From Mark Stevens Sent Mon, Nov 2nd 1998, 22:52
From Mark Stevens Sent Mon, Nov 2nd 1998, 22:52
On Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:20:34 -0600 (CST), you wrote: >> Apparently, some people decided that to include such elements >> was the antithesis of IDM. Personally, I thought they were >> talking out their butt. >your not bitter are you? :) Not at all! I just think it's strange that some people in this list refuse to listen to anything that contains vocals (or a song) or acoustic instruments. For these people, IDM should be nothing but synthesis. Fair enough -- if they prefer that music, good luck to them, but they're only missing out on some great IDM. For example, take Bjork's stuff. 'Post' and 'Homogenic' are great IDM albums, as are the various singles (practically an album's worth of remixes in each case) they spawned. But there are people in this list who won't agree. >I disagree. yes many elements of classic black dog are present. However, >the album sounds very inhuman. Like androids made it. Black dog for me >had awarmth to it. I know what you mean. 'Spanners', in particular, radiates more warmth than most albums of its ilk, but there are plenty of Plaid moments that have that same emotional context. 'Undoneson', 'Kortisin', 'Rakimou' and 'Milh' are on par with anything on 'Spanners'. >To state that they were the responsible ones is short sighted. Why? Most of Black Dog's 'warmest' moments have Ed and Andy stamped all over them. I'm not knocking Ken Downie's work -- 'Music for Adverts' was excellent stuff -- but my favourite Black Dog tracks have always been the ones where Plaid obviously had a bigger share of the production pie. >Ever hear the black dog live tape? Much of the magic of early black dog >is there. So who is responsible? I for one think it was a partnership >and they complimeted each other well. I agree -- I think it's a shame that Black Dog split, because the mixture of Ed & Andy's melodic techno and Ken Downie's ear for rhythm and ethnic sounds complimented each other perfectly. But now they've gone their separate ways, they've been able to hone their respective areas to a fine point, resulting in some fine music outside the Black Dog collective. And I'll never forgive Warp for not releasing Downie's Babylon project! /\/)ark http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/