Re: [AH] MIDI wiring mess

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Thu, Dec 27th 2018, 02:08

Wow!

I=E2=80=99m very disappointed that the MMA approved 1/8=E2=80=9D TRS =
jacks for MIDI on small devices, for the very reason that it=E2=80=99s =
common to connect the Sleeve of a jack to the metal of an enclosure or =
modular face plate. Granted, some people have pointed out that it=E2=80=99=
s possible to carefully select 1/8=E2=80=9D TRS jacks where this =
grounding is prevented and/or to manually install insulating grommets =
and nuts, but that sounds like a headache waiting to happen.

For my MIDI builds, I use jacks that are plastic, and which screw to the =
enclosure or face plate without any possibility for ground connections. =
What manufacturer and part number have you been using for MIDI jacks? =
I=E2=80=99d always assumed that it=E2=80=99s easier to find non-grounded =
DIN-3 jacks.

Brian Willoughby


On Dec 26, 2018, at 6:04 PM, Michael E Caloroso =
<xxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> While we're discussing studio MIDI wiring...
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> ...I build my own I/O panels for my racks, and my own MIDI cables.  I
> recently uncovered a nasty bug that has perplexed me for years:
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> If you use metal shell MIDI plugs on your DIY MIDI cables, DO NOT
> ALLOW MIDI GROUND TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THE SHELL.
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> I was gigging my road system and was experiencing intermittent MIDI
> errors.  After finally being able to reproduce it at home, I figured
> out that the metal shell of the MIDI plug shorted to earth ground via
> the metal DIN jacks I was using on my DIY I/O panels.  Stray shield
> wires from the cable had contacted the cable clamp of the plug
> (despite my best attempts at trimming the stray wires), completing the
> short circuit of MIDI ground to earth ground.  MIDI gets very upset
> under this condition.
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> I use an EBTech cable tested after I build all my DIY cables, and it
> does not have the capacity to detect a short from the shell to any of
> the pins - it's not supposed to.  Even with my diligent testing after
> completing a cable, this bug had eluded me for YEARS in my studio
> system.  Yes I was well aware that the MIDI specification grounding
> system is designed that way FOR A REASON.
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> The only way to guarantee complete isolation of MIDI ground from earth
> on the metal shell of the plug was to disassemble the plug and add
> shrink tubing over the trimmed end of the cable.  This separates any
> stray shield wires from the metal clamp of the plug.  Once I fixed my
> cabling for the stage rig, it behaved MUCH better.
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> Nasty bug, this.
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> For years I had wondered why my SYSEX dumps were never 100% reliable,
> now I know why.
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> That's just the STAGE rig.  Now I have to make the cable corrections
> to my STUDIO system, which has easily over 30 DIY cables that I built.
> Guess how I am spending my holiday break...
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> Sent from my iGroundingCanBiteYou,
> MC
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