From Andrew Horton Sent Tue, Jan 16th 2018, 19:36
From Andrew Horton Sent Tue, Jan 16th 2018, 19:36
I used to have multiple MOTU boxes with multiple ada8000's. Nightmare. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mike Perkowitz <xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > I'm up to two saffire pro 40s, each with an ADA8000 attached. it's kind o= f > nightmarish > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:24 AM, DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote= : >> >> RME Digiface has the ability to connect FOUR Lightpipe devices (4 in and= 4 >> outs). I have a pair of ADA8200=E2=80=99s even though I can only connect= one of them >> to my 828mk2. >> >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:02 PM Boniforti Flavio <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> ... THREE ADA8200s? :-o Where do you connect them? On my 828 I get to a >>> max of TWO of them ;-) >>> F. >>> >>> https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused >>> >>> 2018-01-16 20:01 GMT+01:00 DJ Maytag <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>: >>>> >>>> I have a similar question. I=E2=80=99m looking at an RME Digiface USB,= after >>>> having used a MOTU 828mk2 for a couple years. I=E2=80=99m interested i= n the routing >>>> that Total Mix can do for me when I=E2=80=99m not connecting multiple = ADA8200=E2=80=99s to >>>> the Digiface, versus when I am utilizing 2 or 3 ADA8200=E2=80=99s and = an ES-3mk2 for >>>> modular signals. >>>> >>>> Mitch >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:42 AM Boniforti Flavio >>>> <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jason. >>>>> Now that you are citing RME - would it make sense to migrate away fro= m >>>>> MOTU 828 MK3 to an equivalent RME? The only "pro" I can see now (beca= use of >>>>> lack of information/details, of course) is that on Windows I could la= bel the >>>>> channels in Totalmix (whereas MOTU's CueMix doesn't allow for this, i= t works >>>>> only on Mac OS X). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> F >>>>> >>>>> https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused >>>>> >>>>> 2018-01-16 18:09 GMT+01:00 Jason Proctor <xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>: >>>>>> >>>>>> some interfaces include patchbay functionality, which can be used to >>>>>> emulate the conventional analogue mixer send-return flow. so for exa= mple, >>>>>> with the RME Totalmix system, when you click on an output, the "volu= me" >>>>>> controls on the inputs effectively become "send" levels to that outp= ut, and >>>>>> the "volume" control on the output effectively becomes a master fade= r going >>>>>> to that output. patch that output to the patchbay and on to the FX b= ox, then >>>>>> take the output from the pedal back to an input. (taking care of cou= rse not >>>>>> to route that input back to the "send" output!) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Thomas Krugman >>>>>> <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. If I'm not mistaken and judging from this page the "STANDARD" >>>>>>> setup is half-normalled which is what you have? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.neutrik.com/en/products/audio/patch-panels/1/4-patch-pan= el/nys-spp-l1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The advantage of a mixer is that putting an effect on an AUX allows >>>>>>> you to adjust the SEND level for each instrument you send to that A= UX. >>>>>>> With just an interface and a patchbay you have to be creative in >>>>>>> emulating that. Experiment! The way you work and record will dictat= e how to >>>>>>> wire it all up. Like you said, you're not going to record 24 instru= ments at >>>>>>> once so you have a lot of room to play with how you patch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Boniforti Flavio >>>>>>> <xxxxxxxxx.x@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Thomas... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2018-01-14 20:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Krugman <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx= >: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter that you already have your 24 channels assigned >>>>>>>>> to instruments. When you plug a patch cable to the front bottom r= ow (which >>>>>>>>> is normalled to an interface input) you are breaking that connect= ion between >>>>>>>>> that bottom row and it's corresponding top row (the instrument). = So again, >>>>>>>>> if you patch the output of your pedal to the bottom front row of = an >>>>>>>>> interface input, the instrument on the top row is no longer route= d to that >>>>>>>>> input. Do you know what I mean? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is the "half normalled bottom row" configuration, right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So yes you can do the advanced way easily if you want. Because >>>>>>>>> there's no way you're recording 24 instrument inputs at the same = time (or >>>>>>>>> are you?) so you always have at least several inputs free for eff= ects. >>>>>>>>> That's what's cool about half-normalled. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ah, you answer my above question here :-) >>>>>>>> I know that I won't be recording 24 channels at once, that's for >>>>>>>> sure. I'm simply used to remember how I worked with a physical mix= er, where >>>>>>>> I had all channels labeled with the gear names. I wouldn't connect= to let's >>>>>>>> say "TR-808" channel (if not used) the wet signal of my SH-101 pas= sing >>>>>>>> through the phaser. But I guess, this is simply my mindset, which = would need >>>>>>>> to be adapted. :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand your second question. As for Stereo to >>>>>>>>> Mono you could take just one of the outputs into your MF-104m. Yo= u can >>>>>>>>> create a simple MULT with 4 or 5 jacks connected together and rou= te several >>>>>>>>> synths to it and from there into your effect. What interface do y= ou have? >>>>>>>>> Have you gone over the manual to see if it offers any special int= ernal >>>>>>>>> routing capabilities? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do have a MOTU 828 MK3 Hybrid - there's where I configured the >>>>>>>> different "Mixes" as explained before. Those are like send mixes, = where the >>>>>>>> return (stereo) is being brought back into Mix 1 (Master Mix). Con= fusion is >>>>>>>> arising because both delay and reverb are stereo units and being f= ed with >>>>>>>> stereo signal. I honestly have to admit that I don't know if I can >>>>>>>> output/assign a Mix (let's say Mix 4) to a mono output. That would= solve my >>>>>>>> question, I guess... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And how about doing this in your DAW by assigning hardware >>>>>>>>> instruments to inserts in your software. Have you tried this befo= re? Google >>>>>>>>> "DAW hardware inserts how to". Then you really open up even more = routing >>>>>>>>> possibilities. Your software should be able to compensate for lat= ency. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Logic: >>>>>>>>> https://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html= #chapter=3D10%26section=3D12%26tasks=3Dtrue >>>>>>>>> Abelton: >>>>>>>>> http://blog.dubspot.com/how-to-route-external-hardware-audio-effe= cts/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, I'll read through the above eventually. But I really prefe= r >>>>>>>> to work in hardware and only record to my DAW the "almost final" p= roduct... >>>>>>>> F. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >