Re: (idm) 808WHAT????

From Che
Sent Fri, Apr 23rd 1999, 01:56

At 12:54 PM 4/20/99 -0700, boomboomkid wrote:
>I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,
>anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno
>wierd to me...
>if you have heard it what's it like?
>I think it's called No Buildings or something

Kids today...no sense of history.  Oh well, I suppose you were in diapers
when it came out.

At 05:01 PM 4/20/99 -0400, Greg Clow wrote:

>Newbuild...it's pretty good stuff if you like 808's early work.

"Pretty good"?????  PRETTY GOOD????? Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaahhh!!!!

Here's what Autechre said about it:

>(10) 808 state: flow coma
>"probably the best track in this [top 10] list. shits on everything else, 
>from a great height."

Che

>From the archives, children - this list could use some content, even if
recycled:

From: xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxx-xxxxxxxx.xx (really?)
Subject: (idm) autechres top 10
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:18:50 +0000

>>obligatory idm content: autechre revealed their 10 favourite records in spex
>>this month... i'll put it up on the list if anyone's interested
>>
>Please post it. Thanks!

here goes... a rough translation...

(1) mantronix: listen to the bass of get stupid fresh pt 2
this is the direction in which hiphop should have gone. the most
contradictory elements are brought together in a way which creates a new
organic whole. only rza is still doing comparable stuff, maybe dr. octagon.

(2) kraftwerk: it's more fun to compute
there's nothing to be said about kraftwerk which hasn't already been said
before. but even if we had to do a top ten every month, this track would
always be in it.

(3) glen velez: bodhran
velez only plays percussion on this track. one would probably have to call
it jazz, but actually its also a perfect bit of acid. incredible sounds.
when we first heard this, we were in despair. we couldn't quite do this with
all our instruments, and this guy here only needs a drum. velez plays with
rabih abou-khalil and currently teaches in miami. friends of ours live there
and want to find out whether we can record anything together.

(4) george clinton: atomic dog
more sounds which make machines seem organic. the father of everything.

(5) aphex twin: digeridoo
there was a time when there was only richard. maybe it sounds a little
farfetched, but we are listening to quite a bit of stockhausen at the moment
and there is a link to richards stuff. both have put together this huge
array of machines for their music, have collected incredible resources.even
if stockhausen has probably gone mad, things like 'kontakte' point in the
direction in which electronic music is developing. today one is interested
in the possibilities of the use of composition in electronic music, and one
has to realize that stockhausen has already done it all in a perfect way.
but then he did have incredibly good conditions to work in.

(6) zoviet-france: something this beautiful
it could also have been 'white dusk'. - this is music which achieves a
strange mixture of harmless surface and murky depths. one is not quite sure
which of the two is more important and whether it would be worse if the
music stopped or if it went on forever. other people who manage something
like this are coil and angelo badalamenti.

(7) boards of canada: box maxma
it's a shame we can't pick demos. the best new electronic music is to be
found on demos today. since the interest of the mainstream has shifted to
drum'n'bass things have been getting better again. the kids don't hope to
get signed and do whatever they feel like doing. but this track here isn't
bad either.

(8) stock hausen & walkman: organ transplant
the master thieves. they, too, manage to combine parts in way which seems
totally impossible but feels inevitable at the same time. and they steal
from musicians who stole from other musicians who died in poverty.

(9) just-ice: cold getting dumb
a mantronix production. of course the rap also works as rap, but you've got
to listen to the way he chops the rhythm track to shreds and weaves it
together with the rap. the words become machine.

(10) 808 state: flow coma
probably the best track in this list. shits on everything else, from a great
height.




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smell sweet." - Mao Tse-tung to the Supreme Soviet, 1956