Re: (idm) An announcement from the BOC website Administrator

From Wenger
Sent Sun, Sep 26th 1999, 23:01

Cool, great, marvellous. They exist. I'm happy, everyone should be happy.
Everyone makes tapes for their friends, some are lucky that its their own
music they can tape. This next bit kind of pisses me off though (but purely
in a jealous "Mad-collector" type way)::

>Once again, BoC are not at all happy of the copies of their music that are
made. >Sometimes it is a fact of life, but they have their own philosophy
and reasons for >being this way. I would issue caution however, to people
who offer money for, or >advertise illegal copies of, their music. They are
NOT into it. And this goes for >their artwork too.

and then up pops the np slot:: boc maxima...(indeed)

why is this last little dig needed? its a bit of a "ner-ner-ner-ner-na"
playground type thing isn't it? I've got it and you haven't...won't
ever...hahaha.
just a bit childish I suppose. If its sooooooo good why can't it get a
release proper?

oh well, there's always my Hi-Scores ep to play (with)......

np: Q-Chastic ltd 7", Legofeet, Cavity Job etc etc....   ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance @ Inaudible <xxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx>
To: <xxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: 26 September 1999 22:28
Subject: (idm) An announcement from the BOC website Administrator


> -------- EHX Boards of Canada web pages announcement ------------
> First of all hello to all and thank you for even taking the trouble
> to check out the BoC website. A lot of work went into it from all of
> us and the very large majority of correspondance concerning it has
> been very favourable.
>
> Please note, I am not lurker of IDM, another subscriber alerted me
> the recent threads. I am writing to perhaps set the record straight,
> but more to attempt to clear myslef of a few unfair accusations.
>
> I did not realise that the issue of the discography would cause such
> a stir! Perhaps it would be more rewarding to me if people in
> enjoyed the other aspects of the site, like the general design, the
> gallery etc, which BoC feel are just as important.
>
> With respect to the pre-Twoism releases in particular, I can confirm
> that I personally have not known about them for long either. The for
> reasons this I can probably explain. Mike and Marcus have been
> making music for a very long time, using a wide range of instruments
> and with a large number of other people over the years. For some
> time now they have had their own self-financed "company" called Music
> 70, which is a collection of like minded close friends, who produce
> all types of art: audio and visual. The large majority of the music,
> film and photography they produce, is part of their life-long love,
> and remains such to this day. Much
> of what they do is copied for each other and their friends, and this
> still happens. It is not for distribution in record stores and I am
> confident that there is a lot more to come. **The entries you see in
> the discography are simply homage to this string of product**. The
> recordings are real. Twoism is real and was self-financed, why cant
> others exist?
>
> BoC's decision never to mention these items before is their own. But
> I will say that there is definitely NO financial gain here, and there
> is no particular timing in the announcement, particularly as "hype"
> for their new album. They ARE
> recording a new album, and I find it a pity that some people view the
> discography as simply a mechanism to artificially pump interest in
> BoC prior to its release, this is NOT the case. We have been talking
> about re-doing the website since the last album came out, so these
> counter-claims are simply rubbish. In fact I find these statements
> insulting and I am quite sure Mike and Marcus would too.
>
> There is no rule about what you should and should not put in your own
> discography. Obviously BoC would have known that these recordings
> would cause interest. Once again: they were not demos. Someone
> rightly stated that BoC have a huge catalog of unreleased recordings.
> Isn't this the case for every other artist? The fact is that none
> of us, not even me, will hear them. I am afraid that even the most
> fanatical BOC listeners will have to live with that!
>
> Now for the main reason for this statement:
> As for my "disclaimer" on the discography page about making copies:
> this is totally out of necessity. I too have a full and busy life,
> and it is totally true that I do not have any time to distribute
> copies of BoC's material. Apart from anything else, I am simply not
> allowed. All of BoC's music is copyright and I honour that
> privelage. It is not that I "do not care". Someone mentioned that I
> sold copies of Twoism a while back, this is completely incorrect. At
> that time, I doubt if 1% of the people on this had even heard of BoC.
> Mike brought round 5 copies of Twoism, which I sent to
> people who emailed me, and who I felt had a strong interest in the
> band. In return I received a few records of other artists, as a
> thank you for my efforts. I have not made ONE PENNY from BoC.
>
> Again, I am insulted at the accusation that I have, or ever will.
> If you understood my original reasons for EHX
> as a whole, which features many other artists apart from BoC, my
> intention was a non-profit organisation which broadcast the music of
> Edinburgh to the world, as I feel it has a lot to offer as a music
> making city, even though most the artists are distinct entities. I
> will continue this as long as I can and in whatever shape or form. I
> do not receive ANY funding from associated labels or artists. The
> most I get is bunch of promos and tapes for which I am very grateful.
>
> Once again, BoC are not at all happy of the
> copies of their music that are made. Sometimes it is a fact of life,
> but they have their own philosophy and reasons for being this way. I
> would issue caution however, to people who offer money for, or
> advertise illegal copies of, their music. They are NOT into it. And
> this goes for their artwork too.
>
> On the subject of recordings, the "sounds" page WILL contain some
> realaudio soon. Again, this was stalled due to a mixture of time and
> resources, and also to generate a little anticipation! It will
> features short clips of music old and new, with perhaps some pleasant
> surprises. Stay tuned!
>
> Finally, feel free to comment on the rest of the site! There is a
> lot more to talk about. I have not read one single posting about
> about their gallery of pictures and photographs, which they are very
> proud of. They are very interested in film and photography as anyone
> who has seen them live will tell you. It is an integral part of
> their show.
>
> I am slightly phased about having to write this message, but I felt I
> had to, and did not feel it was appropriate to publish it on the site
> itself. I hope now that this thread can now end and that other more
> deserving topics can take up your mailbox.
>
> Feel free to contact me directly, and most of all, enjoy the music!
> There is a whole lot more to come from EHX in the near future, watch
> our for superb underground releases from Benbecula, Kasbah, Realtime
> and Kovac.
>
> Peace and love to you all,
> The Cosmic Crofter
>
> EHX - Electronic Audio Artform in The Capital
> xxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxx.xx.xx
> www.ednet.co.uk/~ehx
>
> np. boc maxima
>