Re: (idm) listening to music...

From david turgeon
Sent Mon, Jun 28th 1999, 21:21

>  However, words can easily be interpreted differently by different people.
> The data or "idea" located at that file name "the sound" can be different for
> each person based on their life experiences with said idea. Therefore
> language is a flawed form of communication, since different people can have
> different impressions of words, the very same sentance can have different
> meanings to different people.

... therefore music is a flawed form of communication, since different
people can have different impressions of sounds, the very same
sound-pattern can have different meanings to different people...?

let's take an example within the field of purely instrumental music:
japanese harsh noise.  play an aube track to your grand ma.  then play
it to me.  witness the difference.  now play a squarepusher song circa
"rotted" to me.  then listen to it yourself.  get a pattern there?

> What if that man drowning didn't speak any language known to you? How would
> he commicate to you he needed help? The only way you would know he was in
> distress would be the tone of his voice? Hence inflection/tone of voice can
> be seen to be a higher form of communication than language.. afterall.. if he
> made really distressing sounds.. you'd know he was in some form of trouble,
> no matter what language you were spoke. Same with music,.. music.. sound
> alone.. can say an endless amount more than words ever could. Music is by far
> a more pure form of language than spoken word could ever hope to be. Does
> that mean when you're drowning you should start whistling the Pop Eye the
> Sailor Man? Yes oh intelligent ass-ed one.

my point was simply that to put musical communication as oh so godly &
oh so divine & oh so perfect & in the same breath dismissing
written/spoken word as "flawed" is a bit of a short-circuited thinking. 
one could maintain that music (let's assume that any noise can fit that
category) is basic & word is a sophistication of it, hence being a
"higher" form of communication.  or one could say, as you do, that music
being more universal & requiring less conventions (i.e. rules, grammar)
to be understood makes it the "higher" one.  it's actually such a
trivial issue, we might as well go on with "does god exist?" while we're
at it.

as for my unwarranted sarcastic spiel, well, it was only meant to be
funny (whether it achieved that goal or not is an open question).  if
you felt attacked by it, i'm sorry, as always.  perhaps i should make
all my messages bland & dull, it seems like humour is always detrimental
to someone no matter what you do.  then again, most people seem to take
it well enough -- & perhaps return the humour back rather than flames.

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david turgeon at http://www.notype.com