Re: [AH] Minty 808

From skkatter
Sent Fri, Jun 15th 2018, 15:41

The TR808, one of my favourite subjects as it is one of my most
treasured possessions, so treasured that I own two of them.

There's a trimpot inside the 808 labelled TM4 that controls how much
of the noise goes to the snare and clap. Turning this up will make
your snare more snappy, but turning it up too much will make your clap
start to get muddy and lose its snap. I adjusted mine on the TR808 I
use regularly (the one with the midi kit) and you can hear a
difference.

I'll record both of them later on this evening when I'm home so all
you normals and non normals can check them out.

-Stephen

On 15 June 2018 at 16:28, Brian Willoughby <xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Have you compared your 808 to Tom=E2=80=99s after the noise circuit was f=
ixed? I=E2=80=99m thinking it might have been slowly dying before it totall=
y disappeared.
>
> By the way, one of the trim pots inside the 808 controls the amplitude of=
 the noise source. It=E2=80=99s supposed to be dialed in to a specific volt=
age level as shown in the service manual, but who knows how many 808s are a=
ctually calibrated correctly.
>
> On a side note, the 6 cymbal oscillators have 2 tunable ones for the cowb=
ell, with specific target frequencies listed in the service manual. Those c=
ould drift or be totally detuned on purpose.
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Mike Perkowitz <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Agreed with this. I never owned two 808s at once, but I was able to comp=
are mine with Tom's often and his snare was far crackier than mine. I still=
 use samples of his 808 all the time. I don't remember noticing differences=
 among the other sounds really.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Kylee Kennedy <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wr=
ote:
>>> I had two 808s at one point. Snares sounded different on each one. One =
sounded more fizzy while the other had more of a crack. Makes sense because=
 the transistor was chosen for it's noise characteristics and the manufactu=
rer improved it's noise issues over the years. They stopped making 808's be=
cause they couldn't source the noisyest transistors anymore. I remember the=
 serials were far apart. Now my second 808 is a Miami and I still prefer th=
e original 808 snare that cracks...Miami has a longer kick decay that I lov=
e in that box. Having access to toms, congas, maracas and claps all at the =
same time while jamming is a ton of fun.
>>>
>>> Also owned about a half dozen 303s at one point and they all sounded sl=
ightly diferent. Kept my favorite stock 303 and will never sell my Devil Fi=
sh.
>>>
>>> 606s I found mostly sounded the same also the 110s and 202s I own. I'm =
sure if I really started looking at waveforms there will be some slight var=
iations in them all but those aren't noticeable to my ears as easily as the=
 808s.
>>>
>>> Kylee
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 14, 2018, matt holland <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> "each one sounds different thats what makes them great."
>>>>
>>>> Not to hijack the thread but... (sorry tom) I hear this type of thing =
said a lot about different x0x, yet have never heard it with my own ears or=
 had the chance to make this kind of comparison. Does anyone out there that=
 happens to have two (808s, 303s, whatever) of something feel like uploadin=
g a side by side comparison (soundcloud or youtube video) to illustrate the=
 point? or point me to ones that have already been done?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 2:53 AM, Damon Flowers <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.=
com> wrote:
>>>>> my first tr808 i had in 1996 was mint but it didn't sound as good as =
the one i have now. which sat in a music room in a cupboard at a school  fo=
r 25yrs unused. the case might not be mint but it works perfectly
>>>>> and the internals are like new.
>>>>> so just because the case is tidy doesn't mean the internals are good.
>>>>> each one sounds different thats what makes them great.
>>>>> either way still the best drum machine coming up 40yrs strong =F0=9F=
=98=8A
>>>>> From: Peter Forrest <xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 9:42:14 PM
>>>>> Cc: 'Analogue Heaven Heaven'
>>>>> Subject: RE: [AH] Minty 808
>>>>>
>>>>> So it=E2=80=99s OK if the snare, hi-hat, toms, congas, er ... cymbal,=
 maracas, cowbell and claves are completely f*cked?  :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Jason Proctor [mailto:xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx]
>>>>> Sent: 14 June 2018 03:15
>>>>> To: Tom Butcher
>>>>> Cc: Analogue Heaven Heaven
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AH] Minty 808
>>>>>
>>>>> Just for kicks? I see what you did there...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 18:14 Tom Butcher <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>> So, just for kicks, interested in scoping out some mint 808s.  Mine'=
s nice and all, but... well it'd be nice to have a really cherry one.  I kn=
ow it won't be cheap.  Any options out there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Butcher
>>>>>>
>>>>>