200 From: Marco Messina <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Mousikelab artgallery To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD903ACE.481C%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sTyIjr/b+8/eC9mOXenx7w)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_sTyIjr/b+8/eC9mOXenx7w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello list, you are invited to see the exposure of Claudio Parentela on our artgallery http://www.mousikelab.it/artgallery/ndex.htm all the best marco messina http://www.mousikelab.com/ --Boundary_(ID_sTyIjr/b+8/eC9mOXenx7w)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 11:59:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32431-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43300 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:59:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 43290 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:59:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 06:59:29 -0500 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New Release @ Stasisfield : My Fun X-Originating-IP: 209.86.96.239 X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002002bd9025c5a4b4@[209.86.96.239]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: 8044adbcdf4a5156069ad2b59907cf439ef193a6bfc3dd4867d7bddcda7b8c67e64047c9d43f25c758ce75fe477930ad350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx + Stasisfield announces its latest free mp3 release: -------------------------------------------------------- SF-3007 : Relocation E.P. :: My Fun -------------------------------------------------------- Currently based in London after a move from New York City, sound artist and composer Justin Hardison presents a suite of three short pieces of processed samples, field recordings and electronics that convey the excitement, frenzy and melancholy associated with the process of relocating to a faraway city. Available for download + streaming now : > [ http://www.stasisfield.com/releases/sf-3007.html ] -------------------------------------------------------- OUT NOW: + Digital Art Prints - Archival paper prints of imagery created by Stasisfield founder john kannenberg [ http://www.stasisfield.com/shop/prints.html ] + Stasisfield : Year 02 - mp3 CDR featuring every Stasisfield mp3 release from 2003 + bonus features: - "One Hour as Compressed Time" : a previously unreleased piece by john kannenberg - "A Brief Survey of Stasisfield Photography" : 100 images from the Stasisfield photo archives / presented as a clickable exhibition and as 1024 x 768 images suitable for your desktop / photos by Stasisfield photographers Alessandra Gillen + john kannenberg [ http://www.stasisfield.com/shop/year02_details.html ] -------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming: + Free mp3 releases by john kannenberg, Dale Lloyd + Stage 03 of Sonic Network Analysis - live sets + imagery from Version>04 -------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for listening. -- >> john kannenberg [ http://www.johnkannenberg.com ] [ http://www.stasisfield.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 12:16:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32432-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48956 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:16:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 48941 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:16:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:17 +0200 From: philippe-petit <xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] bip bip BiP_HOp newsletter To: "xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Organization: BiP_HOp MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ae0VL2kbGLjqCNjEyCJwEg)" X-Accept-Language: fr Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ae0VL2kbGLjqCNjEyCJwEg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hope all sound with you It's been a very nice Summer, we had two BiP_HOp Generation events in Brussels, @ Recyclart : for sure one of the best venue around… Some nice holidays in Lisboa where I met some interesting and active folks, so we definitely recommend the labels Thisco, Grain of Sound, Variz, Sirr, Ananana record store, Numero magazine… Favourite of the moment the darkish weird rework of drum'n' bass composed by Sci-Fi Industries. A good news for all our Scandinavian friends, now DOT distributes our music all over Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland and Iceland. They also carry some very nice music from other label friends, check 'em out : http://www.dotshop.se Our new BiP_HOp Generation - [v.7] - has been getting wonderful reactions, often described as the best volume in the series. David Toop & Max Eastley's doll creature has been welcomed too. Both CDs establishing the label in minimal, experimental spheres. Not willing to become classified it is a good time to make a change, a BIG change towards rhythmic Techno, launching the release of the double CD by Canadian hero : PAN/TONE. PAN/TONE : newfound urban calm + free CD of remixes [bleep 26/27] Pan/Tone is known for his releases on BackGround, Onitor, Neuton, Revolver, SubStatic but we are proud to present his best work to date. 12 new compositions + 10 remixes = 136 minutes filled with miniaturized techno. Subtle moves for your body, food for thoughts leading step by step to a restricted dance area. CD1 contains Pan/tone's compositions, showing many unique features to his sound. Ranging from Minimal Techno to punchy techno+rock (Rockno), a sound that rocks dancefloors and hopefully branches away from the norm. CD2 offers exclusive reworks of Pan/Tone music by Jeff Milligan-Algorithm, Losoul, Si-cut.db, Falko Brockseiper & Mia / SubStatic, Andy Vaz, Frank Martiniq, Rene Braithwarth, Duplex 100, Adam Marshall, Repair. Already described in Germany's De:Bug (issue # 86) as "the most versatile minimal record of the month". Fans of Kompakt related Techno will love this killer ! Wunderbar… My colleague Matthieu Voirin, from the Opak collective and I have started a group a few months ago, we are called Deviationists. We both start the composing process and invite friends to join and provide some guitars, percussions, chinese pipa, egyptian qanun hoping to really work as a collective and bring the diversity, richness lacking in many solo workers. What interests us is to place the term in a daily context, with its original sense of using a fact, a concept, as a starting point, and making it ours, deviating it. Trying to create something personal, our identity, our music. Knowing we won't be revolutioning contemporary creation, but hopefully we'll be able to give pleasure to listeners. We have done a remix of Murcof, to appear on his Static Discos + one of PulseProgramming, to be published on Aesthetics. Both bands ranging among the most interesting and creative in the new century I feel very flattered they like our music and will publish it in 2005. In the meantime the fine folks at Gonzo Circus magazine will release our first track on their new CD compilation "Mind The Gap" # 52, given away with the issue 65. Hope you can find a copy and enjoy the music. Si-cut.db and Iris Garrelfs are both finalizing the cover artwork for their upcoming album on BiP_HOp… Looks like both could see the light of day early in 2005. SI-CUT.DB : from tears : beach archive [bleep 28] IRIS GARRELFS : specified encounters [bleep 29] Last but not least our special offer : FREE w/ any order a collector CD of the Electronautes compilation, documenting our 4 day festival celebrating 5 years of Batofar. Featuring unreleased music by : dj/xx@xxx-xxx.xxx (Philippe Petit) ; RADIO MENTALE ; KOMET ; BERN ; TONNE ; KOMET + TONNE ; SI-CUT.DB ; JOHAN SKUGGE ; SARAH GOLDFARB ; TWINE ; WANG INC. plus a video clip by OBTIC with music of Si-cut.db. also given away with your order our brand new BiP_HOp sticker. ACT FAST since quantities are limited... Have a nice day Ip | 0000 \\\\.. \\\\ __ http://www.bip-hop.com _---| 0000 \\\\..\\\\ contemporary electronic musics challenging the ears and the mind --Boundary_(ID_ae0VL2kbGLjqCNjEyCJwEg)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 13:40:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32434-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 67083 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:40:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 67071 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:40:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:39:35 +0000 (GMT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Sprawl next week: Cooper, Headley, Un Caddie Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Quality Web Email v3.1k, http://netwinsite.com/refw.htm Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On the radio: Sprawl are part of the Small Pieces slot (in conjunction with [no.signal], Non Clickable, & D-fuse) on Resonance FM 104.4, midnight thru' to 1am BST (fridays). Next Sprawl show: October 22 http://www.resonancefm.com ahem! ... i think someone's been missed off this list ;) see you weds. Max slow sound system lie down and be counted xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ----- in league w/ [no.signal] | not clickable | sonomu | highpointlowlife | midrange | frequenzen ----- london headphones festival 2004 http://www.state51.org/placard 'midrange sessions', forthcoming on coombe records http://www.coomberecords.com 'there is no hidden meaning', forthcoming on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net slow sound system vs. posset, 'entropy sessions' out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net 'first steps' out now on grain of sound http://www.grainofsound.com imax photogallery : kill yr speed http://www.lomohomes.com/imax frequenzen, fortnightly on resonance 104.4fm http://www.frequenzen.co.uk sonomu : sound noise music http://www.sonomu.net highpointlowlife : guitars and laptops live happily ever after http://www.highpointlowlife.com [no.signal] : promoters of genius http://nosignal.slab.org kultureflash : headlines from london http://www.kultureflash.net sprawl club @ charterhouse http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl ----- no? reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 13:31:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32433-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62693 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:31:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 62681 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:31:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:43:59 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ambient/electronic/microound venues In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210602bd903ac96965@[64.63.223.236]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Does anyone know of any list anywhere that lists venues in different >cities that are friendly to ambient/experimental/microsound/glitch? >If such a list does not exist, I suggest we make one. People could >e-mail me the names, addresses, URLs, and any other useful >information about these places, and then I would compile a list >which either I could host. >I know a lot of us would like to play out more but don't know a lot >of places to approach about doing a show. If this sounds like a good >idea, start sending them my way, and also include places like art >galleries that may not be music venues but occasionally feature our >type of music. i thought i should post this to the whole list, because it should be taken as an invitation as well. any such artists living in, near, or traveling through NYC should check out this monthly lounge night: http://www.dogsbloodrising.org don't get freaked out by the name, this is actually a place where people of all stripes come to listen to good music that's fairly far left of center. dj's play sounds such as idm/electronica, krautrock, downtempo, shoegazer, glitch, ambient, rhythmic noise, and more unidentifiable musics. performers have included laptop artists, guitar pedal enthusiasts, avant-jazz brass and wind players, experimental turntablists, power electronics fiends, neofolk troubadors, postrock explorers, and more. take a look at the past and future artists, and get in contact with angel via the email link that should be on there. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 14:01:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32435-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74535 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:01:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 74525 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:01:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:00:09 +0000 (GMT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Sprawl next week: Cooper, Headley, Un Caddie Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Quality Web Email v3.1k, http://netwinsite.com/refw.htm Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Whoops! That email was supposed to go to Douglas, not the whole list. Sorry about that. Max > On the radio: > Sprawl are part of the Small Pieces slot (in conjunction > with [no.signal], Non Clickable, & D-fuse) on > Resonance FM 104.4, midnight thru' to 1am BST (fridays). > Next Sprawl show: October 22 > http://www.resonancefm.com > > ahem! ... i think someone's been missed off this list ;) > > see you weds. > > Max > > > slow sound system > lie down and be counted > > xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > www.slowsound.net > slow sound system lie down and be counted xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx www.slowsound.net ----- in league w/ [no.signal] | not clickable | sonomu | highpointlowlife | midrange | frequenzen ----- london headphones festival 2004 http://www.state51.org/placard 'midrange sessions', forthcoming on coombe records http://www.coomberecords.com 'there is no hidden meaning', forthcoming on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net slow sound system vs. posset, 'entropy sessions' out now on kabuki kore http://www.kabukikore.net 'first steps' out now on grain of sound http://www.grainofsound.com imax photogallery : kill yr speed http://www.lomohomes.com/imax frequenzen, fortnightly on resonance 104.4fm http://www.frequenzen.co.uk sonomu : sound noise music http://www.sonomu.net highpointlowlife : guitars and laptops live happily ever after http://www.highpointlowlife.com [no.signal] : promoters of genius http://nosignal.slab.org kultureflash : headlines from london http://www.kultureflash.net sprawl club @ charterhouse http://www.dfuse.com/sprawl ----- no? reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 14:27:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32436-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79480 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:21:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 79467 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:21:11 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:23:47 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] new project pages To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi i have put up pages for the two projects suggested recently in this space: http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/RingTones http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/DerridaMemorial i have put some text on the RingTones page, since i had ideas on how it should be run. as you might expect, i am open to changes regarding the technical specifications of the project. the DerridaMemorial project page is pretty much just a placeholder. i'll leave it to others to decide how to run that one. both pages will currently accept attachments, which is how you should submit your work to the project[s]. -- \js /http://or8.net/~johns /[. ].^/:/^ '.{ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 15:29:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32437-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3185 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:29:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 3175 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:29:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:34:37 -0400 From: Al C <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Hotline's up! To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD90204D.72E4%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know that the Hotline Client seems to be up and running again(or maybe you already knew that;) omnid --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 16:31:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32438-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41827 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:31:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 41811 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:30:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:29:28 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] linkies To: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c4afaf$90f799e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.grodesign.com/ http://www.hellologan.com http://www.phunkstudio.com http://www.yangtan.com http://www.designbybuild.com/ http://www.lacquersound.com/english/opener1.html http://www.lacquersound.com/ http://www.wyhiayg.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 17:27:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32441-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64278 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:27:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 64268 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:27:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:34:21 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: linkies -- Sorry & What you In-reply-to: <000001c4afaf$90f799e0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000101c4afb0$4de33fa0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sorry, these (OT) links were not meant for the list, I only meant to send: wyhiayg what you hear is all you get: http://www.wyhiayg.net/ enjoy. Eloy > -----Original Message----- > From: Eloy Anzola [mailto:xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 12:29 PM > To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Subject: linkies > > > http://www.grodesign.com/ > http://www.hellologan.com > http://www.phunkstudio.com > http://www.yangtan.com > http://www.designbybuild.com/ > http://www.lacquersound.com/english/opener1.html http://www.lacquersound.com/ http://www.wyhiayg.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 16:51:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32439-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51303 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:51:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 51293 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:51:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:54:52 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] ring tone project To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <02a001c4af79$904d38a0$xxxxxxxx@xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx nope. but it's such a brilliant idea, though. very cool. liberation chabalala wrote: > Was anyone lucky enough to be present at this? > http://www.flong.com/telesymphony/ > > ~jools > > DIALTONES > (A TELESYMPHONY) > A concert performed entirely through the ringing of the audience's mobile --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 17:27:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32442-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64870 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:27:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 64825 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:27:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:18:39 +0200 From: francesco quarto <xxxxxx@xxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Test In-reply-to: <009701c4afb6$6a609640$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD908D0F.40%xxxxxx@xxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx test --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 17:19:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32440-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61847 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:19:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 61837 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:19:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:19:07 +0200 From: Anton Weiss <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <009701c4afb6$6a609640$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <000a01c4ae48$2c2de4a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx derrida microsound memorial - sounds wonderful! i'm in! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 18:08:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32443-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79731 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:08:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 79721 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:08:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:11:35 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] RE: linkies -- Sorry & What you To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000101c4afb0$4de33fa0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx thanks!!! anymore like this out there? Eloy Anzola wrote: > Sorry, these (OT) links were not meant for the list, > I only meant to send: > > wyhiayg > what you hear is all you get: > http://www.wyhiayg.net/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 19:10:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32444-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1226 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:10:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 1215 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:10:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:08:56 -0400 From: bobby <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >>> i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. >> -Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have >> too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... > -I've have to correct that: ircam's program is called Open Music. > Common Music also exists and uses the C-language. > This is getting all twisted, guys. -Open Music is from IRCAM and has nothing to do with LISP. This does cost a lot of money. -Common Music is at Stanford. It absolutely *does* use LISP--hence the name "common"--*not* the C language and is free. Bobby. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 19:14:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32445-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3687 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:14:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 3676 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:14:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:13:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Diffusion X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For those of you interested in diffusion, I just found this resource: http://cec.concordia.ca/econtact/Diffusion/index.htm Suggested to me on the CEC list. Phil "Spatialization in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 19:30:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32446-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14453 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:30:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 14429 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:30:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:30:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [gear] Sound card for Linux X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Can any of the Linux heads on the list recommend a PC sound card that will work well with Linux? I put Gentoo on my PC recently, but I'm being prevented from doing anything useful with it because of IRQ conflicts with the sound card which I'm having trouble resolving (if anyone knows anything about this, I'd appreciate any info). I'm using an ens1370 (Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1370), but Gentoo doesn't seem to want to play with it. AGNULA's DeMuDi would freeze instantly when I tried to anything with sound. Xandros seemed to work fine with the sound card, but I got turned off from Debian's apt when it automagically wiped out KDE when I tried to install one tiny little graphics library. I am so frustrated and tired of dealing with Linux hardware issues with every single distro I try, that I am willing to buy hardware that will just work in Linux without hours of tweaking and twiddling and frustration on my part. If anyone has advice for ideal Linux sound cards (and network cards too, as my Dlink DFE-530TX has caused some issues on occasion), I'd appreciate it. Reply offlist if you want. Also, does anyone have experience with the CCRMA distro? Is it worth it? My ideal is to get Gentoo working for audio, and use that, as I love their package management system and some of their other features, but I could be talked into using CCRMA if there were definite audio advantages in that department. P "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 20:10:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32447-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30874 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:09:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 30852 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:09:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:12:29 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [gear] Sound card for Linux In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.10.11 19:30 +0000 ) Phil Thomson: > Can any of the Linux heads on the list recommend a PC sound card that > will work well with Linux? soundblaster live! i use gentoo, and they have a howto on their website about getting audio working. they use a sb live in the documentation. > I'm using an ens1370 (Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1370), but Gentoo doesn't > seem to want to play with it. hmm ... sometimes the card maker provides a utility program to check settings. you might need to boot into windows and then run the utility program and look at the card's settings. there might be a 'plug n play' override or something. i thought a PCI card would autoconfigure correctly w/o IRQ conflicts, but this might be incorrect. -- \js )!@[?"http://or8.net/~johns |+: }[(#% }@;)= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 20:15:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32448-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35250 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:15:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 35240 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:15:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Latest on jetgroove X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/11/jetgroove_mp3/ "Pirates in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 21:12:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32451-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61317 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:12:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 61306 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:12:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:01 +0200 From: Jan Larsson <xxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> Subject: Sv: [microsound] Latest on jetgroove In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 217.209.254.90 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD90C3C1.577B%xxx@xxxxx-xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS.org X-Report-Abuse-To: xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: mockba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx They recently (October 7th) changed servers (from Rusnix) and the current netblock owner seems to be: Cross Ventures, Ltd. dba Jetgroove LLP Suite 12, 3rd Floor, Queens House, 280 Tattenham Court Road London GB On the other hand the site is built by a company with an office in Odessa. Given Jetgrooves methods I wonder if their client list also is a fake: http://www.suponix.com/ /Jan L. with the Google Den 04-10-11 23.47, skrev "derek holzer" <xxxxx@x-x.xxx>: > According to a related Register article, you might just be lucky that > Jetgroove [apparently a Russian site] seems to comply with requests to > remove content. > > from: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/russian_mp3_site/ > >> ...currently there is an exemption under existing Russian copyright >> legislation (Article 39 for the aficionados) allowing phonograms to be >> performed publicly without the authorisation of the copyright owner for >> broadcasting and cable transmission. The Internet could be deemed to fall >> under this exemption. A similar argument can be applied to copies in the >> cache memory of computers. >> >> So as IFPI Russia's legal adviser, Vladimir Dragunov, concedes: "Because of >> these loopholes we don't have much chance of succeeding if we attack these >> companies who are using music files on the Internet under current Russian >> laws." > > You gotta hand it to our Russian brothers and sisters for showing us so > quickly what unbridled, unregulated, straight-up capitalism really looks > like ;-) > > d. > > > Phil Thomson wrote: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/11/jetgroove_mp3/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 20:25:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32449-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40123 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:24:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 40112 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:24:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:35:50 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [gear] Sound card for Linux In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Phil, quick note: Are you booting with acpi in the kernel? my suggestion is to try pci=acpi or even acpi=off, since you are using a desktop anyway [right?] This may give you a better IRQ assignment, which I suspect might be the problem. Otherwise, send me the output of "cat /proc/interrupts" and "lspci". These will tell you a lot about the IRQ assignments, and we can take it from there. You might also have to disable Plug and Play support in you kernel or BIOS, although I'm not entirely sure about that. I'm using Gentoo for everything now, and I love it. But it took hell and high water to work out how to get my Hammerfall DSP card going, but that was for Linux in general. The real joy comes once you've gotten the problems out of the way and you can really play around in a super clean system without all the windoze or mac system garbage getting in your way! So hang in there! Also, try the Gentoo forums or Linux Audio User list for more help. Planet CCRMA is nice for people who are just starting with Linux, it takes a lot of the headache away. But if you have/want to customize anything yourself, Fedora/RedHat is a RPITA. That's a *Royal* PITA, in case you wanna know. Gentoo is really best for people who like to tweak and optimize, or who have "special" hardware things which are hard to work out in other distros. I ofund it because of my HDSP, for example. But I don't recommend it for newbies. d. ps. I'll check out the track you sent me tomorrow! Phil Thomson wrote: > Can any of the Linux heads on the list recommend a PC sound card that > will work well with Linux? I put Gentoo on my PC recently, but I'm being > prevented from doing anything useful with it because of IRQ conflicts > with the sound card which I'm having trouble resolving (if anyone knows > anything about this, I'd appreciate any info). I'm using an ens1370 > (Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1370), but Gentoo doesn't seem to want to play with > it. AGNULA's DeMuDi would freeze instantly when I tried to anything with > sound. Xandros seemed to work fine with the sound card, but I got turned > off from Debian's apt when it automagically wiped out KDE when I tried > to install one tiny little graphics library. > > I am so frustrated and tired of dealing with Linux hardware issues with > every single distro I try, that I am willing to buy hardware that will > just work in Linux without hours of tweaking and twiddling and > frustration on my part. If anyone has advice for ideal Linux sound cards > (and network cards too, as my Dlink DFE-530TX has caused some issues on > occasion), I'd appreciate it. Reply offlist if you want. > > Also, does anyone have experience with the CCRMA distro? Is it worth it? > My ideal is to get Gentoo working for audio, and use that, as I love > their package management system and some of their other features, but I > could be talked into using CCRMA if there were definite audio advantages > in that department. > > P > > > "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." > Popular Mechanics, 1949 > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 61: "Don't be frightened of cliches" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 21:43:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32452-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73855 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:43:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 73845 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:43:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:46:17 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] speech synthesis sites? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <000101c4afb0$4de33fa0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i use this site a lot - http://www.research.att.com/projects/tts/demo.html - i use recycle to chop up the voice into microfragments, export the hundreds of bits and then resequence it. some amazing sounds. anymore out there? g. Eloy Anzola wrote: > > wyhiayg > what you hear is all you get: > http://www.wyhiayg.net/ > > enjoy. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 11 20:36:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32450-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44940 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:36:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 44929 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:36:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:47:20 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Latest on jetgroove In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx According to a related Register article, you might just be lucky that Jetgroove [apparently a Russian site] seems to comply with requests to remove content. from: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/russian_mp3_site/ > ...currently there is an exemption under existing Russian copyright legislation (Article 39 for the aficionados) allowing phonograms to be performed publicly without the authorisation of the copyright owner for broadcasting and cable transmission. The Internet could be deemed to fall under this exemption. A similar argument can be applied to copies in the cache memory of computers. > > So as IFPI Russia's legal adviser, Vladimir Dragunov, concedes: "Because of these loopholes we don't have much chance of succeeding if we attack these companies who are using music files on the Internet under current Russian laws." You gotta hand it to our Russian brothers and sisters for showing us so quickly what unbridled, unregulated, straight-up capitalism really looks like ;-) d. Phil Thomson wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/11/jetgroove_mp3/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 58: "Do we need holes?" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Mon Oct 11 23:46:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32454-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14561 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:46:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 14550 invoked from network); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:46:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:45:58 -0400 From: precursor <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Latest on jetgroove In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD909376.3343%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/11/04 5:47 PM, derek holzer at xxxxx@x-x.xxx wrote: > According to a related Register article, you might just be lucky that > Jetgroove [apparently a Russian site] seems to comply with requests to > remove content. > > from: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/russian_mp3_site/ > >> ...currently there is an exemption under existing Russian copyright >> legislation (Article 39 for the aficionados) allowing phonograms to be >> performed publicly without the authorisation of the copyright owner for >> broadcasting and cable transmission. The Internet could be deemed to fall >> under this exemption. A similar argument can be applied to copies in the >> cache memory of computers. >> >> So as IFPI Russia's legal adviser, Vladimir Dragunov, concedes: "Because of >> these loopholes we don't have much chance of succeeding if we attack these >> companies who are using music files on the Internet under current Russian >> laws." > > You gotta hand it to our Russian brothers and sisters for showing us so > quickly what unbridled, unregulated, straight-up capitalism really looks > like ;-) > > d. ill drink to that!!! :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 00:44:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32455-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29707 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:44:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 29696 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:44:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:44:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Feedback requested X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey all, Just put up a current draft of a piece that will be part of my MFA graduating project. I'd like to get your feedback. It's based on some recordings by Derek Holzer (karosta.edworks.net) which were made in Latvia. The sources are an Orthodox Mass in Karosta and some ice from the Baltic Sea. Link is here: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/PhilThomson_Karosta.mp3 Reply offlist if you want. Phil "mp3's in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 01:08:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32456-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37290 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:07:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 37280 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:07:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:04:29 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Feedback requested In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Being on dial up I got about 6 seconds of this but I like it. What are the points behind this as your master project? Luc Ferrari's field recording pieces where he erased everything down to the repetitive actions of everyday has always interested me, but I've never heard it. Is there a Japanese re-issue of those albums? Peace, A On Oct 11, 2004, at 8:44 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > Hey all, > > Just put up a current draft of a piece that will be part of my MFA > graduating project. I'd like to get your feedback. > > It's based on some recordings by Derek Holzer (karosta.edworks.net) > which were made in Latvia. The sources are an Orthodox Mass in Karosta > and some ice from the Baltic Sea. > > Link is here: > > http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/PhilThomson_Karosta.mp3 > > Reply offlist if you want. > > Phil > > > "mp3's in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." > Popular Mechanics, 1949 > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 02:20:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32457-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54280 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:20:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 54269 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:20:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:20:08 +0100 From: Michael Wright <x_xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] audio software environments To: microsound list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all, I'm currently researching into audio software for my dissertation and would really like to hear your answers to some of the questions i have. I'm making a bit of a presumption in thinking that everybody on this list makes music and an even further assumption that the majority use predominantly audio software. Regardless of wether this is true or not, i'm sure you have an opinion of some kind on the matter...thanks.... Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce musically more valuable results than those that require little? Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines language? At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration between the user and the software programmer? Would you ever release a record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or garageband? At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something that's more to with computers than music? In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between the tools they use and that of the mainstream media? In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, 303 etc? Your opinions are of great value to me with my research as well as my personal quest to find out what the hell this whole computer music thing is about, thanks, Michael. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 02:59:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32458-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 67375 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:59:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 67365 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:59:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:59:26 -0700 From: GrahamWakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Random or Algorithmic Music Genrators In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD90969E.C1B%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Though open source, Open Music does require Digitool MCL (a not-free implementation of Common LISP) to be built http://recherche.ircam.fr/equipes/repmus/OpenMusic/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/ircam-openmusic/ FYI - if you're part of an instution with Ircam composition registration (or are yourself registered) I believe the distributed CDROM includes a stable but beta binary for OSX - meaning you don't need MCL. On 11/10/04 12:08 pm, "bobby" <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>> i think ircam also has a lisp-based program. >>> -Yes indeed. It's called Common Music and you have >>> too spend lots of money on it and on a lisp - compiler... >> -I've have to correct that: ircam's program is called Open Music. >> Common Music also exists and uses the C-language. >> > > This is getting all twisted, guys. > > -Open Music is from IRCAM and has nothing to do with LISP. This does > cost a lot of money. > -Common Music is at Stanford. It absolutely *does* use LISP--hence the > name "common"--*not* the C language and is free. > > > Bobby. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 03:04:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32459-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69109 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:04:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 69099 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:04:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:00:15 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 11, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Michael Wright wrote: > In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software > environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and > effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular > tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do > much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). > Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between > the tools they use and that of the mainstream media? > Ha! That's going to encourage some flames! But seriously, the reason to use max/msp etc to make your own music is twofold: 1) if you know exactly what you want, you can make it. 2) if you don't know exactly what you want, you might discover it or accidentally create it. There is also the simple joy of becoming intimately involved in the creation of your musical tools. Many electronic musicians do this kind of thing, whether it be modifying amplifiers to create distortion, circuit bending toys or writing your own software. It can be an exceptionally satisfying experience. I'd also take issue with the "sounding better in far less time", but I'll leave that to someone feeling more wound up about it. Anthony (who is soon going to be posting about a generative max/msp patch he's making available...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 03:50:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32460-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81027 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:50:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 81016 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:50:10 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:50:39 -0400 From: mike <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] {NYC} Butch Morris 10/12 @ The Tank In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD90CCCF.40E90%xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sometimes he is quite microsound. Sometimes he is not. But some of the upcoming events might be of interest to listmembers as well. --------------- spaceworks at The Tank is very pleased to bring you: Butch Morris, with the Free Zone / Sound Infusion Orchestra: "Conduction No. 141: EMYOUESEYESEE" Please see www.conduction.us for more info on Butch Morris. This will be an exciting event and may sell out, so get there early or reserve tickets online through our website (www.thetanknyc.org). Butch Morris "Conduction No. 141" Tuesday October 12 2 sets at 9pm & 10pm sharp $10 / set The Tank - 432 W 42nd Street between 9th and 10th ave 212-563-6269 www.thetanknyc.org ----- upcoming: October 26 Free Zone Music Series William Hooker Quartet Mark Taylor Quartet Diana Wayburn Trio November 6 8 over 4 series: The second installment of the series presents chiaki and Paperrad (visuals) and Bubblyfish and Glomag (audio). November 6 - 28 chiaki watanabe : _scape storefront window video installation November 9 Free Zone Music Series Lou Grassi Group and more TBA November 17 kere,u ( ) society cleaners g-stompz man from planet risk adam kendall giles hendrix daniel vatsky plus more tba November 23 Free Zone Music Series Billy Bang Matt Maneri + more TBA ----- BREAKING NEWS The Tank will be managing a SECOND TANK SPACE for the months of November and December of this year. We are not moving right now, we are simply gaining a second space to bring more weird events to more weird parts of town (deep in the Garment District). Its a very good space for installation / interactive art and performance. There will be more details about this soon, but if you are interested in getting involved somehow, do let us know. ALSO The Tank will be losing its present home sometime in the near future. It is still unclear when this will happen. But check out http://future.thetanknyc.org to read all about it. And if you want to help us find a new space somehow, again, get in touch. Thanks, Mike Rosenthal & Daniel Greenfeld spaceworks @ The Tank --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 04:14:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32461-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87511 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:14:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 87501 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:14:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:14:14 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx and to answer the rest of your poll: On Oct 11, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Michael Wright wrote: > Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce > musically more valuable results than those that require little? Generally, yes. Isn't this the case with all instruments, however? Are you sure you are asking the right question here? > Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines > language? Definitely. I love Reason and Live and use them when appropriate. I can write Squarepusher-y amen mash ups in Reason faster than I can believe. It's also good for sketching out melodies and song structures. Appropriate tools for appropriate jobs. Understand however that the more time one spends with a piece of software the faster their are at using it. I know people who are lightning fast at writing complex beats with trackers like octamed and fasttracker. And with programs like Max/MSP, Supercollider, and Reaktor, one accumulates a large array of re-usable piece of code, macros and patches that are utilized where appropriate over and over again. I suspect however that you are too freely intermingling the ideas of composition and tool/instrument/fx creation. > At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration > between the user and the software programmer? Would you ever release > a record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or > garageband? What does Garage Band have to do with those other products? It's a multitrack recorder, a dumbed down version of Logic Audio. It's extremely useful when one doesn't have access to protools or logic. The loops etc are just window dressing. I use Garage Band as a four-track regularly, although nowadays I use Live 4 for this. I also used to make hardcore gabber by hacking audio files into Rebirth's resource fork. Does that answer your question? > At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something > that's more to with computers than music? CSound? I kid, I kid. I do suspect that there is a tool-creation vs composition/performance split that you are really interested in, rather than necessarily music vs computer. > In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software > environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and > effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular > tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do > much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). I'd disagree, but then again I'm a fan of autechre, hrvatski, tetsu inoue, etc. I'd recommend reading the more historical chapters in Curtis Roads' book Microsound. The easy availability of granular tools is, historically speaking, very recent. Remember that 10 years ago there was no Reaktor or AudioMulch. And the only reason that some of these sounds are available in popular audio software is because they were popularized by Aphex Twin, Oval, Autechre, all of whom have either made their own software or had others make stuff for them. > Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between > the tools they use and that of the mainstream media? There is a certain aura to the use of Max/MSP etc that makes it hip or attractive, but I think that "computer musicians" are mostly just trying to do new and personal things with computers. Also, the way popular electronic music (dance, techno, jungle, what-have-you), any new sound or fx gets it's obvious uses beaten into the ground within a couple years at best. I've ended up diving into Max/MSP out of sheer necessity; it is a much more intimate creation environment than anything else I've previously used, and the kinds of sounds I want to make are a very hard sell commercially and thus are not catered to by the mainstream software companies. So I'm making my own tools and instruments, to use along side those that I've bought that I like, and to manipulate audio I create. > In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a > consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a > certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, > 303 etc? The music you make is almost always some kind of collaboration with the tools you use to make it or the instruments it will be played on. "There's nothing you can sing that can't be sung." It's just that with computer music and techno, it's a bit more obvious. There is also a definite stigma attached to certain products. Buzz, Reason, Live, Fruity Loops seem to be really disrespected in some circles, but are in fact in use by some really talented, experimental musicians. On the other hand, there's a fair number of folks who lust for a kyma even if they've never seen one in person. it's late and my brain is melting, hopefully some of this was of some use. Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 05:12:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32462-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3171 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:12:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 3160 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:12:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:10:00 +1300 From: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Subject: [microsound] linkage In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxx.xxxx.xx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0610050bbd9116d644e0@[192.168.1.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ff+HRoydRK5rIZZNVHJpPw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ff+HRoydRK5rIZZNVHJpPw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just a few links i've come across recently (apologies if they've already been mentioned) video footage from the Ars Electronica symposiums http://www.aec.at/en/festival/programm/webcasts_timeshift.asp WMV format, downloadable & unrelated: http://www.wyhiayg.net wyhiayg is a web-code-reader. enter the URL of any website and you will receive a mp3-encoded reading of its HTML-source-code. -- "I call architecture frozen music" J.W.Goethe --Boundary_(ID_ff+HRoydRK5rIZZNVHJpPw)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 05:54:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32463-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 01:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11234 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:54:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 11224 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:54:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:54:00 -0700 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx 85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce > musically more valuable results than those that require little? As was mentioned before, I'm not sure that this is the right question...or maybe it's not specific enough. I think that the results of an application rests more upon the user of the software than the software itself. The level of user input required of a given application will only achieve more "musically valuable" results (perhaps "specifically intended" results is a better term) when married with intimate knowledge of the control required. The actual results between these two programs may be no different, but the amount of skill needed to produce the results differ, which lends to more credibility. > Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines > language? Generally, I prefer speed to absolute control. If I can print my idea before it fades, it doesn't matter how it gets down, I'm happy. I much prefer any application that "gets the hell out of my way" and allows me to express musical ideas. Most programming languages, be they graphical or code based seem to require more attention to the program than the idea. This causes a dilution of the original idea as the time building the required tools for capture passes, at least in my experience. I suppose this could be due to my lack of fluency in these languages, but it seems to me that this level of fluency enabling quick enough capture of ideas is near mythical. > At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration > between the user and the software programmer? I personally haven't ever noticed a composition move into the realm of collaboration with a programmer. I've felt that the software becomes somewhat of a collaboration, but not compositions. > Would you ever release a record that was created using e-jay, > playstation music 2000 or garageband? Absolutely. I really enjoy the depth of seemingly shallow tools when explored and taken to new levels. <cliche>Anything can be a expressive instrument given enough time.</cliche> Fifty years ago you would have been laughed out the room had you predicted that something as simple and consumer oriented as a turntable could be played as an expressive musical instrument in the ways it is today. > At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something > that's more to with computers than music? See the next response. > In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software > environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and > effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular > tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do > much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). This has been a bit of a pet peeve of mine for a while and I expect to get hit hard for this response. It seems that most academic music is really quite inaccessible and therefore by proxy, is generally thought of as being bad by all but the twenty or so people who can appreciate the process of creation. Just because someone designed and forged the computer from raw materials, developed their own machine language, OS and synthesis scripting program may speak volumes of their knowledge of computer science, but it doesn't, in my eyes, excuse them from a critique of the produced music as it stands on it's own. It is at this point that it seems to becomes more about computer science than composition. Does an extraordinary process permit a mediocre result? I believe that it does not. I believe that, ideally, both the process and the result will stand to critique, and if nothing else, that the result should be the paramount focus. > Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between > the tools they use and that of the mainstream media? I believe so, but this is the case with a fair amount of professionals who use computer application in their profession. The more isolated and complex the tools you use to create, the fewer people there are who can use those tools effectively, hopefully rendering your creations more unique. I think it's a natural response to an often competitive market. > In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a > consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a > certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, > 303 etc? I actually don't like having sounds recognizable as being produced by specific software. I'm not sure why, perhaps it lends an unintended identity to the music when someone (even myself) can immediately recognize the program that a sound originated from. Perhaps it plays into my previous response on the desire to have processes stay enigmatic and unattainable. Who knows. > Your opinions are of great value to me with my research as well as my > personal quest to find out what the hell this whole computer music > thing is about, Glad to do it. I'd be interested in reading your findings. Cheers, k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 08:20:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32464-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41869 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:20:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 41859 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:20:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:20:56 +1000 From: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD91D108.100E2%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx tobias c. van Veenwrote: > Given that Derrida had much to say on the subject of death and memorial, > perhaps those in favour can address these topics. It would show a degree of > respect of an-other's death. > Thinking of the abyssal, the sound of the abyss, music turning back on itself, iteration, music which appropriates itself, appropriates the proper of itself, its own property(s). Music as gift without return, profit, surplus value... sacrifice as opposed to mastery. Rockin the foundations. ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 09:44:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32465-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58705 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:44:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 58695 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:44:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:44:43 +0100 From: Alex Young <xxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Flash device bringing music back from the dead To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I thought this might be of interest to a few people on this list: My friend has a flash MP3 player, and he's found that some 'broken' MP3s caused the player to play chunks of old MP3s that he's deleted. I assume this is because the filesystem on the memory device just allocates deleted chunks to be overwritten, so it never actually deletes the data. I think the fact deleted MP3s were coming back from the dead surprised him somewhat! I didn't realise corrupted MP3s could cause this kind of behaviour. I'm not exactly sure if this is limited to the software on his MP3 player or not. This is the player he uses: http://extremetech.shopping.com/xPF-Hyun_Won_DAH1000_512MB Has anyone experienced this with other music devices? Thanks, Alex -- homepage: http://alexyoung.org music: http://noise.me.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 10:22:27 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32466-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65950 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:22:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 65940 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:22:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:22:01 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <BD91D108.100E2%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD8DD34F.16CC5%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> <BD91D108.100E2%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:20:56 +1000, Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote: > Music as gift without return, profit, > surplus value... sacrifice as opposed to mastery. Music as a potlatch ceremony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 11:44:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32467-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80745 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:44:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 80734 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:44:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:43:56 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [gear] Sound card for Linux In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hey phil, i've been messing about with demudi on my tower that has the m-audio 2496 - seems fine so far, thought i have not run any midi sync tests with outboard gear, but i can't see there being any prob. i'll let u know how i get on. perhaps switch off all the networking and build the system mod by mod? cheers http://www.sijis.com music with a limited appeal Phil Thomson wrote: > Can any of the Linux heads on the list recommend a PC sound card that > will work well with Linux? I put Gentoo on my PC recently, but I'm > being prevented from doing anything useful with it because of IRQ > conflicts with the sound card which I'm having trouble resolving (if > anyone knows anything about this, I'd appreciate any info). I'm using > an ens1370 (Ensoniq AudioPCI ES1370), but Gentoo doesn't seem to want > to play with it. AGNULA's DeMuDi would freeze instantly when I tried > to anything with sound. Xandros seemed to work fine with the sound > card, but I got turned off from Debian's apt when it automagically > wiped out KDE when I tried to install one tiny little graphics library. > > I am so frustrated and tired of dealing with Linux hardware issues > with every single distro I try, that I am willing to buy hardware that > will just work in Linux without hours of tweaking and twiddling and > frustration on my part. If anyone has advice for ideal Linux sound > cards (and network cards too, as my Dlink DFE-530TX has caused some > issues on occasion), I'd appreciate it. Reply offlist if you want. > > Also, does anyone have experience with the CCRMA distro? Is it worth > it? My ideal is to get Gentoo working for audio, and use that, as I > love their package management system and some of their other features, > but I could be talked into using CCRMA if there were definite audio > advantages in that department. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 12:42:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32468-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94736 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:42:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 94725 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:42:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:42:11 +0100 From: Michael Wright <x_xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 12 Oct 2004, at 06:54, Kevin Ponto wrote: >> Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce >> musically more valuable results than those that require little? > > As was mentioned before, I'm not sure that this is the right > question...or maybe it's not specific enough. I think that the results > of an application rests more upon the user of the software than the > software itself. The level of user input required of a given > application will only achieve more "musically valuable" results > (perhaps "specifically intended" results is a better term) when > married with intimate knowledge of the control required. The actual > results between these two programs may be no different, but the amount > of skill needed to produce the results differ, which lends to more > credibility. > > No i meant exactly the question but yes not specific enough. Do you not find that you tend to change your way of thinking about a piece after hearing the composers technical rundown on how it was created? I feel that we make allowances for music that is created with complex programming tools even when they sound bad. If it had been known that this same bad music was created with average audio software it would be inexcusable. My apologies for a dumb question, this just seems to be the way it is in this scene. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 12:58:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32469-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98350 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:58:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 98339 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:58:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:12:58 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210600bd9186f896c5@[64.63.223.211]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >On 12 Oct 2004, at 06:54, Kevin Ponto wrote: > >>>Does audio software that requires high levels of user input >>>produce musically more valuable results than those that require >>>little? >> >>As was mentioned before, I'm not sure that this is the right >>question...or maybe it's not specific enough. I think that the >>results of an application rests more upon the user of the software >>than the software itself. The level of user input required of a >>given application will only achieve more "musically valuable" >>results (perhaps "specifically intended" results is a better term) >>when married with intimate knowledge of the control required. The >>actual results between these two programs may be no different, but >>the amount of skill needed to produce the results differ, which >>lends to more credibility. >> > >No i meant exactly the question but yes not specific enough. Do you >not find that you tend to change your way of thinking about a piece >after hearing the composers technical rundown on how it was created? >I feel that we make allowances for music that is created with >complex programming tools even when they sound bad. If it had been >known that this same bad music was created with average audio >software it would be inexcusable. My apologies for a dumb question, >this just seems to be the way it is in this scene. personally, i don't care much about the tools used to create something unless the result is good. if a piece is bad, but i can tell it took a lot of work, i might appreciate the amount of edits or something, but i still wouldn't want to listen to it again. what that may accomplish is giving me a certain amount of respect for the musician as someone who is at least trying even if they're not successful with their finished music yet. so i might give them a try next time to see if their results have started matching up with their hard work. i think there is too much emphasis on the latest software (and before that, hardware). people will find a way to be creative if they are. if you lack the perfect tools to do what you want, you will come up with another way around it. so many tools are created to actually remove the creativity from the artist's hands. this piece of gear or that plugin is meant to do very specific and obvious things that companies hope musicians will think is hip and use all over their next hit record, and then everyone will want to buy what they make. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 13:31:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32470-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6804 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:30:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 6794 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:30:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:30:05 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 12, 2004, at 8:42 AM, Michael Wright wrote: > No i meant exactly the question but yes not specific enough. Do you > not find that you tend to change your way of thinking about a piece > after hearing the composers technical rundown on how it was created? > I feel that we make allowances for music that is created with complex > programming tools even when they sound bad. If it had been known that > this same bad music was created with average audio software it would > be inexcusable. My apologies for a dumb question, this just seems to > be the way it is in this scene. Perhaps you just don't like this kind of music, or rather, you don't like specific kinds of computer music? Who's music is it that you don't like that is getting a lot of hype? What do you mean by "sound bad." Aura is a big deal in all kinds of music. Read a guitar magazine from the mid 80s and see them freak out over technically brilliant but soulless guitar-wank. All "scenes" add value to music based on extra-musical context. Discovering the process behind a piece of music can give one a new perspective from which to appreciate it, but if the end result is boring or bad music, it's still bad music. Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 13:52:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32472-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12208 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:52:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 12198 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:52:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:51:40 +0100 From: Michael Wright <x_xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On 12 Oct 2004, at 14:30, Anthony Saunders wrote: > Perhaps you just don't like this kind of music, or rather, you don't > like specific kinds of computer music? Who's music is it that you > don't like that is getting a lot of hype? What do you mean by "sound > bad." > Obviously it's a matter of opinion when something is bad or not. Don't get me wrong, i too believe that if the end result is boring, it's boring. But you have to admit that it is a problem with this scene. I'm probably going to be grilled for this example but take Curtis Roads. The guy is a god for sure and i am forever grateful for his developments but his music isn't so hot (in my opinion obviously). If you someone played you a Curtis Roads piece and told them it was a friend of yours and he used the granular synth in Absynth, you wouldn't give it the time of day you would the Roads. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 14:04:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32473-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16274 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:04:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 16264 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:04:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:03:42 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 12, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Michael Wright wrote: >> Perhaps you just don't like this kind of music, or rather, you don't >> like specific kinds of computer music? Who's music is it that you >> don't like that is getting a lot of hype? What do you mean by "sound >> bad." >> > Obviously it's a matter of opinion when something is bad or not. > Don't get me wrong, i too believe that if the end result is boring, > it's boring. But you have to admit that it is a problem with this > scene. I'm probably going to be grilled for this example but take > Curtis Roads. The guy is a god for sure and i am forever grateful for > his developments but his music isn't so hot (in my opinion obviously). > If you someone played you a Curtis Roads piece and told them it was a > friend of yours and he used the granular synth in Absynth, you > wouldn't give it the time of day you would the Roads. This kind of context based valuation is common to every music scene on the planet. Happens in punk rock, hip-hop, prog rock, techno, etc. Also a Roads piece of granular synthesis from the 70s or 80s gets a different consideration than a Roads piece from today. Context is important. I haven't heard enough Roads body of work to have a well-considered opinion; the few minutes I've heard I've enjoyed, but not to the level of similar material from Tetsu Inoue. Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 14:14:33 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32475-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20068 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:14:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 20058 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:14:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:23:47 +1000 From: scissors for sparrow <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] (melb/AU): event this sunday To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this sunday, october 17th... "SONIC SCRAPBOOK" featuring: MAJORCA BUILDING MIMIC MASS SCISSORS FOR SPARROW ANTHEA CADDY ROSE TURTLE ALICE HUI-SHENG CHANG [it's the debut scissors for sparrow show!] -------------------------- gertrude's - 30 gertrude st, fitzroy 6pm / $10 -------------------------- supporting "strangers & intimacy" - an international collaboration hitting westspace in jan/feb '05 jon xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.xx http://www.users.tpg.com.au/adslalnw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 14:10:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32474-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18021 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:10:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 18011 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:10:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:24:52 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments and context In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210603bd919882b67f@[64.63.223.211]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Also a Roads piece of granular synthesis from the 70s or 80s gets a >different consideration than a Roads piece from today. Context is >important. usually the only people who care about context are the same people who talk about this stuff on e-lists or in print, or are some kind of music historian/geeks. nothing against those people; i am one of them obviously. but i find myself arguing in favor of context when trying to explain why something 10 or 20 years old is good to someone who has no sense of context. like, "when this was done, there were no computers or sequencers! this person had to come up with this and play it themselves!" which just makes the person arguing sound like your aged relative romanticizing having to walk 12 miles each day in knee-deep snow to get to school. but sometimes people are jaded because they think everything is easy and always has been. and sometimes they don't give a rat's ass...they just want something that hits them right away and that they think "rocks", no questions asked, no strings attached...no context. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 14:34:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32476-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27158 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:34:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 27148 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:34:48 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:34:43 -0500 From: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Cd duplication small orders To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I know its been a while, but I just realised that a local Canadian manufacturer will do small runs. I think they do international orders. http://www.polarbearltd.com/ I've only used them for LP packaging, but they do runs of 300 for CDs. Ask for Heather. -chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 14:55:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32477-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31260 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:48:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 31247 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:48:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:47:14 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments and context In-reply-to: <p05210603bd919882b67f@[64.63.223.211]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p05210603bd919882b67f@[64.63.223.211]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Yes, but that is always going to be the split between "scene" and "non-scene" I'm a serial enthusiast; I jump from one obsession to the next, absorb all I can about the topic/scene, and then move on to the next enthusiasm, retaining my favorite stuff from the previous one. I've torn through superhero comics, punk rock, grindcore, death metal, prog rock, crust, jungle, gabber, IDM, ambient, old school video games, new school video games, manga, indie comics, horror films, art films, sci-fi novels, post-modernism, etc. These kinds of questions, about context, about elitism, about hardcore vs mainstream, etc, arise in every single one of these enthusiast communities! Every single one! Context matters to the old guard, and the "newbies" want shit that rocks. The more knowledge one acquires about both the historical context of the music and about one's own personal taste, the more baggage one has when evaluating a new sound. I know I frustrated myself endlessly back in '98-00 I was so focused on trying to force my computer to sound like my analog harsh noise material that I didn't realize that I wasn't paying attention to the strengths and weaknesses of the instrument (computer.) When I listen to the material I did back then, the best material is the stuff I made where I was just playing around with wave editors without preconception of what it should sound like. There is nothing specific to microsound or computer music that creates this dynamic. Anthony On Oct 12, 2004, at 10:24 AM, chthonic streams wrote: >> Also a Roads piece of granular synthesis from the 70s or 80s gets a >> different consideration than a Roads piece from today. Context is >> important. > > usually the only people who care about context are the same people who > talk about this stuff on e-lists or in print, or are some kind of > music historian/geeks. nothing against those people; i am one of them > obviously. but i find myself arguing in favor of context when trying > to explain why something 10 or 20 years old is good to someone who has > no sense of context. like, "when this was done, there were no > computers or sequencers! this person had to come up with this and play > it themselves!" which just makes the person arguing sound like your > aged relative romanticizing having to walk 12 miles each day in > knee-deep snow to get to school. but sometimes people are jaded > because they think everything is easy and always has been. and > sometimes they don't give a rat's ass...they just want something that > hits them right away and that they think "rocks", no questions asked, > no strings attached...no context. > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 15:17:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32479-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43580 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:17:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 43570 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:17:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:13:29 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Interview 0.8.5: an audio software environment (heh) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i made a simple somewhat-generative max/msp patch for turning audio files into evolving masses of sound... I discussed it with a few people online and they wanted to check it out so I've cleaned up an older stable version of it and made a little website for it. http://www.overwhelmed.org/maxmsp/interview/ This is my first serious max/msp patch, so it's rather crude and sloppy but still useful for turning short audio phrases (20 seconds or so) into a large shifting, evolving mass of stereo sound. Use it however you like. If you make anything with this, I'd love to hear or hack it. Fed the right sounds and with a little tweaking of the presets, it sounds quite nice. Fed the wrong sounds and it's boring or ugly. I'm still figuring out what "right sounds" and "wrong sounds" are and why. More sophisticated versions are in the works, I'm redesigning each patcher basically from scratch for a new version. It's based in part on Kalerne 9 found here: http://kalerne.free.fr/ I've learned a lot about max/msp from the patches freely available there. Requires tap.tools~ because I'm new to max/msp and using tap.pan~ and tap.crossfade~ was easier than solving those problems myself, and once I did that, i also used the pitch-shifting object. Possibly requires Max/MSP 4.5, but I'm not sure and I don't have anyone else to test it out for me... hopefully someone finds this useful, whether to make sounds with or as an example of what can be done in max/msp with a rudimentary understanding of the program. Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 15:14:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32478-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41402 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:14:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 41391 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:14:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:14:41 +0100 From: Michael Wright <x_xxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JcqrYztbVq2isZIYf14JUg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_JcqrYztbVq2isZIYf14JUg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12 Oct 2004, at 15:03, Anthony Saunders wrote: > Also a Roads piece of granular synthesis from the 70s or 80s gets a > different consideration than a Roads piece from today. Context is > important. I totally agree, but where are peoples excuses nowadays? This is a section of an interview with Brian Eno. The great benefit [of tools like Cubase] is that they remove the issue of skill, and replace it with the issue of judgment. With Cubase or [an imaging program like] Photoshop, anybody can actually do anything, and you can make stuff that sounds very much like stuff you'd hear on the radio, or looks very much like anything you'd see in magazines. So the question becomes not whether you can do it or not, because any drudge can do it if they're prepared to sit in front of the computer for a few days; the question then is: of all the things you can now do, which do you choose to do? I can see the necessity of trying brand new methods of process to try and exceed what exists and find new sounds in the same way Curtis Roads does. But a lot experimental electronic musicians still persist to prove the worthiness of their music with a whole speech about the process. If the only thing we are dealing with is sound then the sound should speak for itself. A technical insight is like admitting the sound doesn't work. This is my original question and i'm asking this from the point of view of a naive "newbie" who looks to the past and present for inspiration. Should we take the technical process into consideration when "listening" to electronic music? If the answers yes then surely we are creating an art form that exists independent of music and has equal interest in computers? It seems the ones that are benefiting from this whole thing are those with the perspective of the eno quote. Those who take the tools, do what they have to do and move on. --Boundary_(ID_JcqrYztbVq2isZIYf14JUg)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 15:28:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32481-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49782 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:28:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 49772 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:28:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:28:13 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Michael Wright wrote: > I totally agree, but where are peoples excuses nowadays? Well, have you ever played even mildly experimental computer music to a crowd? Do you know what happens at the end of your set? "hey man, nice set! what software do you use?!?" Happens to basically everyone. There is something about performing with computers that makes people curious about the software used. This topic has come up on this list a lot over the years. And in a scene where a large percentage of the listeners are also creators, the process is going to have more sway than usual. At the end of the day, however, there's few people who listen to music solely for the process, and only a jackass will refuse to listen to something they actually like simply because of the software used. As I've mentioned before, there are a lot of well respected people who make fantastic music with generally disrespected software. 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Tue Oct 12 15:41:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32482-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57901 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:41:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 57868 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:41:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:40:33 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Michael Wright wrote: >> I totally agree, but where are peoples excuses nowadays? Another perspective that just occured to me. Some of the music discussed on this list is so far outside of what people generally consider pleasant to listen to, or even what people generally consider music, that artists can feel like they have to provide a context to legitimize what they are doing. Or they are tired of explaining why their noise is different than just listening to static on the radio. It can be exceptionally difficult to explain why one enjoys the music one does, especially when it is far outside the range of music that the inquirer has heard before. Discussing the process can be one way of attempting to bridge that gap. On the flip side, it is certainly a prove market-strategy to present yourself as doing edgy music with personally created gear. It gives the impression that something really unique and special will be heard, or that the artist is a genius or whatever. Look at the way Aphex Twin manipulated the media in the 90's for a great example of this... as good as I think his music is, I think his manipulation of his image in the media is just as impressive. Anthony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 13:47:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32471-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10702 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:47:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 10691 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:47:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:53:01 +0000 From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx auth:71925b1d09fec6f868aea9cb75dd0fbe X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > I feel that we make allowances for music that is created with complex > > programming tools even when they sound bad. maybe the "bad sound", whatever that means, is the key to another musical system. better or worse are terms of competition that in a way should be applied to the listeners: for one a bell (or the associativity) e.g. may be the worst thing on earth - for the other it´s the musical highlight of the year. depends on the point of view of the listener to find the right "mood". independent of how it is produced. j ,. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 16:05:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32483-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75267 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:05:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 75251 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:05:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:05:49 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments - aphex twin To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >as >good as I think his music is, I think his manipulation of his image in >the media is just as impressive. both figuratively and literally...the windowlicker publicity shots still crack me up and make me applaud the photoshop artist and photographer. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 16:11:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32484-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80347 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:10:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 80336 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:10:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:10:18 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments - aphex twin In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I thought those were photoshop as well, but I'm pretty sure they were actually latex masks! read up on the making of come to daddy and windowlicker, those are masks in the videos! Anthony On Oct 12, 2004, at 12:05 PM, chthonic wrote: > >> as >> good as I think his music is, I think his manipulation of his image > in >> the media is just as impressive. > > both figuratively and literally...the windowlicker publicity shots > still > crack me up and make me applaud the photoshop artist and > photographer. > > d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 16:15:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32485-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83842 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:15:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 83827 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:15:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:14:12 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?U+liYXN0aWVuIEhheWV6?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments - aphex twin X-Originating-IP: [81.53.70.221] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2004 16:15:04.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[A22D8C20:01C4B076] Exactl ! Chris Cunningham use only latex for creating the Aphex-twin face on other body. Not so digital... >I thought those were photoshop as well, but I'm pretty sure they were >actually latex masks! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Actions Solidaires : http://www.msn.fr/actionssolidaires/ la solidarité à portée de click --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 16:21:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32486-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87333 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:21:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 87323 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:21:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:21:17 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OT - aphex twin imagery To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:10:18 -0400 > >I thought those were photoshop as well, but I'm pretty sure they were >actually latex masks! > >read up on the making of come to daddy and windowlicker, those are >masks in the videos! i know the videos use latex masks of james' face. i'm talking about the CD and video covers of windowlicker, and the promotional photos that also appear in the chris cunningham DVD booklet, with a different bikini girl with james' face and hair. one even has one of them kissing another on the cheek. i don't see how you could do that with a mask. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 15:25:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32480-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47563 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 47530 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:21:54 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002101c4b077$9bbd7ca0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Michael Wright > Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce > musically more valuable results than those that require little? I think there are some factors that make for a loose corelation between those factors but certainly no causal relationship. In general I think more intensive work by the composer will make the piece more satisfying for him and that dedication and involvement might very well lead to musically more interesting material. It need not be on the software level though, it might also consist of a well thought out compositional idea or some special field recordings. > > Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines > language? Certainly, as long as it doesn´t become a limitation. The faster the program is to work with, the more likely it is to have limitations or simplifications. If i run into those I´ll switch to something slower but more detailed. Without a doubt there are people that considder overcoming hardships it´s own reward and to some it very well may be, for my time I´d like to have some music. I think having complete control over the whole process can be very valuable but in many cases the higher level tools do exactly what you´d have home brew code do in which case writing the code makes little sense, particularly if you *could* write that code. > > At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration > between the user and the software programmer? That´s a good question. Probably at the point where one is for some reason stuck with one program and it´s feature set. Since we can select what tool we want most of the time and base that selection on how features compare to what we want I don´t see this as a major factor most of the time, but it might be interesting to give oneself a assignment to make a piece with a new, unknown program, exploiting it´s typical features. In the other direction. we might build or program a instrument, then have others play this, for example as a part of a live performance. That instrument might be made speciffically to do certain kinds of things, limiting our press-ganged musician. In some ways using a instrument build by others will be a colaboration but it need not be preceived as such and even if it is, that might not be a bad thing. A while ago a friend of mine needed a simple lowpass filter for a live performance so I build him construction in my Nord Modular that was present anyway. I went slightly beyond the listed specs he needed, turned all the features I had included off by default yet explained their workings. I could include those as I know his work and how he works, thus predicting what he might feel he needed during his set. That might count as a colaboration, yet it certainly wasn´t limiting while I get the feeling you are implying that situations that end up being colaborations between musicians and programers have a strong component of being limiting. There must be some violin builders that also play that instrument, how many of those wouldn´t like to own a stradivarius? > Would you ever release a > record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or > garageband? I´ve been looking at the PS2 bargain bins considdering exactly this, yes. I´m very interested in how much the tools you use influence your sound. Once I have my own tv again I might, I would only release it if it would be of a certain quality but why not? I wrote a article that deals with these questions in the other direction (being large modular synths) which is available here; http://www.cemstudio.com/vynalogica03.htm and might be of interest if you are asking these things. > > At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something > that's more to with computers than music? That´s a matter of personal perception, how you relate to computers and what exactly "music" is to you. For me it would take a fairly long time for that point to be reached and there is bad music in any genre. > Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between the > tools they use and that of the mainstream media? Perhaps some are, perhaps others are actively trying to change what "mainstream media" consists of. Me, I´ll have some nice music if i can find it and hope to get some feelings of my chest. little else matters to me. > > In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a > consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a > certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, > 303 etc? No, I actively try to veil my sources, computers go through the old analogue effects, analogue sources go through the computer. > > Your opinions are of great value to me with my research as well as my > personal quest to find out what the hell this whole computer music > thing is about, Hope to have been of some help, feel free to quote this mail or the linked article if that would be of use. Yours, Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 16:39:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32487-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96440 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:38:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 96430 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:38:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:38:55 -0500 From: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] small order CD duplication In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.x.x> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx.x.x> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.polarbearltd.com/ I know its been a bit since people where asking for CD manufactures, I thought I'd pass this on anyway. I was down there today picking up lp jackets I had done. they do CD orders of 300, 500 +. they also do silk screened CDRs of as few as you want. They do great work, and can do custom orders as far as packaging, 3" CDs, cut CDs etc. They do international orders, and offer credit for referrals. So tell 'em Chris from (1.8) sent ya! ;-) Ask for Heather. -chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 16:42:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32488-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99775 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:42:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 99765 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:42:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:42:27 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] OT - aphex twin imagery To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >But it's always mask of latex. Chris Cunningham have realized all the >promotional & design supports. >That's just good modeling, paint on latx then, good make-up but it's always >more easy than shooting a lot of model then to shoot the bodydouble and try >to fade one in other in photoshop. not necessarily, it depends on what you think of as "easy". but really, how do you make a latex mask of someone in mid-pucker? even latex masks always have a certain frozen, dead look (like in the videos), this photo of one richard james kissing another does not have that. i can't find an example of those pics online, but anyone who has the CC DVD can see them in the booklet - they're the yellowish ones. the CD cover of "come to daddy" is *clearly* photoshop - it's not even that good a job, and the exact face and angle is repeated multiple times: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003MSH.01.LZZZZZZZ.j pg if you look closely at the windowlicker CD/video cover you can see the difference too. it's very slight, but to someone who works in photoshop the signs are there: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000I8U7.01.LZZZZZZZ.jp g these are not the same latex masks from the videos - those are more cartoonish and distorted. still very good and very funny. that video is hilarious. analog or digital, whatever works! d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 18:04:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32489-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38666 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:04:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 38654 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:04:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:04:03 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] derrida r.i.p. In-reply-to: <BD91D108.100E2%x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: Ian Andrews <x.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9194D3.16E9D%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sacrifice .. such a recurrent theme, yet also part of mastery .. the Xtian/humanist paradigm has always opposed to the two (sacrifice/mastery), ie one sacrifices to the god, to nation, to sovereignty, in order to master nature, territory, people, oneself. Art has something sacrificial to it -- to the future (that one will be understood not now, but after one's death). Our debt to JD sonically -- to repay that infinite debt of this death without return or calculation. To grant him that space of the future (without mastering it or sacrificing to it). The sound of mourning .. but also the _sound of_ "mourning" -- morning. morning recordings: record your morning. to work through mourning. (an idea) tobias > tobias c. van Veenwrote: > >> Given that Derrida had much to say on the subject of death and memorial, >> perhaps those in favour can address these topics. It would show a degree of >> respect of an-other's death. >> > Thinking of the abyssal, the sound of the abyss, music turning back on > itself, iteration, music which appropriates itself, appropriates the proper > of itself, its own property(s). Music as gift without return, profit, > surplus value... sacrifice as opposed to mastery. > > Rockin the foundations. > > ian > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy --- New School Philosophy -------- ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 18:09:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32490-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41442 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:09:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 41432 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:09:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:13:24 -0400 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] oct15 dumbo / addenda update To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello, starting 6pm this friday oct 15, live performance from ian epps l mountains l koutaro fukui autonomousmediazone Dumbo Art Under the Bridge Festival studio at 39 main st DUMBO brooklyn NY radio freeD.U.M.B.O. will broadcast and stream throughout the weekend along with free103point9 and the Ausust Sound Coalition. more information can be found http://www.seasonalbk.net/s3.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - new addenda for the last warm days of october sebastein roux http://www.seasonalbk.net/aoct04.html www.seasonalbk.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 19:41:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32491-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84644 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:41:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 84631 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:41:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:41:48 -0700 From: GrahamWakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] linkage In-reply-to: <p0610050bbd9116d644e0@[192.168.1.2]> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD91818C.C8A%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Can you access the Ars Electronica footage? I'm having no luck On 11/10/04 10:10 pm, "xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > just a few links i've come across recently > (apologies if they've already been mentioned) > > > video footage from the Ars Electronica symposiums > http://www.aec.at/en/festival/programm/webcasts_timeshift.asp > WMV format, downloadable > > > & unrelated: > > http://www.wyhiayg.net > wyhiayg is a web-code-reader. > enter the URL of any website and you will receive > a mp3-encoded reading of its HTML-source-code. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 20:01:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32492-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95473 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:01:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 95463 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:01:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [tech q] transducers/soundbug To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi folks. i'm having a lot of trouble finding any information anywhere about home-made soundbug-like transducers. [soundbug.biz]. my intuition is that it's just a powerful contact-mic-like device, but i guess i don't really know enough about the technology to do a google search that will help me build my own. looking up "piezo speakers" etc. has led me to a bunch of industrial supply companies. i've seen jim schoeneker and jon mueller activate drums with what looked like bare around-the-house speakers, but it was very quiet. i really want to get audible/recognizable sounds out of my guitar, drums, and other miscellany. thanks in advance for any tips! best, jake --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 20:09:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32493-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1863 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:09:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 1852 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:09:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:09:31 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 11, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Michael Wright wrote: > I'm making a bit of a presumption in thinking that everybody on this > list makes music and an even further assumption that the majority use > predominantly audio software. I think that's a pretty fair assumption. > Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce > musically more valuable results than those that require little? It depends on what you consider input. Personally I work algorithmically, and I have no interaction with it while it is running. > Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines > language? I like to work at the highest level that allows me to do what I want. I think this would be the same for just about anyone. If I can't do something then I'll drop down a level or two so that I can. It's a decision that is usually made on a practical basis, not an emotional one. > At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration > between the user and the software programmer? Would you ever release > a record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or > garageband? I believe there are possibly some ethical issues involved with using something like garageband (and its provided loops) to make music. However, the music will undoubtedly be awful anyway, so I do not concern myself with such issues usually. :-) As long as the people doing it are having fun, then I think it is a positive thing. What I believe is a far more interesting question is ownership in regards to sound produced without human interaction, controlled entirely by software. > At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something > that's more to with computers than music? Hopefully never, unless your goal is to produce process art, in which case everything changes. ;-) > In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software > environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and > effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular > tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do > much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). Sure I can use software that comes with granular modules out of the box (like Reaktor). However, you have far less flexibility in how you can take advantage of such capability when everything is prepackaged. While I do agree with you that it is silly to go and make a 303 emulation in Max or Supercollider (unless its a programming excercise), I think the example you gave is poor. It is true that many programmers do not produce music that's worth all that programming time. However, that's an issue that lies with their creative end of things, not the fact that they are making music via programming... there is also much music produced programatically that is simply impossible to produce otherwise. > Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between > the tools they use and that of the mainstream media? I believe this is more of an effect of the desire to experiment rather than a conscious decision. In fact I'd suggest many such artists actually wish their work had more mainstream acceptance. > In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a > consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a > certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, > 303 etc? I believe most people on the list use softwares that are highly programmable, and hence do not have a distinctive sound to be "proud" of. However, I assume many people are proud of the softwares they've written in such environments, as is only natural. There is less of a degree of idiotic techno-gear-fetishism though amongst the computer music community, which is undoubtedly a good thing. That statement may not apply to computer artists such as myself who use Macs. ;-) > Your opinions are of great value to me with my research as well as my > personal quest to find out what the hell this whole computer music > thing is about, You're not going to find out much by asking questions. You have to do it to understand! Yoda this, Yoda that... - John Nowak --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 20:14:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32494-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4504 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:14:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 4493 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:14:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:14:17 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Michael Wright wrote: > I can see the necessity of trying brand new methods of process to try > and exceed what exists and find new sounds in the same way Curtis > Roads does. But a lot experimental electronic musicians still persist > to prove the worthiness of their music with a whole speech about the > process. If the only thing we are dealing with is sound then the > sound should speak for itself. A technical insight is like admitting > the sound doesn't work. Sometimes the art lies in the process rather than the product. I thought we established this a few decades back. ;-) - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 20:16:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32495-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6750 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:16:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 6718 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:16:01 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:15:58 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 11, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Michael Wright wrote: > At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration > between the user and the software programmer? Would you ever release > a record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or > garageband? Actually, I should note that one of my favorite albums by Toecutter was produced using Fruity Loops... its utter trash, but I adore trash music. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 20:22:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32496-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11346 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:21:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 11325 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:21:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:21:52 -0700 From: chthonic <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] audio software environments To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05 EVAL> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> I'm making a bit of a presumption in thinking that everybody on this >> list makes music and an even further assumption that the majority use >> predominantly audio software. > >I think that's a pretty fair assumption. but not necessarily true! i make music but not predominantly with audio software. i chiefly use the computer as an audio processing tool for certain individual sounds, or as an editing tool. most of my music is put together with stand-alone samplers and a mix of analog and digital gear. >> At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration >> between the user and the software programmer? Would you ever release >> a record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or >> garageband? i would not, no. >> At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something >> that's more to with computers than music? not sure, but that point seems to be easier and easier to get to. when you feel like you're living inside the computer, and the inherent sounds of the software are dominating your work more than you are, it's time to take a step back. >> In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software >> environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and >> effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular >> tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do >> much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). i think someone working on that level is able to potentially get more out of a sound or a piece by doing things that way. that helps avoid the situation i mentioned above. >> In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a >> consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a >> certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, >> 303 etc? i can't say proud, but certain plugins are so wonderfully reliable it's a joy to turn to them again and again because i know i'll probably get what i'm after. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 21:39:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32497-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46308 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:39:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 46295 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:39:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:38:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Feedback requested In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx You'd need more than 6 seconds to really get into it. :-) If you really want to know what the "point" of my MFA project is, I can post my write-up, but basically it's about the contexts of digital technology. With this piece, I was thinking of the degradation of the audio signal (glitches, distortion, etc.) as a metaphor for the loss of historical memory. Thanks for listening. Phil > Being on dial up I got about 6 seconds of this > but I like it. What are the points behind this as > your master project? > > Luc Ferrari's field recording > pieces where he erased everything down to the > repetitive actions of everyday has always interested > me, but I've never heard it. Is there a Japanese re-issue > of those albums? > > Peace, > A > > > On Oct 11, 2004, at 8:44 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Just put up a current draft of a piece that will be part of my MFA >> graduating project. I'd like to get your feedback. >> >> It's based on some recordings by Derek Holzer (karosta.edworks.net) which >> were made in Latvia. The sources are an Orthodox Mass in Karosta and some >> ice from the Baltic Sea. >> >> Link is here: >> >> http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/PhilThomson_Karosta.mp3 >> >> Reply offlist if you want. >> >> Phil >> >> >> "mp3's in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." >> Popular Mechanics, 1949 >> >> >> ========= >> Phil Thomson >> home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson >> blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ >> label: http://centibel.org/ >> group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ >> ========= >> >> SDF Public Access UNIX System >> http://www.freeshell.org/ >> Geekier than you since 1987. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> >> > Andrew Jones > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 12 22:41:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32498-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81345 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:41:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 81335 invoked from network); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:41:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:37:41 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Feedback requested In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That's actually really cool. I like this idea. It's kinda deconstructionist too=) Peace, A On Oct 12, 2004, at 5:38 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > > You'd need more than 6 seconds to really get into it. :-) If you > really want to know what the "point" of my MFA project is, I can post > my write-up, but basically it's about the contexts of digital > technology. With this piece, I was thinking of the degradation of the > audio signal (glitches, distortion, etc.) as a metaphor for the loss > of historical memory. > > Thanks for listening. > > Phil > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 08:17:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32501-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21376 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:17:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 21366 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:17:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:01:51 +0300 From: paulo raposo || sirr <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Pushing the Medium To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Lowercase-sound <xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx_xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD923D0F.E264%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Pushing the Medium MoKS Media Art Symposium Pushing the Medium is an international meeting of sound and video artists brought together for a one week symposium in Tartu and Mooste. The event includes a series of Performances, Lectures and Workshops for the artists and the public. It is organized by MoKS, an NGO organization dedicated to local and international cooperation in the fields of arts, social and environmental research in Mooste, Estonia. Friday Oct 15th: Press conference and Artist discussion, Tartu Artist Union Gallery 17:00 Saturday Oct 16th: Concert Evening, Video and Sound performances: Saadama Theater 19:00 - Derek Holzer (US/NL), Sara Kolster (NL), Maxim Shentelev (LV) - Antonio Della Marina (ITA), John Grzinich (US, EST) - Paulo Raposo (PT) Sunday 17th - Thursday 21: Artist Workshops at Tartu Art College / Mooste Guest Studio - Derek Holzer-Sara Kolster: Visible Sound / Audible Image - Paulo Raposo: SIRR-ecords / Audio-Visual Compositional Techniques - Antonio Della Marina: 2 sound based projects Thursday Oct 22: Concert Evening: Tartu Artist Union Gallery 19:00 - audums (Kiril Lomunov, Janis Bikis, Maxim Shentelev, LV) - Alt-Ctrl-Del (Kurt Korthals, US) - Kiwa (EST) Participants DEREK HOLZER (NL/US) is a sound and radio artist with a background in free radio, net.radio and streaming media technologies. Recently, his work has focused on capturing and transforming small, unnoticed sounds from various natural and urban locations [Karosta Project, w/ Sara Kolster], and on the electromagnetic resonances in our everyday environment [OZONE Project, w/ Bas van Koolwijk], as well as the use of free software such as Linux and Pure-Data. http://www.umatic.nl/ SARA KOLSTER (NL) is a video and new-media artist with a background in web / graphical design and webbased-projects. Recently, the focus of her work shifted more towards video and film; capturing details from urban locations, visualizing fragments of stories of these environments. She uses different strategies, from time-based media (video, film) to appropriated research methods belonging to different observational disciplines (journalism, documentary & archeology). http://www.umatic.nl/ PAULO RAPOSO (PT) is a sound and media artist based in Lisbon, Portugal. Despite having studied cinema and philosophy, he has been working in the medium of live electronic and computer sound since the early nineties, performing, exhibiting installation works and recording throughout Europe and the US. He is the founder and director of SIRR records, a label dedicated to new and experimental forms of music. http://www.sirr-ecords.com/ ANTONIO DELLA MARINA (IT) Antonio is from Udine in the Friulian region of Italy. Antonio on õppinud Bologna Ülikoolis muusikat ja näitekunsti (Musical and performing arts). Arvutimuusika vallas on ta suures osas iseõppija, võttes õppust teistelt samal alal tegutsevatelt loojatelt. http://www.fades.net/ JOHN GRZINICH (EST/US) media artist (mostly electronic, sometimes not) and MoKS Media Lab coordinator working with sound for over 10 years and with video for 5. has constructed various permutations of sound and video individually and together in compositions, installations and performances. He has released CDs on a host of independent labels internationally such as CMR (NZ), Elevator Bath (US), Staalplaat (NL), Intransitive (US), Erewhon (BE) and others... http://www.kaon.org/jgrzinich/ KI'WA (EST) situational meta-media artist who expresses himself through painting, sound, video, text, performance and social sculpture. He has been involved with numerous artistic and curatorial projects throughout Estonia and abroad. http://www.looming.org/ ALT-CTRL-DEL (Kurt Korthals, US) Kurt recently received a degree in computer science yet he has released several full length works as an electronic musician under the name 'The Buddy System'. Alt-Ctrl-Del is a side project for exploring abstract electronic soundscapes that range from ambient to edgy. Kurt often accompanies his sounds with original video work. http://notenuf.net/ AUDUMS (Kiril Lomunov, Janis Bikis, Maxim Shentelev) MAKSIM SHENTELEV (LV) is a multimedia artist from Latvia who works in field recording under name my-ym. Activity of my-ym is focused on perceptional nuances of informative environment. Field recording, collage and musique concrete are the main genres. Scope borders are set for research of audio visual sensual field, especially for analysis of phantasmal dimensional structures. He is also the cofounder of AUDIOT, a Riga based net label that develops and publishes the sharpest audio design from Latvia and neighbouring countries. http://www.audiot.lv/ KIRIL LOMUNOV (LV) is a Riga based sound designer who has worked with the duo OLOOLO and the ambient music project ³ssvaa-faa². In 1997 the project ³Ayahuasca ³ was founded on a conception thatwent far beyond habitual borders of ambient music. From 1997 2000 he worked on sound design collaborations with Ugis Vitinsh, Android, Denis Verushkin. In 2004 collaborating with Maksim Shentelev (my-ym) and Janis Bikis (mutal) formed trio project ³audums² . Kiril is also the cofounder of AUDIOT, a Riga based net label that develops and publishes the sharpest audio design from Latvia and neighbouring countries. http://www.audiot.lv/ Janis Bikis (LV) started his video designing activity with shortcut ³Dimensions² 12 min. 2001. From 2001 to 2004 works as one of the organizers of youth multimedia festival ³2annas². In 2002 shortcut ³Get woozy!² came to light. 2003 - shortcut ³Photo session². In that period collaborates as a vj with local club scena dj¹s. Participates in festivals, club events and performances. In past couple of years artist focused on experimental merging of analog video and digital processing. From 2003 works together with ambient, electro acoustic and field recording sound designers Maksim Sentelev and Kiryll Lomunov in trio project ³audums². ________________________________________________________ ||| xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx ----------------- |||||| ||| ----------------- |||||| ||| http://www.sirr-ecords.com ----------------- -| ||| ||| http://www.sirr-ecords.com/pauloraposo ------ -- ||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 00:50:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32499-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:50:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21312 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:50:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 21302 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:50:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:50:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] [politics] Bush coached by WiFi in recent debate? X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/12/bush_wireless_coaching/ If anyone can make it to the next debate with a WiFi receiver and some recording gear, see if you can intercept anything! Phil "War criminals in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." Popular Mechanics, 1949 ========= Phil Thomson home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ label: http://centibel.org/ group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ========= SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 03:33:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32500-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61154 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 03:33:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 61142 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 03:33:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:33:08 -0400 From: koen <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] dumbo arts festival | ian epps | mountains | koutaro fukui | fri oct 15 In-reply-to: <005601c4b088$f17bf4d0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD921A33.97F%xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_zXvYAVlIcFz4YjUnnfm+aw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_zXvYAVlIcFz4YjUnnfm+aw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello everyone, Below you will find information on an upcoming performance. I hope to see you all, but if you can't make it... please pass it on to anyone you think might be interested. best, Ian starting 6pm this friday oct 15, live performance from ian epps | mountains | koutaro fukui autonomousmediazone Dumbo Art Under the Bridge Festival studio at 39 main st DUMBO brooklyn NY radio freeD.U.M.B.O. will broadcast and stream throughout the weekend along with free103point9 and the August Sound Coalition. more information can be found http://www.seasonalbk.net/s3.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::: new addenda for the last warm days of october sebastein roux http://www.seasonalbk.net/aoct04.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::: photographs from the september phonography concerts and a review from a local Troy Ny paper are posted. http://www.seasonalbk.net/s3.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::: www.seasonalbk.net --Boundary_(ID_zXvYAVlIcFz4YjUnnfm+aw)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 08:33:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32502-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25462 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:33:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 25452 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:33:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:37:30 -0400 From: Ben <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] Bush coached by WiFi in recent debate? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rW/167057RnjhwoXc7tb+Q)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - secure.wehostusa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seasonalbk.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_rW/167057RnjhwoXc7tb+Q) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit beautiful you might enjoy this : George W. Bush, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, Missouri, Oct. 8, 2004 "Uhh -- I hear there's rumors on the, uhh, Internets that we're gonna have a -- draft. We're not going to have a draft. Period." Apparently there are multiple Internets. Here's your chance to get one of the new Internets. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7106864547 On Oct 12, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/12/bush_wireless_coaching/ > > If anyone can make it to the next debate with a WiFi receiver and some > recording gear, see if you can intercept anything! > > Phil > > > "War criminals in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." > Popular Mechanics, 1949 > > > ========= > Phil Thomson > home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > blog: http://pthomson.blogspot.com/ > label: http://centibel.org/ > group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ========= > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > www.seasonalbk.net --Boundary_(ID_rW/167057RnjhwoXc7tb+Q)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 08:57:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32503-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30569 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:57:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 30559 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:57:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:53:20 +0200 From: John Hopkins <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] neoscenes strreaming again X-Sender: john.hopkins%xxxxxxxx.xx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <a06100508bd929d76deab@[129.241.35.109]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ************************************************************** neoscenes will flow in elektro-waves onto the network as part of the (no)music Arena project ====> (no)music Arena http://www.nomusic.org 1400-1500 CET Paris (GMT+2) Wed October 13 2004 1200-1300 GMT (London) 6:00-7:00 AM MST (Denver) 22:00-23:00 (GMT+10) Sydney Direct links to the stream may be found on the front page of http://neoscenes.net/index.html and at http://www.nomusic.org/ Questions? xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx neoscenes occupation, a project first deployed publicly at Ars Electronica 1998, is a mobile and tech-no-madic vessel for creative activities in network spaces. The present performance will be originating from the neoscenes TAZ in the Art Academy of Trondheim, Norway, in cooperation with TEKS - the Trondheim Electronic Art Center & the TMM2004 Festival http://www.teks.no/tmm2004/start.html ************************************************************* -------- begin of nomusic official press release ---------------- ( ( ( N O M U S I C ) ) ) http://www.nomusic.org - xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx -< 40 Players on Dual Live Drawn Lots >- -< 24h Continuous World Trans Audio Distant Travel >- -< Dual Live Simultaneous only via Network >- -< Creative Commons License - No Archivz - Free Audio >- -< Stream Live Audio MP3 / Low & High >- You are Welcome to Listen the Next Edition of the : (((NOMUSIC))) Arena Wednesday 13th to Thursday 14th October, 2004 lasting 24 hours forming a Terrestrial Revolution completes "online" without Interruption. *PLAYLIST : Please use the Converter on the page below to adjust your Timezone http://www.nomusic.org/ > PLAYLIST *PLAYTIME : 13th October 2004 (00h00 / 00:00am) [GMT 0:00 - Greenwich Time] END : 14th October 2004 (00h00 / 00:00am) [GMT 0:00 - Greenwich Time] Enjoy your Flight with Us... 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THE DEAD TEXAN Track: The Six Million Dollar Sandwich Album: The Dead Texan Label: Kranky Abrimos el programa de esta semana desde las oficinas del sello Kranky en Chicago, con un nuevo proyecto a cargo de Adam Wiltzie de Stars of the Lid, The Dead Texan, muy influenciado por una sensibilidad típicamente europea tras varios años viviendo en Bruselas. El disco incluye varias pistas de video junto a la videoartista Christina Vantzos, además de once sonatas surrealistas We open the program for this week from the Kranky label offices in Chicago, with a new project by Adam Wiltzie of Stars of the Lid: The Dead Texan, very influenced by a typically European sensibility after several years living in Brussels. The record includes eleven surrealist sonatas and several video hints with videoartist Christina Vantzos 02. KEITH FULLERTON WHITMAN Track: Bewusstseinserweiternd Tonaufnahme (Einter & Zweiter Teile) Album: Schöner Flußengel Label: Kranky Continuamos en el sello Kranky , que acaba de editar una tirada limitada de mil copias sólo en vinilo del nuevo disco de Keith Fullerton Whitman, "Schöner Flußengel", una especie de proyecto paralelo del autor, para el que ha ido recopilando material, el más oscuro que ha compuesto en los últimos meses desde los laboratorios de sonido de la universidad de Harvard The Kranky label has just released a limited edition of 1000 vinyl copies of the new cd by Keith Fullerton Whitman, "Schöner Flußengel", a kind of parallel project of the author, for which has gathered some material, the darkest he has composed in the last months from the sound laboratories of the University of Harvard 03. GROWING Track: Anaheim II Album: The Soul of the Rainbow and the Harmony of Light Label: Kranky Formación de la costa oeste norteamericana, con Joe Denardo y Kevin Doria en las guitarras y al bajo, explorando el feedback y los ruidos de estática en un contexto musical fresco y rico en texturas granuladas y preciosistas. Growing han titulado su último trabajo "The Soul of the Rainbow and the Harmony of Light", nombre tomado de un ensayo sobre las relaciones entre sonido y color, escrito por Bainbridge Bishop en el siglo XIX, años después de inventar el órgano de color Set from the North American west coast, with Joe Denardo and Dorian Kevin on guitars and bass, exploring feedback and static noise in a fresh musical context rich in granulated textures. Growing have titled their last work "The Soul of the Rainbow and the Harmony of Light", name taken from an essay on the relationships between sound and color, written by Bainbridge Bishop in the XIX century, some years after inventing the color organ 04. DUNCAN AVOID Track: Rue De La Fee Verte Album: Metaphysics Label: Hive Continuamos en los Estados Unidos aunque ahora nos trasladamos a Texas, a la sede del sello Hive Records, desde donde nos llega la música de un dúo llamado Duncan Avoid, que trabaja en un dark ambient ruidoso de factura industrial. Aunque la formación proviene de Bélgica, su debut oficial llega a través de una compañía norteamericana We continue in the United States but now we move to Texas, to the Hive Records' headquarters, from where we got the music of a duet called Duncan Avoid, that work in a dark noisy ambient of industrial invoice. Although the formation comes from Belgium, their official debut come from a North American company 05. ALFREDO COSTA MONTEIRO Track: 2 Album: Rumeur ((for solo accordion) Label: Creative Sources El compositor portugués afincado en Barcelona Alfredo Costa Monteiro continúa a sus 40 años investigando en los timbres producidos por instrumentos poco convencionales en la música experimental como el acordeón. Hace aproximadamente un mes te presentábamos su trabajo junto a Ruth Barberán y Ferrán Fagés, Atolón; Costa Monteiro explora ahora el concepto de secuencia tímbrica en este disco para el sello portugués Creative Sources, que ha titulado propiamente "Rumeur" por la semejanza con que se propagan los sonidos The Portuguese composer residing in Barcelona Alfredo Costa Monteiro continues investigating in the timbres produced by instruments not very conventional in experimental music, as is the accordion. Approximately one month ago we presented you his work with Ruth Barberán and Ferrán Fagés, Atolon; Costa Monteiro explores now the concept of timbric sequence in this new album for the Portuguese label Creative Sources, titled properly "Rumeur" for the similarity with which the sounds spread around 06. EXIAS-J Track: Palestine Album: Balance of Chaos Label: PSF Este es el segundo trabajo en el sello PSF de Exias-J, abreviatura de la Asociación de Improvisadores Experimentales de Japón, entre cuyos miembros encontramos al guitarrista e ideólogo Hideaki Kondo. Balance of Chaos documenta una actuación en directo durante su visita a Nueva York el año pasado, en la que utilizan muchos discursos de vanguardia, desde el free jazz a la electroacústica, rompiendo con la jerarquía de la instrumentación tradicional This is the second work in the PSF label of Exias-J, abbreviation for the Association of Experimental Improvisers of Japan, among whose members is the guitarrist and ideologist Hideaki Kondo. Balance of Chaos documents a live performance during their visit to New York last year, in which they use many different radical avant-garde speeches, from free jazz to electroacoustics, breaking up with the traditional instrumentation hierarchy 07. TIM HECKER Track: Balkanice You Album: Mirages Label: Alien 8 Recordings Esperado regreso del canadiense Tim Hecker, tras el éxito de crítica y público obtenidos por sus anteriores trabajos, tanto por los dos primeros en el sello de Montreal Alien 8, al que regresa, como por Radio Amor, su definitiva apuesta en el sello Mille Plateaux que lo llevó a las estanterías de muchas habitaciones de amantes de la música electrónica de todas partes del mundo Awaited return of the Canadian Tim Hecker, after the critic and public success obtained by his previous works, so much for the first two in Montreal label Alien 8, to which returns, as for Radio Amor, his definitive proposal in the Mille Plateaux imprint, that took him to the room shelves of electronic music fans all over the world 08. STAFRAEN HAKON Track: Rafmang Album: Ventill / Poki Label: Resonant La música del islandés Stafraen Hakon, que presenta por fin su nuevo material tras dos reediciones en el sello Resonant de sus primeros trabajos. Escuchamos uno de los 10 cortes que componen "Ventill / Poki", un disco grabado en el Reino Unido junto a su compañero de sello Dialect, con quien prepara un nuevo trabajo de colaboración mutua en la instrumentación de las composiciones de cada uno después de su gira conjunta The music of the Icelandic Stafraen Hakon that finally presents his new material after two reissues of his first works in the Resonant label. This is one of the 10 tracks that compose "Ventill/Poki", recorded in the United Kingdom together with his label partner Dialect, with whom he prepares a new work of mutual collaboration in the instrumentation of the compositions of each one after their tour 09. COCK E.S.P. and PANICSVILLE Track: I Can't Get Her Off My Cock Album: Last Train To Cocksville Label: Little Mafia Volvemos a los Estados Unidos para escuchar este corte que nos ha gustado mucho; procede de una colaboración entre dos bandas de noise del medio-oeste norteamericano, propuestas a revisar la música de los Monkees con este feroz homenaje. Se trata de Cock ESP y Panicsville, que presentan este "Last Train to Cockville" en el sello Little Mafia We return to the United States to listen to this track we liked a lot; it comes from a collaboration between two noise bands from the North American Midwest, disposed to revise the music of the Monkees with this ferocious homage 10. WORK/DEATH Track: Head Injury Support Group-Obliterated by Cross Hatching Album: V/A Showtunes of The Condemned CD Two Label: Hospital Productions El sello de Nueva York Hospital Productions presenta una nueva compilación de electrónica oscura desde diversas perspectivas pero similares horizontes: "Showtunes of the Condemned" incluye unos 15 minutos de música a cargo de seis proyectos diferentes, entre los cuales hemos elegido este -del que no tenemos referencias: Work/Death New York's Hospital Productions presents a new compilation of dark electronics from diverse perspectives but similar horizons: "Showtunes of the Condemned" includes about 15 minutes of music by six different projects, among which we have chosen this -of which we have no references: Work/Death ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. 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Wed Oct 13 11:02:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32505-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70577 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:02:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 70567 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:02:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:01:39 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] audio software environments X-Originating-IP: [194.82.116.4] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2004 11:02:02.0206 (UTC) FILETIME=[115E1FE0:01C4B114] Michael Wright: >In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a consequence >of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a certain softwares >sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, 303 etc? Denis Smalley's attitude articulated in his concept of 'technological listening' may be relevant-- "The composer, or other listeners conversant with technology and techniques, cannot easily brush aside a particular listening mode which I call technological listening... Many methods and devices easily impose their own spectromorphological character and clichés on the music. Ideally the technology should be transparent, or at least, the music needs to be composed in such a way that the qualities of its invention override any tendency to listen primarily in a technological manner." DS, in 'Spectromorphology: Explaining Sound-shapes' This is the attitude of most (but not all) sonic artists (acousmatic composers/'computer music' people) I know- if the listeners hear the technology, they'll be distracted from the sound. I don't mean this in a normative or prescriptive way- there are certainly aesthetic agendas that may be well served by exposing the technology used in creation- but the question asked 'what the hell this whole computer music thing is about'. >At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration >between the user and the software programmer? Using programs or algorithms is not unique to computer music. Composers like Xenakis or Babbitt have used rules or algorithms developed by others to generate some of the dots on the pages of their scores, but I wouldn't credit, say, Evariste Galois as a co-composer of Xenakis' Nomos Alpha just because Galois laid some of the foundation of group theory. In the same way, I usually wouldn't consider the software programmer a co-composer of works made with his or her software, unless that software were so restrictive that it essentially determined its own output, regardless of input. Then one could argue that the software was like a score in instrumental music, with the input generating a different 'performance', but how much software could legitimately be described this way? Concerning the 'sound' of a program, I think someone else pointed out that, after all, a violin has its own sound as well. >Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce >musically more valuable results than those that require little? Depends on the user! >Do you not find that you tend to change your way of thinking about a piece >after hearing the composers technical rundown on how it was created? It's not the first thing I'd be concerned with on hearing a piece. It can create context- I'm more willing to forgive sound quality deficiencies in a Schaeffer piece than I am in something made today, for example. >Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines language? Not so concerned about either- favour quality of result over both. Hope this is useful in some way, Ian _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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You have to do it to understand! Yoda this, Yoda that... Finally someone said it....while I think asking questions can be a very positive and productive way of working through things to get to other things, many of these issues of context, listening, and working methods really exist at a purely experiential level. As someone who has played guitars, basses, drums, keyboards and worked in various recording and performance situations for many, many years, I often find my self focussing on certain technical aspects of recordings and performances, but this is just one level of my experience and analysis of music and art, context can be a factor that informs and draws one deeper in to a piece of work or even a "scene" (so often cultivated and even manufactured by journalists and critics) but there is much more to it than that. Culture functions much like democracy, in a very unpredictable way, where the meanings of certain gestures take on a life and autonomy of their own regardless of the intent of the producers of that gesture. The intent may be to highlight or elucidate or explore a process, but the result may be a response that has more to do with the romantic notion of "the sublime"-----I use this as a for instance because it seems to happen a lot with computer music and contemporary art music. How often does it happen that process music takes on the onus of "the beautiful" while pop music made with computers get analyzed in terms of its technical processes? I'm not just talking about dub and hip-hop on the one hand and Autechre on the other.........the process is bigger than one piece of music, or one generation of listeners, whether we know it or not, we are working through certain human, experiential and conceptual issues......where the train goes noone really knows..... > > On Oct 11, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Michael Wright wrote: > > > I'm making a bit of a presumption in thinking that everybody on this > > list makes music and an even further assumption that the majority use > > predominantly audio software. > > I think that's a pretty fair assumption. > > > Does audio software that requires high levels of user input produce > > musically more valuable results than those that require little? > > It depends on what you consider input. Personally I work > algorithmically, and I have no interaction with it while it is running. > > > Do you favour speed of result over being closer to the machines > > language? > > I like to work at the highest level that allows me to do what I want. I > think this would be the same for just about anyone. If I can't do > something then I'll drop down a level or two so that I can. It's a > decision that is usually made on a practical basis, not an emotional > one. > > > At what point does ownership stop and become more of a collaboration > > between the user and the software programmer? Would you ever release > > a record that was created using e-jay, playstation music 2000 or > > garageband? > > I believe there are possibly some ethical issues involved with using > something like garageband (and its provided loops) to make music. > However, the music will undoubtedly be awful anyway, so I do not > concern myself with such issues usually. :-) As long as the people > doing it are having fun, then I think it is a positive thing. What I > believe is a far more interesting question is ownership in regards to > sound produced without human interaction, controlled entirely by > software. > > > At the other end of the scale, when does it start to become something > > that's more to with computers than music? > > Hopefully never, unless your goal is to produce process art, in which > case everything changes. ;-) > > > In my opinion many computer musicians that program their own software > > environments seem to produce music that doesn't justify the time and > > effort it takes to create such programs (i.e. why create a granular > > tool in msp when run of the mill audio software or freeware can do > > much the same only better sounding and in far less time?). > > Sure I can use software that comes with granular modules out of the box > (like Reaktor). However, you have far less flexibility in how you can > take advantage of such capability when everything is prepackaged. While > I do agree with you that it is silly to go and make a 303 emulation in > Max or Supercollider (unless its a programming excercise), I think the > example you gave is poor. It is true that many programmers do not > produce music that's worth all that programming time. However, that's > an issue that lies with their creative end of things, not the fact that > they are making music via programming... there is also much music > produced programatically that is simply impossible to produce > otherwise. > > > Do you think computer musicians are trying to widen the gap between > > the tools they use and that of the mainstream media? > > I believe this is more of an effect of the desire to experiment rather > than a conscious decision. In fact I'd suggest many such artists > actually wish their work had more mainstream acceptance. > > > In general i'd like to find out how much of peoples music is a > > consequence of the software they use? Are any of you proud to have a > > certain softwares sound in the same way people are proud to use a 909, > > 303 etc? > > I believe most people on the list use softwares that are highly > programmable, and hence do not have a distinctive sound to be "proud" > of. However, I assume many people are proud of the softwares they've > written in such environments, as is only natural. There is less of a > degree of idiotic techno-gear-fetishism though amongst the computer > music community, which is undoubtedly a good thing. That statement may > not apply to computer artists such as myself who use Macs. ;-) > > > Your opinions are of great value to me with my research as well as my > > personal quest to find out what the hell this whole computer music > > thing is about, > > You're not going to find out much by asking questions. You have to do > it to understand! 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You have to do it to understand! Yoda this, Yoda that... Finally someone said it....while I think asking questions can be a very positive and productive way of working through things to get to other things, many of these issues of context, listening, and working methods really exist at a purely experiential level. As someone who has played guitars, basses, drums, keyboards and worked in various recording and performance situations for many, many years, I often find my self focussing on certain technical aspects of recordings and performances, but this is just one level of my experience and analysis of music and art, context can be a factor that informs and draws one deeper in to a piece of work or even a "scene" (so often cultivated and even manufactured by journalists and critics) but there is much more to it than that. Culture functions much like democracy, in a very unpredictable way, where the meanings of certain gestures take on a life and autonomy of their own regardless of the intent of the producers of that gesture. ! The intent may be to highlight or elucidate or explore a process, but the result may be a response that has more to do with the romantic notion of "the sublime"-----I use this as a for instance because it seems to happen a lot with computer music and contemporary art music. How often does it happen that process music takes on the onus of "the beautiful" while pop music made with computers get analyzed in terms of its technical processes? I'm not just talking about dub and hip-hop on the one hand and Autechre on the other.........the process is bigger than one piece of music, or one generation of listeners, whether we know it or not, we are working through certain human, experiential and conceptual issues......where the train goes noone really knows..... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 13:23:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32508-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98691 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:23:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 98681 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:23:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:23:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] IV Santiago Electroacustic Music International Festival To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_xUmebiLHmpq7TmBu9a6jvQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_xUmebiLHmpq7TmBu9a6jvQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit IV Festival Internacional de Música Electroacústica de Santiago Del 13 al 18 de octubre, Centro Cultural de España. IV Santiago Electroacustic Music International Festival Between Wednesday 13 and Mondays 18 of October the fourth Festival of Musica Electroacústica of Santiago will be carried out, "Ai-maako 2004", one of the most important events of this type of music at Latin American level. They will be 12 concerts, in addition to conferences and factories, and everything absolutely free. The place will be the Cultural Center of Spain (Av. Providence 927). This Festival is annually organized by the Electroacústica Community of Chile (CECH) and the Center of Music and Technology of the School of Music of the SCD (CMT - SCHOOL SCD), and in this fourth version is counted on the support of the Cultural Center of Spain, Radio Beethoven and FONDART 2004. More INFO: http://www.beethovenfm.cl/programacion/programas/SigloXX/1.act Saludos desde Chile, Mika Martini ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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Wed Oct 13 15:39:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32509-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40174 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:39:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 40145 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:39:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:38:10 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for October 6, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/10/06 > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > Joe Mcphee > For Bill Dixon 1 > The October Revolution > Evidence > > > > Rob Brown Quartet > trio Unsprung > The Big Picture > Terrones > > > > Kent Carter String Trio > Dance Music Image Suite > The Willisau Suites > Emanem > > > > Sawtooth > Space Freight > Celluloid dreams > Incidental > > > > Mirobolus > Triptych > Mirobolus String Trio > independent > > > > Smash and Teeny > Lacemaker's Ruin > Gathering > Spool > > > > Relay Signals > Don't Get Arrested > Relay Signals > Lucky Kitchen > > > > Janek Schaefer > Room 2 > Cold Storage > DSP Recordings > > > > Marcus Schmickler > Param part 3 > Param > A Musik > > > > Joe Mcphee > The Persistence of Rosewood > Sweet freedom-Now What > Hathut > > > > Carlos Zingaro > Outsiders > Exploratory Music From Portugal > Wire Magazine > > > > Kim Cascone/Merbow > 7phases > Rondo 7phases Blowback > Sub Rosa > > > > WAL > The Cereal Box Conspiracy > Law and Disorder > Unit > > > > Norbert Moslang > c12 > lat_nc_ > For4Ears Records > > > > Dave Dyment/Lee Ranaldo > Fire 3 > New Life After fire > Art Met > > > > TwinsClimax > Golden > Imperial Household Orchestra > Highly Bred and Sweetly Tempered > Northeastindie > > > > Alvin Curran/Domenico Sciajno > Rue de la Gare 76 > Our Ur > Rossbin > Productions > > > > Derek Bailey/John Stevens > Reflectors > Haunted Weather > Staubgold > > > > ICP Orchestra > Ever Never > Aan & Uit > Icp > > > > Wendy Atkinson > Somehow Dissolves > trim > Smarten Up.. > > > > Wendy Atkinson > Sly/Bounce > trim > Smarten Up.. > > > > Nilsson/Sandell Duo > Bows and Loops > Strings and Objects > LJ Records > > > > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 16:11:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32510-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52489 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:11:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 52478 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:11:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:08:11 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] Bush coached by WiFi in recent debate? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 4:37 AM -0400 10/13/04, Ben wrote: >Apparently there are multiple Internets. Here's your chance to get >one of the new Internets. There are in fact many internets, but only one Internet. Any network of computers is an internet, and the networking of these into one big network was originally dubbed the Internet (capitalized) to make the distinction. A few years ago someone coined the term "intranet" to refer to those local networks. FYI. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 16:20:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32511-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55227 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:20:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 55217 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:20:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:19:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Hughes <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] Bush coached by WiFi in recentdebate? In-reply-to: <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > There are in fact many internets, but only one Internet. Any network > of computers is an internet, and the networking of these into one big > network was originally dubbed the Internet (capitalized) to make the > distinction. A few years ago someone coined the term "intranet" to > refer to those local networks. I may be wrong, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone these days who refers to anything other than the Internet (capital I) as an/the internet (lowercase i). I would think that LAN and WAN would be the terms of choice. Personally, I'm hoping for these two things to happen: 1. The president refers to the internet as "The World Wide Interweb" 2. Someone to come up with a better name than "intranet." I love how everyone (myself included) is forced to pronounce it inTRAnet to make it clear that they aren't talking about the inTERnet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 17:44:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32512-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87781 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:44:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 87763 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:44:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:44:05 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] eno et al To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.abstractdynamics.org/archives/2004/10/08/the_eno_complex.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 18:06:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32513-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98867 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:06:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 98854 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:06:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:06:35 +0100 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Hi[gh]BroW To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD932D3B.238B%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sonic Arts Network announces Hi[gh]BroW An International Tape Music Composition Competition As part of it¹s extensive and acclaimed commissioning policy Sonic Arts Network is once again flying the flag for that much maligned and slighted phenomenon the international tape music composition competition. Hi[gh]BroW seeks original works of quality and genius. Certain rigorous conditions must be met for works to be considered to be of suitable quality, depth and humanity to be considered for the grand prize: Duration: no longer than 10 seconds Text: All works must use the set text ³Big Ears from Sonic Arts Network². Any other material included is at the composer¹s discretion. The winning work will be extensively broadcast during Sonic Arts Network¹s prestigious Big Ears show on Resonance FM (5.00 6.30 Monday nights,104.4, FM web streaming at www.resonancefm.com <http://www.resonancefm.com/> ) In addition the triumphant composer will be honoured in a live telephone ceremony held during the show. A generous prize of 10 British pounds will also be awarded to the victorious artist. Works must be emailed in mp3 format to xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx with the name, address and contact phone number of the composer included. The subject title should read Hi[gh]BroW. The deadline for submissions is the 6 December 2004 with the announcement of the jury decision being made live on air on the 13 December during the Big Ears show. The best entries will be made available on a ³no expense spared² burn to order CDRŠ Šmaybe We eagerly anticipate your artistic responses. The Sonic Arts Network Team --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 19:16:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32514-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27761 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:16:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 27668 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:16:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:16:22 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hotline server To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx OK so now that the server is working again, I have an OSX friendly client I can admin from and I have some time between now and Monday (when I leave for my workshops in EU) I can now assign Hotline passwords to .microsound members...email me OFF LIST! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 20:34:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32515-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77432 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:34:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 77422 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:34:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:34:07 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] workshop in Gent To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LyJ9vjH71IxqP4td2iwEyw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_LyJ9vjH71IxqP4td2iwEyw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dinsdag 02 / 11 â–º donderdag 04 / 11 EMERGENT CONTENT CREATION USING SIMPLE GENETIC ALGORITHMS by Kim Cascone Kim Cascone has already established a firm reputation in the world of electronica: highly respected composer who among others worked with artists such as Merzbow and Scanner, founder of two important labels, Silent Records and Anechoic, sound designer for David Lynch’s ‘Twin Peaks’ and ‘Wild At Heart’, … Cascone is fascinated by algorithmic structures that inherently create random accidents during the music production (small sound fragments are being recycled and restructured at random creating new sounds). The concept grew from John Maeda’s ‘Human Powered Computer Experiment’. In this experiment, Maeda recreates the internal operations of a simple computer, through people who physically transmit hand-written instructions and data from and to the CPU, RAM, FPU. In the same vein, this workshop will develop a group workflow, based on a simple genetic algorithm, resulting in an emergent work of musical/sonic art. www.imrf.or.jp/HPCE.html Place: Brugzaal Start: 10.00 a.m. Entry level: Experienced in music software and working in a network environment Necessities: Headphones, laptop + network card and music software online registration: http://www.bazuco.be/mercato/form.htm --Boundary_(ID_LyJ9vjH71IxqP4td2iwEyw)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 13 23:05:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32516-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52688 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:04:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 52678 invoked from network); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:04:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:10:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] a little a-NAW-ing teaser To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yes the long wait is finally over 2 years in the making a new NAW cd will be offically out Nov 16th 2004 and for any of you monteralers on this list... a noise factory records showcase and cd release party for the new NAW cd on nov 6th 2004 at the casa del popolo and get this its compeatly FREE.... info here: http://skylinemontreal.com/avm/nawnov6.jpg more info to follow in the next few days... along with a european and candian tour dates announcement for late oct through to late nov 2004. thanks for having big ears... ============================== neil wiernik aka naw xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx www.phoniq.net www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pieheadrecords.com www.worthyrecords.com www.complot.ca www.clevermusic.net ============================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 00:32:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32517-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89232 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:32:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 89219 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:32:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:33:37 -0500 From: David Goth <xxxx@xx.xx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] [ot] [politics] Bush coached by WiFi in recent debate? In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xx-xxxx-xx.xxx-xx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcSwvriQk31A10VxT4K1YOG7IvmaNgAxhUWA Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/12/bush_wireless_coaching/ > > If anyone can make it to the next debate with a WiFi receiver > and some recording gear, see if you can intercept anything! Er, I love the quality of the reporting here. WiFi? (Or should I blame the editor, really?) Uhm, the technology here is just radio waves. No wifi is necessary, and my guess it would not be desired. Way to "geek up" the story by putting unrelated tech terms in the title. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 10:13:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32518-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30145 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:13:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 30135 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:13:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:13:13 +0100 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] The Agents of Impurity this Sunday To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD940FC9.23A5%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sonic Arts Network invites you to The Agents of Impurity - a Night of Sound, Poetry and Sound Poetry. A Resonance FM benefit event. A totally free event. An extraordinary event. Performers Tonight SAN is honoured to present an exclusive presentation of work by Henri Chopin and offers a rare opportunity to be in the company of the artist, now in his 82nd year. The event features a historic piece by the composer from 1971 followed by a recent 2003 composition. Chopin has been a tireless explorer of the grain of the voice since the 1950¹s and his work opens new ways of listening beyond the separation between music and language. We also present an exclusive performance from Kenneth Goldsmith, mastermind of the epochal ubu.com and curator of our new cd publication The Agents of Impurity. Goldsmith¹s writing has been described as the most ³exhaustive and beautiful collage work yet produced in poetry² by Publishers Weekly. Sue Tompkins, another of our special guests, presents More Cola Wars, performance poetry that moves from the page to the voice, from speech to song, from song to signal, from signal to pure sound. A process of writing and a process of thought revealed in poetic performance. Also performing, Caroline Bergvall whose sound poetry represents the disintegration of speech in spoken performance and a meeting point between various languages; physical and verbal, French and English, live voice and ventriloquised technology. Bergvall will present a complete performance of About Face, a project that uses the live, oral performance of a written text to explore speech residues, spittles, hesitations and micro-particles of sense. The evening is rounded off by the London debut of Birmingham¹s Frank Cougar, inhabitant of a surreal and enigmatic world between music and the spoken word, cabaret and a half remembered Raymond Chandler novel, darkness and the void. Soundscape ambience during the evening will be provided by John Levack Drever who will present a mix of Dartmoor cattle grids, fox hunting and vintage field recordings from the 1930s. CD Launch SAN will also be officially launching The Agents of Impurity CD publication pack this evening. The CD, curated by Kenneth Goldsmith, traces a history of sound and concrete poetry from the justified and ancient to recent and morally reprehensible. It features a wealth of mind-expanding material including audio and visual work from Artaud, Beckett, Eduardo Paolozzi, Vito Acconci, Jaap Blonk, Ergo Phizmiz, Sue Tompkins and Caroline Bergvall. The CD publication represents a third of our set of tri-annual releases. Buy it at the event at a special launch price of £12 or, for greater value for your hard earned cash, become a member of Sonic Arts Network and receive three curated CDs over the next 12 months. We urge you to act on this information. FUNdraising! We will be supporting Resonance FM at the event with a pass-the-hat whip round later in the night and a ³guess the weight of the cake² competition because, of course, we love cake! So prepare to dig deep for the benefit of the only sane reason to own a radio Resonance FM! Venue Sunday 17 October. 7.30 The Museum of Garden History Lambeth Palace Road London SE17 7LB Tube: Lambeth North, Westminster We hope to see you there The Sonic Arts Network Team --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 13:20:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32519-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86904 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:20:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 86894 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:20:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:19:04 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Scarcelight Update X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2004 13:20:02.0503 (UTC) FILETIME=[8338ED70:01C4B1F0] New Website: http://scarcelight.org It has been a long time since any e-mailout things appear quiet here at Scarcelight, but they are not. We have been busy behind the scenes, preparing for a slew of new releases. OUT NOW: (SLR24) VARIOUS - 2003: mp3, cdr archive. data CDR A unique collection of over 4 hours of music on one simple format. Collects every mp3 and cdr released on Scarcelight during 2003. This is not an audio CD, rather it features all the releases listed below encoded as 192 kbit/s mp3's SLR20 - Spraggadat & Pirre. Ending SLR18 - Living Ornaments. Klonten ep SLR16 - Mikroknytes. Live @ Sonic Circuits, 2003 SLR15 - EBSK. Secret Highways / Wobbly SLR14 - Omnid. That Was Now This Is Then SLR13 - Vrm. Fell SLR12 - Accelera Deck. Lullexo SLR11 - Accelera Deck. Lulluxa SLR09 - Kugel. Self Label SLR08 - Spraggadat & Pirre. Elsewhere & Otherwise ep SLR07 - Slinger. (16:41:26) SLR06 - Anderegg. 90,000 SLR02 - Hearse. Dead On Audio STILL AVAILABLE: (SLR19) Evol - Punani Shell CD (SLR21) Birchville Cat Motel - With Maples Ablaze CD (SLR33) Accelera Deck - Sunstrings ep CD FORTHCOMING: (SLR27) Psychon. Apocalypse has been dubbed the weekend pill. CD, co-release with Narrominded (nl) Psychon Troopers were founded in 1999 when Jantijn Prins, Coen Polack and Lars Meijer decided to join forces. All three previously recorded their own music, but wanted to combine their different musical opinions. They started out using Miles Davis idea of cutting up improvised music using the cut 'n' paste technique of mini-disc. The definitive edits are used as a basis for semi-improvised live performances. Psychon Troopers are experimenting with ways of merging acoustic and electronic concepts. and coming later: (SLR22) Chuck Bettis - Sonic Sigils 3"CD (LLL23) Skulllike - S/T (format TBA) (SLR25) Black Boned Angel - title TBA CD (SLR26) Later Days - Songs of the Watchmaker CD (SLR28) Lipistal - title TBA 3"CDR LIVE SHOWS: Accelera Deck - October 24th in Richmond, VA @ Art Works. hosted by the 804 Noise group please visit: http://www.thebluehouse.org/seller.php?id=25 to order any scarcelight items thanks for yr time. C http://scarcelight.org xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 17:10:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32520-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89267 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:10:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 89257 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:10:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:10:39 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, There's a good article on Derrida in the New York Times. You'll probably need to log in , here are a couple paragraphs for those who don't want to: Mr. Derrida's name is most closely associated with the often cited but rarely understood term "deconstruction." Initially formulated to define a strategy for interpreting sophisticated written and visual works, deconstruction has entered everyday language. When responsibly understood, the implications of deconstruction are quite different from the misleading clichés often used to describe a process of dismantling or taking things apart. The guiding insight of deconstruction is that every structure - be it literary, psychological, social, economic, political or religious - that organizes our experience is constituted and maintained through acts of exclusion. In the process of creating something, something else inevitably gets left out. These exclusive structures can become repressive - and that repression comes with consequences. In a manner reminiscent of Freud, Mr. Derrida insists that what is repressed does not disappear but always returns to unsettle every construction, no matter how secure it seems. As an Algerian Jew writing in France during the postwar years in the wake of totalitarianism on the right (fascism) as well as the left (Stalinism), Mr. Derrida understood all too well the danger of beliefs and ideologies that divide the world into diametrical opposites: right or left, red or blue, good or evil, for us or against us. He showed how these repressive structures, which grew directly out of the Western intellectual and cultural tradition, threatened to return with devastating consequences. By struggling to find ways to overcome patterns that exclude the differences that make life worth living, he developed a vision that is consistently ethical. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/opinion/14taylor.html?th ----- Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 17:28:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32521-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98621 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:28:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 98610 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:28:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:31:14 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this one? What Derrida Really Meant October 14, 2004 By MARK C. TAYLOR Along with Ludwig Wittgenstein and Martin Heidegger, Jacques Derrida, who died last week in Paris at the age of 74, will be remembered as one of the three most important philosophers of the 20th century. No thinker in the last 100 years had a greater impact than he did on people in more fields and different disciplines. Philosophers, theologians, literary and art critics, psychologists, historians, writers, artists, legal scholars and even architects have found in his writings resources for insights that have led to an extraordinary revival of the arts and humanities during the past four decades. And no thinker has been more deeply misunderstood. To people addicted to sound bites and overnight polls, Mr. Derrida's works seem hopelessly obscure. It is undeniable that they cannot be easily summarized or reduced to one-liners. The obscurity of his writing, however, does not conceal a code that can be cracked, but reflects the density and complexity characteristic of all great works of philosophy, literature and art. Like good French wine, his works age well. The more one lingers with them, the more they reveal about our world and ourselves. What makes Mr. Derrida's work so significant is the way he brought insights of major philosophers, writers, artists and theologians to bear on problems of urgent contemporary interest. Most of his infamously demanding texts consist of careful interpretations of canonical writers in the Western philosophical, literary and artistic traditions - from Plato to Joyce. By reading familiar works against the grain, he disclosed concealed meanings that created new possibilities for imaginative expression. Mr. Derrida's name is most closely associated with the often cited but rarely understood term "deconstruction." Initially formulated to define a strategy for interpreting sophisticated written and visual works, deconstruction has entered everyday language. When responsibly understood, the implications of deconstruction are quite different from the misleading clichés often used to describe a process of dismantling or taking things apart. The guiding insight of deconstruction is that every structure - be it literary, psychological, social, economic, political or religious - that organizes our experience is constituted and maintained through acts of exclusion. In the process of creating something, something else inevitably gets left out. These exclusive structures can become repressive - and that repression comes with consequences. In a manner reminiscent of Freud, Mr. Derrida insists that what is repressed does not disappear but always returns to unsettle every construction, no matter how secure it seems. As an Algerian Jew writing in France during the postwar years in the wake of totalitarianism on the right (fascism) as well as the left (Stalinism), Mr. Derrida understood all too well the danger of beliefs and ideologies that divide the world into diametrical opposites: right or left, red or blue, good or evil, for us or against us. He showed how these repressive structures, which grew directly out of the Western intellectual and cultural tradition, threatened to return with devastating consequences. By struggling to find ways to overcome patterns that exclude the differences that make life worth living, he developed a vision that is consistently ethical. And yet, supporters on the left and critics on the right have misunderstood this vision. Many of Mr. Derrida's most influential followers appropriated his analyses of marginal writers, works and cultures as well as his emphasis on the importance of preserving differences and respecting others to forge an identity politics that divides the world between the very oppositions that it was Mr. Derrida's mission to undo: black and white, men and women, gay and straight. Betraying Mr. Derrida's insights by creating a culture of political correctness, his self-styled supporters fueled the culture wars that have been raging for more than two decades and continue to frame political debate. To his critics, Mr. Derrida appeared to be a pernicious nihilist who threatened the very foundation of Western society and culture. By insisting that truth and absolute value cannot be known with certainty, his detractors argue, he undercut the very possibility of moral judgment. To follow Mr. Derrida, they maintain, is to start down the slippery slope of skepticism and relativism that inevitably leaves us powerless to act responsibly. This is an important criticism that requires a careful response. Like Kant, Kierkegaard and Nietzsche, Mr. Derrida does argue that transparent truth and absolute values elude our grasp. This does not mean, however, that we must forsake the cognitive categories and moral principles without which we cannot live: equality and justice, generosity and friendship. Rather, it is necessary to recognize the unavoidable limitations and inherent contradictions in the ideas and norms that guide our actions, and do so in a way that keeps them open to constant questioning and continual revision. There can be no ethical action without critical reflection. During the last decade of his life, Mr. Derrida became preoccupied with religion and it is in this area that his contribution might well be most significant for our time. He understood that religion is impossible without uncertainty. Whether conceived of as Yahweh, as the father of Jesus Christ, or as Allah, God can never be fully known or adequately represented by imperfect human beings. And yet, we live in an age when major conflicts are shaped by people who claim to know, for certain, that God is on their side. Mr. Derrida reminded us that religion does not always give clear meaning, purpose and certainty by providing secure foundations. To the contrary, the great religious traditions are profoundly disturbing because they all call certainty and security into question. Belief not tempered by doubt poses a mortal danger. As the process of globalization draws us ever closer in networks of communication and exchange, there is an understandable longing for simplicity, clarity and certainty. This desire is responsible, in large measure, for the rise of cultural conservatism and religious fundamentalism - in this country and around the world. True believers of every stripe - Muslim, Jewish and Christian - cling to beliefs that, Mr. Derrida warns, threaten to tear apart our world. Fortunately, he also taught us that the alternative to blind belief is not simply unbelief but a different kind of belief - one that embraces uncertainty and enables us to respect others whom we do not understand. In a complex world, wisdom is knowing what we don't know so that we can keep the future open. In the two decades I knew Mr. Derrida, we had many meetings and exchanges. In conversation, he listened carefully and responded helpfully to questions whether posed by undergraduates or colleagues. As a teacher, he gave freely of his time to several generations of students. But small things are the measure of the man. In 1986, my family and I were in Paris and Mr. Derrida invited us to dinner at his house in the suburbs 20 miles away. He insisted on picking us up at our hotel, and when we arrived at his home he presented our children with carnival masks. At 2 a.m., he drove us back to the city. In later years, when my son and daughter were writing college papers on his work, he sent them letters and postcards of encouragement as well as signed copies of several of his books. Jacques Derrida wrote eloquently about the gift of friendship but in these quiet gestures - gestures that served to forge connections among individuals across their differences - we see deconstruction in action. Bill Jarboe wrote: > Hi, > > There's a good article on Derrida in the New York Times. You'll probably > need to log in , here are a couple paragraphs for those who don't want to: > > Mr. Derrida's name is most closely associated with the often cited but > rarely understood term "deconstruction." Initially formulated to define a > strategy for interpreting sophisticated written and visual works, > deconstruction has entered everyday language. When responsibly understood, > the implications of deconstruction are quite different from the misleading > clichés often used to describe a process of dismantling or taking things > apart. The guiding insight of deconstruction is that every structure - be it > literary, psychological, social, economic, political or religious - that > organizes our experience is constituted and maintained through acts of > exclusion. In the process of creating something, something else inevitably > gets left out. > > These exclusive structures can become repressive - and that repression comes > with consequences. In a manner reminiscent of Freud, Mr. Derrida insists > that what is repressed does not disappear but always returns to unsettle > every construction, no matter how secure it seems. As an Algerian Jew > writing in France during the postwar years in the wake of totalitarianism on > the right (fascism) as well as the left (Stalinism), Mr. Derrida understood > all too well the danger of beliefs and ideologies that divide the world into > diametrical opposites: right or left, red or blue, good or evil, for us or > against us. He showed how these repressive structures, which grew directly > out of the Western intellectual and cultural tradition, threatened to return > with devastating consequences. By struggling to find ways to overcome > patterns that exclude the differences that make life worth living, he > developed a vision that is consistently ethical. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/opinion/14taylor.html?th > > ----- > > > > Bill > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Thu Oct 14 18:23:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32523-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30580 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:23:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 30569 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:23:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:23:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9x/knEkKIXVytdR5YMAMPQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9x/knEkKIXVytdR5YMAMPQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That's one of the smartest obits I've seen. For one thing, it doesn't use the ridiculous term "deconstructionism" (a term which cries out to be deconstructed!), or posit Derrida as the "father" of that "movement". BTW, I was led to understand there was a page on the TWiki for the Derrida Memorial. Where is it? P > Hi, > > There's a good article on Derrida in the New York Times. You'll probably > need to log in , here are a couple paragraphs for those who don't want to: > > > Mr. Derrida's name is most closely associated with the often cited but > rarely understood term "deconstruction." Initially formulated to define a > strategy for interpreting sophisticated written and visual works, > deconstruction has entered everyday language. When responsibly understood, > the implications of deconstruction are quite different from the misleading > clichés often used to describe a process of dismantling or taking things > apart. The guiding insight of deconstruction is that every structure - be it > literary, psychological, social, economic, political or religious - that > organizes our experience is constituted and maintained through acts of > exclusion. In the process of creating something, something else inevitably > gets left out. > > These exclusive structures can become repressive - and that repression comes > with consequences. In a manner reminiscent of Freud, Mr. Derrida insists > that what is repressed does not disappear but always returns to unsettle > every construction, no matter how secure it seems. As an Algerian Jew > writing in France during the postwar years in the wake of totalitarianism on > the right (fascism) as well as the left (Stalinism), Mr. Derrida understood > all too well the danger of beliefs and ideologies that divide the world into > diametrical opposites: right or left, red or blue, good or evil, for us or > against us. He showed how these repressive structures, which grew directly > out of the Western intellectual and cultural tradition, threatened to return > with devastating consequences. By struggling to find ways to overcome > patterns that exclude the differences that make life worth living, he > developed a vision that is consistently ethical. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/opinion/14taylor.html?th > > Bill ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --Boundary_(ID_9x/knEkKIXVytdR5YMAMPQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_9x/knEkKIXVytdR5YMAMPQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 18:29:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32524-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33824 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:29:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 33814 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:29:15 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:32:28 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Announce: CommTom Releases New Compilation To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7rbIj555DYM0ct5NaGKfYw)" X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_7rbIj555DYM0ct5NaGKfYw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit brutally slow server, great idea though. devslashnull wrote: > Communications of Tomorrow announces the release of its latest > compilation: > > "Polyphonic Voices of Digital Dissent" > a collection of highly opinionated audio > > http://www.commtom.com > > CD-R's have been mailed to interested radio stations across America. > All tracks are available for free download at the above address. If you > are listed below, please send us a mailing address so we can send you a > copy of the packaged CD-R (which is pretty nice by the way). CD-R's are > NOT for sale. Thanks to all those who submitted work. > --Boundary_(ID_7rbIj555DYM0ct5NaGKfYw)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 18:49:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32525-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43415 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:49:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 43399 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:49:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > That's one of the smartest obits I've seen. For one thing, it doesn't use the > ridiculous term "deconstructionism" (a term which cries out to be > deconstructed!), or posit Derrida as the "father" of that "movement". But now that I've read the whole article, I take it back. He has a more nuanced reading if deconstruction than most mainstream news outlets seem to, but ironically I think his writing on deconstruction needs to be deconstructed, since he's still saying that what matters is "what Derrida really meant", i.e., the author's intention, and that, for example, "identity politics" that appropriate his work are a "misunderstanding" of it. I doubt he's read much of the theory of this "identity politics"; the last thing that Homi Bhabha or Gaytri Spivak or Judith Butler are trying to do is re-establish the security of difference in a simplistic way. If anything there work shows how fragile and how embattled this construction called "identity" really is, how constantly under negotiation and erasure. They remind us that we do well to mobilize identity in a way which is contingent and negotiable, as in Spivak's well-known but also frequently "misunderstood" formulation "strategic essentialism". At the same time, they demonstrate that we can't do without identity, as it confers a kind of social legibility on us as subjects; thus for Spivak "deconstruction is the relentless critique of that which you cannot not want"; it's a "necessary impossibility" or a horizon, at which one never fully arrives no matter how much one tries. It's a naming which exists in the hope of the disappearance or radical undoing of what it names. Maybe that's not what "Derrida really meant", but any reading of Derrida that tries to control the uses of his text which exceed its original meaning reeks of the same spirit of closure which Derrida worked so hard to unravel. P ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 19:08:48 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32526-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55339 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:08:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 55328 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:08:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:11:42 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.10.14 18:23 +0000 ) Phil Thomson: > BTW, I was led to understand there was a page on the TWiki for the Derrida > Memorial. Where is it? http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/WebHome?topic=DerridaMemorial there's nothing there yet. -- \js iraq body count: 13,224 [min] 15,292 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 19:13:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32527-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58604 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:13:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 58592 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:13:17 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:13:13 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] protein and hearing To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041013233332.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 14 21:41:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32528-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28091 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:41:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 28055 invoked from network); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:41:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:40:43 -0400 From: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] ....the prepared mind? Sender: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxx-x-xxxx-xxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I have a question about the following quote by Louis Pasteur : "Dans les champs de l'observation le hasard ne favorise que les esprits prepares." [ In the fields of observation, chance favours only the prepared minds. ] My question then is : What does Pasteur mean here by " les esprits " ? Mind? Minds? Or something more than mind/minds? Or what? Thanks for any translation clues. Thomas Ashcraft .. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 05:49:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32529-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1846 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:49:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 1836 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:49:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 05:48:12 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?U+liYXN0aWVuIEhheWV6?= <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] ....the prepared mind? X-Originating-IP: [81.49.20.80] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2004 05:49:00.0494 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB6BCEE0:01C4B27A] Hi Thomas, That's just a way to say that "chance favours people who are prepared to "catch" chance. He say spirit because of science but that's not in relation with religion, philosophy, etc. Just an old way to say "scientist". >"Dans les champs de l'observation le hasard ne >favorise que les esprits prepares." > >[ In the fields of observation, chance favours only >the prepared minds. ] > > > >My question then is : What does Pasteur mean here by " les esprits " ? >Mind? Minds? Or something more than mind/minds? Or what? > >Thanks for any translation clues. > > >Thomas Ashcraft _________________________________________________________________ Trouvez l'âme soeur sur MSN Rencontres http://g.msn.fr/FR1000/9551 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 10:31:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32530-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63548 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:31:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 63538 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:31:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:31:47 -0700 (PDT) From: sambok wok <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] se asia.... To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello list, a long shot question but here does anyone know of any microsound events going on in indonesia/singapore/malaysia/thailand nov-feb 2005? or if anyone on this list is there or going and maybe wants to organize a happening? beste. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Fri Oct 15 14:11:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32531-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20253 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 20243 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:11:45 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Latest on jetgroove In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130304bd958b14df17@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/15/jetgroove_drops_songs/ AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 14:37:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32532-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36812 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:37:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 36802 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:37:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:37:09 -0400 From: "William A. Davison" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9558D5.1837%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/14/04 1:10 PM, Bill Jarboe at xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > Hi, > > There's a good article on Derrida in the New York Times. You'll probably > need to log in , here are a couple paragraphs for those who don't want to: > My encounters with people who use "deconstruction" (or a poor facsimile of it) to tear down other people's ideas in order to prop up their own (as if that makes any sense!) has served to turn me off of deconstruction and Derrida. As a consequence, even though I've always suspected that Derrida's ideas were likely being misunderstood and/or abused by these people, I've never bothered to actually delve into Derrida's work. Now I will. Thanks! - William A. Davison www.recordism.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 14:52:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32534-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45224 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:52:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 45212 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:52:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:43:56 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] Bush coached by WiFi in recentdebate? In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0610051ebd95917df470@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <"1F1DB24D-1CF3-11D9-92E 3-003065B71FBC"@seasonalbk.net> <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx At 12:19 PM -0400 10/13/04, Jonathan Hughes wrote: >I may be wrong, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone these >days who refers to anything other than the Internet (capital I) as an/the >internet (lowercase i). I would think that LAN and WAN would be the terms >of choice. I think you're right. The generic use of "internet" (lower case) is now mostly historic, though the capitalization of the global version remains preferred usages (as does Web, though this is fading). >2. Someone to come up with a better name than "intranet." I love how >everyone (myself included) is forced to pronounce it inTRAnet to make it >clear that they aren't talking about the inTERnet. A sad comment on the state of pronunciation. Even professional speakers, such as radio and television news readers are guilty of sloppy and incorrect performance. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 14:49:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32533-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42906 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:49:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 42896 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:49:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:49:10 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD94011E.8C24%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I haven't read the article and honestly I do not know much about Derrida (just beginning in that direction) but with someone like Derrida there is always a controversy and here it is: http://www.humanities.uci.edu/remembering_jd/ All the best, PoM:A __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Fri Oct 15 15:11:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32536-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55419 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:11:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 55409 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:11:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:12:06 -0400 From: Eloy Anzola <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] [ot] [politics] "that internet thing" In-reply-to: <p05210607bd95995658cf@[64.63.223.66]> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <000001c4b2c9$56b4da00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Organization: groovylab MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - liberty.dnsprotect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - groovylab.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Someone is selling... 3 Million Wetlands on the Internets!: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=12&item=3754032262&rd =1&ssPageName=WDVW ----- xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://groovylab.com > -----Original Message----- > From: chthonic streams [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:14 AM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] "that internet thing" > > > >At 12:19 PM -0400 10/13/04, Jonathan Hughes wrote: > > > >>I may be wrong, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find > someone these > >>days who refers to anything other than the Internet > (capital I) as an/the > >>internet (lowercase i). I would think that LAN and WAN > would be the terms > >>of choice. > > > >I think you're right. The generic use of "internet" (lower case) is > >now mostly historic, though the capitalization of the global version > >remains preferred usages (as does Web, though this is fading). > > unfortunately not with proofreaders and copy editors. they also > insist on referring to this mode of communication as "E-mail". > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 14:59:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32535-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49587 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:59:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 49574 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:59:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:13:55 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] "that internet thing" In-reply-to: <p0610051ebd95917df470@[192.168.0.2]> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210607bd95995658cf@[64.63.223.66]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <"1F1DB24D-1CF3-11D9-92 E 3-003065B71FBC"@seasonalbk.net> <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <p0610051ebd95917df470@[192.168.0.2]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >At 12:19 PM -0400 10/13/04, Jonathan Hughes wrote: > >>I may be wrong, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone these >>days who refers to anything other than the Internet (capital I) as an/the >>internet (lowercase i). I would think that LAN and WAN would be the terms >>of choice. > >I think you're right. The generic use of "internet" (lower case) is >now mostly historic, though the capitalization of the global version >remains preferred usages (as does Web, though this is fading). unfortunately not with proofreaders and copy editors. they also insist on referring to this mode of communication as "E-mail". d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 15:33:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32537-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 62894 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:33:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 62884 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:33:09 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:29:57 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] "that internet thing" In-reply-to: <p05210607bd95995658cf@[64.63.223.66]> X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06100524bd959aa81a7e@[192.168.0.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NVerUPS5Mz4+JSNdYiZCKQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <"1F1DB24D-1CF3-11D9-92 E 3-003065B71FBC"@seasonalbk.net> <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <p0610051ebd95917df470@[192.168.0.2]> <p05210607bd95995658cf@[64.63.223.66]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_NVerUPS5Mz4+JSNdYiZCKQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 11:13 AM -0400 10/15/04, chthonic streams wrote: >>I think you're right. The generic use of "internet" (lower case) is >>now mostly historic, though the capitalization of the global >>version remains preferred usages (as does Web, though this is >>fading). > >unfortunately not with proofreaders and copy editors. they also >insist on referring to this mode of communication as "E-mail". I think that depends on which proofreaders and copy editors you're referencing. For instance, at Computer Music Journal (MIT Press) "Internet" and "Web" are standard. "E-mail" would probably be better as lower case. The test for capitalization is whether a word is a proper noun. Apropos and controversial: Wired News has dropped capitalization of "Internet," "Web," and "Net" as of August 16, 2004. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com --Boundary_(ID_NVerUPS5Mz4+JSNdYiZCKQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 16:18:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32538-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78880 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:18:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 78870 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:18:54 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:18:55 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9570AF.170E7%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Perhaps if you had read the article, then you would know that the page you linked isn't much controversy either. tV > I haven't read the article and honestly I do not know > much about Derrida (just beginning in that direction) > but with someone like Derrida there is always a > controversy and here it is: > > http://www.humanities.uci.edu/remembering_jd/ > > All the best, > PoM:A > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy --- New School Philosophy -------- ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 16:31:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32539-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86271 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:31:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 86259 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:31:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:31:19 -0700 (PDT) From: { brad brace } <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] se asia.... In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: sambok wok <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Cc: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx let me know as well I'll be in Thailand Nov-Mar 2005 be pleased to help --- bbs: brad brace sound --- --- http://63.170.215.11:8000 --- The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project >>>> posted since 1994 <<<< "... easily the most venerable net-art project of all time." + + + serial ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/b/bbrace + + + eccentric ftp:// (your-site-here!) + + + continuous hotline://artlyin.ftr.va.com.au + + + hypermodern ftp://ftp.rdrop.com/pub/users/bbrace + + + imagery ftp:// (your-site-here!) News: alt.binaries.pictures.12hr alt.binaries.pictures.misc alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.misc alt.12hr .. 12hr email subscriptions => http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/buy-into.html .. Other | Mirror: http://www.eskimo.com/~bbrace/bbrace.html Projects | Reverse Solidus: http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/ | http://bbrace.net { brad brace } <<<<< xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx >>>> ~finger for pgp On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, sambok wok wrote: > hello list, > a long shot question but here does anyone know of any > microsound events going on in > indonesia/singapore/malaysia/thailand nov-feb 2005? > or if anyone on this list is there or going and maybe > wants to organize a happening? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 17:18:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32540-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3939 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:18:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 3925 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:18:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:18:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Convolution, resonance and data sonification X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, A request for assistance: I am looking for names of pieces that use the following techniques: convolution (especially in the sense of cross-synthesis and less as the simulation of reverberation) resonation (the use of resonators or resonant filters to draw out particular frequencies in a signal; Barry Truax's work since about 1995 makes extensive use of similar techniques) data sonification (in the sense of converting arbitrary data files (image, text, video) into sound by means of file format hacking; i.e., data-bending) Please reply offlist. P ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 17:43:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32541-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14755 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:42:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 14729 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:42:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:39:18 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD9570AF.170E7%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD9570AF.170E7%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a few publications bad mouthed Derrida severely in their obituaries: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/miller_molesky200410130841.asp http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,542-1303821,00.html Peace, A On Oct 15, 2004, at 12:18 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > Perhaps if you had read the article, then you would know that the page > you > linked isn't much controversy either. tV > >> I haven't read the article and honestly I do not know >> much about Derrida (just beginning in that direction) >> but with someone like Derrida there is always a >> controversy and here it is: >> >> http://www.humanities.uci.edu/remembering_jd/ >> >> All the best, >> PoM:A >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! 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We finish. >> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ > http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- > http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- > McGill Communication + Philosophy > --- New School Philosophy -------- > ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 17:45:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32542-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16611 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:45:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 16596 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:45:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:42:33 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD9570AF.170E7%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1wZ55ij5qpPBI2QTJGscug)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD9570AF.170E7%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_1wZ55ij5qpPBI2QTJGscug) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Oct 15, 2004, at 12:18 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > Perhaps if you had read the article, then you would know that the page > you > linked isn't much controversy either. tV no that page very directly states the controversy: " Jacques Derrida died in Paris on Friday, October 8, 2004. The first occasion for this site was an obituary published by the New York Times on October 10, 2004, deemed by many of Jacques' colleagues, friends, and supporters to be unjust, disrespectful, and unbalanced. A letter written by Samuel Weber and Kenneth Reinhard to the New York Times quickly gathered so many signatures that we realized a web site was needed to record the names of those who wished to be heard." and 1200 people have signed. Peace, 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --Boundary_(ID_1wZ55ij5qpPBI2QTJGscug)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 17:59:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32543-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21998 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:59:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 21988 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:59:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:59:05 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD958829.1710B%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx andrew, sishi eater et list, I should have withheld my snippy comment. My apologies. What I was meaning to convey was that such "controversies" are often incessantly continued by those who "haven't read the article and honestly I do not know much about Derrida." Not to pick on sishi eater (whom I quoted there), but only to suggest that perhaps one SHOULD go read a few articles, etc., before proclaiming yet another controversy? There is some high irony here. 'Tis all. As for the petition, yes I do know about it, and have signed it. I also know of the vicious, spiteful obituaries -- I've been cataloguing them. Nixon was the most deserving man of a cutting obituary -- and HST saw to that. But Derrida was something entirely other, and has done little to deserve the pitiful, malicious vengeance that the press has displayed save for thinking beyond the demeaning confines of contemporary reportage and public analysis. Such press gives all journalism the reputation (or lack thereof) it has today. There's a catalogue of links here: http://www.haloscan.com/comments/tobiasv/E302526524/ best, tobias > > On Oct 15, 2004, at 12:18 PM, tobias c. van Veen wrote: > >> Perhaps if you had read the article, then you would know that the page >> you >> linked isn't much controversy either. tV > > no that page very directly states the controversy: > > " Jacques Derrida died in Paris on Friday, October 8, 2004. The first > occasion for this site was an obituary published by the New York Times > on October 10, 2004, deemed by many of Jacques' colleagues, friends, > and supporters to be unjust, disrespectful, and unbalanced. A letter > written by Samuel Weber and Kenneth Reinhard to the New York Times > quickly gathered so many signatures that we realized a web site was > needed to record the names of those who wished to be heard." > > and 1200 people have signed. > > Peace, > 912 Euclid Ave. > Birmingham, AL, 35213 > 407-927-7607 > aim: liminal18 > tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy --- New School Philosophy -------- ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 15 20:25:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32544-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74364 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:25:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 74352 invoked from network); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:25:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:25:23 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD958042.8C50%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/15/04 10:39 AM, andrew jones at xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > a few publications bad mouthed > Derrida severely in their obituaries: > > http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/miller_molesky200410130841.asp > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,542-1303821,00.html "But Derrida built no new intellectual edifice. His project was one of destruction ‹ or "deconstruction." Derrida claimed to have discovered that all texts contain inherent contradictions that fatally compromise their ability to communicate meaning. The upshot was that the entire Western philosophical and literary tradition rested on an enormous fallacy. Fundamental concepts like logic and truth were illusions. Derrida himself wrote more than 50 books attempting to prove that nothing could be said." The Master is now absent. Unfortunately, his leveling children remain a powerful presence on campus. ‹ John J. Miller is a writer for National Review and Mark Molesky is an assistant professor of history at Seton Hall University. Their new book, Our Oldest Enemy: A History of America's Disastrous Relationship with France, has just been published by Doubleday. " end quote. I have a reading suggestion, especially for those feeling kind of tepid on this matter of Derrida: 'Epitaphs' is a collection of speeches essays , etc. he (J.D.) wrote on the occasions of various friends and colleagues passings. Also of interest: 'Deconstruction in a Nutshell' http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=98137872 though of course I haven't read it. b. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 00:01:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32545-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55213 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:01:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 55199 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:01:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:01:13 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD958042.8C50%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ea/swnCTbnM4bxZPS3XochwjOuXybEa/e98XkSXWdn/N5lEBFi4ntvlLFjmCCOo9KPLR+8lLEiv5pJyr29+LP/3kLwOV3qqgcoPpjaHOPOQgWjD9BKIPCNWtrJlfICrJ40sI8Tq3WAG+LvURg9hXHsjfbU3HJdnAw3rAfYisNM4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <BD958042.8C50%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx It's not worth cataloguing the writings of morons on death of Derrida who themselves have yet to master a single page of his text. Derrida has done more in one lifetime than any of these people could aspire to within 20. Yeah, deconstruction and Derrida are hard work, but so is physics, econometrics, and advanced calculus. The rewards come after the work is done, but I wouldn't trust 99% of journalists to figure that out. Mark Taylor's follow up obit made this point. "To people addicted to sound bites and overnight polls, Mr. Derrida's works seem hopelessly obscure. It is undeniable that they cannot be easily summarized or reduced to one-liners." The Derrida obit writers remind me of standup comics who can't tell jokes. RIP Jacques Derrida. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 00:11:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32546-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60346 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:11:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 60331 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:11:15 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:11:11 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida Article in N.Y.T. In-reply-to: <BD958042.8C50%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=g3BVjYGVsQ28Yq6ERsQ/e85RATYv7WK5EU0PL9MfpesGjA7V/mYwAX77HBI0juLofEt/IFLc2yX2Jp34LoJ1LSS2Nti+va6r8vRN8Tg9T0UlrHxo35dDHUp8mpcFxd81VVbXDIGGgv3CinZWYi0ZUaKuIjy2CVeSxw/yuVxcffE X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> <BD958042.8C50%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:25:23 -0700, Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > on 10/15/04 10:39 AM, andrew jones at xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx wrote: > > > a few publications bad mouthed > > Derrida severely in their obituaries: > > > > http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/miller_molesky200410130841.asp > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,542-1303821,00.html The real irony of all of this is that Jacques Chirac spoke eloquently of Derrida, his life and his intellectual contribution last week even though both men were diametrically opposed, politically. Imagine Bush doing something like this for a major American intellectual. He wouldn't even know who they were. given that climate, the lousy obits should come as no surprise. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 04:30:51 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32547-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26606 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 04:30:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 26595 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 04:30:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:30:41 -0700 From: Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Convolution, resonance and data sonification In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 15, 2004, at 10:18 AM, Phil Thomson wrote: > resonation (the use of resonators or resonant filters to draw out > particular frequencies in a signal; Barry Truax's work since about > 1995 makes extensive use of similar techniques) I know that much of Trevor Wishart's work since the 80's has made use of linear predictive coding, a technique that uses resonators as you described. Check out the Voiceprints cd... possibly Tongues of Fire as well. > data sonification (in the sense of converting arbitrary data files > (image, text, video) into sound by means of file format hacking; i.e., > data-bending) Actually, if you find any particularly interesting works based on data sonification, I would love to hear about them. - Scott xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 04:32:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32548-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27692 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 04:32:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 27682 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 04:32:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:47:01 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] [politics] "that internet thing" In-reply-to: <p06100524bd959aa81a7e@[192.168.0.2]> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210602bd9657f559aa@[64.63.223.203]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <"1F1DB24D-1CF3-11D9-92 E 3-003065B71FBC"@seasonalbk.net> <p0610050abd9302b9c7e0@[192.168.0.2]> <xxxxx.xxx.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <p0610051ebd95917df470@[192.168.0.2]> <p05210607bd95995658cf@[64.63.223.66]> <p06100524bd959aa81a7e@[192.168.0.2]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >At 11:13 AM -0400 10/15/04, chthonic streams wrote: > >>>I think you're right. The generic use of "internet" (lower case) >>>is now mostly historic, though the capitalization of the global >>>version remains preferred usages (as does Web, though this is >>>fading). >> >>unfortunately not with proofreaders and copy editors. they also >>insist on referring to this mode of communication as "E-mail". > >I think that depends on which proofreaders and copy editors you're >referencing. For instance, at Computer Music Journal (MIT Press) >"Internet" and "Web" are standard. "E-mail" would probably be better >as lower case. >The test for capitalization is whether a word is a proper noun. >Apropos and controversial: Wired News has dropped capitalization of >"Internet," "Web," and "Net" as of August 16, 2004. absolutely right. i will append that statement: proofers and CE's who are not working for internet-savvy i.e. techie publcations. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 05:23:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32549-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38776 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:23:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 38766 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:23:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [PRESS RELEASE] NAW CD RELEASE PARTY NOV 6th 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx PRESS RELEASE: On Nov 6th 2004 at the Casa del Popolo in Montreal Noise Factory Records will be holding a label night and CD release for NAWs newest album "green nights orange days." Playing this night will also be two new Noise Factory Artists HEXES & OHS - and our most recent signing NYBBL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SATURDAY NOVEMBER 6 2004 Noise Factory Records and CKUT brings you a night of free live music featuring live performances by: NAW - freshly back from his european debut, NAW will launch his newest noise factory cd "green nights orange days" with live versions of his own take on post electronic dance music from both his noise factory releases as well as some new ones never heard before, you never really know what to expect from a live set by this artist. also appearing on this special night 2 of Noise Factory Records newest signings: HEXES & OHS - former members of: a vertical mosaic, show off their newest electro-pop tuneage from their up coming noise factory release. NYBBL - rochester NYs own 8 bit IDM rocker makes his debut north of the border as a noise factory artist. and rounding out the nights entertainment KHANFUCIUS the mp3 dj selector for the night, will be helping to keep the party going before, after and in between the live musical acts for the evening when: SATURDAY NOVEMBER 6 2004 where: CASA DEL POPOLO, 4873 St-Laurent time: 9pm how much: FREE for more info visit: http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com contact xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx or xxx@xxxxxx.xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PRESS RELEASE Noise Factory Records brings you another fine evening, showcasing some of its up coming releases for 2004 and 2005. These label showcases the second for Montreal is designed to act as a sampling of the diverse sounding talent this Canadian mainstay of a label has to offer. Each of these label events is an assembly of some of the labels most interesting and newest offerings its artists have to offer, all working to create an Immersive deep listening experience. The evening will feature the release of the latest offering from label alumni artist: NAW called "green nights orange days". Over 2 years in the making the new NAW cd will be officially released on this special night. freshly back from his european debut, NAW will launch his newest noise factory cd with live versions of his own take on post-electronic dance music. Performing a sampling from both his noise factory releases as well as some new never heard before material, you never really know what to expect from a live set by this artist. Also appearing will be 2 of Noise Factory Records newest signings: HEXES & OHS former members of: a vertical mosaic, show off their newest electro-pop tuneage from their up coming 2005 noise factory release and NYBBL, Rochester NYs own 8 bit IDM rocker makes his debut north of the border as a noise factory artist and promises to help get the nights festivities going with some deep introspective material. Rounding out the nights entertainment will be none other then KHANFUCIUS the mp3 dj selector for the night, who will be helping to keep the party going before, after and in between the live musical acts for the evening with his own brand of IDM left of centre sounds. BIOS/INFO NOISE FACTORY RECORDS http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com Taken from various interviews with Joe English, Noise Factory Records the man behind the label: "All roads lead back to Joy Division. They were the most influential band during my teen years. From that point, everything else fell into place. At one point I was so into electronic industrial music that I began adopting the anti-guitar philosophy of Test Department. That didnt last long. The next major influence came with David Sylvians Secrets of the Beehive. I suppose these two musical styles represent the scope of what would become Noise Factory Records. As for the Noise Factory, it began as a college radio show on CHRY during the early 90s. The show played mainly industrial, electronic and ambient music. We had a couple of parties under the Noise Factory moniker, but once we graduated university it all kind of ended. Life began to play its cruel little game. I got a job at IBM and hated every day. So I started the label in 1996. I knew nothing about running a label, and I had no contacts but I had a good friend that was in a band, and wanted to put out an album. It made sense at the time and it still makes sense." "The Noise Factory is not made up of musicians or former record executives. The Noise Factory came into existence out of a need and desire for something new. We truly believe the music we represent is some of the most wonderful and beautiful music currently being made. Unlike many indie labels we offer a different viewpoint, one of the music lover and consumer." NAW www.noisefactoryrecords.com montreal native neil wiernik began his explorations in electronic music making as early as 1988. known to push the boundaries of his musical form, naws music is a blend of sound manipulation/design, experimental music and dub-tech rhythms, which on the surface sound quite simple, but incorporate a number of touches that steer this artist away from being simply another minimal techno or experimental laptop artist. he combines post-house, dubby minimal techno, microsound and thick ambience, to create his own version of deep techno, house and other electronic laptop oriented musics. neil has released music on various national and international record labels, including up coming releases in 2004 on clever-music, worthy records and his follow up full length to his 2002 noise factory release called green nights orange days due out october 2004 and will include tours to co-enside with this release in canada and europe in october/november and through out 2005. HEXES & OHS http://www.averticalmosaic.ca Oh no, not another "couple" band! Yes, they are a couple, but they dont sing about being a couple. In fact, the former "a vertical mosaic" twosome Heidi Donnelly and Edmund Lam have played in bands together for so long that that kind of thing would have gotten old pretty quick. Instead they sing about alienation and despair, with the occasional tongue-in-cheek optimism, accompanied by synths, sequencers and guitars. They look up to bands like New Order, Simon & Garfunkel, the Velvet Underground, Stereolab and Tortoise. They end up sounding more like: the Postal Service, the Pet Shop Boys and Belle and Sebastian. Their brooding, infectious and dance-inducing new album will be out on Noise Factory Records Spring 2005. You'll dance and you'll cry. NYBBL http://www.nybbl.com Combining sweet melodies, pulsating rhythms, field samples, and textures culled from the world around us, nybbl interjects sweat and emotion into the sterile landscape of digital music. Essentially a guitarist who was courted by electronic music over the course of many years, nybbl attempts to look past the accepted forms and genres of electronic music to a boundaryless expression of heart and sound. KHANFUCIUS http://www.panospria.com Local mixologist Khanfucius, has been providing various events in Montreal, Winnipeg and Dublin, Ireland with a seamless blend of IDM/ambient soundscapes and experimental music since 1996. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 05:27:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32550-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44420 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:27:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 44410 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:27:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil Wiernik <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Phoniq Event #4 - Oct29 / Event Info, Press Release, Bios To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Organization: The Dreaming Electronic Community Network Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dreaming.org X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx *EVENT INFORMATION - PHONIQ#4 Black Market [g25/Bumpy] Ensemble Camp [No Type] Argon Floozy [Panospria] +DJ Khanfucius Vendredi, 29 Octobre La Salle D'Attente / Esperanza 5490 boul St-Laurent 21h - 5$ http://www.phoniq.net/ *PRESS RELEASE The Phoniq collective brings you the fourth in our ongoing series of live electronic music events. Each of these events are designed to act as an exploration into the different intersections between technology and music/art making. This particular evening will showcase experimental music by some notable local artists in various genres. Phoniq is proud to present the premiere of Argon Floozy, the latest group project of the Panospria collective who will be starting the show off with their dark ambient dub quartet. No Type label heads David Turgeon & Aimé Dontigny will then be mixing up fractured beats and warped textures as Ensemble Camp, their ongoing project for prepared CDs. Topping the night off and pushing the tempo way up will be the hyperactive drill n' bass stylings of the notorious Black Market. *BIOS/INFO PHONIQ [www.phoniq.net] Phoniq is a collective of individuals dedicated to promoting bleeding edge electronic music/art in interesting variable environments, with an emphasis on exposing aural and visual talent that has not yet been exposed to the electronic arts communities of Montreal and Canada. We aim to showcase upstart music producers, DJs, and emerging visual artists all working in electronic realms. Our foremost goal is to showcase off the wall and raw genres of music and visual electronic arts- not just those that are currently "en vogue" or will be shortly. The concept for Phoniq came together through the chance meeting of 2 active members of the Montreal/Canadian electronic music and digital arts community: CKUT-FM DJ/host Cyan and dub glitch techno producer NAW. Phoniq has grown out of the combined histories of these 2 individuals. NAW brings the Clonk legacy that he created 6 years ago in Toronto, which hosted such artists as: Monolake, Kit Clayton and Sutekh. Cyan brings her ongoing involvement in community radio, event coordinating and DJ talents. Since then the collective has grown to include 5 core members responsible for keeping things running. After a short 6 months phoniq has grown from an idea of "how can we create a viable promotional vehicle for Canadian electronic artists", into a music series, an active community mailing list/community forum, and in the coming months Phoniq will relaunch its site designed to act as a portal resource for the Canadian electronic music community which will include a net-label. BLACK MARKET [g25 Productions / Bumpy Records] Black Market adamantly denies these allegations, dismissing them as rumours and hearsay. This form of character-assassination should not be tolerated in the experimental drum n' bass community. For the record he is releasing two different albums later this year on two different small American labels, and he has never even *met* the President's daughters. ENSEMBLE CAMP [No Type Records] Ensemble Camp is a variable-sized ensemble performing works written or arranged specifically for the CD player medium. In the past, Ensemble Camp has performed in Saskatoon, in France & of course on various occasions in Montreal. Its core members are David Turgeon & Aimé Dontigny but on occasion the group has included Jon Vaughn, Érick D'Orion, Christophe Havard. ARGON FLOOZY [Panospria Records] On this evening, members of the Panospria collective will unveil Argon Floozy, their latest group project since Kokoro No Jojishi in 2003. For this performance the band will feature Shane Turner, John Brennan, Anthony Wilson and Tomas Matthews, who will construct and manipulate a sonic whirlpool of deep, moody music. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 09:58:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32551-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91006 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:58:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 90996 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:58:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:58:46 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [announce] pd workshop birmingham 18.-22.october To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 18-22 October 04 vivid, Birmingham, UK Pure Data Lab, by Malte Steiner Workshops will cover: 'development of computer music' 'history of sound synthesis' 'working in the 3D space' 'generative sound installations' and 'visual processing' Each workshop will be preceded by an introductory talk led by Steiner. The workshops are intended for people with experience in multimedia software, seats are limited and registration at vivid is necessary. For more information on Malte Steiner see http://www.block4.com Pure Data http://www.puredata.info vivid and registration: http://www.vivid.org.uk/bulletin.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 11:33:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32552-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 07:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 07:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8273 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:33:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 8263 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:33:49 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:33:44 +0100 From: alex <xxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] dorkbotlondon, this Wednesday 20th October at state51 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-- DORKBOTLONDON #21 --=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-- "People doing strange things with electricity" Time: Wednesday 20th October 2004 from 7pm Place: state51, 8-10 Rhoda Street, off the top of brick lane http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?Postcode2Map?code=e2+7ef&title=dorkbot+location+-+state51&back=dorkbotlondon&url=http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotlondon/&nolocal=X see website (http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotlondon/) for directions Featuring... * Leesa & Nicole Abahuni - Turbo Twins * Mike Harrison - his One megavolt marx generator and Jacobs-Ladder-O-Phone of fire! * Gavin Starks - Blending Radio Astrophysics with Music (music inspired by the recent discovery of a double pulsar system) * opendorks ... If you want to present an opendork (ad-hoc 7 minute presentation), please let us know in advance, we have a packed schedule this month! See you Wednesday! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 17:28:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32553-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79844 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:28:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 79834 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:28:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:27:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] Indymedia petition X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://solidarity.indymedia.org.uk/ Phil ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 17:36:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32554-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82423 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:36:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 82413 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:36:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:35:21 +0200 From: mik <xxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Convolution, resonance and data sonification In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a certain Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > data sonification (in the sense of converting arbitrary data files > > (image, text, video) into sound by means of file format hacking; i.e., > > data-bending) > Actually, if you find any particularly interesting works based on data > sonification, I would love to hear about them. > > - Scott > xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx > i think pimmon used to do that (e.g. with .dll-files). can't give you any titles though. m -- --------___________________________ hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk -- --------___________________________ hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 18:01:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32555-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88061 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:01:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 88051 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:01:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT) From: tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Derrida's media death In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "It's not worth cataloguing the writings of morons on death of Derrida who themselves have yet to master a single page of his text. " no, it's not. it struck me that this response to his death (the Times Obit, etc. etc.) -- providing a platform for the mainstream spleen-bags to whip up some venomous (cliche) slams of Deconstruction (and really of non-white, non-male players in the fields of what I'll call knowledge production, if you ask me), ironically brings to mind one of the very key aspects of Derrida's work. (On a side note, this scene of violence -- and it is violence to so profoundly attack a public person on the occassion of their death -- may actually be better analyzed thru Zizek's work on how people enjoy the 'freedom' of their dominance and their violence, from a certain vantage ...?...). What is remarkable in this parade of journalistic stupidity, is how ironically it ends up revealing just how on-target Derrida's work on logocentric fallacies is now, today. It is almost uncanny really. What these disrespectul, totally inappropriate pieces are all steeped in is exactly this penchant to nail things down into certain hard 'truths'. Rather then to priveledge the idea of finding ways to open up understandings, resonances, etc. The Times obit piece is a prime example. This scene of the press tells us quite a lot, about just how limited the press is, and how much the press is engaged in the very things that Derrida and others have worked to reveal as limited, obscuring, and further, engaged in a certain violence. In the end, there is a difference. Derrida's death in the media became a production for a mass blindspot, and hence, by neccesity, the occassion for a kind of work of bringing to light truth. Isn't this in many ways what he has taught us, provoked us, helped us to understand, with pleasure and pain and work? -- Anyhow, back to another grain of what he taught us -- the importance of being engaged in the time of our world -- Here is an interview with him done a few months ago, where he speaks well to the alter-globalization movement, and the problematics of mounting a critique singly targeted at Bush-Blair in the current 'euro-US world system' of war. http://www.indymedia.be/print.php?id=83123 -andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 22:53:26 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32556-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 91198 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:53:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 91188 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:53:20 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:53:16 +0900 From: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Derrida's media death In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Bill Ashline <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=A8QoxyErNVL1vSbrGcvBgcI5G5OgG2LYb8GapPJK+IiN3kCYhuwJTfo4vPX3AiYLl9dM4uuNRh18DeB+8EAtZeK7O2ZvomMoPcqieWtXNzS0p/Ul3xUNMLKRF4XQ+FgcrAp8GjiB4bR/p3CJHf13e0JT75QJdl93q3GM5WjJ8R8 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT), tasty radish <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > it struck me that this response to his death (the > Times Obit, etc. etc.) -- providing a platform for the > mainstream spleen-bags to whip up some venomous > (cliche) slams of Deconstruction (and really of > non-white, non-male players in the fields of what I'll > call knowledge production, if you ask me), ironically > brings to mind one of the very key aspects of > Derrida's work. Well said. For me, Derrida's ultimate statement on the media was his essay on the NY Review of Books printed in the collection "Points." It pretty much sums up my feelings about the obits as well. Thanks for the link. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 16 23:08:32 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32557-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94915 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:08:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 94905 invoked from network); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:08:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:07:30 -0500 From: "Robair, Gino" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] BrainGate: Paralysed man sends e-mail by thought To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: microsound Digest 16 Oct 2004 00:01:18 -0000 Issue 1275 Thread-index: AcSzE25NOSOoFQOhSjuLCKZ+VEvm4gAwU5MB Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2004 23:07:30.0735 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9A1CBF0:01C4B3D4] Not sure if this story link was posted already... http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041011/full/041011-9.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 17 07:17:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32558-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12305 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:17:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 12295 invoked from network); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:17:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:17:49 -0700 From: Kevin Ponto <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Convolution, resonance and data sonification In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Provags-ID: perfora.net xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx 85f6f213efa75345adbd40246e580591 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 16, 2004, at 10:35 AM, mik wrote: > a certain Scott Carver <xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >>> data sonification (in the sense of converting arbitrary data files >>> (image, text, video) into sound by means of file format hacking; >>> i.e., >>> data-bending) >> Actually, if you find any particularly interesting works based on data >> sonification, I would love to hear about them. >> >> - Scott >> xxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx >> smartelectronix just finished up a remix competition where remixes were only allowed to use their plugs as sources, both in the conventional way and including data-bending of their plug's source code. might find some interesting stuff at the finals page. http://www.smartelectronix.com/competitionResults.php?selected=compRes k:p --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 17 13:40:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32559-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75578 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:40:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 75568 invoked from network); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:40:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:40:22 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Symbiosis Playlist - 10/10/04 (Dallas Simpson) To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDIGEGFDDAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Symbiosis Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms [Headphones recommended] 12am - 2am Sunday nights (2pm - 4pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hi all, This week on Symbiosis I'm taking a break from any guests/content and reviewing some of the great new releases that have arrived lately. In the pipeline: Listening to the Mind concert, Anthony Guerra, Sijis Records, Taalem Records, Steve Law, Ian Andrews, Mike Hallenbeck Until next week, Simon. now playing: Greg Davis - Somnia now watching: Jersey Girl -------------------------------------------- Show Date: 10/10/04 Guests/Features: Dallas Simpson talked about his binaural recordings and I broadcast one of his location-specific recordings. 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Sun Oct 17 19:28:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32560-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51205 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:28:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 51194 invoked from network); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:28:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:28:23 -0400 From: Kurt Ralske <xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Convolution, resonance and data sonification In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD984017.269FF%xxxxxxxx@xxxx-xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> data sonification (in the sense of converting arbitrary data files >> (image, text, video) into sound by means of file format hacking; i.e., >> data-bending) > Actually, if you find any particularly interesting works based on data > sonification, I would love to hear about them. An interesting project involving sonification of weather data: http://www.andreapolli.com/studio/atmospherics/ And for Max users, a free tool used in the creation of this type of work: (click "datareader" link from front page) http://www.andreapolli.com/ Kurt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 17 20:42:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32561-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69934 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 69922 invoked from network); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Glitched-up action in Amadeus demo X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey all, I just downloaded the demo of Amadeus for OS X. I opened it and twiddled around with it for a while and then quit. Later I noticed the following file on my desktop: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/Recording.mp3 Which is a wildly glitched-up version of the Karosta piece I posted here a while ago, even though I didn't even open that piece in Amadeus! Has anyone here had a similar experience with Amadeus creating random remixes of other sound files on your computer? If this is a regular thing, I'm definitely into this program! :-) Phil ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 17 20:59:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32562-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74315 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:59:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 74304 invoked from network); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:59:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:02:57 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Glitched-up action in Amadeus demo To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx what is amadeus? any links? Phil Thomson wrote: > Hey all, > > I just downloaded the demo of Amadeus for OS X. I opened it and twiddled > around with it for a while and then quit. Later I noticed the following > file on my desktop: > > http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/Recording.mp3 > > Which is a wildly glitched-up version of the Karosta piece I posted here a > while ago, even though I didn't even open that piece in Amadeus! Has > anyone here had a similar experience with Amadeus creating random remixes > of other sound files on your computer? If this is a regular thing, I'm > definitely into this program! :-) > > Phil > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > : Phil Thomson > : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > : label: http://centibel.org/ > : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 17 21:32:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32563-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81789 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:32:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 81766 invoked from network); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:32:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:32:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Glitched-up action in Amadeus demo In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.hairersoft.com/Amadeus.html It's just a regular wave editor for OS X, which is why I'm so suprised that it did this without any intevention on my part. > what is amadeus? any links? > > Phil Thomson wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I just downloaded the demo of Amadeus for OS X. I opened it and twiddled >> around with it for a while and then quit. Later I noticed the following >> file on my desktop: >> >> http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/Recording.mp3 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 01:53:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32564-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45908 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 01:53:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 45898 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 01:53:50 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:49:21 +1000 From: Brendan Palmer <xx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] environ deveopments (Melbourne, Australia) In-reply-to: <BD995E0A.BAA0%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD995E41.BAA1%xx@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi all just wanted to let you know that the environ web site is currently developing beyond simply being an online flier and now features audio excerpts from each event held so far... http://www.environline.net also, we're putting a call out for anyone interested in being involved in an event in future. We're currently doing first Sunday's in Melbourne so if you live in melb or you're in this southern town then, or might like to be for the purposes of doing a gig, let me know... That goes for anyone sonic or visual, electronic, acoustic, electric ... minimalist, maximalist... who's willing to work with others unfamiliar... pls send me an email cheers xx@xxxxx.xxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 08:15:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32565-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 04:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 04:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34190 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:15:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 34180 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:15:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:15:02 +0200 (CEST) From: "D. MORATILLA" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] modular touchpanel controller In-reply-to: <BD995E41.BAA1%xx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uXjjpr01PUa0qxRpgM37yw)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_uXjjpr01PUa0qxRpgM37yw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php D. Moratilla xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Games Addiction --------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_uXjjpr01PUa0qxRpgM37yw)-- From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 09:03:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32566-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44211 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:03:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 44199 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:03:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:03:08 +0300 From: Andrey Kiritchenko <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] new cd & mp3 releases on nexsound X-Originating-IP: unknown via proxy tower-s.interami.com [80.249.229.86] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Andrey Kiritchenko <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Comrades! sorry for adv and offtopic essence of this, but, i need to announce these two nice releases on Nexsound: Tom Carter+Vanessa Arn/the Moglass - Snake-Tongued, Swallow-Tailed [CD] Tom Carter (Charalambides) & Vanessa Arn (Primordial Undermind, Gourmet Chef) combined their powers to tap the reverberant waves of the ether on this split release with improv trio from Ukraine - the Moglass. While Carter / Arn part made with lap-steel guitars and triwave picogenerator sounds very soft, cajolingly and tensely at times, the Moglass part sounds more dense and brighter. http://www.nexsound.org/carter_arn_moglass.html Alexei Borisov / Franz Pomassl / Andrey Kiritchenko / Kotra - live in Jaroslavl [mp3] This is a live recording of jam session of Alexei Borisov (N&B research digest), Franz Pomassl (Laton), Andrey Kiritchenko (Nexsound) and Kotra (Nexsound) at Museum of Contemporary Art / Jaroslavl, Russia http://www.nexsound.org/ns29.html hope you enjoy both. - .. - + , , .. +++> - environmental music : http://www.nexsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 13:16:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32567-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39314 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:16:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 39303 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:16:18 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:11:14 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] modular touchpanel controller To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <003101c4b503$30562da0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx D. MORATILLA Points us at; > http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php I also saw that and forwarded the link to a few friends. One of them had seen a demonstration and she reported that it would cost about 2000euro. I still think it looks very good indeed, but good enough for that price? Perhaps, but it´s a lot of money. Kas. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 17:16:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32568-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32443 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:16:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 32432 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:16:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:15:22 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] workshop and concert in Gent To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MVtS1GLoBsUQsZtgfYBDSQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_MVtS1GLoBsUQsZtgfYBDSQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tuesday 02 / 11 â–º Thursday 04 / 11 WORKSHOP: EMERGENT CONTENT CREATION USING SIMPLE GENETIC ALGORITHMS by Kim Cascone Kim Cascone has already established a firm reputation in the world of electronica: highly respected composer who among others worked with artists such as Merzbow and Scanner, founder of two important labels, Silent Records and Anechoic, sound designer for David Lynch’s ‘Twin Peaks’ and ‘Wild At Heart’, … Cascone is fascinated by algorithmic structures that inherently create random accidents during the music production (small sound fragments are being recycled and restructured at random creating new sounds). 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Mon Oct 18 22:20:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32569-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47015 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:20:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 46986 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:20:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:23:29 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] modular touchpanel controller To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <003101c4b503$30562da0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx oh my god - that's sooo cool. i need 10. makes star trek: TNG look pedestrian... g. Kassen wrote: > D. MORATILLA Points us at; > > > http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php > > I also saw that and forwarded the link to a few friends. One of them had > seen a demonstration and she reported that it would cost about 2000euro. I > still think it looks very good indeed, but good enough for that price? > > Perhaps, but it´s a lot of money. > > Kas. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 23:15:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32570-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73395 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:15:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 73384 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:15:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:15:33 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: david sutorus <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] pitch/harmonics to frequencies chart To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: david sutorus <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello, does anyone know where online i can find a chart to show the frequencies of pitches and harmonics of the well-tempered scale? i tried to Google this, but i didn't have much luck... thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 01:50:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32574-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34406 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:49:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 34370 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:49:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:32:27 +0200 From: Kassen <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics, math and perhaps samples too? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002001c4b56a$bc388cc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Phil Thomson notes; > If that doesn't work, I've always heard that middle C is 261.6256 Hz > (given an A of 440). To calculate other frequencies relative to this <snip> Indeed you can do all the math yourself for example because you might need something far off the regular charts or because you abosulutely need to know the 20th decimal for some obscure reason. If that is the case I would always base my calculations on A4 because A4 is supposed to be 440Hz, without any rounding errors. Your middle C is bound to be correct (didn´t check) but a aproximation while 440Hz is supposed to be absolute and thus more suitable to base further calculations on. Apart from the convetion of calling C the beginning I see no advantages of starting with C for math. This is of cource a very minor nit-pick but I thought I´d point it out before anybody started doing a lot of rather boring math. If anybody is dedicated to tuning and has a project where any of this actually matters he probably won´t be using equal tempered tuning; the 20th decimal doesn´t realy matter if everything is ever so slightly out of tune and notes far off the regular scale are bound to be either not very pitch sensitive (in which case it doesn´t matter) or very long (in which case other tunings make a lot more sense). By the way, Is anybody aware of a pitch shifting implementation that can work based on arbitrary tunings? preferably easy to use ones? I´ve done some very minor dabeling in tunings and would love to take it a little further but sample based methods of working generally don´t considder tuning while I think that for extreme time streching tuning becomes very signifficant indeed because beatings will become far more prominent. Since beating chords are at the treshold between the structure of tones and that of the composition I would count these as a part of microsound, yet a quick glance at the index of Roads´s book reveals no trace of this. Any thoughts on this subject would be apreceated as I´ve been facinated by these matters for a while now but am not quite sure how to proceed. Yours, KAs. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 18 23:32:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32571-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80977 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:32:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 80967 invoked from network); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:32:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Walters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics to frequencies chart In-reply-to: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Hostbaby Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx david sutorus wrote: > hello, > > does anyone know where online i can find a chart to show > the frequencies of pitches and harmonics of the well-tempered scale? There are many well-tempered tunings (Werckmeister, Young, etc.). If (as I suspect) you're looking for equal temperament, here's a frequency chart: http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html -- THE DOUBTFUL PALACE Free exquisite music http://www.doubtfulpalace.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Tue Oct 19 01:22:36 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32573-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24826 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:22:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 24786 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:22:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:22:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics to frequencies chart In-reply-to: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > hello, > > does anyone know where online i can find a chart to show > the frequencies of pitches and harmonics of the well-tempered scale? > > i tried to Google this, but i didn't have much luck... > > thanks If you're on OS X, try AudioTools: http://www.anarcasa.com/software/ If that doesn't work, I've always heard that middle C is 261.6256 Hz (given an A of 440). To calculate other frequencies relative to this, take the twelfth root of two to the power of however many semitones are in the interval, so a perfect fifth above C would be the twelfth root of 2 to the power of 7. If you figure out all the frequencies in one octave, you can easily calculate them for other octaves by multiplying/dividing them by 2 (or powers thereof). Likewise, harmonics of these frequencies are just whole-number multiples. But I guess the reason you want to find a chart is so you don't have to do all this. So never mind. Well, there's this: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/music/et.html#c2 and this: http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html Are those not helpful? P ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Phil Thomson : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson : label: http://centibel.org/ : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 02:25:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32575-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46710 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:25:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 46699 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:25:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:24:52 -0700 From: Dave Watson <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics, math and perhaps samples too? In-reply-to: <002001c4b56a$bc388cc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <002001c4b56a$bc388cc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 18, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Kassen wrote: > By the way, Is anybody aware of a pitch shifting implementation that > can > work based on arbitrary tunings? preferably easy to use ones? I´ve > done some > very minor dabeling in tunings and would love to take it a little > further > but sample based methods of working generally don´t considder tuning > while I > think that for extreme time streching tuning becomes very signifficant > indeed because beatings will become far more prominent. Since beating > chords > are at the treshold between the structure of tones and that of the > composition I would count these as a part of microsound, yet a quick > glance > at the index of Roads´s book reveals no trace of this. If whatever you're using to do pitch shifting allows you to set the amount of pitch shifting to occur as a ratio this shouldn't be too difficult. Just use 3/2, 5/4, 9/8 etc. as the ratio. If there is a tune knob that lets you adjust the shifting in terms of cents that would also work. Zero cents is the tonic, 204 cents is 9/8, 386 cents is 5/4, 702 cents would be 3/2. The more consonant of the equal tempered tones aren't off by very much, perfect fifth (702) cents is just barely sharp. The 5/3 A on the other hand (all of this is assuming C as 1/1) is quite flat, being 16 cents flat. I suspect most samplers don't give major consideration to letting you choose an arbitrary tuning because they expect most to probably play them from a 12tet keyboard. As well, in some tunings the pitch of E in the key of A would be a different pitch (sharp with respect to 12tet) than the E (flat w/ respect to 12tet) in the key of C. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 03:37:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32576-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69809 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:36:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 69799 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:36:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:34:04 -0400 From: Michal Seta <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics, math and perhaps samples too? In-reply-to: <002001c4b56a$bc388cc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Lines: 23 References: <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <002001c4b56a$bc388cc0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx "Kassen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> writes: > Indeed you can do all the math yourself for example because you might need > something far off the regular charts or because you abosulutely need to know > the 20th decimal for some obscure reason. If that is the case I would always > base my calculations on A4 because A4 is supposed to be 440Hz, without any > rounding errors. Or because you want to compose a tape part for a baroque instruments ensemble and the musicians will not want to tune up from 415Hz. The charts will not be of much help there. > By the way, Is anybody aware of a pitch shifting implementation that can > work based on arbitrary tunings? pdjimmies (for Pure Data) (and Jimmies for Max/MSP, I'd assume) use a frequency shifter that lets you tune in cents by default. Available here: http://tot.sat.qc.ca/eng/nslam.html The frequency shifter implementation uses variable delay line, may not be what you're looking for... ../MiS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 06:06:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32577-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5330 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:06:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 5320 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:06:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim sprikut <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] AC.18 - Chicago 10/24/04 - Brent Gutzeit, Jake Elliott To: xxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx crossposted... AC.18 Please join us for the fall series of AC events. These performances feature improvised electroacoustic music in a comfortable, intimate setting, designed to encourage active listening. We have relocated so please take note of the new address. 10/24/04, Sunday, 7pm: _Brent Gutzeit _Jake Elliott (Jake will also be presenting a visual component) Since this is a private residence, you *must* RSVP to attend. Show starts at 7pm. Free, donations welcome. Refreshments provided. The Den 1349 N. Washtenaw #1F Chicago IL 60622 Please e-mail xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx or call 773.394.2906 for an RSVP or for more information. Other dates in this series: 11/7 (tba) and 11/21 (aram shelton), more details to follow. v' _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Tue Oct 19 06:16:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32578-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7495 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:16:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 7482 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:16:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:16:20 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Convolution, resonance and data sonification In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx On Oct 16, 2004, at 12:30 AM, Scott Carver wrote: >> data sonification (in the sense of converting arbitrary data files >> (image, text, video) into sound by means of file format hacking; >> i.e., data-bending) > Actually, if you find any particularly interesting works based on data > sonification, I would love to hear about them. There would be some such material showing up on ruccas.org next Monday. - John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 06:33:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32579-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11357 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:33:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 11344 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:33:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:32:57 -0700 From: GrahamWakefield <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics, math and perhaps samples too? In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xx> To: "microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9A0329.1533%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Max/MSP 4.5 has a very simple object called gizmo~, which is a FFT based pitch shifter; the help file lets you specify the tuning as a floating-point midinote, ie you can use any tuning system you care to build... So no need for Jimmies if you can't afford them. On 18/10/04 8:34 pm, "Michal Seta" <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > "Kassen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx> writes: > >> Indeed you can do all the math yourself for example because you might need >> something far off the regular charts or because you abosulutely need to know >> the 20th decimal for some obscure reason. If that is the case I would always >> base my calculations on A4 because A4 is supposed to be 440Hz, without any >> rounding errors. > > Or because you want to compose a tape part for a baroque instruments > ensemble and the musicians will not want to tune up from 415Hz. The > charts will not be of much help there. > >> By the way, Is anybody aware of a pitch shifting implementation that can >> work based on arbitrary tunings? > > pdjimmies (for Pure Data) (and Jimmies for Max/MSP, I'd assume) use a > frequency shifter that lets you tune in cents by default. Available > here: http://tot.sat.qc.ca/eng/nslam.html > > The frequency shifter implementation uses variable delay line, may not > be what you're looking for... > > ./MiS > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 14:00:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32580-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26573 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:00:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 26561 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:00:05 +0000 X-Received: from config17 by 66.73.80.70 with HTTP id 29198020 for xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:58:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:58:01 +0200 From: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_[microsound]_modular_touchpanel__controller?= To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?microsound?= <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Binford: 6100 (more power) X-Originating-From: 29198020 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx That haven't seen anything that awsome in a ......long time. It makes star trek look like cave men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 17:57:29 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32581-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29158 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:57:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 29144 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:57:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:56:05 -0400 From: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Spectrographic views Sender: Thomas Ashcraft <xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxx-x-xxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx October 19, 2004 Dear Micro-sounders, I am writing to the list since I know some of you are intricate sound experts and also may have unique ways of looking at or interpreting phenomena. I put up a webpage that I am aiming at SETI folks and Cellular Automata researchers and anyone else in hopes that they might look at jovian radio emissions with their own special techniques and instruments. My question is whether the posted recording and spectrographs are showing processing artifacts...like digitization......or possibly some other phenomena? I am not an expert at spectrographing. See http://www.heliotown.com/Jupiter_Pulse_&_Power.html then navigate to the SETI page. (This page might load slow at 56k...sorry about that....I opted for larger screen images for more detail.) Any comments, grammar corrections and whatever are welcome. Thank you. Thomas Ashcraft .. .. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 20:40:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32582-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15034 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:40:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 15024 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:40:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:40:37 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics, math and perhaps samples too? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <015401c4b61b$e3cd20a0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD9A0329.1533%xxxxxx@xxxxxxx-xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For what worth it can have in a forum for electronic music: lot's of orchestral work has A4 tuned to 442 Hz. /Björn Eriksson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 19 21:50:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32583-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55757 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:50:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 55745 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:50:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:50:39 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] TWiki - RingTones To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <01b001c4b625$ac9a6020$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Tried to upload a ringtone mp3-file as attachment to the TWiki page. 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Tue Oct 19 22:39:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32584-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 79360 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:39:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 79348 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:39:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:39:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 20/10/2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ONDA SONORA (Radio Sesiones Experimentales), Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM Miércoles/Wednesday 15h www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM Ma-Ju / Tu-Th 16h www.uam.es/ra2 Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 20/10/2004 01. AXOLOTL Track: 3 Album: S/t Label: Psycho-Path Abrimos el programa de esta semana con un par de novedades del sello norteamericano Psycho-Path. En primer lugar, vamos a escuchar un proyecto llamado Axolotl, iniciado por Karl Bauer tras mudarse de Nueva York a San Francisco y tras encontrar a dos compañeros comprometidos, William Sabiston y Brian Tester, con quienes ha grabado los siete cortes que componen su disco de debut, un álbum que vienen presentando desde hace unos meses en concierto junto a bandas relacionadas con el grupo, como Black Dice, Animal Collective o Thuja We open this week's session with some novelties from the U.S. label Psycho-Path. First, a project called Axolotl, started by Karl Bauer after moving from New York to San Francisco and finding two committed partners: William Sabiston and Brian Tester, with who he recorded the seven tracks that constitute their debut, an album they've been presenting for some months in concert together with related bands such as Black Dice, Animal Collective or Thuja 02. TERRESTRIAL TONES Track: Heavy Angel Album: Blasted Label: Psycho-Path Continuamos en el sello Psycho-Path, ahora con un nuevo proyecto de nuevo relacionado con la escena noise de la costa este norteamericana. Se trata de una propuesta casera a cargo de dos compañeros de piso, Dave Portner de Animal Collective y Eric Copeland de Black Dice, cuyo debut, este "Blasted", se alarga poco más allá de 30 minutos We continue in the Psycho-Path label, now with a new project related again with the noise scene of the North American Eastern coast. It is a homemade proposal composed by two appartment partners, Dave Portner of Animal Collective and Eric Copeland of Black Dice, whose debut -" Blasted "- extends a little beyond 30 minutes 03. BRENT GUTZEIT Track: Day in Heaven Album: Heaven Underground cd-r Label: Muet Organization Continuamos en los Estados Unidos aunque nos trasladamos en este caso a otro de los epicentros del noise en Norteamérica: Michigan, donde se encuentran las nuevas oficinas del sello Muet Organization, que recientemente publicaba el nuevo disco de Brent Gutzeit, un músico experimental de Chicago cuyos últimos trabajos editaba el sello Kranky We continue in the United States but moving in this case to another of the noise music epicentres in North America: Michigan, where the new offices of the Muet Organization are, that recently released Brent Gutzeit's new cd, an experimental musician from Chicago whose last works were released by the Kranky label 04. PHILIP JECK & JANEK SCHAEFER Track: Kerameikos Album: Songs for Europe LABEL: Asphodel Proyecto conjunto del australiano Philip Jeck y el británico Janek Schaefer, desarrollado hace unos meses a caballo entre Estambul y Atenas: "Songs for Europe", un trabajo que parte del material sonoro local, de antiguos vinilos a emisiones de radio, y que edita el sello de San Francisco Asphodel Combined project of the Australian Philip Jeck and the British Janek Schaefer, that has been developed for some months between Istanbul and Athens: "Songs for Europe", a work that departures from some local sound material, including old vinyls and radio broadcasts, released in the San Francisco label Asphodel 05. EDWIN VAN DER HEIDE Track: - Album: tbc (3"CDR) Label: Alku CD Rom de 3" que incluye una pieza de audio a cargo de Edwin van der Heide, un artista y músico electrónico holandés cuyo trabajo es difícil de encasillar, desde instalaciones audiovisuales a producciones ajenas pasando por sus propios discos, como este que edita el sello barcelonés Alku A 3" CD Rom including an audio piece by Edwin Van Der Heide , a Dutch artist and electronic musician whose work is difficult to classify, from audiovisual installations to other artists' productions and of course his own works, as this released in the Barcelona label Alku 06. NON Track: Extract 5 ALBUM: Terra Incognita, 1975-Present LABEL: Mute La compañía Mute edita una compilación de Ambient Works a cargo de Boyd Rice, Non, un pionero del noise desde que en 1975 publicara su "Black Album" hasta el presente, este disco, "Terra Incognita", grabado con la colaboración en un par de cortes de su amigo Frank Tovey de Fad Gadget The Mute company releases this Ambient Works compilation by Boyd Rice, Non, a pioneer in experimental noise since his appearance in 1975 with his "Black Álbum" until the present, this cd, "Terra Incognita", recorded with the collaboration in a couple of tracks of his friend Frank Tovey (Fad Gadget) 07. ANTMANUV Track: Magnetic Field Lines Album: Magnetic Field LABEL: Antmanuv Artista portugués residente en Canadá, interesado en la exploración de las relaciones entre los medios acústico, visual y el entorno arquitectónico en el que se desarrollan las obras. Suena un extracto de "Magnetic Field", su último trabajo editado a través de su propio sello Portuguese artist residing in Canada, interested in the exploration of the relationships between the acoustic and visual means and the architectural environment in which the works are developed. We listen to an extract of "Magnetic Field", his last work released in his own imprint 08. RE: Track: Orientalism as a Humanism Album: Alms Label: Constellation Aún en canadá, segundo trabajo para una de las bandas que componen el catálogo del sello Constellation, el dúo Re:, formado por Aden Evens y Ian Ilavsky en 1996, investigando sobre micro-grabaciones de resonancias metálicas e improvisaciones crudas Still in canadá, second work for one of the bands in the roster of the Constellation label, the duet Re:, formed by Aden Evens and Ian Ilavsky in 1996, investigating on micro-recordings of metallic resonances and raw improvisations 09. GORGE TRIO MEETS A SHORT APNEA Track: Part 7 Album: ...Just Arrived Label: Wallace Esta obra, "...Just Arrived" se grabó a lo largo de sólo tres días de improvisaciones en Milán hace ahora tres años, aunque hasta este momento no había sido editada para disfrute público. Se trata de la colaboración entre el Gorge Trio, formación superviviente de las cenizas de Colossamite cuyos activos miembros participan en diversos proyectos como Deerhoof o The Flying Luttenbachers, y el combo italiano A Short Apnea, difuminando los límites del free jazz y la vanguardia contemporánea desde los años 80 This work, "...Just Arrived" was recorded in only three days of improvisations in Milan now three years ago, although until this moment it hasn't been released. It is a collaboration between the Gorge Trio, a formation surviving the ashes of Colossamite, whose active members participate in diverse projects like Deerhoof or The Flying Luttenbachers, and the Italian combo A Short Apnea, blurring the limits of free jazz and contemporary avant-garde from the 80s 10. FOURCOLOR Track: Empty Sky 1 Album: Air Curtain Label: 12k Hoy nos despedimos con lo último que ha editado el sello 12k, dirigido por Taylor Deupree desde Nueva York. Si bien conocíamos previamente a Keiichi Sugimoto por sus trabajos al frente del cuarteto electroacústico Minamo y el dúo más electrónico Fonica, Fourcolor es su proyecto en solitario, estrenado este mismo año con un interesante debut en el también neoyorkino sello Apestaartje y cuya continuación es este Air Curtain que publica 12k Last release of the 12k label, managed by Taylor Deupree from New York. Although we knew previously Keiichi Sugimoto for his previous works in the electroacoustic quartet Minamo and the electronic duet Fonica, Fourcolor is his solo project, started for the first time this year with an interesting debut in the also new yorker Apestaartje label, and whose continuation is this "Air Curtain" that releases 12k ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡100 MB GRATIS! 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Tue Oct 19 22:40:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32585-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81143 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:40:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 81132 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:40:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:40:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Contents Onda Sonora 20/10/2004 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ONDA SONORA (Radio Sesiones Experimentales), Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM Miércoles/Wednesday 15h www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM Ma-Ju / Tu-Th 16h www.uam.es/ra2 Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 20/10/2004 01. AXOLOTL Track: 3 Album: S/t Label: Psycho-Path Abrimos el programa de esta semana con un par de novedades del sello norteamericano Psycho-Path. En primer lugar, vamos a escuchar un proyecto llamado Axolotl, iniciado por Karl Bauer tras mudarse de Nueva York a San Francisco y tras encontrar a dos compañeros comprometidos, William Sabiston y Brian Tester, con quienes ha grabado los siete cortes que componen su disco de debut, un álbum que vienen presentando desde hace unos meses en concierto junto a bandas relacionadas con el grupo, como Black Dice, Animal Collective o Thuja We open this week's session with some novelties from the U.S. label Psycho-Path. First, a project called Axolotl, started by Karl Bauer after moving from New York to San Francisco and finding two committed partners: William Sabiston and Brian Tester, with who he recorded the seven tracks that constitute their debut, an album they've been presenting for some months in concert together with related bands such as Black Dice, Animal Collective or Thuja 02. TERRESTRIAL TONES Track: Heavy Angel Album: Blasted Label: Psycho-Path Continuamos en el sello Psycho-Path, ahora con un nuevo proyecto de nuevo relacionado con la escena noise de la costa este norteamericana. Se trata de una propuesta casera a cargo de dos compañeros de piso, Dave Portner de Animal Collective y Eric Copeland de Black Dice, cuyo debut, este "Blasted", se alarga poco más allá de 30 minutos We continue in the Psycho-Path label, now with a new project related again with the noise scene of the North American Eastern coast. It is a homemade proposal composed by two appartment partners, Dave Portner of Animal Collective and Eric Copeland of Black Dice, whose debut -" Blasted "- extends a little beyond 30 minutes 03. BRENT GUTZEIT Track: Day in Heaven Album: Heaven Underground cd-r Label: Muet Organization Continuamos en los Estados Unidos aunque nos trasladamos en este caso a otro de los epicentros del noise en Norteamérica: Michigan, donde se encuentran las nuevas oficinas del sello Muet Organization, que recientemente publicaba el nuevo disco de Brent Gutzeit, un músico experimental de Chicago cuyos últimos trabajos editaba el sello Kranky We continue in the United States but moving in this case to another of the noise music epicentres in North America: Michigan, where the new offices of the Muet Organization are, that recently released Brent Gutzeit's new cd, an experimental musician from Chicago whose last works were released by the Kranky label 04. PHILIP JECK & JANEK SCHAEFER Track: Kerameikos Album: Songs for Europe LABEL: Asphodel Proyecto conjunto del australiano Philip Jeck y el británico Janek Schaefer, desarrollado hace unos meses a caballo entre Estambul y Atenas: "Songs for Europe", un trabajo que parte del material sonoro local, de antiguos vinilos a emisiones de radio, y que edita el sello de San Francisco Asphodel Combined project of the Australian Philip Jeck and the British Janek Schaefer, that has been developed for some months between Istanbul and Athens: "Songs for Europe", a work that departures from some local sound material, including old vinyls and radio broadcasts, released in the San Francisco label Asphodel 05. EDWIN VAN DER HEIDE Track: - Album: tbc (3"CDR) Label: Alku CD Rom de 3" que incluye una pieza de audio a cargo de Edwin van der Heide, un artista y músico electrónico holandés cuyo trabajo es difícil de encasillar, desde instalaciones audiovisuales a producciones ajenas pasando por sus propios discos, como este que edita el sello barcelonés Alku A 3" CD Rom including an audio piece by Edwin Van Der Heide , a Dutch artist and electronic musician whose work is difficult to classify, from audiovisual installations to other artists' productions and of course his own works, as this released in the Barcelona label Alku 06. NON Track: Extract 5 ALBUM: Terra Incognita, 1975-Present LABEL: Mute La compañía Mute edita una compilación de Ambient Works a cargo de Boyd Rice, Non, un pionero del noise desde que en 1975 publicara su "Black Album" hasta el presente, este disco, "Terra Incognita", grabado con la colaboración en un par de cortes de su amigo Frank Tovey de Fad Gadget The Mute company releases this Ambient Works compilation by Boyd Rice, Non, a pioneer in experimental noise since his appearance in 1975 with his "Black Álbum" until the present, this cd, "Terra Incognita", recorded with the collaboration in a couple of tracks of his friend Frank Tovey (Fad Gadget) 07. ANTMANUV Track: Magnetic Field Lines Album: Magnetic Field LABEL: Antmanuv Artista portugués residente en Canadá, interesado en la exploración de las relaciones entre los medios acústico, visual y el entorno arquitectónico en el que se desarrollan las obras. Suena un extracto de "Magnetic Field", su último trabajo editado a través de su propio sello Portuguese artist residing in Canada, interested in the exploration of the relationships between the acoustic and visual means and the architectural environment in which the works are developed. We listen to an extract of "Magnetic Field", his last work released in his own imprint 08. RE: Track: Orientalism as a Humanism Album: Alms Label: Constellation Aún en canadá, segundo trabajo para una de las bandas que componen el catálogo del sello Constellation, el dúo Re:, formado por Aden Evens y Ian Ilavsky en 1996, investigando sobre micro-grabaciones de resonancias metálicas e improvisaciones crudas Still in canadá, second work for one of the bands in the roster of the Constellation label, the duet Re:, formed by Aden Evens and Ian Ilavsky in 1996, investigating on micro-recordings of metallic resonances and raw improvisations 09. GORGE TRIO MEETS A SHORT APNEA Track: Part 7 Album: ...Just Arrived Label: Wallace Esta obra, "...Just Arrived" se grabó a lo largo de sólo tres días de improvisaciones en Milán hace ahora tres años, aunque hasta este momento no había sido editada para disfrute público. Se trata de la colaboración entre el Gorge Trio, formación superviviente de las cenizas de Colossamite cuyos activos miembros participan en diversos proyectos como Deerhoof o The Flying Luttenbachers, y el combo italiano A Short Apnea, difuminando los límites del free jazz y la vanguardia contemporánea desde los años 80 This work, "...Just Arrived" was recorded in only three days of improvisations in Milan now three years ago, although until this moment it hasn't been released. It is a collaboration between the Gorge Trio, a formation surviving the ashes of Colossamite, whose active members participate in diverse projects like Deerhoof or The Flying Luttenbachers, and the Italian combo A Short Apnea, blurring the limits of free jazz and contemporary avant-garde from the 80s 10. FOURCOLOR Track: Empty Sky 1 Album: Air Curtain Label: 12k Hoy nos despedimos con lo último que ha editado el sello 12k, dirigido por Taylor Deupree desde Nueva York. Si bien conocíamos previamente a Keiichi Sugimoto por sus trabajos al frente del cuarteto electroacústico Minamo y el dúo más electrónico Fonica, Fourcolor es su proyecto en solitario, estrenado este mismo año con un interesante debut en el también neoyorkino sello Apestaartje y cuya continuación es este Air Curtain que publica 12k Last release of the 12k label, managed by Taylor Deupree from New York. Although we knew previously Keiichi Sugimoto for his previous works in the electroacoustic quartet Minamo and the electronic duet Fonica, Fourcolor is his solo project, started for the first time this year with an interesting debut in the also new yorker Apestaartje label, and whose continuation is this "Air Curtain" that releases 12k ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡100 MB GRATIS! 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Tue Oct 19 23:17:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32586-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98139 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:17:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 98129 invoked from network); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:17:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:16:38 -0500 From: "Robair, Gino" <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] November 10: SpoetryFest 04, Oakland, CA To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-topic: microsound Digest 13 Oct 2004 20:34:13 -0000 Issue 1274 Thread-index: AcSxZD+amMS3sITpQNmIT69DwDKsSgEyyr2z Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2004 23:16:38.0375 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF4A4770:01C4B631] Hey folks, > November 10, 2004 is that date of the first annual SpoetryFest, which will take place at 21 Grand, in Oakland CA. Consider this a call for proposals. Wanted are readers, musicians, and visual and computer artists to participate using spam as the primary source material. > Please send your proposals to: spoetry at rastascan.com, with "spoetryfest" in the subject line. Unfortunately, we are unable to offer a fee other than splitting the door-take amongst the participants, so keep that in mind. But if you will be in the Bay Area and want to participate, please let me know. Video projectors for laptoppers will probably be available as needed. If you haven't checked out the Spoetry Collectors yahoo group, you can visit it at groups.yahoo.com/group/spoetrycollectors Thanks, ginorobair --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 04:54:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32587-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42292 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:54:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 42282 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 04:54:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] arpanet In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_IG/4pEp7irbewCAs1nMLtA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_IG/4pEp7irbewCAs1nMLtA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit greetings. just rocked arpanet. function of drexciya. this is very good music. interested in conversing with fans. i'm new to microsound. havent explored the community too much, though this seems nice. cheers b. Onda Sonora Radio <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> wrote: ONDA SONORA (Radio Sesiones Experimentales), Madrid (ES) Radio Círculo de Bellas Artes 100.4 FM Miércoles/Wednesday 15h www.circulobellasartes.com Radio Autónoma 88.8 FM Ma-Ju / Tu-Th 16h www.uam.es/ra2 Escucha en directo a cualquier hora / Listen live real time www.ondasonoraradio.com _________________________________ CONTENIDOS ONDA SONORA 20/10/2004 01. AXOLOTL Track: 3 Album: S/t Label: Psycho-Path Abrimos el programa de esta semana con un par de novedades del sello norteamericano Psycho-Path. En primer lugar, vamos a escuchar un proyecto llamado Axolotl, iniciado por Karl Bauer tras mudarse de Nueva York a San Francisco y tras encontrar a dos compañeros comprometidos, William Sabiston y Brian Tester, con quienes ha grabado los siete cortes que componen su disco de debut, un álbum que vienen presentando desde hace unos meses en concierto junto a bandas relacionadas con el grupo, como Black Dice, Animal Collective o Thuja We open this week's session with some novelties from the U.S. label Psycho-Path. First, a project called Axolotl, started by Karl Bauer after moving from New York to San Francisco and finding two committed partners: William Sabiston and Brian Tester, with who he recorded the seven tracks that constitute their debut, an album they've been presenting for some months in concert together with related bands such as Black Dice, Animal Collective or Thuja 02. TERRESTRIAL TONES Track: Heavy Angel Album: Blasted Label: Psycho-Path Continuamos en el sello Psycho-Path, ahora con un nuevo proyecto de nuevo relacionado con la escena noise de la costa este norteamericana. Se trata de una propuesta casera a cargo de dos compañeros de piso, Dave Portner de Animal Collective y Eric Copeland de Black Dice, cuyo debut, este "Blasted", se alarga poco más allá de 30 minutos We continue in the Psycho-Path label, now with a new project related again with the noise scene of the North American Eastern coast. It is a homemade proposal composed by two appartment partners, Dave Portner of Animal Collective and Eric Copeland of Black Dice, whose debut -" Blasted "- extends a little beyond 30 minutes 03. BRENT GUTZEIT Track: Day in Heaven Album: Heaven Underground cd-r Label: Muet Organization Continuamos en los Estados Unidos aunque nos trasladamos en este caso a otro de los epicentros del noise en Norteamérica: Michigan, donde se encuentran las nuevas oficinas del sello Muet Organization, que recientemente publicaba el nuevo disco de Brent Gutzeit, un músico experimental de Chicago cuyos últimos trabajos editaba el sello Kranky We continue in the United States but moving in this case to another of the noise music epicentres in North America: Michigan, where the new offices of the Muet Organization are, that recently released Brent Gutzeit's new cd, an experimental musician from Chicago whose last works were released by the Kranky label 04. PHILIP JECK & JANEK SCHAEFER Track: Kerameikos Album: Songs for Europe LABEL: Asphodel Proyecto conjunto del australiano Philip Jeck y el británico Janek Schaefer, desarrollado hace unos meses a caballo entre Estambul y Atenas: "Songs for Europe", un trabajo que parte del material sonoro local, de antiguos vinilos a emisiones de radio, y que edita el sello de San Francisco Asphodel Combined project of the Australian Philip Jeck and the British Janek Schaefer, that has been developed for some months between Istanbul and Athens: "Songs for Europe", a work that departures from some local sound material, including old vinyls and radio broadcasts, released in the San Francisco label Asphodel 05. EDWIN VAN DER HEIDE Track: - Album: tbc (3"CDR) Label: Alku CD Rom de 3" que incluye una pieza de audio a cargo de Edwin van der Heide, un artista y músico electrónico holandés cuyo trabajo es difícil de encasillar, desde instalaciones audiovisuales a producciones ajenas pasando por sus propios discos, como este que edita el sello barcelonés Alku A 3" CD Rom including an audio piece by Edwin Van Der Heide , a Dutch artist and electronic musician whose work is difficult to classify, from audiovisual installations to other artists' productions and of course his own works, as this released in the Barcelona label Alku 06. NON Track: Extract 5 ALBUM: Terra Incognita, 1975-Present LABEL: Mute La compañía Mute edita una compilación de Ambient Works a cargo de Boyd Rice, Non, un pionero del noise desde que en 1975 publicara su "Black Album" hasta el presente, este disco, "Terra Incognita", grabado con la colaboración en un par de cortes de su amigo Frank Tovey de Fad Gadget The Mute company releases this Ambient Works compilation by Boyd Rice, Non, a pioneer in experimental noise since his appearance in 1975 with his "Black Álbum" until the present, this cd, "Terra Incognita", recorded with the collaboration in a couple of tracks of his friend Frank Tovey (Fad Gadget) 07. ANTMANUV Track: Magnetic Field Lines Album: Magnetic Field LABEL: Antmanuv Artista portugués residente en Canadá, interesado en la exploración de las relaciones entre los medios acústico, visual y el entorno arquitectónico en el que se desarrollan las obras. Suena un extracto de "Magnetic Field", su último trabajo editado a través de su propio sello Portuguese artist residing in Canada, interested in the exploration of the relationships between the acoustic and visual means and the architectural environment in which the works are developed. We listen to an extract of "Magnetic Field", his last work released in his own imprint 08. RE: Track: Orientalism as a Humanism Album: Alms Label: Constellation Aún en canadá, segundo trabajo para una de las bandas que componen el catálogo del sello Constellation, el dúo Re:, formado por Aden Evens y Ian Ilavsky en 1996, investigando sobre micro-grabaciones de resonancias metálicas e improvisaciones crudas Still in canadá, second work for one of the bands in the roster of the Constellation label, the duet Re:, formed by Aden Evens and Ian Ilavsky in 1996, investigating on micro-recordings of metallic resonances and raw improvisations 09. GORGE TRIO MEETS A SHORT APNEA Track: Part 7 Album: ...Just Arrived Label: Wallace Esta obra, "...Just Arrived" se grabó a lo largo de sólo tres días de improvisaciones en Milán hace ahora tres años, aunque hasta este momento no había sido editada para disfrute público. Se trata de la colaboración entre el Gorge Trio, formación superviviente de las cenizas de Colossamite cuyos activos miembros participan en diversos proyectos como Deerhoof o The Flying Luttenbachers, y el combo italiano A Short Apnea, difuminando los límites del free jazz y la vanguardia contemporánea desde los años 80 This work, "...Just Arrived" was recorded in only three days of improvisations in Milan now three years ago, although until this moment it hasn't been released. It is a collaboration between the Gorge Trio, a formation surviving the ashes of Colossamite, whose active members participate in diverse projects like Deerhoof or The Flying Luttenbachers, and the Italian combo A Short Apnea, blurring the limits of free jazz and contemporary avant-garde from the 80s 10. FOURCOLOR Track: Empty Sky 1 Album: Air Curtain Label: 12k Hoy nos despedimos con lo último que ha editado el sello 12k, dirigido por Taylor Deupree desde Nueva York. Si bien conocíamos previamente a Keiichi Sugimoto por sus trabajos al frente del cuarteto electroacústico Minamo y el dúo más electrónico Fonica, Fourcolor es su proyecto en solitario, estrenado este mismo año con un interesante debut en el también neoyorkino sello Apestaartje y cuya continuación es este Air Curtain que publica 12k Last release of the 12k label, managed by Taylor Deupree from New York. Although we knew previously Keiichi Sugimoto for his previous works in the electroacoustic quartet Minamo and the electronic duet Fonica, Fourcolor is his solo project, started for the first time this year with an interesting debut in the also new yorker Apestaartje label, and whose continuation is this "Air Curtain" that releases 12k ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. If that’s not the case, then reply us with this subject for the message: "delete me", and you will be inmediately out from the mailing. Thank you ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡100 MB GRATIS! 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Wed Oct 20 05:08:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32588-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47514 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 05:08:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 47504 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 05:08:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:08:17 -0700 (PDT) From: jake elliott <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Glitched-up action in Amadeus demo In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sounds great! i've never had that issue with amadeus, unfortunately. it is a very nice and diverse audio editor, though. it's been my favorite since i switched to the mac. it can be quite buggy and unpredictable when dealing with large files, which may or may not have been involved in your situation. eric leonardson gave a performance on my program ( http://structuredsound.net/ssw/live.html ) in january using amadeus, cassette players and miscellaneous electronics. it seems right now that audacity is the new king of free/cheap audio editors. i hadn't checked in on it in awhile, but it now includes support for plug-ins coded in the extraordinarily accessible Nyquist language from cmu. great stuff! best, jake --- Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Hey all, > > I just downloaded the demo of Amadeus for OS X. I > opened it and twiddled > around with it for a while and then quit. Later I > noticed the following > file on my desktop: > > http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson/Recording.mp3 > > Which is a wildly glitched-up version of the Karosta > piece I posted here a > while ago, even though I didn't even open that piece > in Amadeus! Has > anyone here had a similar experience with Amadeus > creating random remixes > of other sound files on your computer? If this is a > regular thing, I'm > definitely into this program! :-) > > Phil > > > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > : Phil Thomson > : home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > : label: http://centibel.org/ > : group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 12:09:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32589-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57921 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:09:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 57910 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:09:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:13:13 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] TWiki - RingTones In-reply-to: <01b001c4b625$ac9a6020$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <01b001c4b625$ac9a6020$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.10.19 23:50 +0200 ) Björn Eriksson: > Tried to upload a ringtone mp3-file as attachment to the TWiki page. The > file was around 314 kB. This did not work. I tried three times. hmm ... [marge simpson growl] i'll take a look. -- \js "`&&):`<: ~/`(? http://or8.net/~johns iraq body count: 13,278 [min] 15,357 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 12:30:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32590-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63958 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:30:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 63948 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:30:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:30:14 -0400 From: Ben Neill <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] pitch/harmonics to frequencies chart To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > hello, > > does anyone know where online i can find a chart to show > the frequencies of pitches and harmonics of the well-tempered scale? The book "On the Sensations of Tone" by Hermann Helmholtz has detailed tables of the information you need. Ben Neill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 15:54:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32591-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56465 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:54:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 56455 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:54:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:41:15 +0200 From: Dino Lupelli <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Club Pop futurista in Italy To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9C53BB.CAF4%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Sorry for the crosspotting ELETTROWAVE ::::::::::::::::: is proud to introduce...... a new club in Italy! POCO MONO Varietà elettronico Every friday "modernissime attrazioni internazionali propongono suoni, luci e spettacoli di arte varia realizzati con strumenti meccanici ed elettronici" from POCO MONO, manifesto POP/FUTURISTA! Fri. 22 – october - 2004 U.D.O. Unidentified Dj’s Orchestra Alex Cirillo aka Dj Lillo (decks and mechanics) Shirley Sample aka Tuppy B (handmade sampling) Dino Lupelli (intro and computers) Quartiere Libertà (visuals) Very special event for the opening, extra saturday night ... Sat. 23 – oct - 2004 RICHARD DORFMEISTER (dj set) Madrid de Los Austrias (dj set) Shibuya Sound (dj set) in cooperation with Bass Culture www.bassculture.it Produced by ZENZERO, CLUB - Bari . Italy art direction, Dino Lupelli, Club 4 www.zenzeroclub.it Zenzero Club, Bari traversa Colletta (prolungamento viale Pasteur) Info 0039.80.579.31.45 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 16:06:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32592-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65289 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:06:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 65279 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:06:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:05:59 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Merzbow/Cascone performance in Amsterdam To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Monday Oct 25 Theater Frascati Amsterdam.NL street address: Nes 63 time: 20.30 telephone for info: (Frascati) 020 626 6866 or (STEIM) 020 622 8690 web info: http://nestheaters.nl/v3/index.php?key=2004-146 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 16:12:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32593-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70516 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:11:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 70506 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:11:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:09:48 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for October 13, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/10/13 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Paul Newman > Open House > Symmetry Part 1-6 > Symmetry > independent > > > > trio X > Rapture > Rapture > Cadence > > > > P.Michalowski/M.Khoury > Tauton > Babardah > Abzu Recordings > > > > Eight Bold Souls > Box Canyon > Light on the Path > Sound Aspects > > > > A.Doerner/G.Kelley/A.Neumann/B.Rainey > part 3 > Thanks Cash > Sedimental Records > > > > Eddie Prevost/John Tilbury > S > Discrete Moments > Matchless Recordings > > > > Ernst Thoma/Birgit Ulher > Orangered > Slants > Unit Records > > > > Kim Cascone > Dustnumerals > Blackcube() > Anechoicmedia > > > > Sakada > Never Give Up On The Margins of Logic > Never Give Up On The Margins of Logic > Antiopic Live series > > > > Janek Schaefer > Room 3 > Cold Storage > DSP Recordings > > > > Christian Marclay > New York August 21 > 2003 > DJ Trio > Asphodel Ltd. > > > > G.Muller/.T.Nakamura/Erikm > Cable > Why Not Bechamel > For 4 Ears Records > > > > Sawtooth > Red in a Translucent World > Celluliod Dreams > Incidental > > > > Motion Ensemble > John Cage Variations 2 > w/ Lecture on Nothing > excerpt Varations 1-3 > Mode Records > > > > Janet Cardiff > The Missing Voice > Haunted Weather > Staubgold > > > > Bernard Gal > Gigrlana > Hinaus: In Den, Wald > Klangalerie > > > > Bill Dixon > I see Your Fancy Footwork 2 > Collection > Cadence Jazz > > > > iks > Desert Flower > abstcncr > Ora Productions > > > > Relay Signals > Dark green,Bright Red > Relay Signal > Lucky Kitchen > > > > Babardah > Rathi > Babardah > Abzu Recordings > > > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 16:25:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32594-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77885 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:23:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 77874 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:23:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:09:48 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] CKLN FM's Whynot Jazz playlist for October 13, 2004 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > > Dear Artist and Label > > Welcome to the radio program Whynot Jazz on Toronto's CKLN FM 88.1. > Heard Every Wednesday Morning from 7am-11am est, 1pm thru most of > Europe and noon in the UK. Available around the world at: > > www.ckln.fm > > Here is the playlist from the last Whynot Jazz Program. Please note > that radio program, hosted by Mike Hansen, takes an outside > examination of new improvised and jazz musics. Whynotjazz is one of > the very few voices for progessive new music heard in Toronto or > around the world. > > Why Not? > 2004/10/13 > > > Artist > Song Title > Album Title > Label > > > > Paul Newman > Open House > Symmetry Part 1-6 > Symmetry > independent > > > > trio X > Rapture > Rapture > Cadence > > > > P.Michalowski/M.Khoury > Tauton > Babardah > Abzu Recordings > > > > Eight Bold Souls > Box Canyon > Light on the Path > Sound Aspects > > > > A.Doerner/G.Kelley/A.Neumann/B.Rainey > part 3 > Thanks Cash > Sedimental Records > > > > Eddie Prevost/John Tilbury > S > Discrete Moments > Matchless Recordings > > > > Ernst Thoma/Birgit Ulher > Orangered > Slants > Unit Records > > > > Kim Cascone > Dustnumerals > Blackcube() > Anechoicmedia > > > > Sakada > Never Give Up On The Margins of Logic > Never Give Up On The Margins of Logic > Antiopic Live series > > > > Janek Schaefer > Room 3 > Cold Storage > DSP Recordings > > > > Christian Marclay > New York August 21 > 2003 > DJ Trio > Asphodel Ltd. > > > > G.Muller/.T.Nakamura/Erikm > Cable > Why Not Bechamel > For 4 Ears Records > > > > Sawtooth > Red in a Translucent World > Celluliod Dreams > Incidental > > > > Motion Ensemble > John Cage Variations 2 > w/ Lecture on Nothing > excerpt Varations 1-3 > Mode Records > > > > Janet Cardiff > The Missing Voice > Haunted Weather > Staubgold > > > > Bernard Gal > Gigrlana > Hinaus: In Den, Wald > Klangalerie > > > > Bill Dixon > I see Your Fancy Footwork 2 > Collection > Cadence Jazz > > > > iks > Desert Flower > abstcncr > Ora Productions > > > > Relay Signals > Dark green,Bright Red > Relay Signal > Lucky Kitchen > > > > Babardah > Rathi > Babardah > Abzu Recordings > > > > > > Your support is necessary in keeping this voice for the music current. > Please feel free to forward music to the address below. Thanks again > for your support. Keep Listening > > > > Thanks > Mike > > > Mike Hansen > CKLN FM 88.1 > Whynot Jazz Program > 79 Benson Ave. > Toronto,On > Canada > M6G 2H7 > xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 19:27:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32595-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 71133 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:27:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 71123 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:27:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:27:07 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arpanet In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9C0A1A.8CAF%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/19/04 9:54 PM, bryan garcia at xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx wrote: > greetings. just rocked arpanet. function of drexciya. this is very good > music. interested in conversing with fans. i'm new to microsound. havent > explored the community too much, though this seems nice. > > cheers > > b. is 'arpanet' a rock group? is yes , what is it that sounds good to you ? can you describe it? i found this definition: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/ARPANET.html also some kind of interesting looking maps, one example: http://som.csudh.edu/cis/lpress/history/arpamaps/f12sept1973.jpg anyway , glad you could join us and careful with that brymoxine drexciya, or whatever chemicals you are using today. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 20:53:35 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32596-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16530 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:53:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 16516 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:53:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Jackson <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Showing of Moog documentary in Santa Cruz, California To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Folks, I've been off the list for a while, but wanted to make sure those of you in the Bay Area or planning to visit California for A.E.S. were aware of the following: ----------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- "Moog" a film by Hans Fjellestad with special guest: Bob Moog -------------------------------- October 28 - 7:30 PM Rio Theatre 1205 Soquel Avenue Santa Cruz, CA Bob Moog will join us, in person, for a post-film discussion!!!! -------------------------------- Tickets: $7 - Available at the door. -------------------------------- Don't miss your opportunity to see this fascinating documentary and to meet the creative genius who has shaped musical culture with some of the most inspiring instruments ever created. This year, Bob is celebrating 50 years in the music business! Let's give Bob a BIG Santa Cruz welcome. . . About the film -------------------------------- MOOG, the new documentary about Robert Moog, inventor of the modern synthesizer, is a portrait of the legendary figure in music and technology and his ideas about creativity, design, interactivity, spirituality and his collaborations with musicians over the years. MOOG was directed by Hans Fjellestad and produced by Fjellestad and Ryan Page, who collaborated on FRONTIER LIFE (2002), a film about Tijuana, Mexico, and its burgeoning electronic dance music scene. Robert Moog has not only made prodigious contributions to modern music and culture, but also has become a character within an unfolding "American maverick inventor" mythology. Moog certainly walks and talks the "mad scientist" part, complete with the fly-away white hair, intense eyes, eccentric mannerisms and a head full of stories. Moog explains that he "can feel what's going on in a piece of electronic equipment... it's something between discovering and witnessing." And he is convinced that many musicians come to "feel" a circuit in a similar way. In fact, musicians make such strong emotional connections with the electronics inside a Moog synthesizer that the inventor himself has reached cult hero status. The film was shot on location in Asheville, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Tokyo and London, featuring appearances by Keith Emerson, Walter Sear, Gershon Kinsgley, Jean-Jacques Perrey & Luke Vibert, Rick Wakeman, DJ Spooky, Herb Deutsch, Bernie Worrell, Pamelia Kurstin, Tino Corp. with Charlie Clouser, Money Mark, Mix Master Mike, and an eclectic mix of performers. For more information, including a full press release and movie trailer, go to: http://www.elsaproductions.com ------------------------------------------------- Produced by The Rio Theatre and Elsa Productions. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 21:27:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32597-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31151 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:27:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 31139 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:27:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:27:36 -0500 From: "xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: [microsound] Theramin on BBC Radio4. In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host-e.savantnoc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bananamum.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <lurkoff> Hi all, Just came across this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/prog_parse.cgi?FILENAME=20041021/20041021_1130_49700_34363_30 Radio4 show tomorrow morning at 11:30 am gmt+0. 1/2 hour about the Theremin. Narrated by comedian Bill Bailey. bye all. ....steve... </lurkoff> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 21:36:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32598-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35707 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:35:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 35696 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:35:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:34:39 +0200 From: mik <xxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arpanet In-reply-to: <BD9C0A1A.8CAF%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <BD9C0A1A.8CAF%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a certain Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > is 'arpanet' a rock group? is yes , what is it that sounds good to you ? > can you describe it? > > drexciya is an electro/techno outfit, as is arpanet: * "Although they released only five EPs in their first ten years recording together, controversial Detroit techno duo Drexciya became one of the most celebrated and influential names in American experimental techno. One of the few groups to use techno as a political tool in effecting criticism of racial inequity and inner-city recovery, Drexciya brought a wider social and aesthetic agenda to a style in which allegiance to the beat is typically the only prerequisite. Closely associated with the "Mad" Mike Banks label group Underground Resistance and operating in the classically covert tradition of "faceless" techno (the pair's identities remain a mystery), the group's reputation at the bleeding edge of Detroit-school experimentation is pretty much universal, with everyone from Jeff Mills to Mike Paradinas getting in namechecks. Despite their steadfastly underground attitude, Drex's records have found release through such internationally renowned labels as Warp and Rephlex. Of! fering an often relentless fusion of early electro and techno with elements of acid and industrial music, Drexciya's fast-beat backbone and tough-as-nails rhythmic bite are among the most austere and uncompromised in contemporary techno. Reportedly, the group record their material live, which gives much of their music (particularly their Shockwave and Underground Resistance releases) a vital, immediate feel. Much of their UR output was collected on 1997's The Quest, and a full-length (Neptune's Lair) followed on Tresor in 1999. Continuing with their underwater gimmick, the heavy-handed concept album Harnessed the Storm became the first in a series of "storm" records to come from the group. Releasing three more under different names (Transllusion's Opening of the Cerebral Gate, Shifted Phases' The Cosmic Memoirs of the Late Great Rupert J. Rosinthorpe, and the Other People Place's Lifestyles of the Laptop Cafe), the group left a massive collection of music for their fans by ! the end of 2002." * "Arpanet landed on Air's Record Makers label in 2002 with Wireless Internet, an electro-techno concept record distributed by Virgin in the U.K. Rumors of the group's ties to the mysterious Detroit-area group Dopplereffekt ran rampant prior to the album's release and the album's overall sound (combined with the fact that it was associated with Dataphysix) all but exposed the obvious connection. Kraftwerk and Cybotron-inspired musical motifs collided with creepy, tension-riddled tones that evoked scores to '80s films directed by Ken Russell and John Carpenter. Inspired by the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (or ARPANET), Wireless Internet envisaged the time when every human will be able to interface with a supercomputer via a hand-held device. " (source: www.allmusic.com) m ---------------------------------------------- hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk -- --------___________________________ hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 22:28:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32599-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 55949 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:28:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 55937 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:28:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:28:37 +1000 From: Noel Peters <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] arpanet To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I noticed the blurb you reproduced refers to the "duo" Drexciya. Unfortunately one of the pair, James Stinson, died in 2002 from heart complications. His music has longevity though. Noel Peters -----Original Message----- From: mik [mailto:xxxxx@xxx.xx] Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2004 7:35 AM To: microsound Subject: Re: [microsound] arpanet a certain Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > > is 'arpanet' a rock group? is yes , what is it that sounds good to you ? > can you describe it? > > drexciya is an electro/techno outfit, as is arpanet: * "Although they released only five EPs in their first ten years recording together, controversial Detroit techno duo Drexciya became one of the most celebrated and influential names in American experimental techno. One of the few groups to use techno as a political tool in effecting criticism of racial inequity and inner-city recovery, Drexciya brought a wider social and aesthetic agenda to a style in which allegiance to the beat is typically the only prerequisite. Closely associated with the "Mad" Mike Banks label group Underground Resistance and operating in the classically covert tradition of "faceless" techno (the pair's identities remain a mystery), the group's reputation at the bleeding edge of Detroit-school experimentation is pretty much universal, with everyone from Jeff Mills to Mike Paradinas getting in namechecks. Despite their steadfastly underground attitude, Drex's records have found release through such internationally renowned labels as Warp and Rephlex. Of! fering an often relentless fusion of early electro and techno with elements of acid and industrial music, Drexciya's fast-beat backbone and tough-as-nails rhythmic bite are among the most austere and uncompromised in contemporary techno. Reportedly, the group record their material live, which gives much of their music (particularly their Shockwave and Underground Resistance releases) a vital, immediate feel. Much of their UR output was collected on 1997's The Quest, and a full-length (Neptune's Lair) followed on Tresor in 1999. Continuing with their underwater gimmick, the heavy-handed concept album Harnessed the Storm became the first in a series of "storm" records to come from the group. Releasing three more under different names (Transllusion's Opening of the Cerebral Gate, Shifted Phases' The Cosmic Memoirs of the Late Great Rupert J. Rosinthorpe, and the Other People Place's Lifestyles of the Laptop Cafe), the group left a massive collection of music for their fans by ! the end of 2002." * "Arpanet landed on Air's Record Makers label in 2002 with Wireless Internet, an electro-techno concept record distributed by Virgin in the U.K. Rumors of the group's ties to the mysterious Detroit-area group Dopplereffekt ran rampant prior to the album's release and the album's overall sound (combined with the fact that it was associated with Dataphysix) all but exposed the obvious connection. Kraftwerk and Cybotron-inspired musical motifs collided with creepy, tension-riddled tones that evoked scores to '80s films directed by Ken Russell and John Carpenter. Inspired by the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (or ARPANET), Wireless Internet envisaged the time when every human will be able to interface with a supercomputer via a hand-held device. " (source: www.allmusic.com) m ---------------------------------------------- hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk -- --------___________________________ hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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Wed Oct 20 22:55:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32600-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66122 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:55:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 66112 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:55:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:55:36 +0200 From: Jean-Louis Huhta <xxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] SWEDEN To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SiKoHK0+oY0iHysO+e0UmA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_SiKoHK0+oY0iHysO+e0UmA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello list here are some fun things to check out if you are in sweden this month best Jean-Louis > > CLUB iDEAL STHLM 28.10.04 > > KNIFEHANDCHOP (TIGERBEAT6/CANADA) > CONTEMPORARY PUNK UNIT (iDEAL) > DJ JEAN-LOUIS HUHTA > DJ THE iDEALIST > > industrial dub / mash-up / mutant ragga / brave electronix / > sound&noise > > @ SODRABAR / SÖDRA TEATERN, STOCKHOLM > 28/10 - KL 19-01 - GRATIS ENTRÉ - FREE ENTRANCE - ENTRÉE LIBRE ! ! ! > ! ! ! > WWW.IDEALRECORDINGS.COM > WWW.KNIFEHANDCHOP.COM > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------- > > CLUB iDEAL GBG 29.10.04 > > KNIFEHANDCHOP (TIGERBEAT6/CANADA) > BERG SANS NIPPLE (PROHIBITED/FR/USA) > MIDAIRCONDO (TYPE REC) > DJ THE iDEALIST > DJ TBA > > brave elektronix / mash-up / mutant ragga / avant rock > > @NEFERTITI , GÖTEBORG > 29/10 - KL 20 - 90 sek PERSPECTIVES 2004 / Festival for creative music Västerås 21-24 oktober 2004 Fugazi, The soundtrack of our lives, Lucky People Center, Massaker, Essex Green, Bob Hund, Hellacopters, Last Exit, Union Carbide Productions, Henry Cow och Will not be there !!! But members from these bands and related groups will during four days perform in Västerås Audio Laboratory med Ebbot Lundberg, White Magic (US), Wolf Eyes (US), Merzbow (JAP), Peter Brötzmann & Milford Graves Duo(GER/US), Anthony Braxton solo (US), Fred Frith w. the New Perspective Ensemble med bl.a. Lars Hollmer och Sten Sandell (GB/ SE/ NO), RELATED SILENCE w. Guy Picciotto (US)/ Caspar Brötzmann ( GER)/ Mats Gustafsson (SE)/ Tim Barnes (US)/ Johan Berthling (SE)/ Ikue Mori (JAP), GUSH w Derek Bailey (SE /GB), Marilyn Crispell Quartet w. Palle Danielsson ( US/SE/NO), TAPE (SE), Kim Hiorthöy ( NO), Han Bennink & Per Henrik Wallin (NL/ SE), Dror Feiler (SE), FME w.Ken Vandermark (US/NO), Bobo Stenson w. Sven-Åke Johansson and Ivar Lindell (SE), Sten Hanson (SE), JaapBlonk(NL), midaircondo(SE) http://www.nyaperspektiv.se/ http://www.jeanlouis.biz/ --Boundary_(ID_SiKoHK0+oY0iHysO+e0UmA)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 23:01:00 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32601-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68946 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:00:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 68936 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:00:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:00:54 -0400 From: Yatra Arts <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] SWEDEN To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005e01c4b6f8$a7125e40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9jRSPI31+NblgSwlYTnjSg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_9jRSPI31+NblgSwlYTnjSg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit any new artists from Sweden or Scandinavia, please contact me ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean-Louis Huhta To: microsound Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: [microsound] SWEDEN Hello list here are some fun things to check out if you are in sweden this month best Jean-Louis > > CLUB iDEAL STHLM 28.10.04 > > KNIFEHANDCHOP (TIGERBEAT6/CANADA) > CONTEMPORARY PUNK UNIT (iDEAL) > DJ JEAN-LOUIS HUHTA > DJ THE iDEALIST > > industrial dub / mash-up / mutant ragga / brave electronix / > sound&noise > > @ SODRABAR / SÖDRA TEATERN, STOCKHOLM > 28/10 - KL 19-01 - GRATIS ENTRÉ - FREE ENTRANCE - ENTRÉE LIBRE ! ! ! > ! ! ! > WWW.IDEALRECORDINGS.COM > WWW.KNIFEHANDCHOP.COM > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------- > > CLUB iDEAL GBG 29.10.04 > > KNIFEHANDCHOP (TIGERBEAT6/CANADA) > BERG SANS NIPPLE (PROHIBITED/FR/USA) > MIDAIRCONDO (TYPE REC) > DJ THE iDEALIST > DJ TBA > > brave elektronix / mash-up / mutant ragga / avant rock > > @NEFERTITI , GÖTEBORG > 29/10 - KL 20 - 90 sek PERSPECTIVES 2004 / Festival for creative music Västerås 21-24 oktober 2004 Fugazi, The soundtrack of our lives, Lucky People Center, Massaker, Essex Green, Bob Hund, Hellacopters, Last Exit, Union Carbide Productions, Henry Cow och Will not be there !!! But members from these bands and related groups will during four days perform in Västerås Audio Laboratory med Ebbot Lundberg, White Magic (US), Wolf Eyes (US), Merzbow (JAP), Peter Brötzmann & Milford Graves Duo(GER/US), Anthony Braxton solo (US), Fred Frith w. the New Perspective Ensemble med bl.a. Lars Hollmer och Sten Sandell (GB/ SE/ NO), RELATED SILENCE w. Guy Picciotto (US)/ Caspar Brötzmann ( GER)/ Mats Gustafsson (SE)/ Tim Barnes (US)/ Johan Berthling (SE)/ Ikue Mori (JAP), GUSH w Derek Bailey (SE /GB), Marilyn Crispell Quartet w. Palle Danielsson ( US/SE/NO), TAPE (SE), Kim Hiorthöy ( NO), Han Bennink & Per Henrik Wallin (NL/ SE), Dror Feiler (SE), FME w.Ken Vandermark (US/NO), Bobo Stenson w. Sven-Åke Johansson and Ivar Lindell (SE), Sten Hanson (SE), JaapBlonk(NL), midaircondo(SE) http://www.nyaperspektiv.se/ http://www.jeanlouis.biz/ --Boundary_(ID_9jRSPI31+NblgSwlYTnjSg)-- From ???@??? Wed Oct 20 23:29:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32602-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 82853 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:29:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 82837 invoked from network); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:29:00 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:28:57 +0100 From: mr m <xxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] D o w n with the C h a i r m an [RAM6 special] kim cascone interview To: Mr M <xxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Cc: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <LAEPLFHLJCMLIGPEGHCKKEEECDAA.xxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx - - - - ---- --- - - - - - - - - D o w n with the C h a i r m a n - - - - ---- --- - - - - - - - - S i j i s ------------ R a d i o ---- episode twenty three ---- Special show about RAM6 new media festival in Lithuania. featuring: interviews with derek holzer + kim cascone; live performances; recorded work and field recordings. thursday twenty first october one fifteen pm. resonance fm 104.4fm in london. or stream on the web. www.resonancefm.com shows archived at: www.archive.org [search for sijis] specifically here http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=sijis&collectionid=dwtc23 for tracklisting and full interviews go to http://www.sijis.com for more info. please pass this on to anyone with interested or interesting ears. tata. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 21 06:25:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32603-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16339 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:25:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 16329 invoked from network); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:25:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:25:37 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arpanet In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9CA468.8CC2%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/20/04 2:34 PM, mik at xxxxx@xxx.xx wrote: > a certain Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >> >> >> is 'arpanet' a rock group? is yes , what is it that sounds good to you ? >> can you describe it? >> >> > drexciya is an electro/techno outfit, as is arpanet: >> ---------------------------------------------- > hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk Thanks for the website url. it looks way cool...didn't find any arpanet , did find 'koffie&pils' which I liked . -wasn't so sure about'Korm'. Does that have any connection to Korm Plastics? -just wondering. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 21 11:44:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32604-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15773 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:44:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 15762 invoked from network); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:44:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:43:20 +0200 From: triPhaze <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] privatelektro news 10.04 To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00b501c4b763$2db37f00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2nwI09Uodj+74yliL8PGnQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2nwI09Uodj+74yliL8PGnQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THIS MONTH NEWS: PRIVATELEKTRO NET AUDIO DEPARTMENT launched! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * net audio department launched ** headphone festival 2004 downloads *** new artists + upcoming releases **** two new mp3s by c:\ ***** live dates, screenings etc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ we are proud to announce we finally launched the long awaited NETLABEL SECTION at privatelektro.de. this - in addition to our physical releases - will give us the possibility to release music more often than we did in the past. There are two different kinds of releases we will do: "[pnet...]": the regular netreleases by resident privatelektro artists, mainly focussing on more minimal / drone / ambient recordings. "[plive...]": live recordings we do at our events (e.g. the headphone festival) a selection of the best stuff (only excellent recording quality) will be released here. this collection offers a great variety of styles and will feature artists from other labels as well. http://www.privatelektro.de/net_dept.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ the headphone-festival 2004 live sets are ready to download: entire live sets by: parachute, rev. benn schipper, klaswar, mix-mup, dead fish audio, nahr, jaap versainc, ihlenfeld, tichy, triPhaze, sinebag detailed download and info: http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collection=privatelektro ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NETLABEL PREVIEW: VANO I MK.2 "Rockers unique ep" [pnet:02] will be relased on nov.11. - watch out for further information. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TWO NEW MP3s BY c:\ "daybreak" an "persistent vision" http://www.privatelektro.de/downloads.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LIVE / EVENTS: screening: the video: "succeeding where the hippies failed" by m. brandt with music of parachute : will be screened as part of the e4os screening programm @ the 2004 Gwangju Biennale, South Korea : Gallery 5 - the Club - middle of october to november nov. 14th: zentrale randlage - berlin / germany : joint venture 2 more infos soon.. cheers to you all... stay tuned marek/bernhard/christian ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ join the messageboard: http://privatelektro-news.de contact us: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx booking: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx & xxxxxx_@xxx.xxx (only A, CH) privatelektro products are available at: http://www.dust-dbugger.de/ http://www.dronerecords.de/ http://www.minorlabel.de/mailorder/index.htm http://www.stora.de (kickoff 11/04) --Boundary_(ID_2nwI09Uodj+74yliL8PGnQ)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 21 11:45:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32605-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16887 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:45:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 16876 invoked from network); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:45:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:46:04 +0100 From: Noisejihad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] NYC Action To: List Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004501c4b76b$eecfb570$xxxxxxxx@xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qEtMsSDdKF0bYG3RfuSLsA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_qEtMsSDdKF0bYG3RfuSLsA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all I'll be in NYC from 10/25 - 11/02, if anybody has gotten anything info on events, gigs, happenings or art exhibits during this time, please mail them to xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx as this will be the only mail i'll check while i'm away. Do not reply to the list, thank you. Lars IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Wäldchengarten - Uncomfortable Positions - mp3-ep on Fukk God >>> www.fukkgod.org key to knowledge on danish noise >>> www.noisejihad.dk "I'm not inspired. I'm provoked." Ned Cartledge Cool artsite>>> www.ideations.dk --Boundary_(ID_qEtMsSDdKF0bYG3RfuSLsA)-- From ???@??? Thu Oct 21 13:58:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32606-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66471 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:58:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 66447 invoked from network); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:58:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:58:09 +0100 From: Richard Whitelaw <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] The Agents of Impurity reviewed To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9D7F01.2576%xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx New York City- based poet Kenneth Goldsmith is founding director of www.ubuweb.com, an invaluable site that started as an archival resource for visual and sound poetry and has become a more generalised ³clearinghouse for the avant garde². Within Ubuweb Frank Zappa and The Velvet Underground mingle with the likes of Salvador Dali and Alberto Giacometti and a host of fascinating, obscure and unlikely figures. Goldsmith has curated The Agents of Impurity (Sonic Arts Network CD), offering a taste of his online collection while celebrating work that invites ³new strategies of intake² with eye and ear. The print selection veers from the compact self-reference of Gertrude Stein¹s ³Five Words in a Line² to the exhaustive permutatory minimalism of Samuel Beckett¹s ³Watt², from Claude Closky¹s obsessive and unreadable ³The First Thousand Numbers Classified in Alphabetical Order² to the visual concision of bpNichol¹s concrete poetry. On the CD¹s 15 tracks, language is vividly present in voices; not a transparent medium but a complex environment, a bludgeon, playground, toolkit, a stream of detritus, mound of rubble, bag of tricks, beating pulse. Moods vary from Antonin Artaud¹s raw vocal flailing to the calm detachment of Neil Mills ³Seven Number Poems² a pleasing retrieval from the 1971 Arts Council LP, "Experiments in Disintegrating Language". Diversity is crucial. Erik Belgum discovers mantric incantation in marital discord. Dokaka performs a cappella hardcore. Caroline Bergvall delves into micro-linguistic particles. Todd Colby goes wild for cake. Ergo Phizmiz juggles environmental sounds and vocal samples. How we read, how we listen alters as media change, new technologies develop, our senses are subtly realigned and hybrid forms evolve. Goldsmith shows the avant garde, agents of impurity, registering such modifications, playing games and having fun. Julian Cowley The Wire The Agents of Impurity is available from www.sonicartsnetwork.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 21 16:37:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32607-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43502 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:37:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 43486 invoked from network); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:37:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:42:53 +0100 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] SWEDEN In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx if you are in Malmoe you might check out Gallerie 21/Buero 21: http://www.galleri21.com/buro21/ cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ next events: pure-data workshop 18.10-22.10 vivid, Birmingham, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 06:37:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32608-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 02:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 02:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89103 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:37:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 89078 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:37:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:07:29 +0200 From: mik <xxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] arpanet In-reply-to: <BD9CA468.8CC2%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> <BD9CA468.8CC2%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a certain Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk > > > Thanks for the website url. it looks way cool...didn't find any arpanet , that's my website you visited. i'm in no way related to arpanet. > did find 'koffie&pils' which I liked . -wasn't so sure about'Korm'. Does > that have any connection to Korm Plastics? > no, it hasn't. once frans de waard half seriously wondered about this to. m -- --------___________________________ hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 09:24:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32609-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35278 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:24:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 35268 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:24:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 02:17:24 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Informal Workshop Presentation To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_IsetxWEkkSNvD4mDvu0PEQ)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_IsetxWEkkSNvD4mDvu0PEQ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Informal Workshop Presentation This Sunday, October 24th, STEIM organizes an informal presentation by the participants of the following workshop. It starts at 19:00 h, and entrance is free. *** Emergent Content Creation Using Simple Genetic Algorithms By Kim Cascone The concept for this workshop was inspired by John Maeda’s "Human Powered Computer Experiment" (http://www.imrf.or.jp/HPCE.html). In this experiment Maeda recreated the internal operations of a simple computer using people to physically transport handwritten instructions and data to and from the CPU, RAM, FPU, etc. Participating in this type of experiment enables one to best learn abstract concepts using their body as a medium. In similar spirit, this workshop develops a group workflow using the model of a simple genetic algorithm (SGA) with the end result being an emergent work of music/sound art. More info can be found on http://www.steim.nl in the workshops section. *** Date: Sunday October 24th Time: 19:00 h Venue: STEIM, Utrechtsedwarsstraat 134 Amsterdam Entrance: Free *** [] robert van heumen sound @ hardhatarea http://hardhatarea.com projects & system admin @ steim http://www.steim.nl --Boundary_(ID_IsetxWEkkSNvD4mDvu0PEQ)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 12:05:39 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32610-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70268 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:05:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 70258 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:05:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:05:30 +0100 From: Stan Wijnans <xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] experimental sounds In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi all I am new to the list and I was wondering if there is anybody out there who could help me with suggestions of websites to collect experimental, environmental, industrial etc sounds which can be freely sampled/reedited for interactive sound installations. I am always looking for sounds for my art projects :) ofcourse if you like you will be credited ! Any help is much appreciated, thanks a lot all the best, Stan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 14:37:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32611-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29683 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:37:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 29666 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:37:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:37:39 +0300 From: || sirr || <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New releases : John Hudak & Stephan Mathieu + Blanchot To: annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9EF5E3.E992%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, We are very proud to announce our latest releases: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sirr 019 CD -> Winter Pieces by John Hudak and Stephan Mathieu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sirr 018 CD -> Noli Me Legere - to Maurice Blanchot with Brandon Labelle, Toshiya Tsunoda, Julien Ottavi, Steve Roden, Paulo Raposo, Christof Migone and Stephen Vitiello ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sirr-ecords.com/news.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- About sirr019 || "pieces of winter by john hudak and stephan mathieu" is based on one composition by each of the two sound artists originally made in the winter of 2002/2003. john hudaks recordings for "winter garden" were based on a contact microphone buried overnight in snow that turned to ice, then he recorded snow falling on this enveloping ice. the basic recordings for stephan mathieus "nuit blanche" were made on christmas eve 2002 with eva-lucy mathieu on ocarina and himself on pump organ. Finally these original pieces were exchanged and transformed into a calm, minimal suite of digital variations. sample: http://www.sirr-ecords.com/audio/hudakmathieu.mp3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- About sirr018 || Maurice Blanchot (1907-2003) is one of the most enigmatic and influential figures in modern writing. Remembered from the few distant relates and a clandestine photograph taken in 1922 as being tall, thin and cadaverous in appearance - Blanchot chose reclusiveness and uncompromise, isolation and refusal, but his specter lingers on over contemporary thinking. Blanchot has avoided interviews, photographs, and academic affiliations; public knowledge of his life consists of a handful of minor anecdotes and of inferences built around the appearance of his books and essays. Sirr invited a hand full of sound artists to deal with his "obscurity". sample: http://www.sirr-ecords.com/audio/steveroden_blanchot.mp3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your attention. Sorry for possible cross-posting... If you wish to be removed from this list, please let us know. ||| xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx ----------------- ||||||- ||||||- |||||| ||| ----------------- ||||||-- ||||||- |||||| ||| http://www.sirr-ecords.com ----------------- -| |||-| |||- |||||| ----- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 14:40:31 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32612-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31818 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:40:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 31808 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:40:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:40:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Two articles on Linux audio X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hey, Newsforge has a couple of articles on building a Linux-based home studio for less than $1000. I'm just posting the links as I haven't yet read the articles so I can't verify how useful they are. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/20/1418231 http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/20/1423245 Enjoy. Phil +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ { Phil Thomson { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson { label: http://centibel.org/ { group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 15:36:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32615-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 64522 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:35:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 64479 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:35:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:22:51 -0400 From: stephen hastings-king <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] strategies for getting music out Sender: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-User-Info: 68.163.23.89 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx list comrades: i seldom post to this list, but find it quite enjoyable and informative. the collective in which i work is doing electro-acoustic work, in long formats, often working with poets. but the question i have for you is not about what we are doing in sonic terms, however: rather it is more how we go about presenting our work to a public. given that we work as most of the list seems to in the area of "experimental" music, the questions we are trying to sort out would seem to be common to most folk here. there is a preamble, and it is a little long, so please bear with me. a few weeks ago there was a thread about the collapse of various distributors who had provided access to retail outlets for recordings made in this general field (experrymental sound). the picture that emerged from it was quite bleak for anyone who had considered moving into music and out of the day job that surrently supports that music. second, even if these distribution networks were intact, there is a second problem with copyright as it pertains to improvised music, a residuum of the early nineteenth century reconceptualization of music as object, the object-ness of which was understood to be a function of the score. third problem: even if the above conditions did not obtain, there is a further problem of small audience, particularly for musical forms that tend to work in lengths from 40 minutes to two hours. this same set of approach conditions mean that we also run into limitations of the cd form (time per disc in particular). fourth problem: i have been carrying out a small scale sociological-style investigation of changes in listening practices engendered by the rise of media like itunes--the definition of listening practices extended to questions of acquisition of information about artists, the role of graphics in staging a relation to the music acquired, in addition to how something like a preference for a shuffle function impacts on the kind of attention listeners bring to bear on what they are hearing. so far, the results are anecdotal (i would be interested in undertaking a wider version of this--if people might be interested in using/modifying the survey, let me know and i'll make it available--or if others have been carrying out parallel work, let me know about that as well please) the sample so far has been limited to university students, staff and faculty where i teach...the results seem to indicate an implosion of demand for cd forms and outline a shift in the relation to matters like retail, a tendency to bypass graphic material as a mediation of the relation of listener to music, and a growing distance from the existing music press as a mediation of choices, etc.. the upshot.... we are thinking that it makes as much sense as anything else to use our website to make recordings available. but we are trying to figure out what the implications of this move might be. we figure that recordings operate almost entirely as commercials for live performances. we assume that there is no money in them for us or for most folk who release them, either --but that there is nothing about using a website as the primary vehicle for making our usic available that would preclude generating cd releases, either as merch for shows or as objects in themselves. we are highly ambivalent about existing copyright law, both in fact and in principle. our primary goal is to be able to perform in a variety of venues, mostly to enable us to get to the level of road tight playing--we have figured out that there is no amount of rehearsal and sporadic small performances that will get us to this place--we want to see what is out there. so the objective is there, not in other areas. so the outcome is that we are considering using our website as the primary mechanism for making our stuff public. we wonder if others have reached a similar conclusion and what the implications of doing this might be. because i am sure that we have not thought of everything. thanks in advance for any feedback stephen ----------------------------------------------------- http://eo.yifan.net Free POP3/Web Email, File Manager, Calendar and Address Book --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 15:31:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32614-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60764 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:31:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 60754 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:31:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:31:22 +0300 From: || sirr || <xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New releases : John Hudak & Stephan Mathieu + Blanchot To: annonces Wire <xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9F027A.E9E0%xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi, We are very proud to announce our latest releases: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sirr 019 CD -> Winter Pieces by John Hudak and Stephan Mathieu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sirr 018 CD -> Noli Me Legere - to Maurice Blanchot with Brandon Labelle, Toshiya Tsunoda, Julien Ottavi, Steve Roden, Paulo Raposo, Christof Migone and Stephen Vitiello ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sirr-ecords.com/news.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- About sirr019 || "pieces of winter by john hudak and stephan mathieu" is based on one composition by each of the two sound artists originally made in the winter of 2002/2003. john hudaks recordings for "winter garden" were based on a contact microphone buried overnight in snow that turned to ice, then he recorded snow falling on this enveloping ice. the basic recordings for stephan mathieus "nuit blanche" were made on christmas eve 2002 with eva-lucy mathieu on ocarina and himself on pump organ. Finally these original pieces were exchanged and transformed into a calm, minimal suite of digital variations. sample: http://www.sirr-ecords.com/audio/hudakmathieu.mp3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- About sirr018 || Maurice Blanchot (1907-2003) is one of the most enigmatic and influential figures in modern writing. Remembered from the few distant relates and a clandestine photograph taken in 1922 as being tall, thin and cadaverous in appearance - Blanchot chose reclusiveness and uncompromise, isolation and refusal, but his specter lingers on over contemporary thinking. Blanchot has avoided interviews, photographs, and academic affiliations; public knowledge of his life consists of a handful of minor anecdotes and of inferences built around the appearance of his books and essays. Sirr invited a hand full of sound artists to deal with his "obscurity". sample: http://www.sirr-ecords.com/audio/steveroden_blanchot.mp3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your attention. Sorry for possible cross-posting... If you wish to be removed from this list, please let us know. ||| xxxx-xxxxxx@xxxx-xxxxxx.xxx ----------------- ||||||- ||||||- |||||| ||| ----------------- ||||||-- ||||||- |||||| ||| http://www.sirr-ecords.com ----------------- -| |||-| |||- |||||| ----- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 15:00:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32613-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46225 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:00:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 46214 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:00:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:13:01 +0200 From: derek holzer <xxxxx@x-x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Piksel04: open source video software In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The Piksel04 festival will take place in Bergen, Norway next month, and they have compiled a list of open source video software which will be featured there. Might be interesting browsing for some of y'all that can't make it: http://www.piksel.no/piksel04/ny_software.html Stuff for Linux, OSX and even some windoze too. d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 156: "The tape is now the music" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 16:20:30 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32616-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77756 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:20:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 77743 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:20:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:24:20 -0400 From: john saylor <xx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] strategies for getting music out In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi ( 04.10.22 11:22 -0400 ) stephen hastings-king: > so the outcome is that we are considering using our website as the > primary mechanism for making our stuff public. nice! > we wonder if others have reached a similar conclusion and what the > implications of doing this might be. you may want to consider licensing the work you post with a creative commons license [http://creativecommons.org/], which will allow for the distribution you desire. i think if you aren't explicit about the license it falls under the default [sonny bono] draconian copyright. fair warning: ianal. also, you talk about huge files. i'd say its prudent to make sure your ISP isn't going to drop a huge bill on you for bandwidth usage. -- \js != http://or8.net/~johns /'{+:'[<. $'%`/ iraq body count: 13,296 [min] 15,377 [max] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley this is just a quick note to announce tonight's edition of framework:focus, featuring the work of chris watson, as well as interviews (recorded on his favorite beach!), and the works of a group of students he recently worked with in liverpool on a project with FACT (the foundation for art and creative technology) called wildtracks:24. this program debuts tonight and will be repeated this coming wednesday, the 27th of october. before then i will send out a proper playlist with more detailed info on the material in the broadcast, and contact information for both chris and FACT. in the meantime, tune in if you can! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_kO/bUdkLT66fPPB3cc7D0A)-- From ???@??? Fri Oct 22 19:42:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32618-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 70869 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:42:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 70848 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:42:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:39:21 +0100 From: David Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] experimental sounds To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Cc: xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00b701c4b86f$3cf7a600$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Stan Audiobulb Records : www.audiobulb.com have a CREATE page with free VSTi's and wav samples for free use Help your self :) David @ Audiobulb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wijnans" <xxxx@xxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: [microsound] experimental sounds > hi all > > I am new to the list and I was wondering if there is anybody out there > who could help me with suggestions of websites to collect experimental, > environmental, industrial etc sounds which can be freely > sampled/reedited for interactive sound installations. 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Fri Oct 22 23:43:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32619-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66489 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:43:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 66477 invoked from network); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:43:10 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:41:18 -0400 From: "William A. Davison" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] SWEDEN In-reply-to: <005e01c4b6f8$a7125e40$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9F12DE.1936%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/20/04 7:00 PM, Yatra Arts at xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > any new artists from Sweden or Scandinavia, please contact me hmmm...I wonder what PB is up to now? ;-) - William A. Davison www.recordism.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 23 18:52:40 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32625-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16987 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:52:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 16976 invoked from network); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:52:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:45:44 -0400 From: Yatra Arts <xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] SWEDEN To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <014c01c4b891$41d67940$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dBFW+0l5W4lnyCO7l+jZqg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BD9F12DE.1936%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_dBFW+0l5W4lnyCO7l+jZqg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi W, losing my mind as usual.........just returned from Amsterdam - Raster Noton thing and actually ready for Yatra Arts to begin! how r u? -pb ----- Original Message ----- From: William A. Davison To: microsound Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] SWEDEN on 10/20/04 7:00 PM, Yatra Arts at xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > any new artists from Sweden or Scandinavia, please contact me hmmm...I wonder what PB is up to now? ;-) - William A. Davison www.recordism.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --Boundary_(ID_dBFW+0l5W4lnyCO7l+jZqg)-- From ???@??? 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Sat Oct 23 14:17:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32624-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 61894 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:17:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 61883 invoked from network); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:17:03 +0000 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:15:13 -0400 From: "William A. Davison" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] kit-ten-net-tik In-reply-to: <3goh47$xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BD9FDFB1.1940%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/22/04 3:44 PM, xxxx@xxxx-xxxxxxxx.xxx at xxxx@xxxx-xxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > hi! I'm postin about a synthesis toolkit in kit form that I've been designing > for the past few months. It's actually two different styles of electronic > brain > tentacled to sound and light, that you can build from kit... one is called > "fourses in the zi-hai" and the other its called "the fyrall computer". I > have > pictures and sound up at my website at http://www.ciat-lonbarde.net . > > cheers! peteeerb > The kits look fantastic Peter! If I ever have that utterly abhorrent yet seemingly essential substance known as money again I will buy one. Also, glad to see you are back on the internet webthing...or maybe you never left, but I couldn't find your website for awhile. - William A. Davison www.recordism.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 23 19:24:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32626-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23901 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:24:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 23881 invoked from network); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:24:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:24:12 -0700 From: Alberto Guedea <x@x--x.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Fwd: Upgrade 2.0 @ NFF//A day of artist talks on audio and interactivity In-reply-to: <002601c4c02d$bd3fe8c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> X-Originating-IP: 24.81.141.45 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@x--x.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - srv.bestofsilver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32004] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - a--g.com X-Source: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/imp/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/horde/imp X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <p06100500bd8ed691ee41@[10.0.1.4]> <002601c4c02d$bd3fe8c0$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Fwd: Upgrade 2.0 @ NFF//A day of artist talks on audio and interactivity ----- Forwarded message from Kate Armstrong <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> ----- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:31:58 -0700 From: Kate Armstrong <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> We're really excited to announce a special Upgrade event that will take place 12 - 7:30pm on Sunday, October 24th in connection with the New Forms Festival. Upgrade 2.0 @ NFF is a day of artists talks on audio and interactivity at the New Forms Media Society Open Studios. The event is free and open to the public and will be followed by a reception. Curated by Malcolm Levy and Kate Armstrong, Upgrade 2.0 @ New Forms will feature Vitamins For You, In The Nursery, Sue Costabile, Ben Nevile, Matt Roberts, Nathan Wolek, NomIg, and artists from Reverie: Noise City including Jean Routhier, Igor Santizo, Alberto Guedea, Elizabeth Fischer, and Ken Roux. >From 12 - 1 there will be A/V artist talks by In The Nursery, then at 1 Matt Roberts and Nathan Wolek of the Mobile Performance Group will appear. From 2 - 3 Vitamins For You will give a talk, and from 3 - 4 there will be a workshop featuring Ben Nevile. Starting at 4 pm, Jean Routhier, Igor Santizo, Alberto Guedea, Elizabeth Fischer and Ken Roux will be present to talk about Reverie: Noise City, a virtual urban landscape on the Web. Inside this city, an ever-expanding group of international sound artists will build venues for their work. Reverie: Noise City imagines an urban landscape that includes a variety of poetic extrapolations on the types of regions that exist in our cities - a merging of Sunset Boulevard, Lower Manhattan, boat houses on the canal, the Surrey Landfill site, and a public botanical garden of the future. The web interface for the project consists of an abstracted grid. The contributing artists will locate themselves within the grid and define the characteristics of their environment and sound venue. Over time, the growing collection of audio art venues will define a structure of neighbourhoods and communities in which artists plan time-based events and engage other inhabitants in collaboration and exchange. The project title comes from a novel entitled "The Artificial Kid", by Bruce Sterling. The protagonist in this story (the Kid) is the focal point of a futuristic reality TV show. He moves around in a disjointed urban landscape - traveling from regions of neglect, violence and industrial decay to the mansions of wealth and power. The book is both a comment on our contemporary North American urban phenomenon and an exploration of virtuality. Sterling puts forth the idea that at some point when you take on or wear a virtual personality it becomes a real personality. To a degree, the actor who plays a long-standing role becomes the character and the distinction between real and virtual breaks down. The project also refers to William Gibson's "Walled City" and other non-fictional on-line virtual communities (MUDs, chat groups, networked gaming groups, BLOGS, etc.). "Walled City" exists as a distributed network game that requires continuous human interaction to keep it alive and functioning. The players adopt a persona and take responsibility for maintaining different parts of the city. These parts are then passed from player to player as the participants log-in and out of the game. In a similar fashion, Reverie: Noise City imagines a city that is activated purely through the ongoing activities and exchanges of sound-artists. Talks and discussion will start at 12 and run all afternoon at Open Studios. A reception featuring audio performances will begin at 6 pm. Schedule: 12 - 7:30 pm 12 - 1 PM: A/V artist talks by In The Nursery 1 - 2 PM: Matt Roberts and Nathan Wolek of the Mobile Performance Group 2 - 3 PM: Vitamins for You 3 - 4 PM: Workshop featuring Ben Nevile 4 - 5 PM: Jean Routhier, Igor Santizo, Alberto Guedea, Elizabeth Fischer, and Ken Roux from Reverie: Noise City 6 - 7:30 PM: Reception and Performance Sunday, October 24th from 12 - 7:30 pm New Forms Media Society Open Studios 252 East 1st Avenue Vancouver, Canada Free Admission See you there! Kate Armstrong ______ Kate Armstrong http://katearmstrong.com http://specialairplane.org Upgrade Vancouver: http://www.katearmstrong.com/upgrade/vancouver/index.html Upgrade NYC: http://www.treasurecrumbs.com/theupgrade/ Upgrade Montreal: http://theupgrade.sat.qc.ca/ ----- End forwarded message ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 23 11:19:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32623-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25829 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:19:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 25816 invoked from network); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:19:10 +0000 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:21:04 -0700 From: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] GINTAS K. VS. DDN collaboration To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: gintas k <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> Message-id: <00b601c4b946$3470bf30$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> Organization: gintas k MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@x-x.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2004 11:19:08.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D07E6B0:01C4B8F2] www.burningemptiness.fr.st BE_24 BurningEmptinessInc.2004 France GINTAS K. VS. DDN :: The Pulse and Click of Your Cyberheart is Melody to My Analogue to Digital Converter CD (Ltd. to 77) :: Burning Emptiness .. . . . ½ :: This is called a "random collection" of a collaboration by Lithuanian Gintas K Pasienieciu and Arles' DDN that encompasses a variety of whip short tracks - samples sort of. From the start, though, its more than a simple sampler - its more of a belligerent set of pirated codes, channels of sound that take you to another level of consciousness. Playing on pitch and rhythm with a sense of staggered timing. This is where the phrase "ghost in the machine" came from, even after the fact, it makes perfect sense. All of the sources used here are live, all the sine waves, plugins, synths, theremin and other wired things. In moments where galloping quips meet sweet synth organs the two meet in harmonic curiosity. The percussion is high hat to blurring when apparent in these electronic haikus, each under two minutes in length. They tease a bit as each transition is gently different with a variety of gurgling to alarm sounds. With something akin to an open mic to a buzz saw, a volcanic growth build in the background and morphs the engine that this one flew in on until a cavern of technical difficulty is overcome by the shimmy of radio interference. What have I stumbled upon here? M I C R O V I E W :: Volume 16 By TJ Norris http://igloomag.com/document.php?task=printview&id=778&category=reviews --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 2004.10.15 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 24 04:11:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32627-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41157 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:11:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 41144 invoked from network); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:11:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:09:18 -0400 From: "William A. Davison" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] SWEDEN In-reply-to: <014c01c4b891$41d67940$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA0A32E.194B%xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/22/04 7:45 PM, Yatra Arts at xxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxx.xx wrote: > Hi W, > > losing my mind as usual.........just returned from Amsterdam - Raster Noton > thing and actually ready for Yatra Arts to begin! > > how r u? > > -pb Doing alright thanks. Yatra Arts? - William --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 24 12:30:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32628-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32676 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:30:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 32665 invoked from network); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:30:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:30:26 +1000 From: Simon Hampson <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Symbiosis playlist - 17/10/04 To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Message-id: <BGEGLJANJODPJPDMGMDIMEPFDDAA.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Symbiosis Experimental Sound Textures and Rhythms [Headphones recommended] 12am - 2am Sunday nights (2pm - 4pm Sunday afternoon GMT) Time Zone Converter: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm (Show broadcasts in GMT +10) 102.7 FM, Melbourne, Australia Listen online: http://www.rrr.org.au Symbiosis c/o Triple R PO Box 304 Fitzroy, VIC 3068 Australia xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx presented by Simon Hampson -------------------------------------------- Hi all, I hope this finds you all well... The weather has been getting progressively better in Melbourne of late. Spring is definitely upon us and things are heating up for Summer! There is a lot of content planned leading up to the end of the year and I hope you can join me for the ride. Tonight on Symbiosis... In the first hour: Steve Law joins me to chat about Outer 05, the next installment of Pat O'Brien's great series of shows at BUS Gallery on Sat 30th October. He will be doing a set live-to-air.. In the second hour: October Label Feature - this month I look at UK-based Sijis.. an hour of sounds from a great label and some comments from one of the collective, Mark McLaren (Mutton Deluxe). Coming Up: 31/10: Mark Harwood joins me in the mix and performs live 7/11: Unsound 04 - a look at this year's festival in Wagga Wagga (http://www.space-program.org/unsound/index.html) In the pipeline: Listening to the Mind concert, Anthony Guerra, Taalem Records, Ian Andrews, Mike Hallenbeck, Adam Raisbeck (Sense) About town... Saturday 30th October: Outer 5 8pm @ BUS 117 Little Lonsdale st, Melbourne Michael Graeve Andrew Barrie Steve Law Robbie Avenaim and Ernie Althoff Until next week, Simon. now playing: Mira Calix - 3 Commissions (Warp) now watching: Outfoxed -------------------------------------------- Show Date: 17/10/04 Guests/Features: None Artist :: Track :: Album :: Label Archive :: hear no shovel :: Immersion: Water Works :: Insides Music Sutekh :: fire weather :: Fell :: Orthlorng Musork Sack & Blumm :: wawahkel :: s/t :: Tom Recordings Sense :: sleepless :: Where Have You Been? What Have You Done? 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Mon Oct 25 08:52:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32631-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21640 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:52:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 21615 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:51:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:57:15 +0200 From: nicola catalano <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] test, please ignore/delete X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <v03110703bda2623c3260@[151.24.137.0]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + { { d i s c o g r a p h y } } z_e_l_l_e | nth | line (http://www.12k.com) aug 2001 z_e_l_l_e | rjctd::nw | cubicfabric (http://www.cubicmusic.com/fabric/index.html) nov 2003 "zen enlightenment lifts life energy" on tu M'p3 (http://www.tu-m.com) jan 2002 "shayozoku" on tu M'p3 (http://www.tu-m.com) sept 2002 "tief herz" on lib. 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Mon Oct 25 08:10:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32629-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8939 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:10:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 8929 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:10:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:06:34 -0700 From: Galen Elfert <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Aquarium music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by antibody.sfu.ca running antivirus scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx I am becoming interested in a process I've been calling the aquarium method. In this, I imagine, one would construct a virtual space, using multiple channels, and place within it various sound generators, which would generate sound and move about the space in response to various global variables (in a wordly space, for instance, these might include temperature, wind speed, light, etc.). Controlling these variables would be the primary input during performance. Generators might interact with each other, or even effect certain global parameters themselves. Does anyone know of any literature exploring this technique? Or artists or works that employ/explore it. Is it an established practise? Is there a vocabulary? Any information or commentary would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Peace, Galen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 08:43:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32630-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17771 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:43:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 17759 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:43:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:43:05 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Merzbow/Kim Casone Monday Oct 25 time 20:30 Theater Frascati 63 Nes, Amsterdam, tel 020-6228690 for more info hope to see you there! 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Mon Oct 25 09:31:03 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32632-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46987 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:31:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 46866 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:31:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:31:39 +0200 From: Malte Steiner <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Aquarium music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Organization: block 4 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8a4) Gecko/20040927 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Google for sound diffusion or -distribution. I heard exciting multichannel concerts in UK and afterwards got complete surprised that the input on some even come only from the 2 channels of a cd which were dynamically diffused by the composers themself. Harrison, J., 1998. 'Sound space, sculpture: some thoughts on the 'what', 'how' and 'why' of sound diffusion', Organised Sound, Vol. 3, No. 2, pp. 117-28. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- blog 4, also available as rss feed: http://java.block4.com/blog4/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 11:28:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32633-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15546 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:28:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 15535 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:28:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:27:13 +0100 From: dave henson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] andrew coleman 'demons' tripel records 002 X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.75] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 11:28:01.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFD0A600:01C4BA85] hello, any microsound journalists willing to help review the new andrew coleman record 'demons' released on tripel records in late november? this is the first time in which we are attempting to do our own press, so we are looking to gain valid contacts for future releases. if interested please mail off list with a link to your mag/zine etc/ & postal address to receive promo. more info can be read here http://www.tripelrecords.com/andrewcoleman.php and an mp'3 can be found in the wire mag's web exclusive section http://www.thewire.co.uk/ thanks for your time! dave tripel _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 12:25:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32634-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28552 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 28542 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:24:52 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Aquarium music X-Originating-IP: [138.40.30.81] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 12:25:02.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[A694EF30:01C4BA8D] --> Google for sound diffusion or -distribution. ... Harrison, J., 1998. 'Sound space, sculpture: some thoughts on the 'what', 'how' and 'why' of sound diffusion', Organised Sound.... As was posted here recently, there's an issue on sound diffusion in the CEC's journal, at econtact.ca --- scroll down to issue 2.4. Includes an article by the above-mentioned Jonty Harrison, among others. best, Ian _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 13:39:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32635-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 48861 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:39:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 48851 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:39:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] andrew coleman 'demons' tripel records 002 In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx very cool. nice production on the new coleman. its inspiring and simple. cant do better than that. for press reasons, i would suggest contacting aquarius records in san francisco. they run a very progressice reviews list and would certainly be interested in this/ if they havent already got their hands and heads on it. http://www.aquariusrecords.org/ thats the link. cheers/. brymoxine > hello, > > any microsound journalists willing to help review > the new andrew coleman > record 'demons' released on tripel records in late > november? this is the > first time in which we are attempting to do our own > press, so we are looking > to gain valid contacts for future releases. if > interested please mail off > list with a link to your mag/zine etc/ & postal > address to receive promo. > > more info can be read here > http://www.tripelrecords.com/andrewcoleman.php > and an mp'3 can be found in the wire mag's web > exclusive section > http://www.thewire.co.uk/ > > thanks for your time! > > dave tripel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mon Oct 25 15:59:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32636-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2029 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:59:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 2014 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:59:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT) From: sishi eater <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New Interfaces for Musical Expression In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx via http://www.filmcement.org/rummage/ this weblog has links for this... Experimental Musical Instrument Extravaganza: NIME 04 New Interfaces for Musical Expression is an annual conference where boffins from university media labs around the world deliver papers on current projects and show off all manner of nifty new experimental musical instruments and midi controllers. The website of this year’s conference, which was held in Shizuoka, Japan, has a complete set of the papers, which cover subjects like as optical turntables, eye-movement-triggered music software, Bluetooth-enabled taiko drumsticks, and something called a SillyTone Squish Factory. (Warning: High tech-speak content.) If these become too heavy-going, you can always just head over to the video/image gallery and enjoy clips of some of the performances. These include a laptop and electronic sitar trio (included in highlights clip), a live Gameboy composition, the ever-faithful pairing of violinist Mari Kimura and the GuitarBot, a two-person wind instrument called a Tooka, and Uriko Fujii’s “formula for orgasm between human and technology” which involves hair-bowing and a drum with a burst skin. enjoy, PoM:A _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 16:11:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32637-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9376 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:11:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 9364 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:11:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:11:01 +0200 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New Interfaces for Musical Expression In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bda2d5ca9f56@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >New Interfaces for Musical Expression is an annual >conference where boffins from university media labs >around the world deliver papers on current projects >and show off all manner of nifty new experimental >musical instruments and midi controllers. -See also: http://www.notam02.no/icma/interactivesystems/wg.html AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 16:40:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32638-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27461 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 27437 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:52 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:39:45 +0200 From: herv=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= boghossian <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LIST news and related ones This Week ! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA2F8F1.67A6%xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx-xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hi, 1/ Concert : 30.10.04 Les Abattoirs/VKS > Toulouse (fr) LIST 3 YEARS !!! label presentation (mix, debate, screening of T.Einfeldt "x@x") : 17h/19h @ VKS live performances by Colleen, Janek Schaefer and Hervé Boghossian : 20h @ Les Abattoirs (Museum of Modern and Contemporary Art Auditorium) http://www.volksystem.org 2/ Radio : "Etendue Blanche" (from "Mouvements", Raster-Noton) by Hervé Boghossian will be on the playlist of Christian Zanesi (Grm) broadcast "Fins de mois difficiles" on France Musiques and Hector at Between O1.OO AM to 03.OO AM (french time) on the night from 29/10 to 30/10 . check http://www.ina.fr/grm/agenda/index.fr.htm for digital repeats on HECTOR . 3 / New List Distributor : From this week ! 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Mon Oct 25 16:54:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32639-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.109]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35646 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:54:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 35636 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:54:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:54:14 +0100 From: filho da puta <xxxxx.xx.xxxx@xxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam X-Originating-IP: 194.65.22.20 Sender: filho da puta <xxxxx.xx.xxxx@xxxx.xx> To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: filho da puta <xxxxx.xx.xxxx@xxxx.xx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mail.pt 2.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: binary Content-disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx W21pY3Jvc291bmRdIHJlbWluZGVyIGNvbmNlcnQgdG9uaWdodCBpbiBBbXN0ZXJk YW0NCltwaG9ub2dyYXBoeV0gcmVtaW5kZXIgY29uY2VydCB0b25pZ2h0IGluIEFt c3RlcmRhbSAgDQpbbG93ZXJjYXNlLXNvdW5kXSByZW1pbmRlciBjb25jZXJ0IHRv bmlnaHQgaW4gQW1zdGVyZGFtICANCg0KciB1IHBsYXlpbmcgM3RpbWVzIDJuaXRl LCBtci4geHBvc3Rlcj8/Pw0KDQpuaSBhbW9yIG5pIGJlc29zDQpmZHANCi0tIA0K QWRpcmEgauEgYW8gTmV0IERpYWx1cCBMaWdodC4gQWNlc3NvIHByb2Zpc3Npb25h bCBncmF0dWl0by4NCk5vdmlzTmV0LCBhIEludGVybmV0IGRlIHF1ZW0gdHJhYmFs aGEuIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cubm92aXNuZXQucHQNCg0KDQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0NClRvIHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlLCBlLW1haWw6IG1pY3Jvc291bmQtdW5zdWJz Y3JpYmVAaHlwZXJyZWFsLm9yZw0KRm9yIGFkZGl0aW9uYWwgY29tbWFuZHMsIGUt bWFpbDogbWljcm9zb3VuZC1oZWxwQGh5cGVycmVhbC5vcmcNCndlYnNpdGU6IGh0 dHA6Ly93d3cubWljcm9zb3VuZC5vcmcNCg0K From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 17:24:50 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32640-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53599 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:24:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 53586 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:24:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Aquarium music In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx this method has been employed in service of architecture. toyo ito to be specific. in japan there is a water tower that responds to the same elements you mention, i.e. light , wind , temp, etc, and is expressed in the concert or irredescent materials used in the construction. your idea sounds very interesting. you could realize music of different geographies from a single point. music of genoa. music of san antonio. etc, by obtaining information off the internet, and feed into your simulation. best of luck. keep us apprised of your trials. bry. > I am becoming interested in a process I've been > calling the aquarium > method. In this, I imagine, one would construct a > virtual space, using > multiple channels, and place within it various sound > generators, which > would generate sound and move about the space in > response to various > global variables (in a wordly space, for instance, > these might > include temperature, wind speed, light, etc.). > Controlling these variables > would be the primary input during performance. > Generators might interact > with each other, or even effect certain global > parameters themselves. > > Does anyone know of any literature exploring this > technique? Or artists > or works that employ/explore it. Is it an > established practise? Is there a > vocabulary? > > Any information or commentary would be greatly > appreciated. > Thank you. > > Peace, > Galen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: > xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 19:03:05 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32641-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98264 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:53:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 98254 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:53:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: jorge castro <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] C.Works In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello microsound... my sound project cornucopia has a new release titled "c.works" which includes remixes from some list members like andrew duke, arden hill and kim c. info: http://www.zeromoon.com (US) http://www.assemblage.freeuk.com (UK) ciao. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mon Oct 25 20:00:09 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32642-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32507 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:00:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 32496 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:00:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:42 +0000 From: scott allison <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Dan Flavin [OT] X-Originating-IP: [68.165.209.33] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 20:00:02.0802 (UTC) FILETIME=[370F2D20:01C4BACD] Up now at the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, a retrospective of sculpture by Dan Flavin, (he worked with light as his primary medium). http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4056030 Best Scott Allison _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Mon Oct 25 20:07:02 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32643-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36617 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:06:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 36607 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:06:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:03:51 -0400 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dan Flavin [OT] In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx damn you and your cultured cities =) Peace, A On Oct 25, 2004, at 3:59 PM, scott allison wrote: > Up now at the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, a > retrospective of sculpture by Dan Flavin, (he worked with light as his > primary medium). > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4056030 > > Best > Scott Allison > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Mon Oct 25 20:30:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32644-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50257 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:30:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 50247 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:30:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] Dan Flavin [OT] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Funny, this show just left Chelsea in NY. -K -----Original Message----- From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Sent: Oct 25, 2004 1:03 PM To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dan Flavin [OT] damn you and your cultured cities =) Peace, A On Oct 25, 2004, at 3:59 PM, scott allison wrote: > Up now at the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, a > retrospective of sculpture by Dan Flavin, (he worked with light as his > primary medium). > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4056030 > > Best > Scott Allison > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Mon Oct 25 20:57:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32645-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68229 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:56:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 68052 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:56:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:57:23 -0400 From: doug van nort <xxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] New Interfaces for Musical Expression In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on that note, my current dept. (music technology) @ McGill in Montreal hosted the 2003 version of the NIME conference. Check it out here: http://hct.ece.ubc.ca/nime/2003/ includes proceedings in a single pdf. ,,,,,, dvnt On Oct 25, 2004, at 4:44 PM, sishi eater wrote: > via http://www.filmcement.org/rummage/ > > this weblog has links for this... > > Experimental Musical Instrument Extravaganza: NIME 04 > > New Interfaces for Musical Expression is an annual > conference where boffins from university media labs > around the world deliver papers on current projects > and show off all manner of nifty new experimental > musical instruments and midi controllers. The website > of this year’s conference, which was held in Shizuoka, > Japan, has a complete set of the papers, which cover > subjects like as optical turntables, > eye-movement-triggered music software, > Bluetooth-enabled taiko drumsticks, and something > called a SillyTone Squish Factory. (Warning: High > tech-speak content.) If these become too heavy-going, > you can always just head over to the video/image > gallery and enjoy clips of some of the performances. > These include a laptop and electronic sitar trio > (included in highlights clip), a live Gameboy > composition, the ever-faithful pairing of violinist > Mari Kimura and the GuitarBot, a two-person wind > instrument called a Tooka, and Uriko Fujii’s “formula > for orgasm between human and technology” which > involves hair-bowing and a drum with a burst skin. > > enjoy, > PoM:A > > _________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 23:18:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32646-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30031 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:18:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 30020 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:18:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:18:51 +0200 From: austere <xxxxxxxxx_xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <006801c4bae8$fd04b660$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2741.2600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi Kim! It was very, very awesome & inspiring to see you & Merzbow preforming live. Looking forward to listening to the "blackCube" & "Anti-Correlation" cds which I bought from you. will do so when my ears have recovered from the enormous volume you. once again thanks for the beauty you shared with us there! vincent. (youngh black bearded fellow). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:43 AM Subject: [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > Merzbow/Kim Casone > Monday Oct 25 > time 20:30 > Theater Frascati > 63 Nes, Amsterdam, > tel 020-6228690 for more info > > hope to see you there! > KIM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Oct 25 23:37:46 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32647-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 45979 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:37:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 45965 invoked from network); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:37:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] off-earth recording To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on smtp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thought I'd share the link as AFAIK it hasn't been posted yet ~ and it sure got me excited! I think this a first -- the potential for an off-earth microphone recording (of Titan's storms, should the Huygens probe make it safely near one...): http://www.astrobio.net/news/article1257.html Snagged off slashdot.org... aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 00:21:54 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32648-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 74681 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:21:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 74671 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:21:44 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:21:40 -0500 From: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] LP release + call for submissions To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: Chris Bryan <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eabmC/UP4Np/V4+KARxnbrpBGCS02RGwhZOhtjGCqsGQZ4mBqn7Lw+lxIRWrUaCNLPGCOLwAQe/3nG93WUvCp06gyHTGZ8VNaxb0lPAAW5zlRXW54M9AwAxNV9q6r0DCMrIOaUecI38rK3jOwEHgDZJIfrHOlyyD5L1AZIkGtYw= X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (1.8)sec.records release + call for submissions +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Release: (1.8)sec.records is pleased to announce the release of (1.8)sec.comp the first LP release for the label. (or any kind of release for that mater) +++++ cat# (1.8)sec001 title: (1.8)sec.comp Each artist on the compilation submitted a 1.8 second loop to be used as a lock groove. The loops were then randomly paired up with other artists on the compilation. The only limitation to what they could create was that their song would end with another artists lock groove. a.1 Taylor Deupree - untitled (lock: *0 - 1.8*0) a.2 Tim Hecker - untitled (lock: roal meelkop) a.3 Roel Meelkop - clok (lock: randomly generated data error created through file transfer.) a.4 Duul_Drv - you and me in the roda (lock: tim hecker) b.1 Richard Chartier - untitled(for 1.8) (lock: kim cascone) b.2 Mitchell Akiyama - temporal (lock: 3x3is9 - 1/2_|1||_) b.3 Kim Cascone - punctuated equilibrium (lock: duul_drv - au de costa) b.4 3x3is9 - (1.8)*144 [v.3] (lock: richard chartier) hand numbered addition of 500 white vinyl +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Call for submissions: (1.8)sec.records has an open ongoing call for 1.8 second sound files. The sound files can be sent as a .wav .aiff or .mp3. The sounds can be either a loop, single sound, or complete song but is restricted to 1.8 seconds. 1.8 seconds is the length of a lock groove on a record playing at 33 1/3 rpm. The idea is to have a collection of sounds and loops that other artists can download, use, and then post the finished song on the web page. Please email all contributions to this email address and include any info you wish to have with the loop. Thanks a lot, Chris Bryan -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| (1.8)sec.records www.1pt8.tk |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 01:43:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32649-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13334 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:43:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 13323 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:43:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] [ m a t z o ] To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xx.xxx.xx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Hostbaby Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [ a r c h i v e ] musique plastique by mike hallenbeck http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive ======================= [ immersion update ] ======================= Composed entirely from water sounds, Archive's full-length CD debut "Immersion: Water Works" has generated some fine notices: Italian magazine Neural says "E' la natura stessa delle vibrazioni emesse a guidare questo sound artist attraverso tutti i passaggi che vanno dalla registrazione all'editing, cercando il più possibile di non interferire sulla struttura delle registrazioni ed elaborando una successione classificabile degli eventi." I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it sounds nice to me! If anyone can translate this review better than Alta Vista does, I'd be much obliged: http://neural.it/rec/archiveimmersionwaterworks.htm CD Reviews.com has an informative review of the disc at http://cdreviews.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=112 Selected airplay outlets for "Immersion: Water Works" have so far included Boston, MA USA ("Abstract Terrain", WZBC 90.3 FM), Caen, France ("Matiere Brute", Radio 666, 99.1 FM), London, England ("Framework", Resonance 104.4 FM), Melbourne, Australia ("Possible Musics", 3CCC-FM 89.5 and "Symbiosis", 3RRR 102.7 FM), Minneapolis, MN USA ("Fubar Omniverse", KFAI 106.7 FM Minneapolis/ 106.7 FM St Paul), Toronto, Canada ("Feedback Monitor", CIUT 89.5 FM), and Zagreb, Croatia ("Inner Space", 1005 FM Radio Student). The album has also been the subject of profiles by City Pages (Minneapolis) and Minnesota Public Radio. Thanks to all who have helped spread the word about the CD! If anyone's interested in reviewing the disc or spinning it on the air, please feel free to contact me. Find out more about "Immersion : Water Works" at http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive/immersion ======================= [ nyc : the matzo files ] ======================= "Immersion : Water Works" is also featured as part of "The Matzo Files", a new, artist-run, non-profit collaborative project on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Streit's, the oldest family-owned matzo bakery in New York, has agreed to dsiplay work by 180 artists; each artist has a folder 20" x 16" devoted exclusively to his or her work and held in a flat file drawer. Hours of operation are Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday from 3 to 7 p.m. The opening is scheduled for November 7th, from 4-7 pm. Streit's is located on the northeast corner of Suffolk and Rivington Streets. My work will be filed under the name "Mike Hallenbeck". For more info: http://matzofiles.org/ ======================= [ mpls : novus ordo seclorum ] ======================= A brief digital film by Mike Hallenbeck called "Novus Ordo Seclorum" is currently on view as part of an exhibition called "Art of Democracy: Tools of Persuasion" at the Minneapolis Institute of Arts. The show is a forum for artists to express political sentiments. "Novus Ordo Seclorum" is a 15-second "microdocumentary" of the eye and pyramid on the back of a dollar bill (as well as the phrase "Novus Ordo Seclorum", Latin for "New World Order"), with audio derived from the crumpling of same. The exhibition is on view until November 28th. For more info: http://www.artsmia.org/exhibitions/details.cfm?EV_ID=1625 ======================= [ mpls : benefit performance : sat nov 6th ] ======================= I'll be doing an Archive performance to provide ambience for the annual silent auction benefitting the Women's Prison Book Project, Saturday November 6th at Intermedia Arts. The Women's Prison Book Project provides women and transgender–identified persons in prison with free reading materials. The group also raises consciousness on issues related to female incarceration: for example, eighty percent of women in prison are there for non–violent crimes-- and of the women convicted of violent crimes, the vast majority were convicted for defending themselves or their children from abuse. For more info on the event, or to learn more about the Women's Prison Book Project: http://www.prisonactivist.org/wpbp/ ======================= [ chicago : blind spot ] ======================= My field recordings were recently included on "crowd.situation_mass/compilation" by Keri Butler, an installment of the Blind Spot series of experimental radio works on Chicago's WLUW. "crowd.situation_mass/compilation" mixed various recordings of crowded public environments, including my documents of the New York Public Library and baggage claim at the Cloumbus, OH airport. http://www.stopgostop.com/blindspot/ ======================= [ americans : please VOTE on november 2nd! ] ======================= Anybody out there going to Third Coast in Chicago this weekend? See you there if so. Thanks for your time... Cheers, Mike Hallenbeck [ a r c h i v e ] http://www.juniorbirdman.com/archive --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 04:51:25 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32650-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 69230 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:51:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 69213 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:51:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:51:08 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam In-reply-to: <006801c4bae8$fd04b660$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <006801c4bae8$fd04b660$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Ah, I'm sure this was incredible. I saw Merzbow twice in december 2002 and it was excellent, as is the Rondo/7Phases/Blowback cd. Anthony On Oct 25, 2004, at 7:18 PM, austere wrote: > >> Merzbow/Kim Casone >> Monday Oct 25 >> time 20:30 >> Theater Frascati >> 63 Nes, Amsterdam, >> tel 020-6228690 for more info >> >> hope to see you there! >> KIM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 05:50:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32651-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90482 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:50:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 90469 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:50:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:49:40 +0000 From: bil bo <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] experimental music events in Britain X-Originating-IP: [84.65.131.41] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 05:50:01.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2549910:01C4BB1F] If anyone hears of any Merzbow concerts taking place in Britain, could they please email me and let me know? Also, i would be interested to hear about any experimental, noise or microsound events happening in the Southwest of England. Many thanks. Christopher Osborne > >Ah, I'm sure this was incredible. I saw Merzbow twice in december 2002 and >it was excellent, as is the Rondo/7Phases/Blowback cd. > >Anthony > >>>Merzbow/Kim Casone >>>Monday Oct 25 >>>time 20:30 >>>Theater Frascati >>>63 Nes, Amsterdam, >>>tel 020-6228690 for more info >>> >>>hope to see you there! >>>KIM > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >website: http://www.microsound.org > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 12:52:43 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32652-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98745 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:52:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 98734 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:52:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:52:48 +0200 From: uzekt <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] minimal and environmental party To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <005001c4bb5a$b2b1bd20$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_bITInndKZHG3czZwiPudHg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_bITInndKZHG3czZwiPudHg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit minimal and environmental party 2.12.04 @ la condition publique . Roubaix JAY dj set www.katalyse.org STABIL [ audiovisual performance ] MOLAIR live www.molair.net PITCH-VISUALIVE [ VIDEO EXPERIMENTS ] www.pîtch-visualive.org free entrance --Boundary_(ID_bITInndKZHG3czZwiPudHg)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 13:34:15 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32653-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17121 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:33:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 17111 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:33:48 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:33:36 +0100 From: "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] RIP John Peel In-reply-to: <006801c4bae8$fd04b660$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <006801c4bae8$fd04b660$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955289.stm one of the UK's greatest ever radio dj's has tragically passed. this was one man who did sooo very much for music in the uk over the last 35 years, i for one pay my respects to one of the absolute greats of radio. i was inspired by his late night radio shows that covered broad spectrum of new great music, most of which would probably have been ignored completely had it not been for him. we will miss you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 14:11:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32655-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36753 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:11:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 36722 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:11:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:11:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mika Martini <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] RIP John Peel In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ImGqYSzbZt8hUincRiXz7w)" Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_ImGqYSzbZt8hUincRiXz7w) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit .... tan lejos y tan cerca... siempre te recordaremos desde sudamerica, el lugar desde donde elegiste emitir tu último programa... Adios Mr. Peel. .... so far and so close... always we will remember to you from sudamerica, the place from where you chose to emit your last program... Good bye Mr. Peel. Mika Martini "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955289.stm one of the UK's greatest ever radio dj's has tragically passed. this was one man who did sooo very much for music in the uk over the last 35 years, i for one pay my respects to one of the absolute greats of radio. i was inspired by his late night radio shows that covered broad spectrum of new great music, most of which would probably have been ignored completely had it not been for him. we will miss you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org ------------------------------------------- [M!M] [SCL] [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! Noticias. --Boundary_(ID_ImGqYSzbZt8hUincRiXz7w)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 14:09:20 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32654-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34295 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:09:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 34275 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:09:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:23:52 -0400 From: chthonic streams <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] RE: [idm] John Peel has Died In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> X-Sender: chthonic%xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Cc: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p05210601bda40e3272c1@[64.63.223.68]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx it's like a giant void in independent music on the air now. no one else i can think of has taken up the torch for new bands like he did. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 14:42:24 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32656-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 50388 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:42:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 50197 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:41:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:41:50 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] workshop and concert in Lisbon To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_W9SjHxRvyv7oeKaJ0KH0GA)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_W9SjHxRvyv7oeKaJ0KH0GA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Workshop > Sonic Process > Kim Cascone "Emergent Content Creation Using Simple Genetic Algorithms" 15th to 17th Nov, 2004 at Espaço Atmosferas in Lisbon A workshop. A process. A working model for open source material. The creation of an experimental emergent sonic piece. In this workshop each participant acts as an active node in a creative network. Using software you normally use we will embark on an experiment to breed a piece of audio art. We will evolve a sound piece starting with a library of sound files provided by the .microsound list and then will mutate and cross-breed them until a work of sonic art emerges. The final piece will then be performed for the public by the group at the end of the workshop. Kim Cascone is a central figure in the development of electronic music. Collaborated with David Lynch and Staccato Systems as a Sound Designer. As an author, he has over 30 editions and collaborated with names such as Merzbow, Scanner, Keith Rowe, Tony Conrad. Has published articles in Computer Music Journal (MIT Press), Parachute Journal and is the founder of the microsound.org list. 17th November 19h - public presentation of the workshop results - and at 22h - concert with Kim Cascone at ZDB Gallery, in Lisbon. Info on www.atmosferas.net/sonic --Boundary_(ID_W9SjHxRvyv7oeKaJ0KH0GA)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 16:38:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32657-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9714 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:38:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 9704 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:38:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:38:38 +0200 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] festival: biosphere/thaemlitz/beequeen etc. To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJIEBPELAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear all, aufabwegen is very proud to announce it's geraeuschwelten festival. here are the infos: geraeuscwhelten at klangzeit-muenster, germany live performances by: 03.11.2004, 22.00h KONTAKT DER JUENGLINGE (= Asmus Tietchens + Thomas Koener) & THUJA 04.11.2004, 22.00h BIOSPHERE & BEEQUEEN 05.11.2004, 22.00h CHRIS MANN (Machines For Making Sense) & TERRE THAEMLITZ all concerts start shatrp at 22.00h each night. all concerts take place at: cuba, achtermannstr. 12, 48143 muenster, germany info & tickets at: http://www.klangzeit-muenster.de further infos: http://www.aufabwegen.com and http://www.geraeuschwelten.de thanks for your time! ----------------- a u f a b w e g en magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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(1.8)sec.comp is available through www.1pt8.tk -chris -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| (1.8)sec.records www.1pt8.tk |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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THANK YOU! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework - phonography/field recording; contextual and decontextualized sound activity presented by patrick mcginley this was our second edition of our new feature program framework:focus, this one focusing on the work of chris watson, raw field recording and compositional "time compression" featured over three releases for the touch record label, as well as a recent schools project initiated by FACT (the foundation for art and creative technology) in liverpool. wildtracks:24 was led by watson as 6 VI formers from croxteth school in liverpool explored the possibilities of environmental recording as each composed their own piece using free software based on their recordings. in this edition we hear the students introducing their own pieces, while watson talks us through the project and takes us through his history from his favorite spot on the beach at druridge bay in northumberland. for any more info on chris watson, his work, or releases, see his website at http://www.chriswatson.net. for more information about FACT's projects and programs, see their website at http://www.fact.co.uk. our next edition of framework:focus airs on the 19th of november, and features german sound artist marc behrens and his architectural commentaries series. we return this friday, the 29th of october, and two weeks later on the 12th of november in our usual framework format with stacks of new arrivals for your listening pleasure! again, we are always looking for material for the show, whether raw field recordings, field recording based composition or introduction submissions. send material, released or not, on any format, to the address below. we are also hoping to have live performances as often as possible, so if you are in or passing through london please get in touch! framework 31 nevill road london n16 8sl uk xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20.08.04 this edition will be rebroadcast this wednesday, 27.10.04, at 11:00am bst ~ time zone converter: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/?h=11&mn=00&ap=am&mo=10&d=27&y=2004&f=GB (artist / title / album / label) all quotes by each track's credited artist chris watson / low pressure / stepping into the dark / touch "wind wherever the sound recordist operates is an obvious nuisance...the remarkable thing here, in glen cannich, was that i could walk through the foci of these wind sounds within few paces, as if being part of some great instrument..." jonathan jones / urban jungle / wildtracks:24 / - "...my piece represents inner-city life with a mix of animal and manmade sounds..." chris watson / a passing view / stepping into the dark / touch "today, fai, a local fisherman, took un into the huge mangrove forests at los olivitos by canoe...curiosity forced my return that night when i heard and recorded these mechanical sounds of fishing bats in the darkness..." chris watson / unidentified pair of birds / outside the circle of fire / touch "...singing hidden in a tree canopy.dry tropical rain forest, nancite, costa rica. feb, 1995." sean summerskill / positive impact / wildtracks:24 / - "...martial arts has ben a big part of my life for the past seven, eight years, so i choose to make a piece about the dynamics of fighting..." chris watson / hippopotami / outside the circle of fire / touch "the masai say the hippos spend the day on the river bed telling jokes, and then surface at dusk to laugh..." chris watson / adult cheetah / outside the circle of fire / touch "...resting by baobab tree, pamuzinda, zimbabwe june, 1994." christopher hansen / forward reverse / wildtracks:24 / - "...my soundscape is a mirror image of a journey into the city of liverpool, and then returning..." chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch "...listening to the wooden chimes of the tree frogs, we were met by heavy rhythm, a wall of nocturnal sound..." gary wave / the big match / wildtracks:24 / - "...i'm interested in football. my piece is to show the atmosphere of a major football match..." chris watson / vultures / outside the circle of fire / touch "...feeding on a zebra carcass...i was able to fix to omnidirectional 'personal' mics about 20 cms apart inside the exposed ribcage of the animal..." chris watson / vatnajökull / weather report / touch "the 10,000 year climatic journey of ice formed deep within this icelandic glacier and it's lingering flow into the norwegian sea." danny king / circle / wildtracks:24 / - "i've done a project on the rhythm of life. i decided to mix it up...to make it not as obvious...the title speaks for itself." mike carter / make tea not war / wildtracks:24 / - "...a fight between two kids while the parents are out of the room, and then they realise they have to clean it up before they get back in and tell them off..." chris watson / the blue men of the minch / stepping into the dark / touch "...five meters beneath the surface of the moray firth and directly over a particularly deep water channel, common seals roar during their diving displays. within a 1km radius of the hydrophone, bottle-nosed dolphins navigate and hunt using echo locating clicks..." *apologies to any of the featured students for any potential mispellings of names -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- framework intro submissions: 1) take yourself and an audio recording device to a location of your choice 2) record for AT LEAST 1 minute before you - 3) read the following text: welcome to framework. framework is a show consecrated to field recording, and it's use in composition. field recording, phonography, the art of sound-hunting; open your ears and listen! 4) continue your recording for AT LEAST 2 minutes after you've finish speaking 5) send the recording on any format to the address above, or as an mp3 via email thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the framework 2003 cd has been reprinted and is now once again available directly from the resonancefm online shop, along with a selection of other benefit cds, t-shirts, and general paraphernalia. drop in here to have a look: http://www.resonancefm.com/shop.php framework 2003 resonancefm benefit cd featuring highlights from the year's broadcasting rob grant & melanie clifford / framework intro thomas dimuzio / unearth & lift and spear / sonicism / rrrecords chris watson / river mara at night / stepping into the dark / touch johannes helden / - / sketchbook / trente oiseaux toy bizarre / - / kdi dctb 116 / absurd murmer / liquid solid / definition / absurd jgrzinich & seth nehil / the distant edge / confluence / intransitive seth nehil & jgrzinich / the mirrored corner / stria / erewhon annette lissauer / framework intro toby paddock / air, surface and magnetic vibrations / - / - steve roden / - / resonant cities / trente oiseaux francisco lopez / untitled #101 / untitled (2000) / ignis projekt mnortham / ancient sewer pipe, valletta, malta / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org the quiet american / donkey trains leaving marpha, nepal / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org steve barsotti / trainyard presence / phonography.org 5 / phonography.org k. m. krebs / jericho sailing center (nautical gamelan) / phonography.org 4 / phonography.org david daniell / highway 371, forty miles south of farmington, january 19, 1998, 2:25 pm / sem / antiopic joyce hinterding / - / spectral / antiopic/sigma editions david daniell / dixon lake road, july 31, 1999, 5:45 am / sem / antiopic tacet ncv / live on framework jean-luc guionnet & bertrand denzler / live on framework dallas simpson / framework intro --Boundary_(ID_RtyvGN/3fHBoxMnJmfIDvA)-- From ???@??? Tue Oct 26 21:05:12 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32660-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 53218 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:05:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 53207 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:05:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:04:27 +0000 From: ian stewart <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Telefonica Foundation competition X-Originating-IP: [194.82.116.4] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 21:05:04.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[773913C0:01C4BB9F] I got this on the CEC list, and with some discussion here on genetic algorithms etc, I thought it may interest a few people. Apologies if this was posted before. best, Ian fwd ------> LIFE 7.0 International Competition - Call for Participation Announcing the sixth edition of the competition on "art and artificial life" sponsored by the Telefonica Foundation in Madrid. We are looking for outstanding electronic art projects employing techniques such as digital genetics, autonomous robotics, recursive chaotic algorithms, knowbots, computer viruses, wetware, embodied artificial intelligence, avatars, evolving behaviours and virtual ecosystems. An international jury -- Chris Csikszentmihalyi (US), Daniel Garcia Andujar (Spain), Rafael Lozano-Hemmer (Mexico/Canada), Jose-Carlos Mariategui (Peru), Fiona Raby (UK) and Nell Tenhaaf (Canada)-- will grant four cash awards totaling 20,000 Euros. The competition's website at http://www.vidalife.org has the guidelines, application form, and information on the previous award-winners, including texts, videos, images and links. Deadline: Wednesday, November 3, 2004. Deadline extension of one week likely (watch the website). For further information, please visit http://www.vidalife.org For questions concerning eligibility of entries: Nell Tenhaaf, Artistic Director <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx> _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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MILFORD GRAVES / JOHN ZORN Track: Inserted Space Album: 50th Birthday Celebration Volume Two Label: Tzadik Arrancamos el programa de esta semana desde Nueva York, con una serie de lanzamientos realizados por John Zorn desde su propio sello Tzadik, junto a varios amigos y colaboradores, con el fin de conmemorar su 50 cumpleaños, cumplidos en septiembre del año pasado. El primer volúmen de la serie fue protagonizado por el Masada String Trio bajo la dirección de John Zorn. Comenzamos sin embargo esta especie de homenaje a John Zorn con el segundo, un disco grabado por él mismo, al saxo alto, junto a Milford Graves, en la percusión, un veterano músico con el que lleva trabajando varios años, y cuyo último trabajo vio la luz en Tzadik Set up of this week's programme from New York, with a series of releases carried out by John Zorn from his own Tzadik label, close to several friends and collaborators, with the purpose of commemorating his 50th birthday, September last year. The first volume of the series was played by the Masada String Trío under the direction of John Zorn. However, we begin this homage to John Zorn with the second, a record with himself in the alto sax and Milford Graves in the percussion, a veteran musician with whom Zorn have been working for several years, and whose last work was released by Tzadik 02. LOCUS SOLUS Track: That Scene Album: 50th Birthday Celebration Volume Three Label: Tzadik Tercer volúmen de la serie de grabaciones en directo conmemorativas del 50 cumpleaños de John Zorn, en este caso junto a otros dos legendarios neoyorkinos, el cantante y guitarrista Arto Lindsay y el batería Anton Fier, de Golden Palominos. Los tres formaron en 1982 un combo de rock improvisado llamado Locus Solus, reunido de nuevo especialmente para la ocasión We listen to the third volume of the series of recordings commemorative of John Zorn's 50th anniversary, in this case together with another two legendary newyorkers, singer and guitarist Arto Lindsay and drummer Anton Fier, of Golden Palominos. The three formed in 1982 an improvised rock combo called Locus Solus, gathered again especially for the occasion 03. ELECTRIC MASADA Track: Hath-Arob Album: 50th Birthday Celebration Volume Four Label: Tzadik Del tercer al cuarto volúmen de esta serie de lanzamientos que celebran el 50 cumpleaños de John Zorn, una grabación desde su sala en Nueva York, Tonic, que presenta a nuestro protagonista junto a grandes maestros de la improvisación, como Marc Ribot, Trevor Dunn o Ikue Mori, entre varios artistas más hasta un total de 8, formando un combo de improvisación intensa y lírica a la vez llamado Electric Masada From the third to the fourth volume of this series of releases that celebrate John Zorn's 50th birthday, a recording from his club in New York, Tonic, that presents Zorn with some masters of the improvisation, as Marc Ribot, Trevor Dunn or Ikue Mori, between several more artists until a total of 8, forming an improvising combo intense and lyrical at the same time, called Electric Masada 04. FRED FRITH / JOHN ZORN DUO Track: Alecto Album: 50th Birthday Celebration Volume Five Label: Tzadik Continuamos con John Zorn y el quinto de los volúmenes de celebración de su 50 cumpleaños, en este caso otra grabación desde el Tonic que documenta su colaboración en directo con otro gran maestro de la improvisación, el reconocido multiinstrumentista Fred Frith -en este caso a la guitarra-, con quien Zorn lleva trabajando desde 1978 Fifth celebration volume of his 50th birthday, this time another recording from Tonic that documents their live collaboration with another great master of improvisation, the acknowledged multi-instrumentist Fred Frith -this time on guitar-, with whom Zorn keeps working since 1978 05. HEMOPHILIAC Track: 6 Album: 50th Birthday Celebration Volume Six Label: Tzadik Tzadik ha editado ya el séptimo volúmen de este 50th Birthday Celebration, a cargo de Masada, el grupo clásico de John Zorn, pero finalizamos esta especie de homenaje al compositor y saxofonista neoyorkino, con el sexto volúmen de la serie conmemorativa de su 50 cumpleaños, otra grabación protagonizada por John Zorn en la que también participan muchos de sus amigos y colaboradores. Esta vez se trata de Hemophiliac, el combo formado por Zorn al saxo, Ikue Mori al laptop y Mike Patton a la voz Tzadik has already released the seventh volume of this 50th Birthday Celebration series with Masada, John Zorn's classic group, though we are ending this kind of homage to New York composer and saxophonist with the sixth volume in the series, another recording played by John Zorn in which many of their friends and collaborators also participate. This time it is Hemophiliac, formed by Zorn at the saxo, Ikue Mori on the laptop and Mike Patton in the voice 06. DÄLEK Track: 1 Album: Absence Label: Ipecac Adelanto de un disco previsto para principios del año que viene en el sello Ipecac, dirigido por el propio Mike Patton. Se trata del tercer álbum para un combo de hip-hop llamado Dälek, un trío renovador del género que hace algunos meses presentaba en el sello Staubgold un disco de colaboración junto a la legendaria banda alemana Faust Advance of a record foreseen for the beginning of next year in the Ipecac label, managed by Mike Patton. It is the third album for the hip-hop outfit Dälek, a trio renovating the gender that some months ago presented a collaboration record with the legendary German band Faust in the Staubgold label 07. KAZUMICHI_GRIME Track: Message Album: Mu EP Label: Conv Última novedad del netlabel Conv, que opera desde Madrid, aunque su catálogo incluye artistas procedentes de las más diversas partes del mundo: Suecia, Estados Unidos, Argentina... En este caso, escuchamos a Tobias Kazumichi Grime, un artista sonoro y visual residente en Sydney, Australia, que utiliza diferentes herramientas electrónicas para construir trabajos como este "Mu" EP Last novelty of the Conv netlabel, operating from Madrid, although its catalog includes artists coming from the most diverse parts of the world: Sweden, United States, Argentina... In this case, we listen to Tobias Kazumichi Grime, a sound and visual artist residing in Sydney, Australia, that uses different electronic tools to build his works, like this Mu EP 08. M __ Track: Post-War Album: Ilion EP Label: Entity M __ es un artista también conocido por el sobrenombre Ubeboet y que responde al nombre real de Miguel Ángel Tolosa, procedente igualmente de Madrid, autor de numerosas piezas editadas en varios netlabels como Enough, Mirakelmusik, o el netlabel belga Entity, que publica este "Ilion" EP M __ is an artist also known by the Ubeboet moniker who answers to the real name of Miguel Ángel Tolosa, equally procedent of Madrid. Author of numerous pieces released in several netlabels like Enough, Mirakelmusik, or the Belgian netlabel Entity, that releases this Ilion EP 09. ERRATIC remixed by TIRRIDDILIU Track: [Gravitational Lens] Album: Activation Fields Label: Entity Esta es otra novedad de Entity, un sello que funciona a través de internet con base en Bélgica y que dirigen dos artistas, Nico de Gols y Jan Robbe, que sonaban hace un par de semanas en Onda Sonora con su proyecto en común Duncan Avoid. Escucharemos a Erratic, proyecto en solitario del segundo, en esta ocasión remezclado por el italiano Dario Sanfilippo, Tirriddiliu This is another new recording on Entity, a label that works through the internet, with base in Belgium and managed by two artists, Nico of Gols and Jan Robbe, who appeared two weeks ago in Onda Sonora with their project Duncan Avoid. Today we listen to Erratic, solo project of the second, in this occasion remixed by the Italian Dario Sanfilippo, Tirriddi 10. ERRATIC Track: Gravitational Lens Album: Activation Fields Label: Entity Jan Robbe, Erratic, con el mismo corte de inspiración espacial, "Gravitational Lens", ahora en su versión original Jan Robbe, Erratic, with the same track of spatial inspiration, "Gravitational Lens", now in its original version 11. TIRRIDDILIU + HACKERONTE Track: Secondo Movimento Album: Elettra Label: Entity Finalizamos nuestra excursión por el netlabel belga Entity con otra de sus últimas publicaciones, la colaboración entre los italianos Dario Sanfilippo, Tirriddiliu, y Simone Bionda, Hackeronte, que proponen una revisión del famoso mito de Electra, en este EP de tres movimientos inspirado en el asesinato y la venganza del clásico de Sófocles We conclude our trip through the Belgian netlabel Entity with another of its last releases, the collaboration between the Italian Dario Sanfilippo, Tirriddiliu, and Simone Bionda, Hackeronte, proposing a revision of the famous myth of Electra, in this EP of three movements inspired by the murder and the revenge in the classic of Sophocles 12. PEP GAYA Track: Scubby Dub Album: VA- Epitome Volume 1 Label: Klitekture Volvemos a nuestro país, a las oficinas de Klitekture Records, el sello minimalista dirigido por Luís Ortíz -director también del netlabel Synergy-Networks-, donde pasaremos los minutos finales de la sesión de esta semana. Suena un EP protagonizado por varios artistas, entre ellos Andreas Tilliander, Lod, Tomas Jirku, Johan Skugge y Pep Gaya, un dj catalán que hace algunos meses publicaba su EP de debut en Klitekture We return to Spain, to the Klitekture Records' offices, the minimalist label directed by Luís Ortíz -also manager of the Synergy-Networks netlabel-, where the final minutes of today's session will happen. This is an EP featured by several artists: Andreas Tilliander, Lod, Tomas Jirku, Johan Skugge and Pep Gaya, a Catalan dj that some months ago released his debut EP in Klitekture 13. TONNE Track: Vollmeri Album: Lilium Label: Klitekture Finalizamos la sesión de esta semana con el nuevo trabajo de Tonne: "Lilium", un CD editado por Klitekture Records desde Las Palmas de Gran Canaria. Paul Farrington, Tonne, es un reputado artista no sólo en el terreno sonoro sino también en el visual, como diseñador gráfico y de instalaciones audiovisuales We conclude this week's session with the new work by Tonne: "Lilium", a CD released by Klitekture Records from Las Palmas de Gran Canaria. Paul Farrington, Tonne, is a reputed artist not only in the sound terrain but also in the visual one, as a graphic designer and audiovisual installation designer ______ Nota: Este mensaje no ha sido solicitado, pero consideramos que podría interesarte. De no ser así, responde con un mensaje titulado "borrame" y serás inmediatamente eliminado del mailing. Muchas gracias Note: This is an undemanded message, but we have considered it could be interesting for you. 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Tue Oct 26 22:10:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32662-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78706 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:09:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 78689 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:09:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:14:18 -0400 From: richard chartier / LINE <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Re: Dan Flavin at the national gallery of art DC. putting it on topic In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_trwd6ZEn6OE7Gp85IckgIw)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_trwd6ZEn6OE7Gp85IckgIw) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit one of my favourite things about his work is the sound that they make. especially when you are walking through a field of his works. the low subtle buzzing. each color seems to have its own pitch.... i love it unintentional sound art. r R I C H A R D C H A R T I E R http://www.3particles.com xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx <<< CD . 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Tue Oct 26 22:19:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32663-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83160 invoked by uid 1095); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:19:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 83147 invoked from network); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:19:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:19:27 -0700 From: Bill Jarboe <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: Dan Flavin at the national gallery of art DC. putting it on topic In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA41B7F.8D3D%xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx on 10/26/04 3:14 PM, richard chartier / LINE at xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote: > one of my favourite things about his work is the sound that they make. > especially when you are walking through a field of his works. > > the low subtle buzzing. > each color seems to have its own pitch.... > > i love it > > unintentional sound art. > r u s a for short? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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Wed Oct 27 01:15:45 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32665-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75283 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:15:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 75243 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:15:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:15:32 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] xposting To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > [phonography] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > [lowercase-sound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > > r u playing 3times 2nite, mr. xposter??? for those of you unfamiliar with the term 'crossposting': crossposting is when you send one piece of email to multiple lists *at the same time* it is not crossposting when one piece of mail is sent to multiple lists at *different* times... hence I did not xpost! :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 03:09:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32666-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18455 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:09:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 18439 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:09:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:09:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] xposting In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam >> [phonography] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam >> [lowercase-sound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam >> >> r u playing 3times 2nite, mr. xposter??? > > for those of you unfamiliar with the term 'crossposting': > crossposting is when you send one piece of email to multiple lists *at the > same time* > it is not crossposting when one piece of mail is sent to multiple lists at > *different* times... > hence I did not xpost! :) I don't know if I see the difference. If you're on all 3 lists, you will still get the same email 3x. If anything, I'd prefer to get them all at once, so I can delete them all at the same time, rather than separately. P +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ { Phil Thomson { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson { label: http://centibel.org/ { group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 07:43:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32667-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88681 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 88670 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:43:42 +0200 From: stephan mathieu <xxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] 3 Evenings in Magenta, Cyan, Yellow / 04-06. november VHS zentrum saarbruecken In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <R02010400-1035-ED33A3BC27EB11D986B3000A9566490E@[80.138.227.40]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.1.4 (Blindsider) Demo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx hello heres some information on 3 evenings i'm curating for the electricity festival in my hometown saarbruecken, germany (close to frankfurt, metz, nancy, strassburg, luxemburg). you'll find more info (sorry, only in german) at http://www.bitsteam.de/VHS.pdf (256KB) - stephan -- ELECTRICITY 2004 presents 3 Evenings in Magenta, Cyan, Yellow @ VHS Zentrum am Schloss Saarbruecken, Germany -- > THURSDAY, 04.11.2004 D R E A M S T O P R O C K: FENNESZ Vienna (Touch / Mego) ANIMAL COLLECTIVE Brooklyn (Fat Cat / Pawn Tracks) PLURAMON featuring JULEE CRUISE Cologne, New York (Karaoke Kalk / A-Musik / Mille Plateaux / David Lynch's "Twin Peaks") www.fennesz.com www.touchmusic.org.uk www.mego.at www.paw-tracks.com www.fat-cat.co.uk www.karaoke-kalk.de -- > FRIDAY, 05.11.2004 S H O W C A S E: SCION FEATURING PAUL ST. HILAIRE (t.a.f.k.a. TIKIMAN)/ PAUL-DAVID ROLLMANN Carrebean Islands, Berlin, Frankfurt (Chain Reaction / Rhythm&Sound / Burial Mix / Main Street / Tresor / Club Robert Johnson) www.basicchannel.com www.scion.de www.airbag.com www.robert-johnson.de -- > SATURDAY, 06.11.2004 S O U L C E N T E R: THOMAS BRINKMANN Cologne (Mute / Max Ernst / Traum / Minus) ROGER23 Saarbruecken (Swayzak Soundsystem / Swayzak Records / 240 Volts) www.max-ernst.de http://roger23.usuel.org www.swayzak.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 08:08:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32668-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.114]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96298 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:08:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 96287 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:08:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:08:06 -0700 From: brad <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: RE: [microsound] xposting In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Thread-index: AcS70mqlJDkRRpUgQCSw+Qow9igFGwAKY36Q Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Antivirus-Scanner: This message has been scanned by ClamAV / Web hosting by http://www.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - voyager.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - henrickson.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The difference is that rules and headers get processed differently by mail clients between the two different scenarios. Not everyone is on microsound, lowercase and phonography at the same time. Brad -- Create oneself as art... > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Thomson [mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:10 PM > To: microsound > Subject: Re: [microsound] xposting > > >> [microsound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > >> [phonography] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > >> [lowercase-sound] reminder concert tonight in Amsterdam > >> > >> r u playing 3times 2nite, mr. xposter??? > > > > for those of you unfamiliar with the term 'crossposting': > > crossposting is when you send one piece of email to multiple lists *at > the > > same time* > > it is not crossposting when one piece of mail is sent to multiple lists > at > > *different* times... > > hence I did not xpost! :) > > I don't know if I see the difference. If you're on all 3 lists, you will > still get the same email 3x. If anything, I'd prefer to get them all at > once, so I can delete them all at the same time, rather than separately. > > P > > > > +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ > { Phil Thomson > { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > { label: http://centibel.org/ > { group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 08:27:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32669-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3243 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:27:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 3233 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:27:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:27:16 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] hums around the world To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.thingsmagazine.net/ 2004_10_01_oldthings.htm#109869096289693057 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 10:24:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32670-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33961 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:24:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 33949 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:24:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:24:54 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen?= Larsson <xxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Madrid project at DETOX in Bergen? X-Sender: xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p0611040bbda527b97be7@[192.168.1.2]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hallo. -- - --- This is for the participants of the Madrid Project. --- --- - Other list members: Sorry for the interruption. --- I am curating an exhibition in Bergen next month and I want to include the Madrid project. If I get your permission, I would like to do this: In the Kunsthall where the exhibition is shown, there is a very quiet cafe. In this room, there have been lots of different happenings and shows, mostly music, electronic art and video art. http://www.kunsthall.no/landmark I want to present your project as an ambient installation the 28. of November. Filling the room with white light and playing back the tracks in a loop all Sunday from 12-18. Your texts about the project will accompany the presententation, together with the flash on the web, both to be screened on one large wall. I have no budget, but will make sure to present your work in the best possible way. The playback system is 4 channel, but I will use it as a double stereo set. Could you please reply off-list if this is OK with you? Is there more material to be collected and presented? Have you any other thoughts and recommandations? The DETOX website is here: htttp://www.detox.no/ Best, Jørgen Larsson http://www.nossral.org/ http://www.lepra.org/ http://www.leddlyd.no/ http://www.talsmann.no/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 12:49:59 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32671-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66760 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:49:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 66750 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:49:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:49:52 +0100 From: David William Newman <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Re: RIP John Peel In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Remote_Addr: 81.137.91.226 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx My thoughts go out to John's family.... a lovely man... to whom so many owe so much.... David @ Audiobulb Mika Martini writes: > ... tan lejos y tan cerca... siempre te recordaremos desde sudamerica, el lugar desde donde elegiste emitir tu último programa... Adios Mr. Peel. > > ... so far and so close... always we will remember to you from sudamerica, the place from where you chose to emit your last program... Good bye Mr. Peel. > > > Mika Martini > > "xxxx@xxxxx.xxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955289.stm > > one of the UK's greatest ever radio dj's has tragically passed. this was > one man who did sooo very much for music in the uk over the last 35 years, > i for one pay my respects to one of the absolute greats of radio. > i was inspired by his late night radio shows that covered broad spectrum > of new great music, most of which would probably have been ignored > completely had it not been for him. > > we will miss you. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > > ------------------------------------------- > [M!M] [SCL] > [www.mikamartini.scd.cl] > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. > Visíta Yahoo! 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Wed Oct 27 15:38:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32672-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39755 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:38:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 39742 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:38:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:38:27 -0400 From: Anthony Saunders <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: RIP John Peel In-reply-to: <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> <xxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xx@xxxxxxx.xx.xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The Napalm Death (lee dorian/bill steer line up) peel sessions number among my all time favorite audio recordings. And joy division, autechre, melt banana, etc etc... As far as I can tell, his contribution to popular music is among the greatest made by a non-musician. Anthony On Oct 27, 2004, at 8:49 AM, David William Newman wrote: > My thoughts go out to John's family.... a lovely man... to whom so > many owe so much.... > David @ Audiobulb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Wed Oct 27 22:44:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32673-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75006 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:44:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 74978 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:44:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:43:53 +0300 From: niko <xxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Ovro & Niko Skorpio : Live in Placard #7 CD To: xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, xxxxxxxx-x@xxx.xxx, x@xxxxxxxx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Organization: Moo Chaocrates [kaaos.org] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx News from Some Place Else - 2004/10/27 ............................................................. New release ~ OVRO & NIKO SKORPIO : Live in Placard #7 CD cat.no: SPECD04032 format: CD release date: 2004/11/06 Edition of 500 copies, hand-numbered. * Special very limited edition with bonus CDR and hand-made package also available soon * More info: http://www.someplaceelse.net/releases/?id=specd04032 Buy online: http://www.someplaceelse.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=333 Recorded live in Placard #7 Headphone Festival, Helsinki, Finland on May 22, 2004. Ovro starts quietly and calmly, gradually raising volume and tension. Her brand of uneasy listening combines digital sound manipulation, creepy soundscapes and ominous(?!?) vocals to invoke a multitude of feelings and a view to a world where not everything is right. The artists change on the fly, and their sets are welded seamlessly together by an improvised piece performed together as SkorpiOvro. Niko Skorpio presents his mix of dark ambience, sample-ridden psychedelia and heavy broken rhythms in a dynamic, morphing form. Towards the end Niko invokes his twisted digital-grindcore alter ego Reptiljan that vomits a short, fierce attack of blastbeats and breaks & noise. Reptiljan provided the sounds for what was perhaps the first ever incident of stage-diving in the history of Placard! Placard is a new kind of festival where people come with their headphones to sit down and actually listen to the music. The venues also provide MP3 or Ogg Vorbis live streams to other listening rooms ("placards") out there. Placard #7 was a three-month, non-stop, self-organising festival of headphones listening taking place across the globe and streamed online. The particular event where this recording was captured, was held in an apartment in Helsinki, with listening slots in France, Belgium and Italy. Niko Skorpio and Ovro continue their work both solo and together as Skorp-i-Ovro. They are also involved in a number of other projects and groups (Kaaos In Eccentris, Rajapïnta, Reptiljan etc.) and collaborate with several artists worldwide. Future releases: Niko Skorpio : The Hidden Nameless (album, Foreshadow Productions, Poland, December 2004) Ovro : Mosaick the Serpent (EP, Some Place Else, Finland, early 2005) Ovro: http://kaaos.org/ovro Niko Skorpio: http://nikoskorpio.net/ .......... SPECIAL OFFER ......... All orders for "Live in Placard #7" made before Nov 6 get free shipping anywhere in the world! Only 10,- EUR everywhere. + As usual, wholesale terms available for stores and distributors upon request. Trades possible, please get in touch first. Thank you. ............................................................. Live Action ~ 2004/11/06 : TriAngelick Trepanations SQUIDRAW (Fra/Bos/Fin) * Ibrahim Terzic, Antoine Verhaverbeke, Frederick Arana COSINE NOMINE (Fin) * aka Sine Nomine SKORP-I-OVRO (Fin) * Ovro & Niko Skorpio @ Living Room, Turku, Finland More info: http://www.someplaceelse.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149 .......... 2004/10/28 : HELSINKI COMPUTER ORCHESTRA @ Sibelius Academy, Helsinki, Finland Free entry! Everybody within reach, come! More info: http://www.siba.fi/fin/konsertit/ohjelmisto/tapahtuma.php?event_id=874 ............................................................. Thanks for your attention. Feel free to spread the word! Niko -- ............................................................. Some Place Else http://www.someplaceelse.net P.O. 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Wed Oct 27 22:50:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32674-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.112]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta18.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78576 invoked by uid 1095); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:50:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 78566 invoked from network); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:50:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Visualizing audio tape "tampering" In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/553/Tue Oct 26 15:05:09 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-10/nios-ns102604.php First para: "The Department of Commerce's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has developed a real-time magnetic imaging system that enables criminal investigators to "see" signs of tampering in audiotapes---erasing, overdubbing and other alterations---while listening to the tapes." 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Thu Oct 28 02:29:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32675-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63361 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:29:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 63349 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:29:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:20:16 +1300 From: ".turnstyle" <xxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Visualizing audio tape "tampering" In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx.xx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06110405bda607d3711e@[192.168.1.1]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx@xxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-10/nios-ns102604.php > >First para: > >"The Department of Commerce's National Institute of Standards and >Technology (NIST) has developed a real-time magnetic imaging system that >enables criminal investigators to "see" signs of tampering in >audiotapes---erasing, overdubbing and other alterations---while listening >to the tapes." > >Graphic shows how imaging "reveals where a write head (taping event) >stopped as a series of smudges or streaks on a film strip." > [][][][][][][][][][][] tech.bot [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? 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(Abflug) 21-02, free www.abflugrec.com www.mbar.fi Saturday, Nov 27 @ Kipsari, Helsinki, FIN Hinterlandt (Grain of Sound, Abflug / Cologne, GER) Silmu (URA / Helsinki) Verhaverbeke Krzyzosiak (Abflug / Helsinki) Karri O. (Abflug / Helsinki) live performances, 21-02, 4 EUR www.hinterlandt.com www.abflugrec.com ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 10:27:53 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32677-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95095 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:27:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 95084 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:27:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:27:46 +0200 (CEST) From: xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx Subject: [microsound] Berlin ? To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ircam.fr X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hello the list, i'm going to Berlin next week-end, and i was wondering if there were some concerts or other musical events. if someone could give me some information i would be very happy !! cheers, j --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 10:34:16 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32678-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 98110 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:34:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 98039 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:33:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 05:34:17 -0500 From: john kannenberg <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] New Release @ Stasisfield: john kannenberg X-Originating-IP: 209.86.104.37 X-Sender: xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx@mail.stasisfield.com To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <p06002000bda67afeb1f7@[209.86.104.103]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-ELNK-Trace: 8044adbcdf4a5156069ad2b59907cf439ef193a6bfc3dd484182c78d443b702fa3d970ff90b6ea1f80a966c17e7b0748350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx + Stasisfield announces its latest free mp3 release: -------------------------------------------------------- SF-3008 : Four Painters :: john kannenberg -------------------------------------------------------- Stasisfield founder john kannenberg's latest release consists of sonic illustrations representing the visual works of four prominent 20th century painters. "For Paul Klee" uses violin and watercolor painting samples to depict the tension between music and painting in Klee's work. "For Agnes Martin"'s additive sample of wind rustling through leaves represents the connections with nature of her minimal, repetitive watercolors. "For Kazimir Malevich"'s samples of the sound of a square being drawn, industrial sounds, and echoing architectural spaces make reference to the Russian painter's Suprematist squares and Architekton sculptures. "For Cy Twombly" combines a slow drone, samples of graphite, chalk, stones and night time ambience to evoke the quiet mystery of his untitled white-on-gray paintings of the 1960s. 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Thu Oct 28 10:37:28 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32679-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99710 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:37:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 99609 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:37:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:36:06 +0200 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: AW: [microsound] Berlin ? In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJMEFAELAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear julien, there is a concert on 01.11. by asmus tietchens and dj zipo at sibirische zelle, more info at www.sibirische-zelle.de best, till ----------------- a u f a b w e g en magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx [mailto:xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2004 12:28 > An: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Betreff: [microsound] Berlin ? > > > Hello the list, > i'm going to Berlin next week-end, and i was wondering if there were some > concerts or other musical events. > > if someone could give me some information i would be very happy !! > > cheers, > > j > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 16:37:58 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32680-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5465 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:37:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 5455 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:37:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:37:34 -0400 From: Mike Hansen <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Tonight @ New Works Studio Toronto To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> this just in... >> >> re: Tonight rough idea presents: >> >> SUPER SUEDE >> >> @ NEW WORK STUDIO >> 319 Spadina Avenue >> >> Glen Hall - saxophones + wind >> will be performing with: >> >> Michael Morse - bass >> Jake Oelrichs - drums >> >> Glen Hall - saxophones + wind >> will not be performing with: >> >> Jason Hammer - bass >> Nick Fraser - drums + tapes >> >> >> for events both upcoming and past, bookmark the website: >> www.roughidea.ca > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 20:34:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32681-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27676 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:34:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 27665 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:34:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:33:35 +0000 From: JOHN LOS <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] F.Hecker. X-Originating-IP: [82.229.145.187] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2004 20:34:01.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[752CBA20:01C4BD2D] Dear S/he, I'm looking for any upcoming live performances from Florian Hecker.Does anybody know any dates and venues,or any links to any sites which could help me?Thank you for your time and patience. Yours John. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 20:56:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32682-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 40966 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:56:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 40955 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:56:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:00:17 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] F.Hecker. In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA72A81.BB5%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx he will perform in zurich, switzerland on november 6th at galerie walcheturm (together with marcus maeder and jasch). best, ralph. Am 28.10.2004 22:33 Uhr schrieb "JOHN LOS" unter <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx>: > Dear S/he, > I'm looking for any upcoming live performances from > Florian Hecker.Does anybody know any dates and venues,or any links to any > sites which could help me?Thank you for your time and patience. > > > Yours John. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > -- ..:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 21:54:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32683-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66810 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:54:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 66800 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:54:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:53:56 -0400 From: "tobias c. van Veen" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] [MTL] TECHNOPERA : Ariadne auf Naxos @ SAT In-reply-to: <BDA6E232.17859%xxxxxx@xxx.xx.xx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA6E2B4.1785B%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx // [Français ci-dessous] // ==== ENGLISH ==== TECHNOPÉRA inspired by the opera Ariadne auf Naxos by Richard Strauss Monday, November 1st, 2004 SAT 1195 St. Laurent Live Performance Opera / mix_sessions. Artistic exploration by the VJs/musicans [mix_sessions] and the singers from the Atelier lyrique de l¹Opéra de Montréal. Free admission for SAT members and Opéra de Montréal 18-30 subscribers. Reservation is obligatory. Space is limited. Please call the Opéra de Montréal to reserve at 985 2222 ext. 2258 5:00 p.m. Doors open with atmosphere from tobias c. van Veen. 6:30 p.m. Prologue with the musicians and VJ. 7:30 p.m. Lecture by Pierre Vachon on the opera Ariadne auf Naxos. 8:00 p.m. ARIADNE AUF NAXOS with musicians, VJ and singers. 8:30 p.m. Mix_Sessions Lounge Ambiance. 9:30 p.m. Doors Close. Two opposing artistic genres collide and reconcileŠA clever intermingling of tragedy and comedy, symbolism and reality, death and life Š A video-jockey and two experimental electronic musicians of the mix_sessions group participate in this performance at the SAT, in collaboration with the singers from the Atelier lyrique de l¹Opéra de Montréal. The performance is an artistic multimedia exploration of the themes of Richard Strauss¹ opera Ariadne auf Naxos, presented at the Opéra de Montréal this season, and is a live exploration of the contact between opera and the electronic, the recorded and the organic. The performance is based on an original concept developed by the artists (see attached Concept document), inspired by the themes and music of Ariadne auf Naxos. The total performance will be of approximately 2 hours in duration and includes a lecture about the opera and the relation of the VJ/musicians to the the singers by Pierre Vachon. TECHNOPERA ARIADNE AUF NAXOS PROGRAMME 5:00 p.m. OPENING Selections from techno-turntablist tobias c. van Veen. 6:30 p.m. PROLOGUE An ambiance of tension and expectation. Video projection by Xavier Cordente AKA vj RAVIERE: art and consumerism. Music: Experimental and techno-turntablist tobias c. van Veen with sonic selections from Tomas Phillips. 7:30 p.m. MULTI-MEDIA PRESENTATION Pierre Vachon, Opéra de Montréal 8:00 p.m. ARIADNE AUF NAXOS Minimalist sound exploration and live transformation of real-time vocal performances; tobias c. van Veen and Tomas Phillips explore themes of the opera Ariadne auf Naxos utilising digital microsound, live processing and experimental turntablism, encountering: time that passes, lost time, contrast of aesthetics (cabaret / serious music; major art / minor art, the live and the recorded, the new and the old, the electronic and the organic). Singers Karin Côté, soprano: Zerbinetta¹s aria Michèle Losier, mezzo-soprano: Composer¹s aria Both singers : the Duet. VJ (Video-Jockey) Xavier Cordente AKA RAVIERE LIVE MUSICIANS tobias c. van Veen techno-turntablist and live processing. Tomas Phillips experimental electronic musician and minimalism. TECHNICAL SUPPORT Nichola Lapierre, Atelier lyrique de l¹Opéra de Montréal Simon Brochu, SAT BIOGRAPHIES Tomas Phillips has composed electronic and electro-acoustic music since his first solo contribution to the Shadow Tape compilation in 1994. He has since released limited edition CD-Rs under the names Sea Optic, Lisbon and Eto Ami (in collaboration with Dean King). In 2002, Eto Ami created the sound design for Steve Paxton¹s Flat under the direction of Julee Snyder in Carborro N.C. 2003 saw the release of Tomas¹ On Dit on Trente Oiseaux. Performances include the Feather Net gallery in Raleigh, N.C. (2002), the Société Des Arts Technologique in Montreal, Quebec (2003), the Monument National in Montreal to accompany the 2003 production of Sarah Kane¹s Crave, and a playback presentation at the Overgaden Sound Art Festival in Copenhagen (2004). Future projects include a joint CD release with Tobias c. van Veen on the Seattle label and/OAR, contribution to a sound installation at the Dressing Room Gallery, Portland, Oregon, sound design for Le Songe/dreamplay by August Strindberg, adapted by Kate Bligh, and another collaborative composition with Dean King. [tobias c. van Veen] is a renegade theorist & pirate, techno-turntablist & writer (Montréal). He is Concept Engineer at SAT [sat.qc.ca] and Project Leader of Sonic Scene in the Mobile Digital Commons Network [MDCN.ca]. Since 1993 he has internationally directed over fifty independent conceptual and sound-art events, online interventions and radio broadcasts, working with STEIM, Mutek, the New Forms Festival, the Banff Centre, the Video-In, Upgrade!, the Vancouver New Music Society, and Hexagram. His work has appeared in CTheory, EBR, Bad Subjects, Leonardo, FUSE (contributing editor), e/i (columnist), the Wire, HorizonZero and through Autonomedia, among others. His writing has been translated into Spanish, Lithuanian and French and his art disseminated through Rhizome.org, Javamuseum.org, Kunstradio, Burn.fm, CiTR, a handful of contemporary art museums (Denver, Barcelona, etc.), No Type¹s BricoLodge and the and/OAR labels. From 1993-2000 he was Direktor of the sonic performance <ST> Collective (shrumtribe.com) on the West Coast and co-founder of technoWest.org and thisistheonlyart.com. He currently hosts The Upgrade! Montreal [theupgrade.sat.qc.ca] and is director of the [3p] project [3p.sat.qc.ca]. Djing for over 10 years, tobias¹ style is marked by the cut-up and non-linear mixing styles of future techno and house: Detroit, minimal, dub, glitch, and acid. Run that through the regional markers of context (Montreal, Vancouver, Berlin) and the application of concept (masochism, atmosphere, shock). His Dj sets have appeared on BetaLounge.com, Burn.fm, NoType.com and Techno.ca, and his skills have graced events worldwide, from Amsterdam to Barcelona, Montreal to NYC. An article discussing his experimental work with turntable scripts appeared in Leonardo Music Journal 13. Tobias is Ph.D candidate in Philosophy & Communication at McGill and New School, NYC. He also mixes a mean absynthe martini. His blog resides at: www.quadrantcrossing.org/blog Michèle Losier, mezzo-soprano She made her opera debut in January 2002 in the role of Dorabella in Così fan tutte at the Opéra-Théâtre d¹Avignon et des Pays de Vaucluse. She has also portrayed Cherubino in The Marriage of Figaro at the Opéra de Montréal, Zerlina in Don Giovanni at the Opéra de Nancy, Thérèse in Lucas et Cécile at Château Ramezay in Montreal, and both Hänsel and the Mother in Hansel und Gretel at the Atelier lyrique. She is often heard in recital in Quebec and New Brunswick, in addition to having sung in Scotland, England (St. James¹s Piccadilly and St. Martin-in-the-Fields), Italy, and France. Karin Côté, soprano At the Opéra de Montréal: Page in Rigoletto, the First Boy in The Magic Flute and Chonchon in The Merry Widow. On other professional stages, she has appeared as Euridice and Junon in Orphée aux Enfers at the Société d¹Arts Lyrique du Royaume in Chicoutimi, Sandmännchen in Hänsel und Gretel at the Opéra de Québec, Gretel in Hänsel und Gretel with the Orchestre Symphonique du Saguenay, and in the title role of the opera Élia with the Ensemble de Musique Contemporaine de Montréal. A finalist at Radio-Canada¹s Young Artists competition and at the Jeunes Ambassadeurs Lyriques Canadiens TECHNOPERA CONTACTS Coordination Anja Nopper, Opéra de Montréal Joseph Lefèvre, SAT Société des Arts Technologiques (SAT) 1195 Saint-Laurent Boulevard Phone (514) 844-2033 www.sat.qc.ca <http://www.sat.qc.ca> Opéra de Montréal Phone : (514) 985 2222, poste 2237 www.operademontreal.com 260 de Maisonneuve Boulevard West Montreal, Quebec H2X 1Y9 ==== FRANÇAIS ==== TECHNOPÉRA inspiré de l¹opéra Ariane à Naxos de Richard Strauss Lundi 1er novembre 2004 SAT 1195 St. Laurent Prestation en direct : Opera / mix_sessions. Expérimentation artistique VJs/DJs [mix_sessions] et les chanteurs de l¹Atelier lyrique de l¹Opéra de Montréal. Entrée libre pour les membres de la SAT et les abonnés 18-30 de l¹Opéra de Montréal sur réservation R.S.V.P. Réservez à l¹OdM (514) 985-2222 poste 2258 Places limitées 17 h 00 Ouverture des portes, musique avec tobias c. van Veen. 18 h 30 Prologue avec les musiciens et le VJ. 19 h 30 Conférence de Pierre Vachon 20 h 00 ARIADNE AUF NAXOS / ARIANE À NAXOS 20 h 30 Mix_Sessions ambiance lounge 21 h 30 Fermeture des portes Ici rien n¹est pur ! Tout ensemble se mêle! Lieu de toutes les oppositions, cet opéra entremêle savamment tragédie et comédie, symbole et réalité, mort et vie. Ariadne auf NaxosŠ quand le buffa rencontre le seria ... Un video-jockey et deux musiciens electronique et expérimental du groupe mix_sessions participent à une prestation en direct à la SAT avec les chanteurs de l¹Atelier lyrique de l¹Opéra de Montréal sur les thèmes de l¹opéra Ariane à Naxos au programme à l¹Opéra de Montréal. La prestation est basée sur un concept développé par les artistes en collaboration avec l¹Atelier lyrique. Les artistes VJs/musiciens électroniques/turntablists et chanteurs livrent une performance TECHNOPÉRA à partir de matériel original. Durée approx. : 2 h 00, la prestation se déroule à la SAT dans le cadre d¹une soirée à rythme expérimental qui comprend une conférence sur Ariane à Naxos et la prestation des VJs/musiciens électroniques/turntablists en dialogue avec les chanteurs de l¹Atelier lyrique. PROGRAMME TECHNOPERA ARIANE À NAXOS 17 h 00 OUVERTURE Sélections de techno-platiniste tobias c. van Veen. 18 h 30 PROLOGUE Un ambiance de minimalisme et tension. Projection video par Xavier Cordente AKA vj RAVIERE: l¹art et le consumérisme. La musique: Expérimental techno-platiniste tobias c. van Veen avec des sélections sonique de Tomas Phillips. 19 h 30 CONFÉRENCE MULTI-MÉDIA Pierre Vachon, Opéra de Montréal 20 h 00 ARIADNE AUF NAXOS Le temps retrouvéŠ exploration sonore minimaliste + performance vocale « live » avec transformation en temps réel. Thématique : le temps qui passe ou le temps perdu, pastiche temporel à travers ré-échantillonnage et échantillonnage « live » de vieux vinyles de la musique d¹Ariane à Naxos et la transformation en temps réel des airs chantés + improvisation. Confusion des genres (opéra seria / buffa) : ici mélange des voix des chanteurs, des vieux enregistrements d¹Ariane à Naxos, les traitements de tobias c. van Veen et des microsons de Tomas Phillips des esthétiques (musique concrète, cabaret / musique sérieuse; art majeur / art mineur, le nouveaux et le vieux, l¹électronique et l¹organique). MUSICIENS « LIVE ÉLECTRONIQUES » tobias c. van Veen techno-platinisme et traitement ³en temps réel. Tomas Phillips les sons micro-numériques et minimaliste. VJ (Vidéo-Jockey) Xavier Cordente AKA RAVIERE CHANTEURS Michèle Loisier, mezzo-soprano, l¹air du compositeur Karin Côté, soprano, l¹air de Zerbinette Les deux : le Duet. SOUTIEN TECHNIQUE Nichola Lapierre, Atelier lyrique de l¹Opéra de Montréal Simon Brochu, SAT Michèle Losier, mezzo-soprano En janvier 2002, elle faisait ses débuts à l¹opéra dans le rôle de Dorabella dans Così fan tutte à l¹Opéra-Théâtre d¹Avignon et des Pays de Vaucluse. Elle a aussi interprété Cherubino dans Le nozze di Figaro à l¹Opéra de Montréal, Zerlina dans Don Giovanni à l¹Opéra de Nancy, Thérèse dans Lucas et Cécile au Château Ramezay de Montréal et Hansel et la Mère dans Hansel et Gretel à l¹Atelier lyrique. Elle se produit beaucoup en récital au Québec et au Nouveau-Brunswick en plus d¹avoir chanté en Écosse, en Angleterre (St. James¹s Piccadilly et St. Martin-in-the-Fields), en Italie et en France. Karin Côté, soprano À l¹Opéra de Montréal : Page dans Rigoletto, le Premier Garçon dans La flûte enchantée et Chonchon dans La Veuve Joyeuse. Sur d¹autres scènes professionnelles, elle a tenu les rôles d¹Euridice et de Junon dans Orphée aux Enfers à la Société d¹Arts Lyrique du Royaume à Chicoutimi, Sandmännchen dans Hänsel et Gretel à l¹Opéra de Québec, Gretel dans Hänsel et Gretel avec l¹Orchestre Symphonique du Saguenay et le rôle-titre de l¹opéra Élia avec l¹Ensemble de Musique Contemporaine de Montréal. Finaliste au concours Jeunes Artistes de Radio-Canada et des Jeunes Ambassadeurs Lyriques Canadiens. Tomas Phillips has composed electronic and electro-acoustic music since his first solo contribution to the Shadow Tape compilation in 1994. He has since released limited edition CD-Rs under the names Sea Optic, Lisbon and Eto Ami (in collaboration with Dean King). In 2002, Eto Ami created the sound design for Steve Paxton¹s Flat under the direction of Julee Snyder in Carborro N.C. 2003 saw the release of Tomas¹ On Dit on Trente Oiseaux. Performances include the Feather Net gallery in Raleigh, N.C. (2002), the Société Des Arts Technologique in Montreal, Quebec (2003), the Monument National in Montreal to accompany the 2003 production of Sarah Kane¹s Crave, and a playback presentation at the Overgaden Sound Art Festival in Copenhagen (2004). Future projects include a joint CD release with Tobias c. van Veen on the Seattle label and/OAR, contribution to a sound installation at the Dressing Room Gallery, Portland, Oregon, sound design for Le Songe/dreamplay by August Strindberg, adapted by Kate Bligh, and another collaborative composition with Dean King. [tobias c. van Veen] is a renegade theorist & pirate, techno-turntablist & writer (Montréal). He is Concept Engineer at SAT [sat.qc.ca] and Project Leader of Sonic Scene in the Mobile Digital Commons Network [MDCN.ca]. Since 1993 he has internationally directed over fifty independent conceptual and sound-art events, online interventions and radio broadcasts, working with STEIM, Mutek, the New Forms Festival, the Banff Centre, the Video-In, Upgrade!, the Vancouver New Music Society, and Hexagram. His work has appeared in CTheory, EBR, Bad Subjects, Leonardo, FUSE (contributing editor), e/i (columnist), the Wire, HorizonZero and through Autonomedia, among others. His writing has been translated into Spanish, Lithuanian and French and his art disseminated through Rhizome.org, Javamuseum.org, Kunstradio, Burn.fm, CiTR, a handful of contemporary art museums (Denver, Barcelona, etc.), No Type¹s BricoLodge and the and/OAR labels. From 1993-2000 he was Direktor of the sonic performance <ST> Collective (shrumtribe.com) on the West Coast and co-founder of technoWest.org and thisistheonlyart.com. He currently hosts The Upgrade! Montreal [theupgrade.sat.qc.ca] and is director of the [3p] project [3p.sat.qc.ca]. Djing for over 10 years, tobias¹ style is marked by the cut-up and non-linear mixing styles of future techno and house: Detroit, minimal, dub, glitch, and acid. Run that through the regional markers of context (Montreal, Vancouver, Berlin) and the application of concept (masochism, atmosphere, shock). His Dj sets have appeared on BetaLounge.com, Burn.fm, NoType.com and Techno.ca, and his skills have graced events worldwide, from Amsterdam to Barcelona, Montreal to NYC. An article discussing his experimental work with turntable scripts appeared in Leonardo Music Journal 13. Tobias is Ph.D candidate in Philosophy & Communication at McGill and New School, NYC. He also mixes a mean absynthe martini. His blog resides at: www.quadrantcrossing.org/blog CONTACTS TECHNOPERA Coordination Anja Nopper, Opéra de Montréal Joseph Lefèvre, SAT Société des Arts Technologiques (SAT) 1195 boulevard Saint-Laurent Tél. (514) 844-2033 www.sat.qc.ca <http://www.sat.qc.ca> Opéra de Montréal Tél. : (514) 985 2222, poste 2237 www.operademontreal.com 260, boulevard de Maisonneuve Ouest Montréal (Québec) H2X 1Y9 ==== tobias c. van Veen -----------++++ http://www.quadrantcrossing.org -- http://www.thisistheonlyart.com -- McGill Communication + Philosophy --- New School Philosophy -------- ICQ: 18766209 | AIM: thesaibot +++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Thu Oct 28 22:07:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32684-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73263 invoked by uid 1095); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:07:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 73253 invoked from network); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:07:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:08:10 +0000 (GMT) From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx Subject: [microsound] small pieces, resonance 104.4fm, friday and saturday night Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Quality Web Email v3.1l, http://netwinsite.com/refw.htm Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx SLOW SOUND SYSTEM LIE DOWN AND BE COUNTED SMALL PIECES, RESONANCE 104.4FM, MIDNIGHT-1AM BST we're back on Resonance FM tomorrow night as part of Small Pieces - London's electronic underground network on air. This month, expect soundscaping, digitals, collage and exotica plus the usual sub-Mixing It chat from your hosts. Point the dial at 104.4fm if in London, or if not go to http://www.resonancefm.com for live streaming audio. On Saturday night at the same time, there's a second helping of Small Pieces as Eric and Thorsten from [no.signal] and Highpoint Lowlife records take over the studio. Tune in, then head directly to the Sud Electronics party in Hackney - more info at http://www.sudelectronic.com. See you there. 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Fri Oct 29 01:01:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32685-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15149 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:01:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 15139 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:01:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:04:38 -0400 From: graham miller <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Dan Flavin [OT] To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-SYMPA (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx beautiful. i love it. scott allison wrote: > Up now at the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, a retrospective of > sculpture by Dan Flavin, (he worked with light as his primary medium). > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4056030 > > Best > Scott Allison > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Fri Oct 29 03:06:44 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32686-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 63042 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:06:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 63032 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:06:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:06:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] [ot] RMS on "Intellectual Property" X-X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx The man who helped bring us the "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" on a problematic term for producers of digital culture: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/189204 byte: '...it is a mistake to replace "intellectual property" with any other term. A different name could eliminate the bias but won't address the term's deeper problem: overgeneralization. There is no such unified thing as "intellectual property." It is a mirage, which appears to have a coherent existence only because the term suggests it does.' P +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ { Phil Thomson { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson { label: http://centibel.org/ { group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ SDF Public Access UNIX System http://www.freeshell.org/ Geekier than you since 1987. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 03:42:01 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32687-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72953 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:42:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 72941 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:42:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:41:54 -0700 From: xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] RMS on "Intellectual Property" In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> X-Originating-IP: 207.6.224.211 To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx maybe of interest.. Richard Stallman - The Danger of Software Patents http://www.archive.org/download-eu/ifso-stallman/ifso-stallman-mpeg1_256kb.mp4 (253.6MB (audio/video)) Quoting Phil Thomson <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>: > The man who helped bring us the "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" on a problematic term > for producers of digital culture: > > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/189204 > > byte: '...it is a mistake to replace "intellectual property" with any > other term. A different name could eliminate the bias but won't address > the term's deeper problem: overgeneralization. There is no such unified > thing as "intellectual property." It is a mirage, which appears to have a > coherent existence only because the term suggests it does.' > > P > > > +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ > { Phil Thomson > { home: http://www.sfu.ca/~pthomson > { label: http://centibel.org/ > { group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/databenders/ > +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ > > SDF Public Access UNIX System > http://www.freeshell.org/ > Geekier than you since 1987. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 06:32:37 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32688-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18266 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:32:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 18254 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:32:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:32:28 -0400 From: John Nowak <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [ot] RMS on "Intellectual Property" In-reply-to: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxx X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jet16.hasweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - johnnowak.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Anyone else get the feeling that he stretched a dozen sentences into a dozen paragraphs? I agree with the article, but it all seems a bit obvious. On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:06 PM, Phil Thomson wrote: > The man who helped bring us the "GNU" in "GNU/Linux" on a problematic > term for producers of digital culture: > > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/189204 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 10:22:13 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32689-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73396 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:22:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 73297 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:22:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:21:35 +1000 From: Aural Industries <xxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] FA: R&D2 by Disinformation X-Originating-IP: [202.162.75.56] X-Sender: xxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Cc: xxx_xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxx_xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 10:22:02.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[21BE9920:01C4BDA1] Ending in less than 20 hours and going real cheap (less than $7.50 US): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4046561652 Disinformation - R&D2 Label: Ash International Catalog#: ASH 9.2 Format: CD Country: UK Released: Apr 1998 Genre: Electronic Style: Experimental, Noise The second in the R&D (Research & Development) series of releases from Disinformation. A CD of geomagnetic, space physics and atmospheric-electrical recordings. Featuring the sounds of phenomena associated with or produced by electrical and magnetic storms, solar coronal mass ejections, and tropical and local lightning. Really cool!!! John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 11:24:47 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32690-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89925 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:24:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 89915 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:24:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:24:41 +0200 (CEST) From: xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx Subject: [microsound] Berlin (bis) To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ircam.fr X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx re-hello the list, another question about Berlin: do you have some good record shops adresses ? cheers j --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 13:06:38 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32691-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14992 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:06:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 14981 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:06:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:06:05 +0200 From: mik <xxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Berlin (bis) In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx a certain xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx wrote: > re-hello the list, > another question about Berlin: do you have some good record shops adresses ? > > cheers > Staalplaat Torstr. 72 10119 Berlin -- --------___________________________ hear me here: http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 14:55:41 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32692-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66134 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:55:37 +0000 Received: (qmail 66110 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:55:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:59:18 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Berlin (bis) In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA82766.C04%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx via dachs X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 0.027886 secs) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx in my personal opinion the best shop in berlin: Dense Record Store Danziger Str. 16 10435 Berlin Germany Phone +49 30 44 34 02 92 Fax +49 30 44 34 02 91 xxxx@xxxxx.xx check it out, ralph. Am 29.10.2004 15:06 Uhr schrieb "mik" unter <xxxxx@xxx.xx>: > a certain xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx wrote: >> re-hello the list, >> another question about Berlin: do you have some good record shops adresses ? >> >> cheers >> > > Staalplaat > Torstr. 72 > 10119 Berlin > > -- ..:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 15:33:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32693-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83244 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 83234 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:32:39 -0300 From: knob music <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Mille Plateaux & Force Inc. X-Originating-IP: [143.117.78.97] X-Sender: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 15:33:03.0014 (UTC) FILETIME=[942C8460:01C4BDCC] Does someone knows what happens with the Mille Plateaux, Force Inc. and Ritornell web sites......... It's been a long time since I'm waiting to upload the site again..........but nothing happens........ Any clue........??? Thanx. Alex. _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 15:42:04 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32695-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.111]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87490 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:42:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 87476 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:42:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:41:14 +0200 From: RCF <xxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mille Plateaux & Force Inc. X-Originating-IP: [80.104.22.137] X-Sender: xxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxx_@xxxxxxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 15:42:00.0735 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4AE3AF0:01C4BDCD] hi. please visit www.milleplateauxmedia.com. it's under construction, but you can read more @: http://www.kompaktkiste.de/milleplateauxmedia.htm#mpm another question about this.. anyone knows about MPM distribution in europe? have a nice evening, c. ----- Original Message ----- From: "knob music" <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: [microsound] Mille Plateaux & Force Inc. > Does someone knows what happens with the Mille Plateaux, Force Inc. and > Ritornell web sites......... > It's been a long time since I'm waiting to upload the site > again..........but nothing happens........ > Any clue........??? > Thanx. > Alex. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 15:38:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32694-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.182]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta21.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 85466 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:38:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 85455 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:38:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:41:49 +0200 From: steinbr=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=chel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Mille Plateaux & Force Inc. In-reply-to: <xxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: Microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <BDA8315D.C16%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx via dachs X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 0.049857 secs) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx here's the new link: http://www.milleplateauxmedia.com/ no idea if ritornell & force inc. still exist. Am 29.10.2004 17:32 Uhr schrieb "knob music" unter <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>: > Does someone knows what happens with the Mille Plateaux, Force Inc. and > Ritornell web sites......... > It's been a long time since I'm waiting to upload the site > again..........but nothing happens........ > Any clue........??? > Thanx. > Alex. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > > -- .:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 16:12:56 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32696-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2331 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:12:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 2309 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:12:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:11:48 +0200 From: pawel <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] [MTL] TECHNOPERA : Ariadne auf Naxos @ SAT To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <00dd01c4bdd2$25935190$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-EMID: 4ad5f110 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BDA6E2B4.1785B%xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > TECHNOPÉRA http://cukt.art.pl/test/frame_cukt.html - here you can find some info and photos about Polish project called TECHNOPERA (showed in 1998) created by group CUKT (http://cukt.art.pl) ;-) regards pawel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Startuj z INTERIA.PL!!! >>> http://link.interia.pl/f1837 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 17:17:55 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32697-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37659 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:17:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 37649 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:17:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:17:50 +0200 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] Berlin (bis) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001101c4bddb$39239fe0$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <BDA82766.C04%xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx i was in berlin in april 04 and i find a good shop called Tonhalle in Danziger Str. i'm sorry but i don't remember the correct adress .... but it's not far to the underground station. Tonhalle is specialized in tanzmusic records. good choice od background and related artists. Lucky Berliner ...... Here in Italy no ones shops had........... cheers from Italy gianluca www.smbp.it ----- Original Message ----- From: "steinbr ü chel" <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xx> To: "Microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [microsound] Berlin (bis) > in my personal opinion the best shop in berlin: > > Dense Record Store > Danziger Str. 16 > 10435 Berlin > Germany > > Phone +49 30 44 34 02 92 > Fax +49 30 44 34 02 91 > xxxx@xxxxx.xx > > check it out, ralph. > > > Am 29.10.2004 15:06 Uhr schrieb "mik" unter <xxxxx@xxx.xx>: > >> a certain xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx wrote: >>> re-hello the list, >>> another question about Berlin: do you have some good record shops >>> adresses ? >>> >>> cheers >>> >> >> Staalplaat >> Torstr. 72 >> 10119 Berlin >> >> > > -- > > .:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 17:20:34 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32698-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.185]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta24.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 39876 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:20:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 39764 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:20:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:20:07 +0200 From: Sylvain Dal <xxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] Berlin & the rest In-reply-to: <xxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.x.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx> To: 'microsound' <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002901c4bddb$8c96b130$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx This is a recurring subject, so I've been initiating a page about music shops in Europe, http://www.chez.com/barkokhba/shops.htm your additions are welcome, via the form on the page thanx to those who'll contribute, S/ > -----Message d'origine----- > De : xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx [mailto:xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx] > Envoyé : vendredi 29 octobre 2004 12:25 > À : xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > Objet : [microsound] Berlin (bis) > > re-hello the list, > another question about Berlin: do you have some good record shops > adresses ? > > cheers > > j > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 18:25:06 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32699-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.186]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73199 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:24:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 73189 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:24:59 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:25:15 +0200 From: "xxxx@xxx" <xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] tietchens live & festival: biosphere/thaemlitz etc To: Microsound-Liste <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx Message-id: <OKEKJJALPLHCGDKBOCMJMEJMELAA.xxxx_xx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Authenticated: #1462046 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx dear all, aufabwegen is very proud to announce the following live news: asmus tietchens live 30.10.2004, 21.30h KONTAKT DER JÜNGLINGE (= Asmus Tietchens + Thomas Koener) Funkhaus Walraffplatz, Cologne Info: http://www.wdr5.de 31.10.2004, 21.00h ASMUS TIETCHENS & DJ Zipo (aufabwegen) AZ Conni, Dresden Info: http://www.azconni.de 01.11.2004, 21.00h ASMUS TIETCHENS & DJ Zipo (aufabwegen) Sibirische Zelle, Berlin Info: http://www.sibirische-zelle.de :::::FESTIVAL:::::: geraeuschwelten at klangzeit-muenster, germany live performances by: 03.11.2004, 22.00h KONTAKT DER JUENGLINGE (= Asmus Tietchens + Thomas Koener) & THUJA 04.11.2004, 22.00h BIOSPHERE & BEEQUEEN 05.11.2004, 22.00h CHRIS MANN (Machines For Making Sense) & TERRE THAEMLITZ all concerts start sharp at 22.00h each night. all concerts take place at: cuba, achtermannstr. 12, 48143 muenster, germany info & tickets at: http://www.klangzeit-muenster.de further infos: http://www.aufabwegen.com and http://www.geraeuschwelten.de thanks for your time! preview: 6.11.2004, 20.00h BIOSPHERE & TERRE THAEMLITZ plus video art & installations Lange Nacht der Koelner Museen Kulturbunker Mülheim, Berliner Str. 20, 51063 Cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de 11.11.2004, 21.00h ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE & THE MELTING PARAISO U.F.O. (Japan) Einzige BRD Show der Kult Noise-Psych-Rocker! Kulturbunker Mülheim, Berliner Str. 20, 51063 Cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de 14.11.2004, 20.00h WHITEHOUSE & Consumer Electronics Industrial-Noise-Attack aus UK. Kulturbunker Mülheim, Berliner Str. 20, 51063 Cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de 01.12.2004, 20.00h AMANDA ROGERS (2nd Recs/USA) Kulturbunker Mülheim, Berliner Str. 20, 51063 Cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de 12.12.2004, 20.00h JACKIE-O MOTHERFUCKER & HINTERLANDT Kulturbunker Mülheim, Berliner Str. 20, 51063 Cologne http://www.kulturbunker-muelheim.de ----------------- a u f a b w e g en magazine - label - mailorder p.o.box 100152 50441 cologne germany fax.: 0221-2720056 http://www.aufabwegen.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 18:29:42 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32700-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 76022 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:29:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 75989 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:29:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:29:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge Blank <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] laplop noise scrape at 21 Grand in Oakland tomorrow night! free! girls eating sandwiches! In-reply-to: <xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx sorry for the late late notice but please come check out this free show at 21 Grand ( in Oakland) tomorrow (Saturday) night at 8. it'll end early, so think of it as sort of a pre-party head flossing, or something equally appealing. KRISTIN MILTNER playing solo laplop COAL MAN LANDSEND MITOTIC AGGREGATE GROWTH MATRIX featuring: jorge boehringer, sounds alicia byer rebekah werth eric king eddie park manlio gullotta carla fragole sylvia algire jason martin katie hannon, small lights more informations: http://www.everythingsbusted.com/sandwiches.html Kristin Miltner is a composer, videomaker and installation artist. Recent shows include the San Francisco Electronic Music Festival, the Jiffy Scuttler series at the Rx Gallery in San Francisco. and the Field Effects series at 946 Natoma. She has also recently exhibited sound installation work at the San Francisco Arts Commission Gallery, and her video work is part of this year’s Recontres International film and video festival in Berlin. Her raw materials include but are not limited to voices, bells, cats, the everyday background hum of machines and lights, sadness, water, confusion, toy accordions, moths, amazement, and spoons. She processes these materials using various homemade software samplers. Her duo with electronic musician and composer Mark Bartscher is called miba, and their recently released album “the Corplate Porblem” can be found at www.paxrecordings.com <http://www.paxrecordings.com/> COAL MAN LANDSEND MITOTIC AGGREGATE GROWTH MATRIX features several simultaneous versions of two algorithmic growth models presented in light and sound for your genetic deep tissue reorganization. pm THIS SATURDAY OCT 30 21 grand gallery 449B 23rd St. Oakland, CA 94612 http://www.21grand.org for directions 21Grand, 449B 23rd St., Oakland CA. Getting there is easy, take Bart to 19th St. Oakland. Walk 3 blocks north on Broadway (the numbers should be increasing). Make a left at 23rd St. thanks to kristin miltner and mark bartscher for organizing this show yep, jorge __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Fri Oct 29 18:40:22 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32701-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.184]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81827 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:40:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 81815 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:40:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Ximm <xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Edirol R-4 four channel 24/96 recorder To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx.xxx.x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-WELL-Auth: Yes X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/559/Thu Oct 28 06:08:33 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Wow wow wow. A cheaper alternative to the 744T ~ a friend who saw it yesterday at AES (I'm going to try to go today) said it was supposed to list at $1800: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r4.html More details: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r4/brochure.pdf Hot on the heels of their 2 channel portable recorder comes a four channel 40 GB HD recorder with phantom-powered XLR for four channels. Records up to 24/96. Runs off 8x AAs. Limiter if you want it. USB2 for file transfer. CF slot to offload recordings to. Onboard editing capabilities, electret mics (2), and speakers for in-field editing. Pre-record buffer. Digital inputs too if the onboard pres turn out to be not the best. It looks about as big as a hardback book. Maybe bulkier than the 722/744. But not nearly as big as say a Deva etc. More if I get to see one! aaron xxxxx@xxxx.xxx http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Fri Oct 29 18:50:57 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32702-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 88567 invoked by uid 1095); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:50:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 88557 invoked from network); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:50:52 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:50:31 +0800 From: cheewai <xx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Berlin & the rest In-reply-to: <002901c4bddb$8c96b130$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2nE6lN2FkVbFJ+qHD12f6A)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <002901c4bddb$8c96b130$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_2nE6lN2FkVbFJ+qHD12f6A) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi there. berlin brings back some good memories. you should go to hard wax. it is in the middle of the turkish community. it is rather difficult to find as it is on the 3rd floor of a walkup apartment. just follow the dub. but it is a gem. Hard Wax Paul-Lincke-Ufer 44a 10999 Berlin Germany fon: +49 -30 -611 301 11 fax: +49 -30 -611 301 99 xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx spacehall is not too bad either. (www.space-hall.de) location: http://www.wdp.net/spacehall/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi? &shop=city&cart=2075201x7858&session=41828ff31eb2aa41&L=ger&page=About staalplat is good. regards, cheewai. On 30-Oct-04, at AM 01:20, Sylvain Dal wrote: > This is a recurring subject, so I've been initiating a page about music > shops in Europe, http://www.chez.com/barkokhba/shops.htm > your additions are welcome, via the form on the page > thanx to those who'll contribute, > > S/ > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx [mailto:xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx] >> Envoyé : vendredi 29 octobre 2004 12:25 >> À : xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> Objet : [microsound] Berlin (bis) >> >> re-hello the list, >> another question about Berlin: do you have some good record shops >> adresses ? >> >> cheers >> >> j >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --Boundary_(ID_2nE6lN2FkVbFJ+qHD12f6A)-- From ???@??? Sat Oct 30 18:21:52 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32703-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86051 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:21:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 86041 invoked from network); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:21:49 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:21:51 +0200 From: Jean-Louis Huhta <xxxx-xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] F.Hecker. In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Hi John try http://www.mego.at Florian CM von Hausswolff and me will play in Munich in december I post a message when it is confirmed best j-l On Oct 28, 2004, at 10:33 PM, JOHN LOS wrote: > Dear S/he, > I'm looking for any upcoming live performances > from Florian Hecker.Does anybody know any dates and venues,or any > links to any sites which could help me?Thank you for your time and > patience. > > > Yours John. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool new emoticons > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sat Oct 30 19:26:07 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32704-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4048 invoked by uid 1095); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:26:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 4025 invoked from network); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:26:03 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:25:14 +0000 From: JOHN LOS <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] interviews. X-Originating-IP: [82.229.145.187] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2004 19:26:01.0140 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A330740:01C4BEB6] Does anybody have any links to interviews on the web with Florian Hecker. John. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 31 00:57:23 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32705-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.183]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta22.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94040 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:57:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 94029 invoked from network); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:57:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:57:17 -0700 (PDT) From: bryan garcia <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] more fascination In-reply-to: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_D0fIVrMTNpb9qlwfOcgGLg)" Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx --Boundary_(ID_D0fIVrMTNpb9qlwfOcgGLg) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Optical Beats - the premise is that a turntable can function as a random access input devide, anthropomorphic in scale, and thus well suited for manipulation by hand. click this http://angermann2.com/ more here, http://acg.media.mit.edu/people/nik/projects_n.cgi?spinalcat&intro MIT has a very cool streaming radio program as well. its easy to figure out. happy halloween - bry JOHN LOS <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote: Does anybody have any links to interviews on the web with Florian Hecker. John. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. --Boundary_(ID_D0fIVrMTNpb9qlwfOcgGLg)-- From ???@??? Sun Oct 31 08:55:19 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32706-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 92365 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:55:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 92353 invoked from network); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:55:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:55:09 -0700 From: Kim Cascone <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? To: microsound_list <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Loop-Detect: 1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx anyone want to start a TWiki page with info w/r/t record shops, venues etc. in EU and US (maybe a page for each?) on the microsound TWiki server? this way info can be updated/added to/corrected/deleted/whatever and it won't lose its freshness in the archives of microsound emails...the request for this type of info comes up a lot on this list and a TWiki page would serve as a FAQ of sorts -- so can we post all this type of info there instead of hammering off an email and having the same question come up again in 2 months time? this is what the TWiki is for, so let's put it to use :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Sun Oct 31 23:28:08 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32707-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.110]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta16.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 84962 invoked by uid 1095); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:28:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 84950 invoked from network); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:28:05 +0000 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:27:34 +0000 From: JOHN LOS <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: [microsound] Released? X-Originating-IP: [82.229.145.187] X-Sender: xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx To: xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Bcc: Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Originating-Email: [xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2004 23:28:02.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[4413E190:01C4BFA1] Does anyone know if the two pieces that F.Hecker created for the transient travels project(Inverted Henon Map III/Double Scroll) will be released? Yours John. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 00:23:14 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32708-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3746 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:23:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 3736 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:23:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:23:12 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <002a01c4bfa8$f935cc80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Good idea! I think we also should have these areas below since there probably are listmembers here from other places than US & EU: ASIA (=AsiA) EUROPE (=EuropE) AFRICA (=AfricA) NORTH AMERICA (=NorthAmerica) SOUTH AMERICA (=SouthAmerica) AUSTRALIA (=AustraliA) ANTARCTICA (=AntarcticA) prolly not so many venues here, or . . . . ? BTW: I just made these pages... so just go fill them up with info! http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/PlaceS Yours, Björn Eriksson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? > anyone want to start a TWiki page with info w/r/t record shops, venues > etc. in EU and US (maybe a page for each?) on the microsound TWiki server? > this way info can be updated/added to/corrected/deleted/whatever and it > won't lose its freshness in the archives of microsound emails...the > request for this type of info comes up a lot on this list and a TWiki page > would serve as a FAQ of sorts -- so can we post all this type of info > there instead of hammering off an email and having the same question come > up again in 2 months time? this is what the TWiki is for, so let's put it > to use :) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 00:34:21 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32709-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.187]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8252 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:34:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 8228 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:34:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:34:15 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: [microsound] uhh...: (regional info?...) In-reply-to: <002a01c4bfa8$f935cc80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130302bdab33bc49c8@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >ASIA (=AsiA) >EUROPE (=EuropE) >AFRICA (=AfricA) >NORTH AMERICA (=NorthAmerica) >SOUTH AMERICA (=SouthAmerica) >AUSTRALIA (=AustraliA) >ANTARCTICA (=AntarcticA) -uhh... Those places have been there for awhile (more: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...) Probably missing the point (more: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...)... How do you mean (still willing: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...)... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 00:40:10 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32710-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10704 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:40:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 10693 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:40:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:40:06 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] uhh...: (regional info?...) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <004701c4bfab$5567df00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302bdab33bc49c8@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Well - - - maybe I don't get your uhh, uhh's---- but the point is just to make pointers to place X and Y Like if you are planning a tour to Asia/Australia and wants to plan ahead different places to contact for a gig or just make a visit when there on holiday. Then you can check our TWiki for interesting places. (in some ..microsound perspective) Hmm... you get it? /Björn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arie van Schutterhoef" <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> To: "microsound" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:34 AM Subject: [microsound] uhh...: (regional info?...) > >ASIA (=AsiA) >>EUROPE (=EuropE) >>AFRICA (=AfricA) >>NORTH AMERICA (=NorthAmerica) >>SOUTH AMERICA (=SouthAmerica) >>AUSTRALIA (=AustraliA) >>ANTARCTICA (=AntarcticA) > -uhh... > Those places have been there for awhile (more: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... > uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...) > > Probably missing the point (more: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... > uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...)... > > How do you mean (still willing: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... > uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...)... > > AvS > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + > > ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | > | http://www.schreck.nl/ | > | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | > ` *===========================================================++ > ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | > ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | > ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | > ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | > > ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | > > *===========================================================++ > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > ..................................................................... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 00:47:17 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32711-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.82]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta13.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13410 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:47:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 13397 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:47:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:47:15 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Eriksson?= <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] uhh...: (regional info?...) To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <008a01c4bfac$552f2650$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302bdab33bc49c8@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Have to admit that the word regional fit badly in the continental context... but that probably was not your concern/confusion. :) /Björn > >ASIA (=AsiA) >>EUROPE (=EuropE) >>AFRICA (=AfricA) >>NORTH AMERICA (=NorthAmerica) >>SOUTH AMERICA (=SouthAmerica) >>AUSTRALIA (=AustraliA) >>ANTARCTICA (=AntarcticA) > -uhh... > Those places have been there for awhile (more: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... > uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...) > > Probably missing the point (more: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... > uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...)... > > How do you mean (still willing: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... > uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...)... > > AvS > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 01:14:11 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32712-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.113]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21155 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:14:11 +0000 Received: (qmail 21145 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:14:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:11:29 -0500 From: andrew jones <xxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> Subject: Re: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? In-reply-to: <002a01c4bfa8$f935cc80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <002a01c4bfa8$f935cc80$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx we already have a forum that does this: www.fourthcity.net/label_forums/ Feel free to pilfer our info for your twiki. We were trying to set one of those up too. - a On Oct 31, 2004, at 7:23 PM, Björn Eriksson wrote: > Good idea! > I think we also should have these areas below since there probably are > listmembers > here from other places than US & EU: > > ASIA (=AsiA) > EUROPE (=EuropE) > AFRICA (=AfricA) > NORTH AMERICA (=NorthAmerica) > SOUTH AMERICA (=SouthAmerica) > AUSTRALIA (=AustraliA) > ANTARCTICA (=AntarcticA) prolly not so many venues here, or . . . > . ? > > BTW: I just made these pages... so just go fill them up with info! > > http://microsound.nexthop.net/bin/view.cgi/Main/PlaceS > > Yours, > Björn Eriksson > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" > <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:55 AM > Subject: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? > > >> anyone want to start a TWiki page with info w/r/t record shops, >> venues etc. in EU and US (maybe a page for each?) on the microsound >> TWiki server? >> this way info can be updated/added to/corrected/deleted/whatever and >> it won't lose its freshness in the archives of microsound >> emails...the request for this type of info comes up a lot on this >> list and a TWiki page would serve as a FAQ of sorts -- so can we post >> all this type of info there instead of hammering off an email and >> having the same question come up again in 2 months time? this is what >> the TWiki is for, so let's put it to use :) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >> website: http://www.microsound.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > > Andrew Jones 912 Euclid Ave. Birmingham, AL, 35213 407-927-7607 aim: liminal18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 01:41:49 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32713-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.83]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 31590 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:41:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 31575 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:41:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:41:43 +0100 From: Arie van Schutterhoef <xxxxxx@xxxxxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] uhh...: (regional info?...) In-reply-to: <004701c4bfab$5567df00$xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx> To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <l03130300bdab41c932a3@[213.84.105.55]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> <l03130302bdab33bc49c8@[213.84.105.55]> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx >Hmm... you get it? -uhh... Not really. But I was just in the mood to be irritating. Reason for that is these days in the world you are not supposed to understand what the parts of the world are. The equivalent of this is that you are not supposed to understand that the bedroom of home is 'the bedroom of your home'... I think this is a very lethal way of thinking, if you can call it a way of thinking... Maybe I should try harder (probably not very willing..). Inclined to continue: uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh... uhh...[mmm...]; nevermind... AvS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... ` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # | | http://www.schreck.nl/ | | http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ | ` *===========================================================++ ` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html | ` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html | ` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html | ` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html | ` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html | *===========================================================++ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...................................................................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org From ???@??? Mon Nov 1 04:17:18 2004 Return-path: <microsound-return-32714-vze26m98=xxxxxxxxx.xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.81]) by mstr3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx.xxx> for xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (ORCPT xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 71393 invoked by uid 1095); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:17:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 71383 invoked from network); Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:17:18 +0000 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 05:17:29 +0100 From: Gianluca Foglino <xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxx@xxx.xx> Subject: Re: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? To: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Reply-to: microsound <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Message-id: <001001c4bfc9$b4e33f60$xxxxxxxx@xxxx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Mailing-List: contact xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: <xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Post: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> List-Help: <mailto:xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> X-No-Archive: yes Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx yes very good idea gianluca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Cascone" <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: "microsound_list" <xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: [microsound] idea: TWiki pages for regional info? > anyone want to start a TWiki page with info w/r/t record shops, venues > etc. in EU and US (maybe a page for each?) on the microsound TWiki > server? > this way info can be updated/added to/corrected/deleted/whatever and it > won't lose its freshness in the archives of microsound emails...the > request for this type of info comes up a lot on this list and a TWiki > page would serve as a FAQ of sorts -- so can we post all this type of > info there instead of hammering off an email and having the same > question come up again in 2 months time? this is what the TWiki is for, > so let's put it to use :) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx > website: http://www.microsound.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx For additional commands, e-mail: xxxxxxxxxx-xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx website: http://www.microsound.org