Re: (idm) (breakbeat) trainspotters

From cognition
Sent Tue, Sep 14th 1999, 04:00

david: a couple of "doh!"s in my
post, thanks for fixing 'em. i actually
listened to licensed to ill a couple of times
last week and forgot about that, practically
ditto for the apache/amen confusion.
geez, i need to be given a good slap.
thanks. andrew duke :)

David Viens wrote:

> I always liked those history-of-electornic-instruments
> parts of documentarys
> like the PBS aired History Of Rock And Roll
> episode 10 : The Perfect Beat's 808
> or Modulations type 303-909 worshippin..
>
> On The perfect Beat they mentioned
> Public Enemy`s first use of Funky Drummer
> on Fight the Power.
> But they failed to mention NWA`s use of
> Amen on "Straight outa Compton".
>
> Andrew Duke wrote:
> >coldcut's beats and pieces, for example,
> >was the first track to use led zepelin's
> >break from when the levee breaks to
> >show best what i'm talking about here.
>
> actually it was used way before on the Beastie Boys
> Lisence To Ill  on "Robbing and Stealing"
> (Alibaba and the 40 thieves)
>
> Other worthy mentions:
> Bjork`s  Army of Me.
> And Tears for Fears`s "Shout"
> for the snare sound only
> (seems weird but I`m pretty sure of that one)
>
> >much of the early "trip hop" was essentially
> >breaks with some stuff on top, same for
> >some hip hop.
> >much of the early jungle just took the
> >incredible bongo band's break from
> >their track "amen" and looped it,
>
> Actually the "Amen" breakbeat comes from
> "The Winstons" on the B side of "Color me father",
> Whereas the "Apache" break comes from
> the Incredible bongo band`s Apache track
> Both of them were indeed used to death in early jungle.
>
> Now maybe some other break geek can help me on this one:
> What`s the origin of the one used in Panacea`s Lightbringer??
> (dont be confused `cause there are also traces of Amen in there as well)
> That sample was also used on the B side of Plug's "Cut 97" 12"
> I listened to all of the breaks on Audio113 and didnt find
> anything like it..
> It hasnt been used on as many tracks as Amen, but it is equally powerfull.
>
> Cheers!
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