Re: (idm) recent jungle stuff

From Will Samuels
Sent Thu, Mar 4th 1999, 20:50

--Michael Upton <xxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>
> (Irene) wrote:
> 
> | I've got a bit of a problem seeing the words CURRENT in the same 
> | sentence as Jungle & D&B.
> 
> As follows up appear to confirm, the problem
> with "current" and "Jungle"in the same phrase
> crops up if you never liked No U-Turn, and are
> quietly cursing the way Nico, Trace et al turned
> drum'n'bass on its head.
> 
> Some people say "come on, the music hasn't changed
> that much", but I reckon something really has
> changed in the character of at least what gets
> played out. So much is now about a big dirty
> bass-line and one groove. And structurally so much
> of it is so similar - bass and beat with a few
> other sounds, then a breakdown to the bass and
> introduce a new sound, then just back to where you
> were.

Your right that the No U-Turn crew did have a pretty big effect on the
dancefloor. There have been lots of releases that are dark and
menacing in nature and alot of them to have a similar breakdown. But
that does not encompass all of the new drum n bass that is out there.
Certainly styles like "Afro-funk" as some call it, don't really sound
related to No U-Turn/tech step. There is also plenty of the
"intelligent" drum n bass coming out. Not to mention jump up, etc.

I personally give a massive thumbs up to labels like No
U-Turn/Virus/Ram they put great dance music. It stuff that is
aggressive, lots of bass and fun to dance to. There a hell of alot of
energy in a club when you have a good drum n bass dj behind the deck.

I get way more hyper to that stuff than techno and house. Although a
good techno dj is also great. I

Besides what genre of DANCE music isn't "structurally similar" in some
sense. I hear alot more surprises in drum n bass than any other form
of DANCE music. That's what i like about it.

Even alot of IDM is becoming "structurally similar". If they aren't
trying to sound like early Aphex, then they are usually trying to
sound like Autechre. Too many people are trying to sound like Autechre
these days.

> For the record, I find most drill'n'bass or
> whatever a noodly irrelevance, so it's not like
> I'm afraid of a dancefloor... I just much prefer
> something more rolling, with the emphasis on
> breaks and shifts in dynamics.

I use to dig drill n bass, but I have no taste for it anymore. 
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