From negativesaucer Sent Tue, Nov 19th 2019, 15:49
From negativesaucer Sent Tue, Nov 19th 2019, 15:49
I'm going to briefly state my perspective on this and be done with it: When someone subs to /r/synthesizers they are there for what's written on the tin. It's not about trans people or women, or men, or anything, it's about synthesizers. When I say I don't care about gender identities or sexual orientations, that is to mean you can be whatever you want and I'm not going to hassle you over it, because it's none of my business. The insinuation that trans etc people can't feel a part of a community unless they poll the community for people that share their gender identity or sexuality seems a bit backwards to me. IMO, if it's not about synthesizers it doesn't have a place in a community dedicated to synthesizers. I apologize for even mentioning it as I've essentially introduced this same thing here. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:47 AM Lorne Hammond <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xx> wrote: > > I agree with Justin but for example, the trans couple I worked with on te= lling their story just want to be who they are now today. Its about being c= omfortable and going forward. > > Wendy Carlos just wants to talk music, not identity. Talking synth hear, = including bad puns and strong opinions has always been what has given this = list its longevity. > > what's a list-serv grampa? > > Lorne > > > > > > From: Justin Maxwell <xxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> > Sent: November-18-19 10:39 PM > To: Van Santos <xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > Cc: negativesaucer <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>; Collin Crowe <iamcollincro= xx@xxxxx.xxx>; eon <xxx@xx.xx>; Analogue Heaven <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; A= lex Sullivan <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; chris <xxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xx> > Subject: Re: [AH] No traffic? > > > > and so are the people > > > > as an ex-AH asshole (AHsshole?) the thing about being an asshole is that = you don't have to be. you can fucking just move along. whether or not it's = muffs or reddit or wherever, there are always a bunch of good ol boys white= males who think that the world is too sensitive for them and their jokes a= nd that other people are the problem. meanwhile there are people just figur= ing themselves out in the world and trying to find places to connect online > > > > > gender identity and sexuality is irrelevant to synth discussion imo. > > > > except that it's not, gender identity and sexuality has been bound to art= for millennia, and we happen to be fans of machines designed to create art= , among other things. on the machine level, we talk about tones in terms of= passion, people use the word "sexy" to describe industrial design. there's= a lot of masculinity and femininity in the music and the audience. and we'= d be naive to pretend the music many of us on here love didn't get its root= s in gay communities. > > > > there are a lot of people figuring out themselves in the world right now = because society is providing a safe(r) space for it and the people who make= it harder for them online are the real assholes. > > > > i say this just to remind folks that there are a lot of lurkers on AH and= i want them to feel welcome too. > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 8:37 PM Van Santos <xxx.xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I saw that recently when a woman asked about other women who frequent the= sub.... The comments were a nightmare. > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 10:34 PM negativesaucer <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> = wrote: > > meanwhile the Reddit synthesizers sub is more interested in gender identi= ty politics than synthesizers > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 6:34 PM Collin Crowe <iamcollincroxx@xxxxx.xxx> wro= te: > > It works! Keep it goin > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:42 AM eon <xxx@xx.xx> wrote: > > > > That said - as a UK bod - in the 90=E2=80=99s I=E2=80=99d look forward = to browsing > > through a bunch of email from the US when I got up - nothing like > > reading a flame war over 101 mod grips with your morning coffee! Good > > times! It=E2=80=99s a lot quieter now - but there have been some good > > threads this year! > > Nothing like old school, mannerly flame war, yes! > > Speaking of which. "I know it's not abalogue, but..." I just got me my > first hardware sampler in my life at the age of 40. It's the original SP > 1200 with SD drive and I'm loving it, sampling the AKS. > > Any hints? > > > Cheers > Maciek