Re: (idm) back in my day...

From daniel
Sent Sun, Jun 28th 1998, 19:09

On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, GamePrg. wrote:

> 
> I highly disagree. Warp's AI comps were the shit, are the shit, and will
> remain THEE shit until the end of time. granted warp hasn't had many
> groundbreaking releases lately. Unless you call the weird microphone-hiss
> amplified and distorted which is MC: Pin Skeeling groundbreaking. It may be,
> I don't know. I don't think so though.

I never said warp was a bad label.  What I said is that there are labels
right now who are doing things warp isn't and these labels have releases
that are on par with those great AI comps. But, a lot of people miss these
releases because they aren't on a known label.  You have to look beyond
the known labels.


> 
> >of IDM.  Some of the better releases can be found in genres like
> >industrial and house.  Check out glassgow underground. Sure it is house
> 
> I disagree.. There are some great releases in the house dept.. and some may
> be better, worse who knows.. but I certainly wouldn't generalise that out of
> house vs. IDM house wins.. no way in hell.. but there is house that does
> rock.. The track "sensual enjoyments" on Sven Vath's new album I consider
> damn well brilliant, for example.
> 

I never ever brought up house vs. idm.  What I said was that people tend
to label to much and totally miss out.  When you look at music and say "I
can't listen to that because that beat is unintelligent" you are closing
your mind.  There is bad house and there is bad idm.  But to refuse to
listen to house just because it is house is pretty ignorant.  By the way
you can subsitute any genre <industrial, country, rock etc> for house in
the above statement.


> not true. Quite a lot of Aphex stuff has a house beat.. it may be somewhat
> experimental, but it has a house beat.. SAW85-92 is pure house.. and Boards
> of Canada? a lot of the stuff therre is pure trip-hop.. just because it's
> put out by Skam don't get confused.. and it's wonderful stuff, and is IDM.
> but a lot of it is pure triphop, and I don't see anyone here holding that
> against it.
> 

this is not a house vs. idm thread.  My point is that people close their
mind and make rigid rules of what IDM is.  They then follow those rules
and if the music is outside of those rules they refuse to listen.  These
same people then complain IDM isn't any good now days.  How many people on
here have posted at one time or another that they won't listen to tracks
with vocals?  Think of all the music they have missed out upon because
they won't listen to someone sing.  Or what about those people who post
that they won't listen to music with a guitar in it?  Again they are
missing out.  A closed mind is never a good thing. 



-daniel