From Andrew Duke Cognition Sent Thu, Jun 3rd 1999, 02:17
From Andrew Duke Cognition Sent Thu, Jun 3rd 1999, 02:17
Tom: Yes, and, since you mention it, Innerzone Orchestra's "Programmed" is pretty frigging amazing. Andrew Duke :) Tom Millar wrote: > I agree we sometimes get caught up in a lot of form-related arguments or > discussions- especially on the IDM list, but a little on the 313 list, > too(when I was on it, anyhoo). These have their place and this is often > the only way to objectively talk about a great deal of this stuff. > > But concentration on form creates a lot of shit. Look at fusion or the > ten thousand other jazz-related musics that have come about in the last > decade or three. Prog rock. And a hell of a lot of techno/IDM since its > inception- people just playing around with form-related issues and not > expressing anything. This is how I feel about a great deal of Ae and > other glitchy-melodic type stuff, as well as noise-related music. Fuzz > fuzz chirpity chirp, who cares. Wow, so-and-so can program a synth/knows > his way around Cubase, but what do they have to say? > > I guess that's why "formulaic" has the connotations it has. > > This is always the greatest danger in working in such a structured > environment as musicians work in nowadays: you either conform to the > blues song structure, the step-time sequencing software, the SFX built > into your machines, the commercial demands of the populace, or you try > hard to break all the rules and do something freakish and new-sounding. > Either way, however, you can end up making a bunch of music that > expresses nothing, because you're just playing with formulas. > > This is the only way I've come up with that effectively separates the > wheat from the chaff in the deluge of new electronic music- does this > even make me think of anything? Can I imagine any sort of cinematic > scenes to go along with this(my personal perspective) or does it just > sound like a bunch of notes and noises? > > Too often it's just a bunch of notes and noises, but then again, there's > always Carl Craig. > > Tom