RE: (idm) Personal Emotional Manifesto

From Kelley Hackett
Sent Thu, Jun 3rd 1999, 14:29

I tell ya, Craig is something else!  I havent heard too much from him,
and many say that I am missing out!  Looks like this weekend will be the
time to pick up some things..........Andrew what CD should I look out 4?

If u r looking for some textbook  Techno, Get John Beltrans Earth and
Nightfall!   I got it about two months ago and I am still amazed at the
sound of that stuff, geeeeeeeeeeeeezzzz shoot.  If that doesnt do, and I
would think that it would, then go more melodic with still that Standard
Techno feel and buy(if ya can) 10 Days of Blue or The Cry(under his
Placid Angels guise)    OOOOOUUUUUCH!  Your boat will forever float, on
the waves of JB, as he socks it 2 ya with a 1-2 Gangsta Lean!

Still, many know that I get much hype from the stuff I listen to so I
dont need to say anymore............

Hk!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:        Andrew Duke Cognition/In The Mix
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> Subject:        Re: (idm) Personal Emotional Manifesto
> 
> Tom: Yes, and, since you mention it, Innerzone Orchestra's
> "Programmed"
> is pretty frigging amazing. Andrew Duke :)
> 
> Tom Millar wrote:
> 
> > I agree we sometimes get caught up in a lot of form-related
> arguments or
> > discussions- especially on the IDM list, but a little on the 313
> list,
> > too(when I was on it, anyhoo). These have their place and this is
> often
> > the only way to objectively talk about a great deal of this stuff.
> >
> > But concentration on form creates a lot of shit. Look at fusion or
> the
> > ten thousand other jazz-related musics that have come about in the
> last
> > decade or three. Prog rock. And a hell of a lot of techno/IDM since
> its
> > inception- people just playing around with form-related issues and
> not
> > expressing anything. This is how I feel about a great deal of Ae and
> > other glitchy-melodic type stuff, as well as noise-related music.
> Fuzz
> > fuzz chirpity chirp, who cares. Wow, so-and-so can program a
> synth/knows
> > his way around Cubase, but what do they have to say?
> >
> > I guess that's why "formulaic" has the connotations it has.
> >
> > This is always the greatest danger in working in such a structured
> > environment as musicians work in nowadays: you either conform to the
> > blues song structure, the step-time sequencing software, the SFX
> built
> > into your machines, the commercial demands of the populace, or you
> try
> > hard to break all the rules and do something freakish and
> new-sounding.
> > Either way, however, you can end up making a bunch of music that
> > expresses nothing, because you're just playing with formulas.
> >
> > This is the only way I've come up with that effectively separates
> the
> > wheat from the chaff in the deluge of new electronic music- does
> this
> > even make me think of anything? Can I imagine any sort of cinematic
> > scenes to go along with this(my personal perspective) or does it
> just
> > sound like a bunch of notes and noises?
> >
> > Too often it's just a bunch of notes and noises, but then again,
> there's
> > always Carl Craig.
> >
> > Tom