Re: (idm) Plaid - "Not For Threes"

From Che
Sent Sun, Nov 1st 1998, 22:05

At 08:20 PM 10/31/98 GMT, Mark Stevens wrote:

>Heh, I seem to remember when it was first released (almost a year
>ago), many people on this list slated it because it <shock!> had a few
>vocal tracks and acoustic instruments in the mix. 

Actually, the main reason I panned it was because it's weak.  Repeated
listenings have only made this painfully clear - it's not getting better w/
age.  I stand by my original evaluation - emotionless techno-by-numbers.  I
regret that I didn't sell my copy before the Nothing version was announced.


>If you're not as short-sighted as those folk, then 'Not For Threes' is
>a gorgeous album. If it accomplishes anything, it proves that Andy and
>Ed were pretty much responsible for 80% of the classic Black Dog style
>and sound. But having said that, don't expect 'Not For Threes' to be a
>follow-up to 'Spanners'. Whilst there are similarities, it's the
>differences that are much more interesting.

If it accomplishes anything, it proves that Warp fucked up bigtime in
dropping Black Dog.  In 5 years, we'll still be talking about "Music For
Adverts", while "Not For Threes" will be an album that you have trouble
giving away.

Someday soon I hope to give a track by track rundown on who did what Black
Dog tracks.  While trying to identify the Live Tape tracks I released I
have a pretty good grip on their individual styles.  I think your 80%
figure is WAY OFF.  Based on a preliminary analysis, I would say somewhere
between 60-70%, which is what you'd expect for 2/3 of a group that doesn't
really collaborate (I'd love to know how true this is - I occasionally
hear elements of both styles, like on Olivine, and wonder if Ed & Ken did
work together, or whether they just influenced each other.  If they didn't
work together at all, it seems a little weird, but based on my own
experiences w/ electronic music collaborations  & "creative types" it
would not surprise me). 


>Having lived with it for about 10 months, it does look a little bit
>average now. 

"A little bit average"???  Try letting go of your emotional attachment to
Ed & Andy and be honest - it's below average, and way below what they're
capable of.


>Worth getting? Definitely. 

...if you buy it used, and it shows up a lot on people's FS/FT lists, so
you won't have to wait long.


>But you may want to track down the
>'Undoneson' EP (Warp),

...if you like paying $10 for 1 track you have & 2 below average tracks you
don't have (note: at least US fans now get these tracks as a bonus on the
Nothing release)

 
> the 'Android' EP (Clear), the Reflections remix
>12-inch (Clear) and the new Kushti LP (Octopus) to hear Plaid at their
>best. It's also worth getting hold of Leila's 'Feeling' EP -- the
>title track has been remixed at Plaid's studio. So much so that that
>it practically *is* Plaid.

Finally, you're starting to sound sensible.  Don't forget the Studio
Pressure remix, the Bjork remixes, and the dozens of other Plaid remixes
that are way better than anything on Not For Threes.


>New Plaid album out on Warp early in the new year.

Let's hope they snap out of it & deliver this time.

Che