Re: [AH] Drumstation vs AiRBase debate continued

From .v
Sent Thu, Feb 11th 1999, 06:39

> The AiRBase was
>designed as a module to sit in a rack somewhere and be controlled as many
of
>us who use MIDI like to do with things.

still a limitation though, sad that they have yet to generate a
decent mix of these two wonderful drum machines (I could live
without the sequencer, but the knobs and polyphany
would be nice)... I guess a pc-1600/626/airbase combo
is what I'm looking for... but that runs a little on the high end of
things...

I keep hearing about this knob
>issue for the AiRBase and it's so sad that I don't even laugh as it's
beyond
>that point.

please ditch the condescension... I'd hate to tear you a new asshole..

Think of it in terms of this:  the AiRBase 99 allows you to
>control over 60 sound changing parameters (for the different instruments
and
>LFOs) via midi control messages (each parameter has its own controller
>number).  What other analog device can do this?

waldorf pulse, for one, and it has knobs (61 parameters
controlled via 6 actual knobs)..

Why implement 60 knobs anyways, you already mentioned it was
(obviously) digitally controlled analogue.. why not utilize 30 knobs
that do double duty, or 10 that do triple duty (I'm generalizing)...

>Forget that's it's even
>analog for a sec.  Does the drumstation have this kind of control

The drumstation could have,  and (by your own omission) could
have been implemented cheaper ... but that isn't what it was designed to
do.. I'm sure, if jomox is a success, other companies will come out with DSP
machines that could do 10x as much for a lesser price and sound good enough
for my money
(Granted, analogue sounds good.. but what other DSP machines loose
slightly in tonal character, they make up for it in about 800 other
areas.. consider all points of the spectrum)..

>Now the reason the knob issue is laughable is
>because imagine implementing over 60 knobs on a module, one for >each
>parameter.

Ok, I apologize for my asshole comment now that I resee your
reasoning.. Look to my waldorf comment for my answer...

tata,

o0o[qiB.]o0o

In the history of analog synth design, has any
>manufacturer ever built an analog synth that was completely controllable
>through midi and had knobs that can do what the XBase knobs do?

yes.. waldorf (doepfer as well, eh?)...

> So for those waiting for the next JoMoX drum
>machine believing that they can somehow magically squeeze nine voices into
>an XBase type machine with 60 knobs for under $1000 are dreaming.

I never put a price tag on it.. all I want is at least 1 knob and
some decent polyphony.. all in the same unit..
is that too much ta ask? If they updated the xbase with the airbase
benefits, I would buy it...  but they have yet ta do this (to my
knowledge)..




Sorry for
>the rant, but it's about time we started being realistic.  I would love a
28
>voice analog synth with hundreds of knobs/midi controllable parameters but
>that day will never come.   :)   Thanks for the lively debate.  That's what
>I love about AH!
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>Brana
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