From Alex Reynolds Sent Thu, Jun 4th 1998, 20:23
From Alex Reynolds Sent Thu, Jun 4th 1998, 20:23
>Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:31:40 -0500 (CDT) >From: Nicholas Alan Bishop <xxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xxx> >Subject: (idm) fs list > >Evening lads. Short (by my usual standards, at least :) sale list here... >Compact Discs >- ------------- >Adam Sandler What the Hell Happened to Me? $2 If this is the ultra-rare, picture 7" vinyl with a print of a half-keg of Schlitz on the B-side, I'll bid $340.- for it. Make sure it's near-mint. On second thought, I'll just download the MP3. - - - - - - You know, whether you "get" Terre Thaemlitz' liner notes and/or music, or not, you have to admit that he has people here talking and thinking about what he gets up to. If anything, that's a true sign that Art lives within his works. Personally, I get a kick out of deciphering his "lyrics", because -- through the text -- I grasp an outline of deep intelligence with a sense of humor, creating wonderful Art for the rest of us useless human beings to appreciate, both aesthetically and intellectually. I also get a kick out of reading and responding to his e-mails -- you really have to do your homework if you're going to carry a discussion with the man. Of utmost importance is his music, sending chills down my spine. Listen to "fat chair" with the bass frequencies as high as you can get them without clipping -- all the while driving high and clean at 90 mph on the Baltimore-Philly I95 run at two in the morning. Wait for the gunshot and the gasp of surprise. This is fucking Genius, man. Alex [Appendix] >Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:31:03 -0700 >From: Jon Logan <xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: (idm) Abandoned Left Field >... >However, I get the sense that Terre is justifying his music's existence >much more than he is simply describing it... >Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:51:01 -0500 (CDT) >From: Chaircrusher <xxxx@xxxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: (idm) Abandoned Left Field > >Terre Thaemlitz is one of the rare people I've met or corresponded >ith involved in Electronic Music who actually has an agenda and can >articulate it... >Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:49:05 -0400 >From: "Zenon M. Feszczak" <xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx> >Subject: Re: (idm) Abandoned Left Field > >Avant-garde and experimental music, as with all contemporary art, is deeply >intellectualized. One may fairly level a criticism at art being purely >intellectual, and therefore generating no emotional response even when the >audience has the requisite intellectual background.... > >Back to TT, I doubt he's being hoaxful. >The fact that his work requires intellectual exertion from the listener may >turn some people off, but that's no necessary condemnation of his work... >Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:07:28 -0700 (PDT) >From: Sean Cooper <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> >Subject: (idm) Re: leftist abandon or whatever > >terre's background previous to his focusing on music is in political >agitation, primarily in the context of marginalized sexual identities >(queer nation et al). one of the major struggles organizations such as >queer nation have had to grapple with is the question of the utility of >leftist political strategies dating from the 1960s and the necessity of >adjusting those strategies to the political and cultural realities of >postindustrial late capitalism. terre's frustrations with "leftism" lay >precisely in its "religious" tendencies; that is (and primarily in the >context of identity politics) the necessity of concretizing social >identities in the interest of political struggle when it is precisely the >notion of stable, concrete social identity that that struggle seeks >to problematize. what makes these tendencies religious is their lean >toward universalizing notions of subjectivity, freedom, natural rights, >etc. terre explores these themes in his music in the ways he >describes in his liner notes. he does not expect listeners to be able to >hear the exploration of these themes in the music (again, that's why he >includes the discussion of them in the liner notes), nor does he believe >acceptance or cognition of those ideas is necessary to the enjoyment of >the music. he includes them as supplements to the music in the interest of >those who may also wish to explore them. if you're not one of those >people, i think it's probably his assumption that you would simply not >read them... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Reynolds Distributed Support Specialist Department of Biology School of Arts & Sciences Computing University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA email:xxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xxx phone:215.573.2818 PGP Fingerprint: E0E3 BB20 C1BC 3C0D 56A1 1FD5 5B9C 9E91 A7F0 F9B5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The future is in crowds." -- Don DeLillo