RE: [AH] nice article on Ricochet

From Lorne Hammond
Sent Sun, Oct 28th 2018, 00:21

just back from work.  Good point Brian. I'm thinking they had the clock =
issues resolved but changing keys meant doing that smoothly for 3 Moog =
systems, 4 or more vcs3s (good luck there) and what ever tuning they =
were doing on the electronic percussion modules. More like three people =
going into 3 studios to tune 3 setups with a common clock, rather than =
transposing one unit. They probably spent a lot of time just tuning and =
cabling up. But the idea of multiple systems transposing on the beat...  =
Its an overwhelming bunch of gear and I think that scale had never been =
done before?  so the old keep it simple stupid rule was a safety?

Lorne


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Willoughby <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>=20
Sent: October-27-18 4:28 PM
To: alt-mode <xxx@xxx-xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Analog Heaven <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [AH] nice article on Ricochet

Hmm, I suppose that they might have considered it too limited to change =
the base voltage, because that would have kept the intervals set. In =
other words, what variation was available might be too limiting?

My experience is with sequencers like the Pro-One, where the keyboard =
can be used to shift the 40-note sequence during playback. Yes, =
it=E2=80=99s not any more complex than simple key modulation, but =
it=E2=80=99s way better than being stuck with the same key through an =
entire piece. The Pro-One also does not allow easy editing of the =
sequence itself, so the step voltages are fixed during a live =
performance (unless you used DJ cue headphones and had other synths in =
the foreground while working on the next sequence).

I=E2=80=99m still wondering why TD didn=E2=80=99t take advantage of =
changing the base voltage. =E2=80=A6 or are there songs from that era =
where they did employ simple key modulation? The interview would seem to =
indicate that they didn=E2=80=99t.

Brian


On Oct 27, 2018, at 3:06 PM, alt-mode <xxx@xxx-xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I think it was more of a situation that you couldn=E2=80=99t retune =
the sequencers during a performance.  You really needed them set up and =
tuned in advance and, while you could change the base voltage, you =
couldn=E2=80=99t really change the step voltage live.  However, the 960 =
sequencer has some great features for skipping steps and resetting on a =
particular step that can make them a creative performance tool with some =
practice.
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> Moog has always been 1V/oct.
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> I=E2=80=99m amused with the inspiration for the album name.  That was =
the first video game we had at home!
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>         Eric
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> On Oct 27, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Brian Willoughby =
<xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Enjoyed the article. Thanks Lorne and Jason.
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>> I=E2=80=99m curious about the statement from Tangerine Dream that the =
sequences could not be transposed. Were the Moog oscillators of the =
mid-seventies not based on 1 V/octave? If they were 1 V/octave (or =
Buchla 1.2 V/octave), then all it would take is a CV mixer to add (or =
subtract) a constant voltage before feeding the oscillator(s) input.
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>> What am I missing here? (clearly, I have no experience with =
mid-seventies synth modules)
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>> Brian
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>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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>>> posted to Bacefook by Lorne Hammond --
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>>> https://musicaficionado.blog/2017/09/05/ricochet-by-tangerine-dream/
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>>> (i love the inspiration for the album name! nothing like what i =
would have expected)
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