From martin wood Sent Wed, Apr 21st 1999, 16:46
From martin wood Sent Wed, Apr 21st 1999, 16:46
Sam Frank wrote: > > > > U seem to be looking at this thing from now, but in order to understand > > anything U must first start from the beginning. > > > > Rappers dont need bands(music). Typically, while in NYC or D.C., I > > always wanted buddies to kick free-styles, for that is when they are at > > their best. Not when music is playing behind their rapps. > > > > To each his own, but there is nothing like walking up to a cat and say > > "bust a free" and he begins! In fact, if he cant, or says I need > > music---I just walk away! > > > > Hk-10! > > I understand your point, but you're misinterpreting me. I'm not talking > about rap's lyrical content, although I'm sure certain content goes well > with a certain sound and flow. I'm talking about the delivery itself, thwe > inmteraction between beat and rap. IMO, hip-hop is much more interesting > when both rap and beat work simultaneously--instrumental hip-hop is rarely > incredibly exciting, and loses a lot of the point of hip-hop, just as > instrumental rap seems more akin to straight, albeit heavily rhythmic, > poetry. I'm interested in the lyrics as well, but I'm most interested in > the combination of sounds. Of course, disagree if you want to. > > And re: starting from the beginning, I believe the beat started it off, > with toaster types over DJs, keeping the corwd going. > of course, there was proto-rap, like that scene in Dolomite where Dolomite > is entertaining the crowd. is there any literature on "proto-rap," some > heavily rhythmic poetry style that predated "actual" rap? > > One question--has a bizarre rapper like Kool Keith ever had beats that > adequately deal with his rapping style? The production on the Dr Octagon > album was great, but it seemed of a slightly diffreent mindset than > Keith's rapping, and that's why so many people seemed to like the beats, > but not his raps. I'd love to see him rap over completely freeform > arrangements--lyrical determinism, if you will. > personally i think the ultramags music and keith were an incredible combination...admittedly it was before keith really started to go off on his baboon related ramblings (though i do enjoy them as well)... as for a perfect combination of beats, flow *and* lyrics, jeru/premo the sun rises in the east for me is utter perfection.... each track...damn....im getting excited just thinking about it....shame about the follow up tho... martin