From Michael Upton Sent Mon, Jan 11th 1999, 00:00
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Philip Sherburne wrote: | To the best of my knowledge, Pole has claimed not to have directly been | influenced by dub, but rather to have picked it up secondhand through | his BC/CR mates.. Given the heavy dub feel of his recent live show, | I'll let you debate that. Interestingly, Richie Hawtin made the same | claim in a recent interview (soon to go up on Urban Sounds)--that he's | never been a dub listener or enthusiast. He laughs that some PR person | wrote in a press release that he'd been influenced by King Tubby, or | someone, who he'd never heard of at the time. Frankly, I doubt it a bit | (given how dubby Consumed/concept are), but if true, it's an interesting | point: it indicates how deeply entrenched dub structures are in | techno... enough so that they've left their "home genre" and migrated to | an entirely new space. Well, it doesn't really surprise me too much. Drenching percussion in echoes, which is often what people are thinking of when they refer to dubbiness, has happened all over the show in electronic music, from Tangerine Dream to, jeez, Human League, or whatever. I think I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to my definition of dub. If it doesn't have reggae influences, but has dub effects I might say as much ("uses dub-style effects")... Having said that, yeah, there are a couple of tracks on 'CD1', including 'Tanzen', that reminds me a lot of dub. Michael ____________________________________________ "Also, he has automatic evasion devices" http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html