Re: (idm) it takes the physical....

From Sebastien Dalphond
Sent Wed, Jul 8th 1998, 17:27

Christopher Fahey wrote:
> 
>     This web site will make you want to throw away half of your
> drum and bass collection instantly. Basically, 99% of jungle is
> formulaic crap and here's how you can make your own track it in a
> half an hour:
> 
> http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket/breaks.html
> 
>     Very informative and probably very bubble-bursting for some.
> About a year ago I was introduced to the Amen break via this list
> and I began to notice that artists I had previously thought to be
> interesting programmers turned out to be lazy samplers. This site
> makes the extent of that very clear. Have fun!

I don't know how to take this; should it be an invitation  to the drum
and bass producers to put their samplers to the test and create
inaudible sound collages, or as an upfront d&b hate disclaimer?  Or
maybe something else that I didn't get?

I mean, I don't want to defend d&b artists, I'm not one of them and I
don't particularily like the way drill'n'bass kind of took over, but
isn't it the exact same thing going on with the basic techno tracks? 
Putting Derrick May, Jeff Mills, Christian Vogel, or even many (I'd
better get ready for flaming here) Chain Reaction/Plug Research artists
at the top for their creativity, while most of their releases are basic
4/4 beat oriented (granted some occasional extra-rhythm excursions) just
seems to break your critic apart...

Don't get me wrong.  I love 4/4 techno, just as much as I love IDM in
general and drum & bass.  But I think that the whole electronica is
based on samples, sequencers, hopefully giving it an organic feel to it
by pitching in *real* instruments, vocals, warmth, rich layers, etc.  At
least, that was the way it was at first.

I don't think that 99% of jungle is formulaic crap.  Or IDM for the same
matter.

Just my op, probably not too well formulated.

Sebastien