From doug Sent Tue, Apr 30th 2019, 19:36
From doug Sent Tue, Apr 30th 2019, 19:36
Hello Henrique, I understand the importance of MIDI THRU on synths, but imagined it is not as useful on a programmer tied directly to a specific synth. That said, you make a good point, so I will add a THRU to my next core board design. The operator controls can be shared between multiple operators for two reasons: 1) Multiple price points. Cost scales linearly with the number of controls offered, so only offering dedicated operator controls would price the programmer out of many musicians' budgets. Plus, since the design is modular, you can start with the "x" class (two sets of Operator controls) and add two more Operator panels later as desired. 2) Ease of use. Common controls allow multiple operators to have the exact same settings for some parameters and different settings for other parameters. For example, I can enable "Edit" for Operator 2 and 3 to set the same attack, but then disable "Edit" for Operator 3 to only edit Decay for Operator 2, since the programmer only transmits a control when it is moved. BTW, a previous design (retailing for ~$700) used dedicated controls for each Operator, but some customers missed having the option to edit multiple Operators simultaneously. Best Regards, --- Doug Huseby http://synthark.com http://synthark.org On 2019-04-30 11:35, henrique matias wrote: > the MIDI THRU is important when chainning instruments on the studio. > > For instance, my Cirklon Sequencer sends MIDI to the DX7, if there is > MIDI THRU I can then chain more instruments ( using other MIDI > CHANNELS ) to that MIDI OUT of my sequencer, for instance, a drum > machine on MIDI CHANNEL 10 while having the DX7 on MIDI CHANNEL 1. > > In the case of your device, the MIDI THRU would be good to chain > things before the merge, therefore not risking extra latency ( for > instance if the MIDI is being somehow processed inside of your > hardware ). > > Regarding the panel, thanks for clarifying i'm still trying to > understand it fully, will let you know if i come with more questions.. > > Perhaps my confusion comes from the fact some of the controls can only > be accessed by using the switches as you noted... !? > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 14:56, <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > >> Hello Henrique, >> >> I forgot to address the MIDI question in my previous email ... The >> programmers have a MIDI IN and MIDI OUT. However, the MIDI IN is >> merging, so it can pass MIDI data from a sequencer or keyboard to >> the >> synth without requiring an external merge. >> >> BTW, I can easily add a MIDI THRU, since the CPU board is separate >> from >> the interface boards, but I have not had a compelling reason to do >> so >> yet. >> >> --- >> Doug Huseby >> http://synthark.com >> http://synthark.org >> >> On 2019-04-30 05:57, henrique matias wrote: >>> It looks interesting but i'm a bit confused yet.. >>> >>> There are 6 operators but i can see only buttons 1-4 for >> instance... >>> >>> Also, how does MIDI works there is a MIDI IN / MIDI IN THRU and a >> MIDI >>> OUT / MIDI OUT THRU ? >>> >>> For instance can i have the controller in between my DAW and the >> DX >>> and still record the keys, etcs? >>> >>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 19:43, <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Here is the link to the proposed design we are currently >> building: >>>> http://synthark.com/Products/MSP-X72.html >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Doug Huseby >>>> http://synthark.com >>>> http://synthark.org >>>> >>>> On 2019-04-29 09:43, henrique matias wrote: >>>>> where can i find more info about MSP-X72 controller for DX ? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 15:26, <xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm submitting my final parts order for 2019 at the end of the >>>> week >>>>>> (Bourns has a 4-6 month lead time), so any MIDI programmer >>>>>> pre-orders >>>>>> submitted after the parts order are in danger of being bumped >> to >>>>>> next >>>>>> year. Here is the current priority list for 2019: >>>>>> 1) MSP-X11 (Yamaha DX11, DX21) >>>>>> 2) MSP-ESQ (Ensoniq ESQ-1, ESQ-M, SQ-80) >>>>>> 3) MSP-MSP (Ensoniq Mirage Sound Process) >>>>>> 4) MSP-X72 (Yamaha DX7II) >>>>>> 5) MSP-FB (Yamaha FB01) >>>>>> 6) MSP-JX8 (Roland JX8p) >>>>>> 7) MSP-SJX (Roland MKS-70) >>>>>> 8) MSP-SJU (Roland MKS-80) >>>>>> 9) MSP-D50 (Roland D50, D550) >>>>>> 10) MSP-Evo (DSI Poly Evolver) >>>>>> 11) MSP-Max (Sequential Circuits Max, SixTrak, MultiTrak) >>>>>> 12) MSP-707 (Korg 707) >>>>>> 13) MSP-DS8 (Korg DS8) >>>>>> 14) MSP-D10 (Roland CM-32L, CM-64, CM-300, CM-500, D-5, D-10, >>>> D-20, >>>>>> >>>>>> MT-32, MT-100) >>>>>> 15) MSP-D11 (Roland D-110) >>>>>> 16) MSP-S55 (Roland S550) >>>>>> 17) MSP-CZ1 (Casio CZ1, CZ101, CZ100, CZ2000S, CZ3000, CZ5000) >>>>>> 18) MSP-JVX (Roland JV-1010, JV-1080, JV-2080, XP-30 XP-50, >>>> XP-60, >>>>>> XP-80) >>>>>> 19) MSP-KC (Kawai KC10, XS1) >>>>>> 20) MSP-P1k (Emu Audity 2000, B3, Mo-Phatt, Orbit3, >>>> Planet-Earth, >>>>>> Proteus 1000, Proteus 2000, Vintage-Pro, Virtuoso-2000, XL-1) >>>>>> >>>>>> Programmers towards the bottom of the priority list do not have >>>>>> pre-orders, so they may be pushed into the 2020 builds, >> depending >>>> on >>>>>> >>>>>> pre-order counts of other programmers. Email me for pre-orders >>>> to >>>>>> receive the 20% AH discount. >>>>>> >>>>>> Completed programmers: >>>>>> - MSP-AJ (Roland Alpha Juno 1/2, MKS-50) >>>>>> - MSP-AX8 (Akai AX80 with TaunTek upgrade) >>>>>> - MSP-DW8 (Korg DW-8000, EX-8000) >>>>>> - MSP-DSS (Korg DSS-1) >>>>>> - MSP-K3 (Kawai K3, K3m) >>>>>> - MSP-K5 (Kawai K5, K5m) >>>>>> - MSP-K11 (Kawai K11, GMega) >>>>>> - MSP-X10 (Yamaha DX27, DX100) >>>>>> - MSP-X81 (Yamaha TX81z) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Doug Huseby >>>>>> http://synthark.com >>>>>> http://synthark.org >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> _time's not passing, you are._ >>>>> >>>>> ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ >>>> ❁ >>>>> ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ >>>>> >>>>> ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ >>>> ❂ >>>>> ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> _time's not passing, you are._ >>> >>> ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ >> ❁ >>> ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ >>> >>> ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ >> ❂ >>> ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ > > -- > > _time's not passing, you are._ > > ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ > ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ > > ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ > ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁ ❂ ❁