Re: (idm) samplers are evil, aren't they?

From BigKumquat
Sent Thu, Aug 12th 1999, 21:31

<< Dr. Purist: Arrgh! The Kumquat has again uncovered my secret plans! Curses! >>

I remember all too well that Dr. Purist has his (not so hidden) anti-sampling agenda...sometimes I wonder if the good Doctor has a personal vendetta against the Akai corporation.

<< The Kumquat's fists on Dr. Purist's ideological foundation: THUD, POW, SMACK >>

Heh heh heh...and it feels good, doesn't it?

>> > - no DSP plug-ins were employed, since it is "too easy" to make cool-sounding effects with them <

Dr. Purist: Never said anything about that, not me, wait, Ow! <<

Sorry Doc, didn't mean to imply that you were anti-DSP "fuckery."  Just trying to tie a couple of threads together, perhaps to make a string or a rope...with my point being: can't we just enjoy a piece of music for how it sounds, rather than bringing in any personal prejudices regarding the tools used to make the music? 

<< Well, there is the whole idea that you should challenge yourself when creating art. >>

Believe me, using a sampler can be plenty challenging...precise beat-matching of samples to rhythms is a painful yet rewarding art form.

Have you ever seen the manual for an Akai S3000?  That thing is thick enough to stun an ox.  Plenty of challenging stuff in there.

<< And it's pretty easy to detect when someone is not
challenging themselves. We call it "wanking." >>

How is this detected?  Can you provide some examples?  And how does wanking compare to noodling? (sorry)

<< But remixing or covering tunes without the use of any sampling methods is a challenge which should
hopefully cause the folks involved to get creative in new and interesting ways >> 

I'm willing to agree with that statement.  Say, Tom, didn't you once say you were going to remix some Kumquat for me?  I'd like to hear how *that* could be done without a sampler.  You might need some voice synthesis software for all them little snippets.

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p.s.  Rumor has it that if you take the midi file for ae's LP7 and change the patches to mini-moog and Hammond B3, it sounds like Emerson, Lake and Palmer.