Re: [AH] Using DI BOX with synths?

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Mon, Jun 18th 2018, 00:15

That=E2=80=99s a good question, because it=E2=80=99s not always going to =
make a difference.


If you have ground hum, then converting to balanced can help. That =
probably requires the conversion to be done as close to the synth as =
possible to avoid a group loop between the synth and the converter. A =
passive DI is totally floating, so it should always work. An active DI =
will probably require a little care for grounding.

If your synth cables run parallel to power cables, then converting to =
balanced before the long cable run should help protect against picking =
up hum from the 120 VAC fields.

If your mixer line inputs are balanced, converting your synth to =
balanced could get you more signal level (+6 dB) without more noise from =
the mixer circuits.


Ideally, the synth would have balanced outputs so that all of the above =
benefits are available. The Roland Jupiter-6 has balanced outputs, and =
some of the newer synths have TRS jacks with actual balanced signals =
that will revert to unbalanced if you plug in a TS cable.


If, on the other hand, you=E2=80=99re talking about using a passive =
cable to go from unbalanced to balanced, there might not be much =
benefit, if at all. It can help for some things like guitar and cheap =
mics.

Brian


On Jun 6, 2018, at 4:42 AM, skkatter <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Why do you need to convert an unbalanced signal from a synth to a
> balanced one before it gets to the console?
>=20
> -S
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> On 5 June 2018 at 15:34, Quincas Moreira <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Stephen, read Laurie=E2=80=99s explanation above. You do indeed =
convert unbalanced to balanced with a DI box. Don=E2=80=99t confuse a =
balanced signal with a stereo one. Both use TRS (3 wires) but stereo is =
two unbalanced signals sharing one ground. Balanced is a bipolar audio =
signal with ground in the middle.
>>=20
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 09:21, skkatter <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the audio output of your synth is
>>> unbalanced then the signal will stay unbalanced despite using =
balanced
>>> cables. So why bother trying to change it to a balanced signal =
before
>>> the console?
>>>=20
>>> -Stephen
>>>=20
>>> On 5 June 2018 at 03:26, DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> So the point of a DI box is to send the signal to the mic input of =
your console and (roughly) match impedances? What if all you really want =
to do is convert an unbalance synth output into a balanced one for going =
into the 1/4=E2=80=9D TRS inputs of your console?