From Chris.Hilker Sent Sun, Jun 28th 1998, 21:47
From Chris.Hilker Sent Sun, Jun 28th 1998, 21:47
>yeah, that's true.. but still I think the lesser known labels are not to >be underestimated in their knownability :) Exactly - if Suction and Schematic and Markant and Rastermusic and all these other labels are so "unknown," why do I have to delete so many posts about them? >well.. generally house _is_ IMO unintelligent, and that's all house.. And that's your loss... >that doesn't mean it isn't any good.. I mean.. look at house, it's full of >4 bar loops of every kind.. and look at some IDM.. the melodies are >longer, the drum beats more complex and individual.. This is a huge gross generalization that just doesn't hold up. A good house record (like the new Herbert disc I just got from Bent Crayon) is *less* repetitive and *more* complex and individual rhythmically than e.g. the Boards of Canada album everyone was blowing so much smoke about. Yes, the Herbert record's repetitive, but it's got a lot more variation within that repetition than BoC ever do. >whereas house is only meant to be danced to.. not listened to, IDM is >meant to be listened to, not danced to.. and vice versa.. Disagree. On both counts: oversimplifications that don't hold up in the face of intelligent house records and floor-friendly idm. >that's the what it's all about IMO.. stuff like michael fakesch, the old >AI comps (and IMO few, very few things today can even classify themselves >as being as good as those comps), I think the canonization of the AI comps has gone far enough at this point. AI1 wasn't even the best IDM comp released in 1992 (Intergalactic Beats on Planet E gets the nod there), and AI2 is mostly an embarrassment. While 90% of everything is always shite, I'd say that for instance the last two volumes in the Freezone series (3 and 4 - haven't heard 5 yet) are every bit as good overall as AI2. We've definitely hit a dry spell lately as far as great albums go (with notable exceptions like the WHOMP-ASS~! Circadian Rhythms album), because most of the best artists have been quiet for a while (I'm talking about people like Global Communication, 4 Hero, Carl Craig as Paperclip People, Orbital, the Black Dog, and a Guy Called Gerald). Most of these people should have a new one out by year's end and I don't expect anything but greatness from any of them. (Well, the ex Deee-Lite vocals on the new Gerald worry me a bit...) >well.. I listen to tracks with vocals.. IMO everything deserves at least >2-4 listens.. but I must say that most of the tracks with vocals, as in >lyrics, people singing have been totally lame. Disagree. Bjork's last album was one of my top three or four IDM records last year, and there are loads of other recent counterexamples (4 Hero "Loveless" and Chris Bowden/4 Hero "Hero," the vocal track on Planetary Folklore, etc.). Not to mention the new Massive Attack album which is just totally SWANK~! and has only one instrumental cut. (Melankolic - IDM 1998 label of the year easily IMO.) Oh, it's got heavy guitars on it too. You should love it. >and a closed mind isn't a good thing.. indeed a lot of people have a >closed mind. i used to have one Glad to see you don't anymore... C. -- Chris.Hilker (xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx) "What I don't understand," said Richard, "is what these people have against dictionaries. Maybe they don't even know they can't spell."