RE: [AH] new tax issues for selling items to the UK

From Peter Forrest
Sent Thu, Mar 7th 2019, 18:41

I don't know!  I suspect it would happen after a more orderly Brexit =
too, but fingers crossed it doesn't.
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Walker [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx]=20
Sent: 07 March 2019 18:34
To: Analogue Heaven Heaven
Subject: Re: [AH] new tax issues for selling items to the UK

Peter,

Part of your quoted text says =E2=80=98in the event of a no deal =
scenario=E2=80=99

Does it only apply in the no deal scenario? Or with any Brexit?

Rob=20


> On 7 Mar 2019, at 17:58, Kenny Balys <xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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> Have a few friends from the continent who made large "panic buys" of
> synths from the UK in the last weeks. The hunting has been good
> apparently.
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> Here in Iceland (not EU) we pay import tax on all used items and this
> extends to the cost of shipping as well. So if I were to buy something
> from the UK at 900 pounds with shipping of 100 pounds, I would then
> owe 25% on 1000.
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> The difference from what is suggested here is that the tax is entirely
> my burden and not that of the seller. I can buy whatever I want, from
> whomever, as long as I can pay the 25% when it gets here.
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> Norway and Suisse are also out of the EU.
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> If Iceland, Norway and Switzerland can all handle collecting VAT on =
small
> packages, I don't see why the Royal Mail could not.
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> This must be a political thing. Fear mongering? Like do I have to go =
for an
> interview with the High Commissioner before I send my friend in =
Blackpool a
> delay pedal??? Should I wear a nice sweater?
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>> On 07.03.19 17:44 , Boniforti Flavio wrote:
>> Hi Peter. That's a potential annoyance, the one you quoted :-( That =
would
>> mean that if I sell you an item which costs 100 GBP, me as a seller =
would
>> need to pay the VAT on top of it?
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>> Also, regarding your *campaign" agains VAT on second-hand items: I =
actually
>> do agree and I feel the same. Why on earth an item, which has been =
bought
>> from a shop 10 years ago (with regular receipt and thus also having =
paid VAT)
>> has to be taxed again and again if it crosses borders as USED item?
>> Presumably there is a financial/economical explanation to this, maybe
>> somebody on AH does have the knowledge to explain it to us?!
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>> F. https://soundcloud.com/bonnyfused
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>> Am Do., 7. M=C3=A4rz 2019 um 18:37 Uhr schrieb Peter Forrest =
<xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx
>> <mailto:xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xx.xx>>:
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>> I got confirmation today from the UK Treasury:  if/when Brexit =
happens anyone
>> selling something valued under 135GBP to the UK will need to pay the =
VAT
>> themselves!____
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>> QUOTE:____
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>> To avoid the need for parcel operators to have to collect small =
amounts of
>> VAT on low value parcels from recipients, we have developed an online =
service
>> to collect VAT direct from sellers outside the UK. The new service =
will
>> ensure that parcels can flow into the UK after we leave the EU in the =
event
>> of a no deal scenario, whilst protecting tax revenue. ____
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>> This is a change from the current rules, so it is important that we =
tell all
>> individuals and businesses potentially affected, as soon as possible.
>> UNQUOTE____
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>> __ __
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>> This is a huge change, and a very damaging one for anyone selling =
something
>> like an effects pedal or a cheap synth to someone in the UK. ____
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>> But underlying it is something that I think we should all be =
campaigning
>> against, worldwide: the idea that second-hand items going from one =
customs
>> bloc to another should be liable to tax and duty.____
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>> Some countries (Australia, USA, for instance?) have reasonable limits =
below
>> which nothing has to be paid.  But many (UK for instance) do not.____
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>> And anyway it seems totally anomalous that tax should be paid again =
and again
>> on a used item after it has been paid once.____
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>> Peter Forrest____
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