From Martin Sent Mon, Nov 3rd 1997, 16:04
>>>> >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 08:51:46 -0500 >From: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx (Peter Becker) >Subject: [none] > >BTW: Though I am certainly guilty of contributing to this mess, is IDM now >trapped in a >"lets see how long a post I can write to show off my debate skills" thread? >Again, I'm just as >guilty in this post but, fuck...the amount of subjects that come up that >have been beaten *so hard* >by the same 10-50 people is just tiring. <<<< it would be nice if a few people would open their dictionaries on "O" and look up the word "opinion", decide if it is likely that everyone on the list has the same one, and just shut up when someone disagrees with theirs. the letters IMO, preferably IHMO could do with a bit more use. if you get a post that expresses something you think is unfair, then posting your contrary view is fine for balance or perspective, whatever you want to call it. what we really don't then need is the subsequent "no i'm right because you forgot..." "no i'm right because you didn't understand..." "no i'm right because because i've been listening to this music longer than you/am a musician/my dad said so/have a caustic window record/ad infinitum...." william burroughs had an idea for a virus that killed people when the formulated the thought "i am right". now that would really clean up IDM. >>>> >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:00:49 -0800 >From: xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx >Subject: Re: (idm) speaking of plaid / Spacer V Juryman (review) > >back to the music? even if just as a temporary respite? > >JURYMAN V SPACER >Mail Order Justice >(SSR 185) <<<<< now this was more like it. great review, makes me want to buy the thing straight away. anyone who disagrees and wants to warn me off is welcome to do so privately, off-list so to speak. i've already wasted more bandwith than i can stand. - bit o' music content - still looking for more stuff in the squarepusher, more beat changes per second vein. have invested in but not yet received, alt frequencies 2 (haven't seen #1 anywhere is this a hard to get, worth looking for), and spunk jazz. thought i cought an opinion that avantgardism 2 sucked somewhat, despite/because of all the exlusive tracks? i liked the first one although i wouldn't say it was a mindfuck. animals on wheels 12" got a mention of being too chaotic? i think i might have to try that if i can find it. been listening to the hab lp, but i'm a tad concerned by traces of hippy leanings. i know its had a good showing on the list, one o' the reasons i got it. anyhow i'm also awaiting the "knights who say dot" comp, so i'm still hoping to be convinced. - btw - thought i'd poll some men here at work re: musical tastes, and found no-one interested in idm either with or without vocals. mostly not bothered about music at all, the sorry state of the patriots was of more concern. they're lucky they don't support everton. someone did express a preference for sheryl crow. as a result i'm suggesting all us males leave this list and form sporting mail lists -bub np skampler nl mogwai young team ("got a bit of a fuckin' sketch goin' on here")