Re: [AH] Oh come on...

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Mon, Feb 12th 2018, 05:39

Ha!

I wish I knew how to made a good FM patch. Only made 1 that I liked, and =
it was an accident. Sounded like a violin note with bow bounce.

As for Phase Distortion, I can only guess that it=E2=80=99s Phase =
Modulation. But I know nothing about it beyond writing a random patch =
generator for the CZ-101 from a custom Apple ][ MIDI interface.

Interestingly, there is a lot in common between Phase and Frequency =
Modulation, at least in some areas. Phase Locked Loops are used to match =
the frequency of an oscillator to an incoming signal, but what they=E2=80=99=
re really doing is matching the Phase. The process of matching phase =
ends up matching the frequency, too. I=E2=80=99m not sure how that might =
be related to PM or PD.

In classic radio modulation, you have AM, FM, and PM as options, =
although the latter is almost unheard of. In other words, you can change =
the Amplitude, Frequency, or Phase of a carrier signal. As for how this =
relates to synthesis, your guess is as good as mine.

I think Seth has a good point: Editing a patch on a Casio CZ synth is a =
lot closer to normal synth patch editing, and thus significantly easier =
than editing a Yamaha DX synth patch.

Brian


On Jan 3, 2018, at 12:01 AM, David Messenger <xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> =
wrote:
> I'm anticipating a later post from Mr. WIlloughby which will nail the =
answer to this mofo of a question ( 1.) right down to the floor...
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> 3/2018 12:51 AM, Artie Qewpie wrote:
>> so i suppose the picture would make much more sense if he were =
selling the modular and throwing it in along-with...
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>> "Used as a midi controller with the benefit of tons of great sounds." =
says the ad." so... yes, mr. messenger, i think you are correct.
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>> in any case, i have two other points to address:
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>> 1) i am admittedly somewhat puzzled by so-called "phase-distortion =
synthesis." what i've more or less heard is, "it's like FM, but =
different." pressing for more detail, it goes something like, "the PD =
modulators had a lot more harmonic content." this still doesn't answer =
my question. what is phase-distortion synthesis? is it an oddity, or =
does it fill a niche? you know... was it invented as a clever technical =
hack, or as a more mathematical thing like FM?
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>> 2) how does one make good FM patches?
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>> thanks,
>> rtqp
>> longtime lurk
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>> On 01/02/2018 07:58 PM, David Messenger wrote:
>>> So, you don't think it's just where it was sitting in the studio? I =
think it was his controller for the modular...
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>>> On 1/2/2018 4:13 PM, DJ Maytag wrote:
>>>> Just to be clear, my my ire isn=E2=80=99t that someone is selling a =
CZ at a certain price (I don=E2=80=99t know much about the), but that =
they felt the need to show off their modular prominently.
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>>>> I wouldn=E2=80=99t have blinked if it were cropped or blurred in =
the background, but the image needlessly featured that MOTM system in =
the for sale post.
>>>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:38 PM Seth Elgart <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx =
<mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
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>>>>     Agreed!
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>>>>     I've had two CZ-101s in the past and just recently got a CZ-1 =
(the
>>>>     most-super-awesomest CZ, of course). Inexpensive, easy to =
program,
>>>>     lots of good sound in 'em. And the 101s are totally portable, =
too
>>>>     In fact, I was just musing the other day that I'd really like =
to
>>>>     have a CZ-1 synth in a Roland Boutique form factor. Surely they
>>>>     can make them that small nowadays.
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>>>>     Although I do have to say in the part of the world I hail from
>>>>     (New York City) they're kicking ass rather than kicking arse. =
Same
>>>>     difference, though.
>>>>=20
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>>>>     Seth
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>>>>     On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 2:57 PM, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO =
<xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>         CZ synths are kick arse!
>>>>=20
>>>>         Paul