From Sham Beam Sent Wed, May 13th 2015, 07:45
From Sham Beam Sent Wed, May 13th 2015, 07:45
Haven't heard any footwork out yet but I'm digging this Chrissy Murderbot Boiler Room Los Angeles DJ Set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qbd79cQWQg On 5/11/2015 8:40 PM, Al Kennedy CMPR wrote: > im not a big fan of footwork at all... (i thought Bangs & Works was > absolutely terrible....) i dont like people RP Boo or Rashad etc etc - > ie mainstream footwork.... i do however like some of the underground > stuff... some House of Black Lanterns tunes, some Moresounds tunes, > Coleco etc etc - but anyway, genrla feeling on it is that it is shit > quality, boomy music that lacks the finesse of our own uptempo genres - > double time, half time southern rap beats in effect > > but... it is awesome live! i dont think you can appreciate it properly > until you have danced to it on a BIG soundsystem//// It all gels and > works live... saw Teklife at a festival (like 11 of em on stage) and it > was MINT.... > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy > to press the same button several times > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:44 PM, kent williams > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > I think that there's a lot of subtlety in Jlins beats and song > structures; but she does like that machine-gun repeat thing. > You can make fun of superficial traits of her music, or meet > her halfway and listen for what's interesting in it. Or not; > plenty of other music for you to listen to. > > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:12 PM Clint Anderson <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some > degree here :) > > just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... > here are some tips for footwork producers: > > 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that > individual hits/notes/etc can actually be at different > volumes from one another > 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, > in fact, you can create what are called 'melodies' > consisting of two or more notes at different frequencies > 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have > been made available, many of which are built into your MPC > -- for fun, trying applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds > in your 'song' -- the results can be fascinating and are > very popular in most every genre. > 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum > sounds into your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has > to use the same hi-hat, snare, and bassdrum, on every single > one of your albums, for your entire career. > 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on > the MPC, using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and > release, to alter your sounds > 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, > it's confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my > understanding is that these buttons can actually be assigned > to different sounds, and over the course of several albums, > you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or even every song > > i realize im not from the same background as people > producing footwork, but i am 100% confident that a manual is > provided for the MPC series > > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > Who are you and where are you from? If you were > African-American and lived in Chicago, you might not > like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd belittle the > entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your > reaction rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like > the people making that music were getting away with > something. > > I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and > know the music scene there fairly well; the one thing I > know is that it's serious, and highly competitive. No > one gets away with making mediocre music; any Footwork > tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu > is not going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it > may not speak to your condition, but to criticize it > that way makes me think you're just hearing it, not > listening to it. > > And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to > it. There's too much music and life's too short to > listen to things you don't enjoy. > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne > <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot > to add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap > instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical culture > based on a very shallow listening experience, and no > understanding of the culture in which it grew up." > > Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the > ignorant line yourself, and sounding like an > academic from the burbs who's just trying to > relate. You don't know me or where I'm from. If > I'm from the same musical culture and the same > socio-economic background as most peeps who make > Footwork, am I still ignorant and shallow? Am I > allowed to have an opinion then? Good, because I > am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to > put "IMO" because I am the one saying it, and it's > obviously my opinion. I much prefer Bluegrass. > > Now, hugs all around! > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, > furthermore demands a different sort of > listening if you're going to understand and > enjoy it. To say "The genre that sounds like > some kid forgot to add a snare to his half-assed > Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a > whole musical culture based on a very shallow > listening experience, and no understanding of > the culture in which it grew up. > > Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of > kids with cracked copies of Fruity Loops; they > work with the tools they have. The motivation > was to make music whose purpose is to accompany > footwork dancing, which is competetive, athletic > and intense. The idea is to have the freshest, > trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty > boomboxes or Frankenstein sound systems.. > Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and > stylized warfare; it sublimates the violence and > frustration of life in "Chiraq." It is > something positive in an environment where > people are confronted daily with unrelenting > negative things. > > There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands > of people making it. Inevitably most of it is > not very good, but like any other genre, when > it's good it's great. > > It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're > not so hot on bluegrass music as well. But like > my grandmother always told me about cream corn, > "it's better to say you don't care for it than > say you hate it." > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan > <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > Kent, > > Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not > like Footwork? It seems like Jared just > thinks this kind of music does not require > much effort or much of it is the same. > > I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & > Works Vol. 1" and have found his sentiment > to be true for most of the tracks on that > release, with some exceptions of course. > > Now Jlin's release here is much more > experimental and fresh sounding than the > long tracks of TV show themes spread out > over lazy beats. > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne > <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> > wrote: > > Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't > help myself, Kent! Honestly, Jlin's > stuff isn't that bad. But for some > reason it all sounds a bit unfinished to > me. But if peeps want to call it > minimal, so be it! > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent > williams <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > Jared, stop being ignorant. > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM > Jared Dunne <xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > Ah yes, Footwork. The genre > that sounds like some kid forgot > to add a snare to his half-assed > Fruity Loops rap instrumental. > Yay world! > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 > AM, David Bohan > <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote: > > I haven't heard of > "Footwork"... is this a new > genre of music or something? > > The tracks you linked to > sound interesting to say the > least. Find it also curious > that Jlin works at a steel > mill in Gary, Indiana... Not > much music prides itself on > coming from Indiana > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at > 11:29 AM, kent williams > <xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx > <mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx>> > wrote: > > I'm surprised > footwork/juke hasn't > been a bigger thing on > the IDM list. This new > record on Planet Mu is > revelatory. > > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 > > > > > > -- > 22tape/jared dunne > listen <http://22tape.com> > > > > > -- > 22tape/jared dunne > listen <http://22tape.com> > > > > > > -- > 22tape/jared dunne > listen <http://22tape.com> > > > > > > > -- > PR man...Music Scribe > > 07972 509 878 > Skype: Al.NCHKennedy -- Sham Beam