From lwtcdi Sent Wed, Dec 31st 1997, 13:26
From lwtcdi Sent Wed, Dec 31st 1997, 13:26
>> I agree, No-U-Turn are overrated, although they have put out some good >> stuff. I think the problem is their sound has not progressed. I have yet >> to hear any new stuff by them, so here's hoping they've given the old >> sound at least a new lick of paint... Torque was essentially more of the >> same and a nice roundup, but little else. Lets hope they push the >> envelope with forthcoming stuff. No more hoover bass or flat distorted >> bass, please! >I will agree with the statement that the No U Turn sound HAS got a bit >stale and the last release, 'cells', was a bit of a dissapointment too. Haven't heard it yet. I was tempted, but not that much. Heard the new Trace on Prototype, and it wasn't much different to Area 51 on the Breakbeat Science 2. Still pretty good, but nothing new. >Although Nico was the one who started the whole tech thing, there ARE >quite a few people who have taken it quite a bit farther. Boymerang is >one example, but it seems to me that he's fallen into the same trap and >all his tracks are starting to sound the same also. No progression. Yeah, I don't think he took it THAT much further though. IMO the only producers pushing the dark sound are Krust, Suv, Optical and Hidden Agenda. Maybe a couple more, but that's basically it. >Ditto for Panacea. When the chrome stuff started to hit, I was all over >it. I still get them all (and enjoy them), but how far can you go with >a distorted break? Never heard any Panacea, but it struck me as if it would be more boom-chix boom-chix and atmospherics. Techno-style d&b. I'm not adverse to this (the new Swift being a case in point - this is how effective it can be), but whatever happened to the funky drummer in drum and bass? This is what it's all about, surely? The drum and bass producers that can keep it funky, dark *and* hard, not the ones who enter into all this 'lets see what the darkest sound we can make is' competitions that seem to make up a lot of dark drum and bass these days... >It's really the same bitch you all are making about hoover bass... Yeah, I guess so. There's so much more to d'n'b. It's pure sound-sculpture when it's at its best. >Nico was caught in a rut for quite some time, but it seams that he's got >his head on straight, so look for tons of new stuff (and new artists) in >98 that WILL be pushing the envelope once again! Great, I can't wait to hear the results! (I'm not being sarcastic) >> Meanwhile, Ed Rush is now blagging off Dom and Roland/Optical rather >> than Nico which makes his at least sound a little more interesting and >> different, but only credits him with the similar blagging tactics to >> Goldie and of generally being all bald head and no ideas. IMO. >While you are all slaging the No U Turn line up, remember that Dom AND >Optical are both (not so official) members of the crew, So unoffical that they've never had records out on No-U-Turn :-) >as is Fierce, >who I consider one of, if not THE, best jungle dj's on the planet. Haven't heard any of them DJ, so I can't comment, but I agree that in drum and bass some of the DJs are as important as the music makers (Bryan Gee, Jack Frost, Hype, Groove, etc) > People like Ed Rush, Trace and Fierce ARE dj's first and foremost, but > they DO bring ideas into the studio and they do know what moves a > crowd. Yeah, I can understand that, but I still think that the lone producers make the best tracks and really push the scene. To me it's not just about rocking the dancefloor. Producers will do this anyway in drum and bass. Sometimes DJ's have a tendancy to fall back on past technique rather than embrace the future of the music... > Since they haven't been producing tracks for over ten years like > Nico, Dom or Optical, they ARE just learning their chops in the studio. Okay, fair comment. > And ALL OF THEM are gearing up to wreck some fucking heads in the new > year, so watch out! I hope so, I really really hope so! If it's really true, I can't wait! Big-up's to Nico and crew! Gb. -- "BIG UP YA CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR" from * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - L@@K WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED iN - ADVENT CRAZY http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/ DAMN JUKEBOX http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/4musjuke.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X amount of party streamers...