Re: (idm) Re: Tally Ho!

From objet
Sent Mon, Oct 19th 1998, 06:00

About this out-of-tune sample busy-ness:

I've been putting together my first mix cd for the past month or so and
have been spending *ages* pitch-shifting various tracks & various
*sections* of tracks in Sound Forge & on my SP-808 simply so that, in
the final mixdown, everything flows together nicely.  

I've found some interesting things out in the process: take, for
example, a "fucking lush" track like Massive Attack's "Unfinished
Sympathy."  If any track could be expected to be completely in tune to
the naked/casually listening ear, it would be this one -- but upon
trying to mix it with another track in perfectly identical key, strange
things happen -- discordances between the bassline, strings & piano in
the track suddenly become excruciatingly evident.

I've also been mastering & remixing tracks for a friend's band; local
indie guitar-pop. The one track that the band wants to be its single has
been a nightmare for me: during one phase of the song, the vocals are so
out of key that no amount of fiddling in Cubase will help it. As the vox
are on key for the other 2/3 of the song, this vivid difference presents
quite a problem -- especially since vocal retakes are circumstantially
out of the question.

In short: worrying about whether a track or a mix is in tune is
essentially not about being anal-compulsive, but rather about very
practical questions such as: is it mixable? Will people hear this and
feel their stomachs turn?  I'm sure that even the most tone-deaf out
there have had at least one bad experience with, for example, a child's
first performance at a violin recital or simply hearing someone singing
something so out-of-tune that they want to strangle that person.

Have we become so accustomed to the monotone rantings of vocoded vox &
MCs that it's now a matter of total indifference whether music, let
alone vocals (which don't really belong in IDM, at least until Dot
releases their 'Knights Who Sing Dot' comp. -- so, apologies to Teep)
are on key?  There's experimental unintended dissonance and then there's
simple unintended dissonance, read bad musicianship: I think we all know
the difference between these two things.  It's enchanting if Sid
Vicious, Edith Piaf or Richard James sings off-key, but nauseating if
Jose Carreras or Dave Gahan does. It's all about context.

One last question: Is it all relevant to IDM? Well, seeing as how this
'genre' essentially mixes classical and avant-garde motifs together, I
would think that these questions/discussions do have a place here. I get
confused when the purists get rowdy about the list's function.  Is this
list supposed to be dedicated *exclusively* to reviews, notices of
shows, and auction/sale mentions, or is it not also supposed to be used
as a forum for the vast variety of issues relevant to abstract
electronic dance music?   

my 2 pesos

sr
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