From Tristan Sent Wed, Nov 7th 2018, 22:16
From Tristan Sent Wed, Nov 7th 2018, 22:16
What really sets the Xpander/Matrix-12 apart is that you are effectively getting 6/12 mono synths which you can combine together in all sorts of different polyphonic grouping and layers to build complex sounds. It is so much more than what can be be done in a single patch. /Tristan On Thu, Nov 8th, 2018 at 5:16 AM, M V <xx_xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Thanks for posting the Xpansions link. I have seen a few of those tips posted > elsewhere--is there somewhere where one could find all the issues? > > Reading through the programming section, it confirms what I have long > suspected, which is that a lot of the draw of the excessive modulation is for > player/performer tricks. And I see a lot of parallels with how the Moog One > is being presented. That's not to say that the One isn't vastly superior in > terms of modulation speed and routing abilities, but the general "look at > this cool way to fade between two stereo clavinet patches" idea seems to be > the same. > > Reading through the Xpansions patch list reviews sort of follows > that--there's a lot of emphasis on "real" sounds, and little on wild/creative > synthesis. I guess it was the norm of the time (early '90s), but I am always > perplexed by the draw toward "realistic" sounds on what should be synthesis > monsters. The Xpander/M-12 presets have to be some of the worst ever, but I > can't say I've ever come across any patch sets that are vastly superior/more > interesting. > ________________________________ > From: codemechanic <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 7:35 PM > To: Brian Willoughby > Cc: AH send > Subject: Re: [AH] Anyone have Oberheim Matrix-12 ROM files? > > Hi Brian, > > I own an Xpander which I believe has v1.2 Main board ROMs and v1.4 > Voice board ROMs, but unfortunately I can't confirm that as I'm out of > the country at the moment. > > In searching around it seems like there's more information out there > on the Xpander than there is on the Matrix 12. I couldn't track down > Matrix 12 main board ROMs anywhere. The only way I can come close to > confirming the latest revision numbers for the Matrix 12 ROMs was via > a page on sequencer.de: > https://www.sequencer.de/blog/oberheim-xpander-oberheim-matrix-12/2547 > > "Softwareversionen/most recent software version: > Processor: 1.2 (Matrix12: 1.1) > Voice version: 1.4 (Matrix12: 1.6)" > > From the information found there it sounds like the latest revs are > 1.2/1.4 for the Xpander, and 1.1/1.6 for the Matrix 12. Further > information on the Xpander revisions comes via the software update > operational instructions released 4/5/85 > (http://www.synthzone.com/midi/oberheim/obxp/xpandros.zip): > > "If the main processor version reads 1.2, the Xpander already contains > the most recent main processor version. The voice processor version > will be displayed as 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, or 1.4. Again, if the version > displayed is below 1.4, the software should be updated." > > I was also able to find documentation regarding the Midi > specification, software updates etc. for the Xpander that I can send > your way if you're interested. There sure is some interesting > information found in the Xpansions newsletter archives: > http://www.synthzone.com/midi/oberheim/obxp/xpansion.zip > > -Ben > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 4:13 AM Brian Willoughby <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > > > > Here are some more details: > > > > The Matrix-12 Processor Board has five 8KB ROMs > > The Xpander Processor Board has four 8KB ROMs > > Voice Boards have two 8KB ROMs, and appear to be universal for Xpander & > Matrix-12 (not confirmed). > > > > I have an incomplete set of Matrix-12 Processor Board v1.2 ROMs, (0, 1, 4), > and I need the two missing ROMs (2, 3). > > I am still looking for a complete set of M12 PB v1.1 ROMs, but I might just > buy a ROM reader and pull the chips from my Matrix-12. > > > > My Matrix-12 has v1.6 on the Voice Boards. > > > > > > Meanwhile, I recall a resource that listed the latest ROM versions for both > Xpander and Matrix-12, for both Main and Voice firmware. Can anyone point me > to that? I have a friend who is interested in upgrading his Xpander to the > latest, if we can find out what the latest is. I’ll probably update my > Matrix-12, too, since Main PB v1.1 seems to be old. > > > > I have a complete set of Xpander Processor Board v1.2 ROMs > > I have a complete set of Voice Board v1.4 ROMs > > I have a complete set of Voice Board v1.6 ROMs > > > > Brian Willoughby > > > > > > On Nov 4, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Brian Willoughby <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> > wrote: > > > I have several copies of the Xpander ROM files, and at least one of them > is valid. > > > > > > I’m looking for Matrix-12 ROM files. At the very least, I would like the > Processor Board ROM data. It would be nice to have the Voice Board ROM data > as well. > > > > > > I’m working on a patch librarian for macOS, and need the ROM data to scan > for undocumented MIDI System Exclusive details. > > > > Brian Willoughby > > Sound Consulting > > > > > -- > benjamin allen > xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > 415.624.9111 > http://www.codemechanic.com >