Re: (idm) Heck-no to Techno

From solenoid
Sent Fri, May 28th 1999, 04:50

On Tue, 11 May 1999, Moonlight wrote:

> used for a subgenre that includes "lite techno," like Madonna albums.  IDM
> has that damn rephlex/warp/skam concept to it.  Is there a large category
> that includes everything from Fila Brazillia and Coldcut to "Rotted One
> Note" to Coil to IDM and ambient and techno/house and jungle yet still
> excludes pop music?  Can we invent one?  

Experimental electronic music
experimental techno

Don't let others' misuse of a word that you think accurately describes
something keep you from using it.  "Experimental" has a dennotation that
is far stronger than any stigma a connotation can suggest.  Techno being
described as the original electronic dance music of the late80's/early90's
and experimental being just like the dictionary definition(s).  Coming up
with a new hybrid name seems superfluous when most of what you are
listenning to is still 4/4 made on drum boxes and computers/sequencers.

>(what other meta-genres would
> have songs written by pictures?),

The "fake" Dr Moolenbeek of Hafler Trio, an experimental electronic music
(maybe called "noise music") supposedly generated pictures from paint
exposed to soundwaves (just a joke, afaict) though that is the reverse
process of what you mentioned.

Also, Conlan Nancarrow drew visually-pleasing lines of punched holes on
player piano rolls starting in the 1950's, so picture-based
sound-generation has a history, imo.  He was a bit outside of the
avant-garde/academic music culture (Columbia/university, neo-classical,
theory-based) so he might best be called just "experimental" as well.

Oldnoise-a-loid